I have a stock Nexus 6 on t-mobile with a side loaded t-mobile ota and connected to a 2015 Moto 360. However lately it seems like doze isn't working. It shows that my phone isn't awake during the time I'm sleeping, but my battery still drops pretty significantly overnight. When I wake up it shows that android OS is at the top of the list and I don't remember it ever being at the top of the list before, it used to be just Cell standby and screen.
Anyone have this issue or know if there is a fix?
I have some pictures of my stats when I woke up.
Edit: Just added some current GSam stats as well. It shows google app as the top using app. I wonder if that could be going rouge?
i wouldnt really say that doze isnt working, id guess that you have an app that is keeping the cpu busy all the time, instead of going to sleep
what app or how would I check for that on stock? I have looked myself, but I haven't added any new apps since the original update and it also doesn't show any apps in the battery stats that are keeping it awake. I also find it weird that the battery stats don't even show my device as "awake" even when it is draining battery.
Nocturnal86 said:
what app or how would I check for that on stock? I have looked myself, but I haven't added any new apps since the original update and it also doesn't show any apps in the battery stats that are keeping it awake. I also find it weird that the battery stats don't even show my device as "awake" even when it is draining battery.
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will you take a screenshot of your battery stats main page, with all the apps and their battery use then post it?
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nevermind, i missed it in your first post. your android os is kinda high, but your device was sleeping.
simms22 said:
will you take a screenshot of your battery stats main page, with all the apps and their battery use then post it?
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nevermind, i missed it in your first post. your android os is kinda high, but your device was sleeping.
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Yeah that's what I was talking about. No apps show up on my battery stats page as using excessive battery life or keeping the device awake overnight, but I still have drain... I don't understand why or what it could be. It's been happening the last few days or more I believe and wasn't happening before.
Nocturnal86 said:
Yeah that's what I was talking about. No apps show up on my battery stats page as using excessive battery life or keeping the device awake overnight, but I still have drain... I don't understand why or what it could be. It's been happening the last few days or more I believe and wasn't happening before.
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can be just google updating something on your phone. if so, just give a a day or two. if it is a stuck process, a reboot usually would fix that. i cant really think what else would cause that
simms22 said:
can be just google updating something on your phone. if so, just give a a day or two. if it is a stuck process, a reboot usually would fix that. i cant really think what else would cause that
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It sucks I've rebooted it a few times and even before going to sleep last night after charging and still nothing... I included some Gsam stats in my original post. It seems google app shows highest in app usage but idk if it could be the culprit for some reason? I recently turned off voice detection yesterday because I thought that might be it, but idk..
I would recommend trying to uninstall/disconnect Android Wear app and the Moto 360 for 24 hours and see if you notice a difference. Whenever I had my Moto 360 connected, the battery life with my phone was never as good. Not sure if this is do-able for you at all, but something maybe worth trying to see what happens.
RMarkwald said:
I would recommend trying to uninstall/disconnect Android Wear app and the Moto 360 for 24 hours and see if you notice a difference. Whenever I had my Moto 360 connected, the battery life with my phone was never as good. Not sure if this is do-able for you at all, but something maybe worth trying to see what happens.
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I would but they don't even ding the radar of battery life or keeping my phone awake and having them installed was never was a problem before.
I know they will hit my battery life a little bit and always has, but this overnight drain was never a problem after first side-loading the OTA, it just came up recently. Also I've used android wear and had a moto 360 connected to my phone since gen 1 came out without an excessive drain issue.
Nocturnal86 said:
I would but they don't even ding the radar of battery life or keeping my phone awake and having them installed was never was a problem before.
I know they will hit my battery life a little bit and always has, but this overnight drain was never a problem after first side-loading the OTA, it just came up recently. Also I've used android wear and had a moto 360 connected to my phone since gen 1 came out without an excessive drain issue.
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@Nocturnal86 some news about the mysterious battery drain? i'm in a similar situation, would appreciate information about how did you solve the problem, if you did
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When I got the phone my battery was pretty phenomenal (comparatively speaking). But it seems since I took the update that Sprint pushed out a few weeks ago, the battery can't make it more than a few hours with light/moderate use. Its really horrid to be honest. Hoping the eventual 4.2.2 OTA will fix this. But in the meantime I wanted to know if anyone else was having this issue and possibly help identify the source of the problem. (By the way I am not rooted)
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When I got the phone my battery was pretty phenomenal (comparatively speaking). But it seems since I took the update that Sprint pushed out a few weeks ago, the battery can't make it more than a few hours with light/moderate use. Its really horrid to be honest. Hoping the eventual 4.2.2 OTA will fix this. But in the meantime I wanted to know if anyone else was having this issue and possibly help identify the source of the problem. (By the way I am not rooted)
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Have you checked the version of your Google Play Services APK? It can cause a particularly nasty bug on HTC devices.
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Have you checked the version of your Google Play Services APK? It can cause a particularly nasty bug on HTC devices.
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Play Services is v 3.1.36 but the actual Play Store is v 4.1.10 which is said to "fix battery drain issue." Still seems to be draining pretty rapidly. Any fix you know of?
Can we see your usage stats?
daltonroland said:
Play Services is v 3.1.36 but the actual Play Store is v 4.1.10 which is said to "fix battery drain issue." Still seems to be draining pretty rapidly. Any fix you know of?
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The Play Store update should have also pushed Play Services, so yeah. Could we see your usage and also your app list/sync settings?
I'm in the same boat, even after the Google Play Store fix.
Seriously, we need usage stats.
Sorry, been working in home WiFi.
Hardly been using the phone since I still have my old Evo LTE and the battery is better on that.
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Wifi used up 43% of 60% of your battery? That's like a quarter of your battery gone! Am I the only one who thinks that's weird? Can we see the graph and awake time etc? (Sorry for the trouble, but it's the only way we can tell)
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Sorry, been working in home WiFi.
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Just wanted to ask, what does that mean? (Not trying to be negative in any way)
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Wifi used up 43% of 60% of your battery? That's like a quarter of your battery gone! Am I the only one who thinks that's weird? Can we see the graph and awake time etc? (Sorry for the trouble, but it's the only way we can tell)
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Just wanted to ask, what does that mean? (Not trying to be negative in any way)
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Well, in fairness for the last week or so I've been charging the phone and leaving it in my room. The screenshot was after like a day and a half in which a hardly used it and had WiFi on.
By working on home WiFi I meant talking to ISP and bumping up speeds, for the second time in a week.
I'll post the graph when I get home from work or early tomorrow as the phone has been unplugged for about 20 minutes.
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It won't hurt if you actually use it. Watching vids/playing games prevents blown up stats like that.
EDIT: Please, also include stats like screen time, awake time, cell reception, Wifi etc.
This was at work. I hardly use my phone at work fyi.
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Dropped 25 ish percent in 6 hours? What seems to be the problem?
With your usage, that would give you a day. I'm happy with 11 hours.
But with no internet connection and hardly any use. It concerns me because usually it would drop 5 maybe 10%. It was great on sleep.
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OK, now that I think about it, you're right. I remember getting more than 2 days on standby with absolutely no use (on wifi).
A day with that kind of usage is really not that good. It's weird because your stats don't show anything odd. I'd like to see some moderate to heavy usage stats though. The kind you say gives you 5 hours. That would help more.
Here you go. About 50% gone in about an hour of use (on WiFi) mostly on YouTube/Twitter or music with regular use of ATK.
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I'm having a serious battery drain issue with my Sprint One also, though I don't remember exactly when it started - it might very well have been that OTA update.
My battery drains when the phone is asleep. The phone will be dead in just over 24 hours from 100%, with less than one hour of screen usage. The integrated "usage" monitor shows that WiFi consumes this power , whether or not WiFi is in use. I have a paid task manager app that can track stats over time, and according to it, the processor appears to be running at ~15% constantly when the screen is off. I've tried disabling WiFi and having the phone sleep on just the cell network, to no avail. I first thought that perhaps the poor service at my house was causing it. However, I watched the battery drain at exactly the same rate when in an area with perfect coverage.
Here's the weird part - I tried airplane mode'ing my phone. Airplane mode doesn't seem to stop it. In fact, airplane mode seemed to accelerate the drain! I find it simply unacceptable that my phone will die like this with almost no usage.
I feel that the problem is not a rogue third-party app I have installed. I've used the "disable" option on Facebook, Twitter, and I've removed several other suspected apps. It makes no difference. I even suspected my task manager app; I tried removing it and looking at the integrated one, and there was no difference.
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I'm having a serious battery drain issue with my Sprint One also, though I don't remember exactly when it started - it might very well have been that OTA update.
My battery drains when the phone is asleep. The phone will be dead in just over 24 hours from 100%, with less than one hour of screen usage. The integrated "usage" monitor shows that WiFi consumes this power , whether or not WiFi is in use. I have a paid task manager app that can track stats over time, and according to it, the processor appears to be running at ~15% constantly when the screen is off. I've tried disabling WiFi and having the phone sleep on just the cell network, to no avail. I first thought that perhaps the poor service at my house was causing it. However, I watched the battery drain at exactly the same rate when in an area with perfect coverage.
Here's the weird part - I tried airplane mode'ing my phone. Airplane mode doesn't seem to stop it. In fact, airplane mode seemed to accelerate the drain! I find it simply unacceptable that my phone will die like this with almost no usage.
I feel that the problem is not a rogue third-party app I have installed. I've used the "disable" option on Facebook, Twitter, and I've removed several other suspected apps. It makes no difference. I even suspected my task manager app; I tried removing it and looking at the integrated one, and there was no difference.
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Check to make sure never auto turn on Wi-Fi is checked in Wi-Fi advanced settings. I was going to suggest poor reception since that kills my battery, but you mentioned trying airplane mode.
With screen off and nothing running, it's not surprising that Wi-Fi is the main battery drain. But it is too fast in my opinion too.
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Is high performance Wi-Fi disabled?
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To start off, I used to get pretty good battery life on this phone. I usually averaged somewhere around 3 to 4 hours of screen on time while still ending the day with over 20% left. This is from usage such as using the GPS for between 30 to 60 min, browsing reddit, watching youtube, and other stuff like that. I have slowly noticed that I have been getting worse and worse times until I finally decided to log them. I'm hoping that with the information I collected, you guys may be able to give me an idea of why my battery life sucks and what I can do about it. If it turns out my battery life is actually fine and I'm crazy, tell me that too haha. The link to the album with all of the screen shots is here: http://imgur.com/a/j7f3o
The first few images are of the battery logging app GSam Battery Monitor. Ignore the average screen on at the bottom of the first image because it's way too high as seen in the later images. The screenshots from the Android Battery Monitor are towards the end.
Quick Look
Screen On Time: 2h 43m
WiFi Always On
Bluetooth Always On (Pebble Watch)
No Active GPS Usage during Monitoring
Top 5 Consumers According to Android Battery Monitor:
Google Play Services (15%)
Screen (13%)
Google App (11%)
Android OS (11%)
Cell Standby (9%)
From GSAM
Discharge While Screen On/Off: 47%/50%
97% Battery Used on 15h 3m
35% of Battery Used by Screen
39% of Battery Used by Apps
Top 5 Apps by Consumption:
Android System (10.69%)
Reddit News (6.8%)
Kernal (Android OS) (6.1%)
Google App (2.6%)
Chrome (2.0%)
I really appreciate your helps and am hoping there is something I can do to help fix this while maintaining all of the functionality I enjoy with this phone. I've seen plenty of people on this forum getting amazing battery life and usage times and would love to join their ranks! Let me know if I can get you any other information and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
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To start off, I used to get pretty good battery life on this phone. I usually averaged somewhere around 3 to 4 hours of screen on time while still ending the day with over 20% left. This is from usage such as using the GPS for between 30 to 60 min, browsing reddit, watching youtube, and other stuff like that. I have slowly noticed that I have been getting worse and worse times until I finally decided to log them. I'm hoping that with the information I collected, you guys may be able to give me an idea of why my battery life sucks and what I can do about it. If it turns out my battery life is actually fine and I'm crazy, tell me that too haha. The link to the album with all of the screen shots is here: http://imgur.com/a/j7f3o
The first few images are of the battery logging app GSam Battery Monitor. Ignore the average screen on at the bottom of the first image because it's way too high as seen in the later images. The screenshots from the Android Battery Monitor are towards the end.
Quick Look
Screen On Time: 2h 43m
WiFi Always On
Bluetooth Always On (Pebble Watch)
No Active GPS Usage during Monitoring
Top 5 Consumers According to Android Battery Monitor:
Google Play Services (15%)
Screen (13%)
Google App (11%)
Android OS (11%)
Cell Standby (9%)
From GSAM
Discharge While Screen On/Off: 47%/50%
97% Battery Used on 15h 3m
35% of Battery Used by Screen
39% of Battery Used by Apps
Top 5 Apps by Consumption:
Android System (10.69%)
Reddit News (6.8%)
Kernal (Android OS) (6.1%)
Google App (2.6%)
Chrome (2.0%)
I really appreciate your helps and am hoping there is something I can do to help fix this while maintaining all of the functionality I enjoy with this phone. I've seen plenty of people on this forum getting amazing battery life and usage times and would love to join their ranks! Let me know if I can get you any other information and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
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You should post that in the battery life OP. I'm sure someone there could help you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2946742
mine lasts half a day too
I'm getting horrible battery life with ANY custom ROM I use, I might just go back to stock .
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I'm getting horrible battery life with ANY custom ROM I use, I might just go back to stock .
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Generally, you should allow one to two days for everything to settle. Are you doing that?
[i know this is the Nexus 6 forum, but somebody else suggested i post here as you all seem to discuss battery life issues more than other phone forums]
Moto X 2014 running pre-rooted 5.0 with tether enabled, flashed with MOFO
i have wifi, bluetooth, as well as location services OFF
in the past 2 or 3 days my battery life has gone to crap. someone suggested there was a GPS update that is causing problems, but can't find any other info
the biggest drain seems to be Google Play Services, with >40% of the power usage.
1) anyone else experiencing this? if so, is there a solution or fix?
2) can Google Play Services be uninstalled/disabled (or frozen using Titanium Backup) safely
[email protected] said:
[i know this is the Nexus 6 forum, but somebody else suggested i post here as you all seem to discuss battery life issues more than other phone forums]
Moto X 2014 running pre-rooted 5.0 with tether enabled, flashed with MOFO
i have wifi, bluetooth, as well as location services OFF
in the past 2 or 3 days my battery life has gone to crap. someone suggested there was a GPS update that is causing problems, but can't find any other info
the biggest drain seems to be Google Play Services, with >40% of the power usage.
1) anyone else experiencing this? if so, is there a solution or fix?
2) can Google Play Services be uninstalled/disabled (or frozen using Titanium Backup) safely
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first off, you can try updating the google play services. use google and search google play services apk latest.
simms22 said:
first off, you can try updating the google play services. use google and search google play services apk latest.
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shouldn't this be updating through the play store?
i am not an experienced dev or anything... MOFO was about as much as i felt comfortable doing unless there are detailed step by step instructions somewhere.
[email protected] said:
shouldn't this be updating through the play store?
i am not an experienced dev or anything... MOFO was about as much as i felt comfortable doing unless there are detailed step by step instructions somewhere.
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play store, not usually. its usually gets updated by google through tour data connection, in the background. or, you can download the apk itself and install it(that how i get it updated sometimes).
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[email protected] said:
shouldn't this be updating through the play store?
i am not an experienced dev or anything... MOFO was about as much as i felt comfortable doing unless there are detailed step by step instructions somewhere.
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here is the latest. check what version you have installed, if its not this recent, install the latest. if it is the same, we will look in a different direction http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-5-71-1955121-438-android-apk-download/
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play store, not usually. its usually gets updated by google through tour data connection, in the background. or, you can download the apk itself and install it(that how i get it updated sometimes).
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here is the latest. check what version you have installed, if its not this recent, install the latest. if it is the same, we will look in a different direction http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-5-71-1955121-438-android-apk-download/
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my phone has the version you linked to 7-5-71-1955121-438
searching "google play services apk latest" brings up what appear to be later versions...
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/
...or are these for other phones?
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my phone has the version you linked to 7-5-71-1955121-438
searching "google play services apk latest" brings up what appear to be later versions...
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/
...or are these for other phones?
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same one but different version, for a different device. there are many different versions, the one i linked is right. but you have it already, so forget that plan. your battery still doing the same?
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same one but different version, for a different device. there are many different versions, the one i linked is right. but you have it already, so forget that plan. your battery still doing the same?
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i am at 75% now. if i am down to below 10 by tomorrow morning, with phone just sitting next to my bed in the dark, not being used at all, then the problem is still happening. i'll report back... thanks.
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same one but different version, for a different device. there are many different versions, the one i linked is right. but you have it already, so forget that plan. your battery still doing the same?
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very wierd. battery life seems to be back to normal now. not sure what, if anything, changed.
thanks,
So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
Jessestr said:
So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
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the 5.1, then the 5.1.1 updates fix MANY issues, add features, and it changes the way the cpu works, for the better..
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the 5.1, then the 5.1.1 updates fix MANY issues, add features, and it changes the way the cpu works, for the better..
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Any tips to prevent it from bricking again? It's a brand new phone in a brand new package... Don't want to go to the shop again tomorrow saying it's broken again. And I could fix it by adb & fastboot stuff but I don't want to void my warranty yet.
the battery drain is mostly related to how you personally use the phone, how you set it up, what apps you install and use, and your phone/data signal quality. keep your phones brightness down for better battery.
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Jessestr said:
Any tips to prevent it from bricking again? It's a brand new phone in a brand new package... Don't want to go to the shop again tomorrow saying it's broken again. And I could fix it by adb & fastboot stuff but I don't want to void my warranty yet.
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well, it wasnt "bricked", you just didnt know how to fix it. but no, thetes nothing you can do from that randomly happening again. but it was a random event, as the far majority of nexus 6 updated ota fine.
Jessestr said:
So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
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Regarding battery life, Facebook app is a huge battery killer. I suggest using the mobile site. Battery life is dependent on many things, including signal quality, apps installed, location settings, screen brightness, etc. I regularly see 5-6 hours of SOT. I keep location set to battery saving. Ambient display is turned off, because I use a custom ROM that enables the LED notification by default. My brightness is kept between 30-35% with adaptive brightness enabled. Also, I'm either on WiFi or a strong LTE signal.
Regarding your misfortune with the OTA soft brick, it is not uncommon but I doubt it will occur again on your new device. If it should, return it again. It is of no fault of yours. You should always update, as important security and system features are updated.
Evolution_Tech said:
Regarding battery life, Facebook app is a huge battery killer. I suggest using the mobile site. Battery life is dependent on many things, including signal quality, apps installed, location settings, screen brightness, etc. I regularly see 5-6 hours of SOT. I keep location set to battery saving. Ambient display is turned off, because I use a custom ROM that enables the LED notification by default. My brightness is kept between 30-35% with adaptive brightness enabled. Also, I'm either on WiFi or a strong LTE signal.
Regarding your misfortune with the OTA soft brick, it is not uncommon but I doubt it will occur again on your new device. If it should, return it again. It is of no fault of yours. You should always update, as important security and system features are updated.
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Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
Jessestr said:
Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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I'm in the "extreme" category as far as usage goes. So, my 5-6 hours of Screen On Time translates to about 15-18 hours of use/standby. For less frequent use, you should easily see 1-1.5 days on a charge, if not more.
Yes, update. There's nothing you can do to prevent it from happening. Well, maybe not nothing...
You could unlock your bootloader, and never worry about updates again.
Jessestr said:
Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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a little story about facebook.. the last time i had facebook on any of my devices was in 2011. i had it on bith my nexus phones and tablet at the time. as far as i could remember, it always drained my battery. i had it on my nexus 7 for 2 months. one day i noticed it drained 25%. the funny thing was that i never ever logged into my account on the tablet, ever. i started niticing that it drained anywhere from 8-30% battery, without me ever using. after a week or so of this, i uninstalled the facebook app from all of my devices, and have been using the site since. btw, facebook is one of the top 5 apps that will drain your battery, even if you dont ever use.
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Jessestr said:
Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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my phone uses about 5.5-6.5 hours sot. for me, thats about a day, but im a very heavy user. we all use our phones differently, so 5h sot will mean different things to different people.
simms22 said:
a little story about facebook.. the last time i had facebook on any of my devices was in 2011. i had it on bith my nexus phones and tablet at the time. as far as i could remember, it always drained my battery. i had it on my nexus 7 for 2 months. one day i noticed it drained 25%. the funny thing was that i never ever logged into my account on the tablet, ever. i started niticing that it drained anywhere from 8-30% battery, without me ever using. after a week or so of this, i uninstalled the facebook app from all of my devices, and have been using the site since. btw, facebook is one of the top 5 apps that will drain your battery, even if you dont ever use.
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my phone uses about 5.5-6.5 hours sot. for me, thats about a day, but im a very heavy user. we all use our phones differently, so 5h sot will mean different things to different people.
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Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
Jessestr said:
Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
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android wear, i have no idea, sorry. but 5.1.1 is better
Jessestr said:
Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
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No battery drain issues here.
All updates installed. Battery life got good, also fixed my moto 360 install. Both devices can stay on for much longer! Feels good !
I searched and haven't found any battery life thread quite like the problem I am having.
I got my Nexus 6 new last September and until recently the battery has always lasted all day for me. I never looked at battery stats or tried to optimize because I never needed to. About a week ago, the battery started running out by 3PM every day. And the phone is always warm to the touch.
The only thing I can think of that changed was I noticed that my Google Contacts were not syncing properly and so I tried a bunch of stuff to get them syncing properly. I went through a checklist of stuff like wiping the contact apps data, deleting the google account and recreating, etc. I might have deleted and then installed the contact app, I'm not sure. I just tried a bunch of stuff until the contacts were syncing correctly. I don't think that is the cause - I mention it because it is the only change I can think of around the time the battery life degraded. I don't allow the play store to auto update apps, so other than something related to google contacts, there were no app version changes. I didn't change anything about how I use the phone.
I am running the ROM from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-5-1lightromstock-lmy47e-03-19-2015-t3059493
which is, I believe, very close to stock. Since the May security patch level came out shortly after I started having battery life problems, I did a clean install of that version. I wiped system, cache, dalvik and data in TWRP before installing the new version. I've run that for a few days now and my battery life is still terrible and the phone is always warm.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing the problem or how I can diagnose the problem? I've looked at the battery stats, but because I've never looked at them before, I have no idea what they are supposed to look like. The top item in the list is always "Android System" at 18 - 30% of the battery use.
is google play services eating a lot of the battery?
Or did you tried betterbatterystats? Or smth like that? So you can track in detail.
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is google play services eating a lot of the battery?
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I haven't looked for it before. I don't see "google play services" in the list right now. The is "Google Services" and that has used 5% today.
Get screenshot of both graphs in settings.
1 - settings/battery
2- Tap on the battery graph from (1) to show another graph that has several horizontal bars below it.
2a -may give clues about weak phone signal, excess gps etc
2b - See if there are long periods when screen is off but device is awake...
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Get screenshot of both graphs in settings.
1 - settings/battery
2- Tap on the battery graph from (1) to show another graph that has several horizontal bars below it.
2a -may give clues about weak phone signal, excess gps etc
2b - See if there are long periods when screen is off but device is awake...
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Yes it looks like it is awake most of the time. I've attached a screenshot.
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Yes it looks like it is awake most of the time. I've attached a screenshot.
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your phone is constantly awake, not sleeping. AND you have both Bluetooth and WiFi turned on. you'll get terrible battery. one way to rectify it, kinda, is to turn your screen brightness down a lot. since your phone is constantly awake, that means your CPU is working doing something, is it by your choice?
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your phone is constantly awake, not sleeping. AND you have both Bluetooth and WiFi turned on. you'll get terrible battery. one way to rectify it, kinda, is to turn your screen brightness down a lot. since your phone is constantly awake, that means your CPU is working doing something, is it by your choice?
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I want bluetooth and wifi always on and I have never had to turn them off to conserve battery before.
It sounds like the problem is the phone is awake all the time. Now how do I find out why?
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I want bluetooth and wifi always on and I have never had to turn them off to conserve battery before.
It sounds like the problem is the phone is awake all the time. Now how do I find out why?
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you can use something like wakelock detector(app) to find if you have any unusual wakelocks.
I agree, it is abnormal for the phone to be awake the whole time from 9am-2pm including long periods when screen was off. The at 2pm (slgithly after you started charging), those wakelocks stopped and remained stopped even after you want back off the charger. It might be a clue... any idea what might have changed just after 2pm (some program that you stopped or killed or setting that you changed)? At any rate I agree something like better battery stats is a valuable tool to help narrow down the cause of wakelocks although it's not always easy.
Another thing I notice is that your phone signal is very weak... red orange and yellow. (mine is mostly green with a little yellow). They put that on the battery screen because it certainly can affect battery life as you phone has to work harder just to find/keep its signal. Weak signal might possibly be related to the wakelocks although I'm not sure. Most likely phone signal is something you can't control or wouldn't change, unless you were in a different location or unless (longshot) it is related to your radio. You might try flashing stock radio if you have a different radio.
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you can use something like wakelock detector(app) to find if you have any unusual wakelocks.
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I agree, it is abnormal for the phone to be awake the whole time from 9am-2pm including long periods when screen was off. The at 2pm (slgithly after you started charging), those wakelocks stopped and remained stopped even after you want back off the charger. It might be a clue... any idea what might have changed just after 2pm (some program that you stopped or killed or setting that you changed)? At any rate I agree something like better battery stats is a valuable tool to help narrow down the cause of wakelocks although it's not always easy.
Another thing I notice is that your phone signal is very weak... red orange and yellow. (mine is mostly green with a little yellow). They put that on the battery screen because it certainly can affect battery life as you phone has to work harder just to find/keep its signal. Might possibly be related to the wakelocks although I'm not sure. Most likely phone signal is something you can't control or wouldn't change, unless you were in a different location or unless (longshot) it is related to your radio. You might try flashing stock radio if you have a different radio.
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Thanks for your help. I can't remember if I did anything that could have changed the behavior around 2PM, but now that I know, I can keep an eye out for any similar change.
I have never looked at the battery stats before, so I don't know if that cell signal is how it has always been or something that has changed recently. I suspect it has always been like that because I usually see 0 or 1 bars on the status bar icon when I am at home. I have not changed radios, but I may try that after figuring out this problem.
It looks like I need to look at wavelocks to try to see what is keeping the phone awake. I'll investigate and report back with results and or further questions.
Just remembering you said it started after the May security patch.
I'm assuming you flashed it rather than OTA'd it.
Here is the recent history of factory images for Nexus 6
FEB: MMB29Q
MAR: MMB29V
APR: MMB29X, MOB30D
MAY: MMB30G, MOB30I
The MOB series introduced a new radio (the same new radio in MOB30D and MOB30I). I heard that the reason there are two imagesw in April and May is that not all carriers have tested/approved the new radio yet (those carriers - whoever they are - delivered OTA's to MMB29X and to MMB20G). I haven't heard any reports of problems from the new radio and I know it works fine for me on AT&T. Maybe if you came from something other than MOB30D before, and just changed to MOB30I in May, then it might be worth trying the radio from MMB30G instead (there shouldn't be any problem mixing/matching radios.. radio is independent of the rest of the image).
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I just read you didn't change radio and you've always had a low signal. So, disregard my post above.
another thing - a standard troubleshooting suggestion (not related to anything in your post), try wiping cache in recovery.
Settings -> Google -> Security -> Turn off everything
What ROM are you currently running? Or kernel?
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Just remembering you said it started after the May security patch.
I'm assuming you flashed it rather than OTA'd it.
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It didn't start after the May security patch. It started a bit before and it started out of the blue. I did a clean install of the updated ROM with the may security patch. I was thinking the clean install of the ROM would fix it, but there was no change. One thing I didn't mention is that after installing the ROM, I restored system data and user apps and data with Titanium backup.
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What ROM are you currently running? Or kernel?
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I am running the ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-5-1lightromstock-lmy47e-03-19-2015-t3059493
I haven't done anything to change the kernel - does the kernel come with the ROM?
I have installed Wavelock detector free and poked around with it. I've attached a screenshot. It looks like the problem is in something labeled *backup* in the android system. Now that I have this info I am off to google android backup wakelock and see if I can find out more.
The problem went away for a while again and I can't think of anything I did other than install the wavelock detector app. Then the problem returned again.
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I am running the ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-5-1lightromstock-lmy47e-03-19-2015-t3059493
I haven't done anything to change the kernel - does the kernel come with the ROM?
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No idea what ROM it is cause it says that it has been deleted by the administrator
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I have installed Wavelock detector free and poked around with it. I've attached a screenshot. It looks like the problem is in something labeled *backup* in the android system.
The problem went away for a while again and I can't think of anything I did other than install the wavelock detector app. Then the problem returned again.
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Try this if it helps
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Thank you all for your help. I looked at the google backup settings and I had backup turned on, but there was no backup account set. I put in my google account as the backup account. So far the problem is gone. That doesn't prove the missing account was the cause, so if the problem comes back, I think that disabling backup entirely should "fix" it.
Hey folks,
I have keeping an eye on my battery and I noticed that my note 8 doesn't go into deep sleep?
Anyone else?
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Hey folks,
I have keeping an eye on my battery and I noticed that my note 8 doesn't go into deep sleep?
Anyone else?
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I installed the app and noticed that mine goes into deep sleep state as soon as the screen turns off. I'm thinking you have a rogue app causing wake locks. Try a wake lock app to. See what it could be. BTW, I'm running in mid powersave mode, not high performance.
Cool app. I'm glad that I found this thread.
I get 94% screen off time in deep sleep. I don't have many apps installed on my phone. I keep my phone lean and try not to gunk it up with apps that misbehave. I just installed Samsung Pay yesterday and noticed that it is eating a bit more standby battery. This is the only reason that I really liked root. It was very easy to find and kill whatever wakelock was keeping my phone from sleeping. Without root, it's much more difficult. It's usually a process of uninstalling apps and seeing how battery life is affected.
I hate wakelocks.
Do you have any good suggestions for an app to track my wake locks? I'm not rooted.
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Do you have any good suggestions for an app to track my wake locks? I'm not rooted.
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Theoretically, Better Battery Stats can be set up to track wakelocks on unrooted phones by using a few ADB commands. I haven't tried. it. There was an article on the front page of XDA about a month and a half ago on how to set it up.
BBS was my goto app for rooted phones. There's also an app named Wakelock Detector, but I don't think there's any way to fool that into helping you out.
I'd absolutely love to hear about an easier way to do this, if there is one.
Bbs seems to be working for me. Using the adb method
Here's the link to the XDA article on using BBS without root:
https://www.xda-developers.com/stop-wakelocks-android-without-root/
I like GSAM as well. I wonder if this method can be used with it.
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And one thing that I don't understand is why Android makes this information so difficult to get, without root. I mean what is the harm of making this information readily available? Wakelocks are the one thing that I absolutely hate about Android. I've been fighting them since my first Android phone and apparently that fight continues today, with this version. In standby, I'm losing around 1% per hour and I have almost nothing installed on the phone. Before I installed anything, I charged up the phone, took it off the charger, and left it overnight and I lost two percent battery in 8 hours. Last night's test, I lost seven percent in seven hours.
I wish I could be one of those people who just used the phone and plugged it in and never realized any of these things. My wife's like that. She has a ton of apps installed on her phone and gets almost no deep sleep time. She doesn't even notice it and doesn't care. She uses the phone and pops it on the charger when needed. Sometimes she complains about battery life, but doesn't care enough to look into what's causing it (hint, it's probably Facebook).