i just got my nexus one for about 1 week, tried many different roms, kernels, and apps.
it is rooted, with 2.2 rom.
today, when i checked out about my phone, it shows i only have 22.8mb left on my internal phone storage?
i am just wondering is this normal? do i have too many stuff on the phone, and i should move them to the sd card?
thanks
I think it's very normal, me myself have 27MB left internal storage. i have a bunch of apps installed, i think around the 90.
even with the help of app2sd,my internal storage only has 40MB.
folder of data/data takes a lot of space.
Unused storage is wasted storage. Enjoy your phone and stop worrying.
i got a few questions...
1) i have on average 36m of available memory, is this normal? i got task manager app and seem to be at my optimization limit..
2) im on stock 1.5 now, what is the fastest and most efficient firmware out now that reduces the bloat and optimizes the phone, and how do i put it on the phone
3) what else can you do with the usb cable, is there a 3rd party android client for pc or something like that? anything interesting like that
thanks
1) I assume you mean 36 MB of RAM available? Not internal memory? If so, yes that is actually very good, I average less than 25 and tend to stay under 20 MB
2) There are ROMs on the G1 going all the way up to 2.2, I for one have chosen to stick to 1.6 because, I know many people will disagree with me on this, but I simply just believe the G1's hardware wasn't really meant to go anywhere above 1.6. 2.2 and anything above 1.6 in my opinion is a bit too slow and cumbersome for me. I believe you should make the move to 1.6, maybe SuperD which is what I have been using for half a year now. 1.6 more closely integrates the search function and search tools, when you upgrade to 1.6 you will quickly see what I mean by that and it tends to cause a bit of lag and takes a large chunk of memory, though it is more convenient.
3) Well... you can use it for ADB (Android Debug Bridge). You can use it with Android ScreenCast, which is a program that allows you to use your G1 from your computer as long as it is connected to your phone, you can see whats on the screen, click, etc.
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I don't know if you have rooted your phone or not, but you will definitely need to do that first. Find instruction for that, there are only like a couple dozen threads telling how on XDA.
Find your ROM, again I recommend a 1.6 ROM, but feel free to give 2.2 a try and see if you like it. Install it, do be careful and read the instructions very carefully, especially when it comes to flashing a new radio image, you can brick your phone rendering it unusable.
So just look those things up, follow instructions carefully, reread everything in the instructions before doing anything and of course, in the case you do mess up, I can't be held responsible, I just provided you with a start. Best of luck!
there was an update to 1.6 so im on 1.6 now
since the g1 appears to have a limited amount of ram, is apps2sd worth it, say if i get a class 6 sd card of newegg, how difficult is it to install apps to the sd, and what is the performance
will the sd card deteriorate over time and lose performance?
i just want to put together the most efficient longest lasting setup
btw my i was checking my ram i guess through the task manager app, my free internal memory is like 50+mb..i dont see the point of an sd card if its not even being used, so running apps off the sd is what interests me, i dont have much other reasons to root
RAM really doesn't have that much to do with Apps2SD. I believe you should go ahead with the Apps2SD, but it really depends on how many applications you have. If you have anymore than 30 or so applications, you should go with Apps2SD. I for one am not certain about the effects of low internal memory, except that it gives you an alert every once in a while. My phone has "grown up" with Apps2SD from the start, so I don't have much experience on how a phone runs without it. The thing with Apps2SD is that it might be a hair slower than storing in internal memory, but that is a given. I use a Class 4 SD card and it still runs really nicely, a Class 6 SD card should definitely be good.
The lifetime of an SD card is pretty dicey, it really depends. SD cards have a certain amount of read and write cycles they can do before they finally kill over. Using Apps2SD will be a bit more harder on the SD card, especially if you use a Swap partition too. I use both, and my SD card is still working even a year and a half later.
One benefit, though I don't know how much this means to you, more internal storage data gives you more storage for system applications, such as for Contacts, text messages, etc.
A word of warning though, as using these features like Swap and Apps2SD does put more work on the SD card, the chance of error and corruption on the card itself increases a bit too. So far, I have had two instances in the year and a half where my SD card simply just blanked out. The first time around I lost everything that was on it, music, pictures and all my applications and application data and my phone could no longer boot (this was an issue with older ROMs back in the day of Android 1.0 and when everyone though Cupcake was a myth, when running Apps2SD, the phones would need the SD card to boot, it is no longer a problem). Just a suggestion, backup what is on your SD card every once in a while. I don't mean to scare you with that, it is extremely rare for that to happen, I believe I was just unlucky.
With Apps2SD, I actually feel a lot more free on my phone. I can install tons of applications and not have to worry about running out of memory, I have over 100 applications installed, which the internal memory (because of the applications I have) can't even hold.
So to wrap it up, I apologize for the long winded explanations, I say go Apps2SD, it really is worth it. Most of the ROMs today support automatic Apps2SD, whenever you install an application it just automatically goes onto your Ext3 partition. (Yes, you will need to repartition your SD card to have an Ext3 partition as well as a Swap partition if you want, this can be done really easily with Amon's Recovery Image.) In some ROMs, you can just go to the settings/ Spare Parts section and check Apps2SD.
so basically app2sd has only to do with the internal memory...it will not help free the ram even with a swap drive, is this what your saying correct
it will help only with installed applications
Yes that is correct, Apps2SD is designed to keep internal storage memory free and open for other things like text messages, call logs, internet data (cache, cookies, etc) and cache data for other applications like Google Maps and the Android Market.
where are the text messages stored by default, in the internal memory or the sim card, cause my old phone could hold only 25 messages in the sim card, how does this work on here
Messages are stored in internal memory and no where else, they can be moved to the SIM card with other applications, though space is extremely limited there.
hitman3x said:
1) i have on average 36m of available memory, is this normal? i got task manager app and seem to be at my optimization limit..
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This is a linux based system.. "free" memory is pretty much meaningless. Stop worrying about it. Task manager apps are a waste of time and actually cause a lot of problems in android.
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2) im on stock 1.5 now, what is the fastest and most efficient firmware out now that reduces the bloat and optimizes the phone, and how do i put it on the phone
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Why don't you root your phone and find that out for yourself? Everyone has their own favourite build so you won't get many meaningful answers here.
hitman3x said:
3) what else can you do with the usb cable
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Err.. I don't know.. lace your shoes with it? That's an odd question.
hitman3x said:
3) what else can you do with the usb cable, is there a 3rd party android client for pc or something like that? anything interesting like that
thanks
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Well once rooted, with most roms you can tether your pc to your phone for internet access (using the phone as a modem so to speak). useful if you are in dire need of internet access using a pc/laptop with no current available wired connection.
alright i figured most of this out i tried thedudes lite and dwang 1.17.1 build
the only problem i have is any build on donut (1.6) makes my camera not work the camera closes unexpectedly all the time (full wipe)
on cupcake its completely fine
I'm having some trouble lately, maybe the past week? I keep seeing low memory, and I'll go in and delete some apps and it'll go away, and keeps coming back, I've cleared all my caches and such and am still hovering around 15-16MB of memory.. I rooted my phone about a month ago and flashed Fresh 2.4.0 onto it, and have really liked it versus stock! But, this low memory thing has me a little worried.. I've tried searching and haven't found much, anybody have any advice for me?
I've found that after wiping data and reinstalling my apps, I gained about 50 megs. Even with all the same apps and data from titanium restore... Just a lot of trash gets built up over time (it had been months since I had wiped data)
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I'm having some trouble lately, maybe the past week? I keep seeing low memory, and I'll go in and delete some apps and it'll go away, and keeps coming back, I've cleared all my caches and such and am still hovering around 15-16MB of memory.. I rooted my phone about a month ago and flashed Fresh 2.4.0 onto it, and have really liked it versus stock! But, this low memory thing has me a little worried.. I've tried searching and haven't found much, anybody have any advice for me?
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Use firerat's internal partition mod...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754805
It repartitions the internal space. When youre donr you have 2-300 mb of space for apps and cache. Very simple to do
you have a few choices here
1. switch to an odex'd build these have more internal space because of how odexing works
2. modify your partition like PMDColeslaw suggested
3. delete some of the apps your not using, i know on my phone i can name atleast 6 apps i have installed that i use barely at best
Andrew486 said:
I'm having some trouble lately, maybe the past week? I keep seeing low memory, and I'll go in and delete some apps and it'll go away, and keeps coming back, I've cleared all my caches and such and am still hovering around 15-16MB of memory.. I rooted my phone about a month ago and flashed Fresh 2.4.0 onto it, and have really liked it versus stock! But, this low memory thing has me a little worried.. I've tried searching and haven't found much, anybody have any advice for me?
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If you switch to cm, you'll gain about 50 mb of storage immediately
Sent from my hero running froyo... take that Sprint!
You probably came across this question before, and if you have htc one you will probably have the same problem..
I looked into a lot of threads but none found the answer.
When i go to storage, "other" is occupying 7gb of space.. That's pretty insane considering from other threads I saw it's only system or software os space and there is no way to look into it and find out what it is. I have 1 picture below and on the far left it says I have 25gb of storage.. Completely ignores those 7 other go cause I have a 32gb phone.
Some say it may be backup information, stuff you deleted and it stays there so if you need it back you can access it.
Is there any way to fix it? Without whiping everything cause that's proven to only decreases the size a bit. It's only getting bigger, I hope I can get rid of a big part of it so I can have more space. I'm not rooted.
Andromon 01 said:
You probably came across this question before, and if you have htc one you will probably have the same problem..
I looked into a lot of threads but none found the answer.
When i go to storage, "other" is occupying 7gb of space.. That's pretty insane considering from other threads I saw it's only system or software os space and there is no way to look into it and find out what it is. I have 1 picture below and on the far left it says I have 25gb of storage.. Completely ignores those 7 other go cause I have a 32gb phone.
Some say it may be backup information, stuff you deleted and it stays there so if you need it back you can access it.
Is there any way to fix it? Without whiping everything cause that's proven to only decreases the size a bit. It's only getting bigger, I hope I can get rid of a big part of it so I can have more space. I'm not rooted.
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Ok so your phone have a memory chip of 32gb.
Its divided in 37 different partitions.
Partitions 1 to 34 are reserved for the firmware (bootloader, secondary bootloader, recovery, radio, kernel, mfg, misc, drivers and some more).
partition 35 is the system
partition 36 is the cache
partition 37 is your user data partition and is composed of the remained space.
Available user memory is +/- 25gb for everyone.
That's not good.. So there's no way I can make that size smaller?
I'm getting a little confused here, since it looks like I have the same situation as on android 5:
Yesterday I got a "storage full" error on the playstore, and i thought it was some old enemy resurfacing on 6, since I have a 32GB U3 sd card adopted as internal storage.
What happened instead is that the system still makes a distinction between internal memory and external. Every app I installed after the migration to 6.0, if is movable to sd card, it can be moved through the option given in the app menu. Just like on Android 5. Maybe it moves everything and doesn't leave any data on the internal, I don't know that. The problem is that, just like on 5.0, whenever I update an app it goes straight back to internal memory.
So, all in all, this "adoption" thing is really just another name for the same thing. A lot may have been changed under the surface, but basically the user experience is the same.
Having to move 10-20 apps everytime there is some mass-updating it's... quite annoying.
Sorry if this was in some form discussed anywhere else, or even worse, if someone had already come up with a solution.
I have exactly the same issue
Yup. That's what happens. Seems it isn't quite what it seems.
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It's retarded, and poorly implemented. Other than that, it's great.