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Would you buy a htc 510 again?

I am trying to decide if I want to get in on the last week for Cricket with the htc 510 for free after rebate.
Reading up on this phone it looks like you do have root but the 64bit cpu is causing a hinderance with getting things like TWRP recovery and cyanogenmod.
It also doesn't appear to have little quality build things like gorilla glass.
Since the phone really isn't free, you have to pay for service for a month or two, I am wondering if anyone would hesitate to sink money into it again.
I don't see the benefit of 64bit on a phone and being the first means it also will be last to get software extras.

no, due to its complicated steps of hacking
- unlock bootloader (relock, and re-unlock (not available yet?)),
- TWRP recovery not assessable after relock bootloader (fastboot oem lock)
- cricket online would show device as "non-cricket device" and your phone's bootloader would say "TAMPERED" -> reduced resale value
- scarce ROM options compared to MOTO G
- ROM/radio/kernel options are mixed up for Sprint/Boost/Virgin/Cricket and no one knows for sure which works on which...
- digitizer seems not register touches properly. you need to touch lower part of what you wanted to touch (button, softkey) to get the phone respond
- digitizer seems sometimes less responsive to touches while other times too sensitive to a little moistures (like sweat from hands)
- its charging port on the right bottom side make it inconvenient to get docked in the phone holder in my car and be charged in the same time. (The stopper is usually on both sides of the phone, leaving the middle part open (where most phones having their charging ports))
i have mine in light use since 12/26 and i regretted my decision, I used MOTO G before but I dislike its round and curve back case and I wanted to experience stock Sense UI. So I took the chance experiencing it... but...
if you have a MOTO G in mint condition from cricket (LTE-support), I'd consider a trade with the extra $25 LOL
good luck

DX///M said:
i have mine in light use since 12/26 and i regretted my decision, I used MOTO G before but I dislike its round and curve back case and I wanted to experience stock Sense UI. So I took the chance experiencing it...
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Well at the risk of turning this into a not-allowed phone vs phone thread, I'll just point out that while the quality of the Moto G is undeniable and worth the $25 extra, the problem is the model Cricket uses for their Moto G is locked down hard with no available bootloader unlock and no root, so forget roms.
Only reason why I was considering the HTC 510
I also just learned the USA version of the 510 is the 32bit cpu model so that improves things as TWRP is available for that one (I think?) but the camera is not auto-focus and no flash.
If it was truly free-after-rebate I'd still get the 510 but since you have to pay at least two months of service it is really a $70+tax phone and I'm not paying that for no flash and no auto-focus.

I managed to get 2 of them free by upgrading from CDMA to their gsm network I gave them two ****ty blackberrys from like 1998 lol

_ck_ said:
the problem is the model Cricket uses for their Moto G is locked down hard with no available bootloader unlock and no root, so forget roms.
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Thanks for that comment, ck. I was gonna do some research on cricket moto g, but still finishing up with 510 for now.

I jumped on the cricket deal on black Friday and gave my son the phone for Xmas. It was his favorite gift by far. I couldn't use this as a daily driver but it is definitely worth two months of cricket. Cricket service has good coverage with 4g and late but I can't get speeds of more than 8 or 9. The phone is basically free and can handle any games apps I've thrown at it. Display could be better but no other complaints.
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This phone sucks if you've ever used a high quality phone like any of the galaxy series, note series, HTC one, nexus, I'm saving for another quality phone. No memory here, camera is horrible. Phone lags, yes the digitizer is horrible. And, I love music and with headphones it sounds terrible to use, I just don't see myself ever going this route again.
And I'm rooted running custom ROMs which is improvement, but I don't see any ROM fixing the negative about this phone, just improving crap
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When my CDMA Cricket-flashed Galaxy S2 finally died, I replaced it with the Cricket 510 and must admit I'm a little disappointed, although I wasn't expecting a world-class device at that price. Battery life and performance are better than I expected, but the grainy flashless camera, low storage space, and somewhat finicky digitizer leave much to be desired.
This is also my first experience with Sense and I'm not liking it too much, but there are replacement apps (launcher, messaging, keyboard, gallery, etc... ) that get the job done better. But as soon as the camera is fixed in cm11, I'm flashing it.
Would I buy another one? Probably not... I think I'd rather spend more for a better device. But if you're low on cash and need something quick and decent, this isn't a bad way to go at all.

Definitely not for the reasons already stated by everyone else. It is too much of a pain.

Unlike everyone else, I'd buy this phone again in a heartbeat. I got it for next to nothing and it works completely fine. Out of the box the lack of space on the internal storage is a little unnerving but it does have an external micro slot and now that it's rooted deleting the mass of bloatware installed by HTC gives up tons of space. I've flashed CM on mine now and it's even better and works beautifully especially considering it's a no-contract pay-to-go phone.
It amazes me that people want this phone to hit the ground running but NO PHONE DOES THAT save maybe the OnePlus One and the Yureka. We have a limited pool of devs on this phone and they have their own jobs outside of this forum and other phones that they work on. Stop being so self entitled and if you don't like the lack of development on the phone do something about it. The current devs we have already have a device tree up, ported the CM MSM8974 kernel, and a vendor repo (or you can use ./extract-files.sh and pull your own). It really doesn't take that much to get to learning on how to build CM and although deving is a little more, if you don't like it learn it. The phones not been out that long people, like less than five months.
For all it's worth, the phone works perfectly and has better specs than most of the other pay-to-go phones. Like I said, storage out of the box is lacking but there are given alternatives and if you don't like them then root the phone and remove the mass of bloatware. The touchscreen works fine for me 95% of the time. There are some times where the touchscreen gets a little crazy but it's once in a blue moon. The only real downside is the speakers and one of the devs here in the forums found a mod and if I remember correctly ported it to the 510 to work better. Yeah the camera issue on the current CM build is a little annoying but that part comes with flashing ROMs especially ROMs that aren't supported by CM themselves.
The device worked perfectly for me out of the box and the device continues to work like a beast for me with the current CM build from @rbheromax, @kalisto2002, and @shinru2004.
Like I said, I'd buy the phone again if I needed to because it was next to nothing.
That's my two cents.

I got mine free and regret every penny I didn't spend on something with more internal storage.
Thing is that is my only gripe with the phone, the lack of internal storage space. SD card can't help you if you can't even use the device because it's out of memory.
I've moved almost every app I have to SD card, still no use, and I only have a handful installed whereas on any other device I had about 5 times as many apps.
Would it really have killed them to put 8GB in this thing?
So, no I wouldn't choose this device again.

NEVER!
Nope. NEVER AGAIN!! A smartphone with no storage = basically a flip phone with a color screen. Waste of my money and time and the BIGGEST rip off ever!

Pinalp84 said:
Nope. NEVER AGAIN!! A smartphone with no storage = basically a flip phone with a color screen. Waste of my money and time and the BIGGEST rip off ever!
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I agree, unfortunately im stuck with it. It was my one shot at a phone and it looked awesome though I do work with tech a lot I do not mess with phones at all. So I got this and am currently desperate for a rom that can trim up this memory the on board storage gives you about 300MB after fresh install and updates. This is useless even with 30gb flash card. I have managed to unlock and root it just fine but mine is HTC 510 boost so not I am hoping they make a rom for this that works on my phone until then I am removing as much as I can but these apps do not do much to free up space. if anyone has any info I could use some As I said phones are not my thing.

I agree with dipspit.
Initially I was dismayed over the lack of space on this phone, however I purchased it at a good price and it was a definite upgrade (spec wise) compared to my old device. In all honesty even without the support this device has received from a few members here I still would purchase this again.
It's just an added benefit to have some wonderful members here who are doing all they can to make this phone awesome.

I was considering to buy this phone to my wife instead of her Desire HD. And the best thing about it was a 4G in it, but after reading all your posts I think I will go find something else. One more thing was stopping me from really buying it - 1G of RAM. I don't think it's really enough this days.

The 1GB ram is not a problem. I've since switched to a Moto G 2nd Gen. and with 1GB ram it runs smooth. I love the new Moto G and it's quite affordable, I recommend it.
The storage is the main issue on the Desire 510.

Never!
Its very sh!t phone,slow,very sh!t screen,etc...
My Xperia SP with 2 cores much better and faster

Just bought it as a temp phone till I figure out what phone to get. Besides the crappy screen and camera. It's fairly smooth for a midgrade phone.

Hmm...well I did get this phone for free. Although it does perform much better than my old phone the HTC One SV, the camera isn't as good as the SV (which I really miss). I'm used to phones not having very much development. My first smartphone was a Samsung Admire, then an LG Optimus C. Then the SV and now this. They didn't have much developing, but it was never disappointing. If I could get this phone for free I would. But if I had a chance to buy another phone and had the money, I definitely would. This gave me a taste of Sense 6 and the performance of HTC phones. I've never had it lag while casually using it. Although I do get some crashes, but that's what I get for messing with some of the system's files in order to perform much better.
Overall it's a good phone for performance and gave me a taste of Sense 6. The space isn't much of an issue for me. I've never ran out of memory space.
I love HTC phones and I would get it again if it was free again, but if I had money I would buy the M8 instead (or the upcoming M9)

If anyone was concerned about space, all they would have to do is buy a memory card.
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What to buy after Note r

So.. in february i sold my iPhone 5s and was confused what to go for.. So I picked N4 Exynos as i wanted a good performance etc. Unfortunatelt, I am bit disappointed. I got a screen burn, the phone isn't butter-smooth and battery life is terrible. Still, we have not any AOSP/CM so.. no way surviving. I am thinking on what to replace my note with..i am looking at G4 and M9, Z3+ when it eventually goes available in my country... what do you guys think?

Okay as i dont have my own m9, g4 i can't say how they will behave in long term use.
But I have played with the both phones for some times,and I feel that m9 has much better performance, the camera is too good,and most importantly it is a phone with everything packed in a decent size of 5 inch.
If you prefer bigger(5.5 inch) and better screen the g4 is a better option..and I felt that the g4 battery gives you more time with screen on,though it has a better resolution.
And with the Sony,I personally hate Sony..:banghead:
My z3 became a paperweight as its faulty battery burnt the motherboard,and I couldn't claim warranty because of unlocking the bootloader!

Herny123 said:
Okay as i dont have my own m9, g4 i can't say how they will behave in long term use.
But I have played with the both phones for some times,and I feel that m9 has much better performance, the camera is too good,and most importantly it is a phone with everything packed in a decent size of 5 inch.
If you prefer bigger(5.5 inch) and better screen the g4 is a better option..and I felt that the g4 battery gives you more time with screen on,though it has a better resolution.
And with the Sony,I personally hate Sony..:banghead:
My z3 became a paperweight as its faulty battery burnt the motherboard,and I couldn't claim warranty because of unlocking the bootloader!
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The problem is, I didn't have any HTC in the past, and - as I read forums - I can't understand the procedures to mod it. S-OFF's, CIDs, the hell is that I have had Xperia neo V back in the times, it was branded phone but somehow it had unlocked bootloader with testpoint method, so I was really lucky . Samsung is the easiest phone to mod, I am pretty scared of HTC level of difficultness in terms of modificating. Another thing is Snapdragon 810 which heats up as I heard. The positive is that I hope developers can get most out of it so there will be many custom roms etc

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The problem is, I didn't have any HTC in the past, and - as I read forums - I can't understand the procedures to mod it. S-OFF's, CIDs, the hell is that I have had Xperia neo V back in the times, it was branded phone but somehow it had unlocked bootloader with testpoint method, so I was really lucky . Samsung is the easiest phone to mod, I am pretty scared of HTC level of difficultness in terms of modificating. Another thing is Snapdragon 810 which heats up as I heard. The positive is that I hope developers can get most out of it so there will be many custom roms etc
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If you want to root, install ROMs etc. then a Nexus 6 would be your best option, and it has great specs

Monnq said:
The problem is, I didn't have any HTC in the past, and - as I read forums - I can't understand the procedures to mod it. S-OFF's, CIDs, the hell is that I have had Xperia neo V back in the times, it was branded phone but somehow it had unlocked bootloader with testpoint method, so I was really lucky . Samsung is the easiest phone to mod, I am pretty scared of HTC level of difficultness in terms of modificating. Another thing is Snapdragon 810 which heats up as I heard. The positive is that I hope developers can get most out of it so there will be many custom roms etc
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Yes I also heard that snapdragon 810 heats up fast..but I think this doesn't effect much on the device,like almost all the phones of Sony z series have overheating issues,but when I talked and discussed about it on the Sony mobile forum,they said that all phone CPU's got something inside to control heating issues,so nothing much to worry..
I had a HTC one before z3,the S-OFF,S-ON was a little bit confusing then,because I was at very early stage of phone modding...if you have used and modified phones deeply before,you can easily learn them ..they are not that much hard from unlocking bootloader or flashing ROMs in a Samsung device!
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Tom540 said:
If you want to root, install ROMs etc. then a Nexus 6 would be your best option, and it has great specs
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+1 ...nexus devices are the easiest to mod and the purest Google/Android devices there are. I still have an original nexus 7 running like a champ (aside from the screen being cracked thanks to one of my kids stepping on it lol) but software-wise you can't kill that thing!

Monnq said:
So.. in february i sold my iPhone 5s and was confused what to go for.. So I picked N4 Exynos as i wanted a good performance etc. Unfortunatelt, I am bit disappointed. I got a screen burn, the phone isn't butter-smooth and battery life is terrible. Still, we have not any AOSP/CM so.. no way surviving. I am thinking on what to replace my note with..i am looking at G4 and M9, Z3+ when it eventually goes available in my country... what do you guys think?
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Hmm have you tried installing a custom rom + kernel (+ init.d tweaks)? Mine is perfectly smooth now, with some slight stutters here and there when loading a bunch of apps. There are a lot of performance enhancements to be found here that your could try before switching. Personally I'm using Wanam's BOC5 rom with googy_anas's kernel, with the L Speed 2.2 tweaks (removed the VM and RAM tweaks) + fpsunlocker (but instead of setting it to -60 I have set it to -1). The s6 browser is also a lot smoother than the one that comes preinstalled on the Note 4 so do install that as well (found here). I would also recommend turning off location history and uninstalling chrome as chrome tends to use a lot more battery than the stock browser (also try uninstalling facebook + messenger and use the web-apps instead).

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Hmm have you tried installing a custom rom + kernel (+ init.d tweaks)? Mine is perfectly smooth now, with some slight stutters here and there when loading a bunch of apps. There are a lot of performance enhancements to be found here that your could try before switching. Personally I'm using Wanam's BOC5 rom with googy_anas's kernel, with the L Speed 2.2 tweaks (removed the VM and RAM tweaks) + fpsunlocker (but instead of setting it to -60 I have set it to -1). The s6 browser is also a lot smoother than the one that comes preinstalled on the Note 4 so do install that as well (found here). I would also recommend turning off location history and uninstalling chrome as chrome tends to use a lot more battery than the stock browser (also try uninstalling facebook + messenger and use the web-apps instead).
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I can live without smoothness, the thing that hurts me is the battery definetely

Monnq said:
I can live without smoothness, the thing that hurts me is the battery definetely
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Really don't get it as I normally achieve around 7h of screen on time (using the minimum automatic brightness setting). Of course if I use my Gear VR I won't come anywhere close to that. Have you thought about getting an external charger + extra battery? Really convenient as you never need to charge your phone, and switching batteries only takes about 10 seconds. Samsung External Charger

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Really don't get it as I normally achieve around 7h of screen on time (using the minimum automatic brightness setting). Of course if I use my Gear VR I won't come anywhere close to that. Have you thought about getting an external charger + extra battery? Really convenient as you never need to charge your phone, and switching batteries only takes about 10 seconds. Samsung External Charger
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You can achieve around 7h and when I go to school I can hardly achieve these 4h. The pauses are like 10 min, I usually use LTE, browse internet, read something. Screen is usually set to 50% brightness. The drain is really high. My phone can eat 10% per these 10 minutes.

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You can achieve around 7h and when I go to school I can hardly achieve these 4h. The pauses are like 10 min, I usually use LTE, browse internet, read something. Screen is usually set to 50% brightness. The drain is really high. My phone can eat 10% per these 10 minutes.
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Have you tried resetting the phone? You've most likely got an app that is not playing ball and using a lot of juice. Try resetting your phone, and using it without any extra apps and see if that helps, and then start installing them one by one.

I'm sadisfied with my Note4. But if samsung drop microsd og swapable battery, Ill go for nexus 6.

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Have you tried resetting the phone? You've most likely got an app that is not playing ball and using a lot of juice. Try resetting your phone, and using it without any extra apps and see if that helps, and then start installing them one by one.
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I have maximally tweaked my phone now. Installed SweetROM, applied L-Speed init.d modifications, installed googymax kernel. Maybe it's a bit better, can't really tell. One thing that annoys me, whenever I connect to WiFi/LTE, FB Messenger says "Waiting for network". I have to go into settings>force close and re-run to fix this. Any ideas?
ATM i'm considering Nexus 6/LG G4, or wait for Xperia z3+

Buying a G4? Yes or NO?

​First off, yes, I know both are old phones, and probably not the best choice for 2017/2018 use, but I like them anyways, don't judge.
Right now, I have an LG G2(from 2013), I would like to replace it with a G4. I have heard about rampant bootloops from the G4 via Reddit, and to some extent, this forum.
Reddit will have you believe that all G4's will eventually bootloop, no people should ever buy them, they are terrible, get a V20, things like that. Is it true or is the issue just blown out of proportion?
So basically, is it safe to buy a G4?

It's a decent phone but you can do better nowadays. It's my daily phone and it bootlooped and was replaced by LG a year ago.

betatest3 said:
​First off, yes, I know both are old phones, and probably not the best choice for 2017/2018 use, but I like them anyways, don't judge.
Right now, I have an LG G2(from 2013), I would like to replace it with a G4. I have heard about rampant bootloops from the G4 via Reddit, and to some extent, this forum.
Reddit will have you believe that all G4's will eventually bootloop, no people should ever buy them, they are terrible, get a V20, things like that. Is it true or is the issue just blown out of proportion?
So basically, is it safe to buy a G4?
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its unknown if it will bootloop or not.. seems that after 510 batches are better and chances are very very low. last phone i heard it bootlooped was a 603 but like 2-3 reports unlike the old one.. i myself have a 601 wich i flash weekly or every 3-4 days.
so id say if you get a 601 or onwards go ahead. nice camera we have nougat . its night and day difference then MM.

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It's a decent phone but you can do better nowadays. It's my daily phone and it bootlooped and was replaced by LG a year ago.
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Well, I know I can do better nowadays, it is just that I am not a fan of the changes that have been done to modern phones.
Like the LG UX from G5 onwards, the volume/power buttons placement, 18:9 aspect ratio, headphone jacks being removed, etc...
Thats why I have kept my G2 for so long, but it is starting to overheat, battery is craptastic, and it is in general not able to handle modern functions like WiFi calling, VoLTE, LTE Band 12, Qi charge, among others.
If LG had kept the same button layout, kept the removable battery from the G4(I know G2 doesn't have it, but I expect any upgrade to have it), kept LG UX 4.0(maybe it could use some fixes and refinement, but it is better than the crap they have now), and kept the standard 16:9 screen ratio, I would be perfectly happy to use a V30 or a G6.

Ok, seeing as the bootloop issue is not as bad as it seems from Reddit, I have decided, I will probably get a V10.
Thanks everyone!

betatest3 said:
Ok, seeing as the bootloop issue is not as bad as it seems from Reddit, I have decided, I will probably get a V10.
Thanks everyone!
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No problem
Get 6 series g4
v10 bootloops as well

anyone still here? the note 4 continues to impress me....

Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!

Why, of course, the battery is sealed now. Otherwise not much reason to upgrade year on year anymore. Phones are not leaps and bounds better from a few years ago. Only add gimmicks like in screen finger reader. Older flagship speed is enough if you don't play games. This world is sad.
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Long may it last!

I haven't found an equivalent replacement yet. Sadly, iR control in restaurant/bar TVs seems to be declining...

I have the SM-N910C and I live in Brazil.
I bought it new in 2016 and until today never gave problem. The battery is still great. I almost bought Note 8 or 9 recently, as I needed more internal memory, but solved the problem by going back to Android 5.1.1 (WanamLite, which I've used once for a long time).
I was almost 9 Gb free. Now you will be much longer with me. The device is fantastic.

N910F is still my daily driver! I have modded the cr*p out of it, feels so good, fast, smooth. Hope to be able to use it for 4 to 5 more years.
Bought a LG V20 for my girlfriend, 130 euro. Might also be an option for me, in case my Note 4 breaks down.

BACK BUTTON TO KILL app (only works once)
I fully agree with you aboyut Note4. I bought my wife one and she wanted a 10. I told her I could make the guts do the same thing (plus I can't see spending arms and legs for the most rapidly depreciating item). I've got 128 memory card, one of those massive multiple day batteries, round magnet charger mini USB that jumps on (no plugging), happy as a clam!
Does anyone on earth know of an apk that won't turn off after 1 use back button to kill app? That's my favorite function and I can't stand not being able to close them as I finish except those I return to. I have the apk but I have to keep going into settings, turning it back on for a one time use. Ive searched programming apps but there's none on earth I see that will do the job, and my OS doesn't allow it (I'm still trying to get a custom ROM but having no luck, bricked my other phone yesterday (I think bad CPU sector somewhere based on symptoms).

Hello, I'm currently on a OnePlus 5 but think that it's really overrated coming from my mod friendly S5 mini. I plan on maybe going back to an older phone, because I don't really need performance for anything except Dolphin and Citra Emulator (the MMJ variants of course) but I'd be willing to sacrifice it, since I've seen myself using it only rarely anyway, but I'm a little concerned about 1. The community, since it's an old phone, even though it's a really loved phone. 2. The stylus - does it work on custom ROMs? 3. The battery - I'd definitely buy a 3rd party battery, since the originals will have lost a LOT of capacity, but going from a 10nm SoC (SD 835) to a 20nm one (Exynos 5433) is a little concerning. (4. The kernel and modding sector - Are there good kernels from honest people, not guys like franciscofranco, and mods?) I'd really appreciate answers, maybe I could be helpful because I'm still very young but pretty experienced with modding, development and that stuff, even though I don't even own an x86 desktop and don't even speak english as a native language.

The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..

GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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My depend on what version N4 you have?
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GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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It may depend on what version of the Note 4 you have or if you know how to port roms. For instance, i have a n910p and locked to the fused5,binary4 aboot preventing downgreading the bootloader. So stuck on 6.0 MM, so thrat sucks but the n910f is very similar in compatibility so that opens up other options. Theres also a GRX touchwiz home mod V8 that is pretty cool.
Im running a combination of Dtux Rom with an N7 custum kernel by freeza r61 and GRX V8 along with. alll sorts of ports from different develops. Thats just part of what I have done with the old N4.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...are-customizations-mods-roms-kernels-t3960353

Still Have My Note 4 & Note 7
The Note 4 with Android 6 still serves very nicely as a work phone. At the office, it does everything I need very well. The Note 4 is a better phone than my mom's Galaxy J7 from 2018. But for fun and photography, my Note 7 rocks. Those two Note models remain my favorite. I gave my Note 8 to my wife.

kolembo said:
Yeah.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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Could you expand on the camera cover statement please Kolembo ... how, from where ?
Agree wholeheartedly ... The Note 4 still rocks,
Cheers .... Alan.

Note 4 was best choice am happy with my note 4
Now am using s10 plus & note 4 ♡

Note 4 is still my favorite of all phones I have had.

I am considering the Xiaomi Mi 9 lite.
It has quite a lot of features of the Note 4: iR port, SD card, oled, earphone plug.
No removable battery, no pen, no barometer. Oh, and doesn't cover so many bands. B12 seems missing.
Would also have some advantages over Note 4: faster, security updates, bigger screen, FM radio (ha), longer battery life, better bluetooth.

I love my note 4. It covers so many functions such as tv remote, portable mp3 player, book reader and movie player. I also love the fact that I can swap out deodexed roms and custom roms at will to enhance the device's longetivity. I do believe that there is no other phone quite like it on the market so I guess thats why I bought a back up note 4 many years ago ??

Yup we're still building
10 Android ROMs and counting.
Plus Ubuntu touch !

I am wondering if my Note 4 is finally dead. I love the phone and was hoping to still be using it but a few hours ago the phone just froze so I just removed the battery. After that, I put the battery back in and it wouldn't power up. I left the battery out for a 20-30 mintues and then put it back it. It was able to power on but after the Tmobil splash screen it goes to the screen before going to the home screen and when I swipe nothing happens. I am afraid my Note has finally given up after years of service. Is everyone else's Note 4 still kicking?
kolembo said:
Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?

Andrey12 said:
After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?
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Is it hard for you to find or buy another Note 4 battery? I know it's old by today's standards but I would assume there might still be some new third-party batteries for it. I still have 2 new batteries from Anker when bought two extra for the device a year or two ago. Good luck on trying to find something.

Update Android, Keep Root, Keep Fingerprint Reader, Keep T-Mobile US Wifi Calling/Vo-LTE... please help

Hi there. I've been out of the loop for a while. Still rocking the XZ1 compact (until Sony or someone else comes out with something small, sleek, and square again). Because of my general lack of knowledge and fear of losing any of the things mentioned in the title of post... I haven't done any updates. I'm still using Android 8.0.0
As many of you likely know the US version shipped with the fingerprint reader disabled, requiring use of non-us firmware to enable it. However in order to take advantage of Vo-LTE/Wi-Fi Calling/T-Mobile band 12... you basically had to combine a couple different firmware together to both keep the fingerprint reader and have the calling features simultaneously.
Obviously if there is a way of retaining root, wifi calling (as well as Vo-LTE and band 12 support) for T-mobile USA, and functioning fingerprint reader... I would love to update this device. I'm even open to third party ROMs provided I don't lose any device functionality.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I'm not terribly well versed in all of this but have been able to root every one of my devices and unlock their fullest potential with the help of individuals at XDA.
Thanks in advance.

I am pretty sure i saw mention in one or more of the custom rom threads here specificlly mention a version for volte on the forum here u could check those threads see if someone else have had a simaller qeustions in the past.
also look for mention of the fingerprint scanner is working or not.
Sorry i am pretty new at this mysellf i am sure u will find what your looking for there.

Same thoughts here. I moved onto another phone but was thinking about updating this one to Lineage and using it again, which would require flashing a new firmware. But mine is on 8.0 with everything working (T-mobile VoLTE and wifi calling, fingerprint reader, camera via DRM patch, and Magisk with safetynet passing and Google Pay working). It's been a while but I remember having to jump through some hoops to make that all work and would hate to mess any of it up.

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Same thoughts here. I moved onto another phone but was thinking about updating this one to Lineage and using it again, which would require flashing a new firmware. But mine is on 8.0 with everything working (T-mobile VoLTE and wifi calling, fingerprint reader, camera via DRM patch, and Magisk with safetynet passing and Google Pay working). It's been a while but I remember having to jump through some hoops to make that all work and would hate to mess any of it up.
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Yeah I love this phone (or rather I hate the look/shape/size of all the phones out today) so I'm afraid to jeopardize anything. I've debated buying another one for tinkering with.

POMF2K said:
Yeah I love this phone (or rather I hate the look/shape/size of all the phones out today) so I'm afraid to jeopardize anything. I've debated buying another one for tinkering with.
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I just can't handle the size of almost anything out there today, plus I refuse to buy anything without a headphone jack until there are no more options for me. I actually dislike the square shape because it's more uncomforable to hold though. I switched from the XZ1c to a Pixel 2 because my husband got a cheap phone when we switched carriers, but I never should have given up the XZ1c. Ended up hating the dongle life and traded in the Pixel 2 for an S10e. I love everything about the S10e except it's just too big. Lately the S10e's battery has been going downhill, and I ended up getting an iphone 12 mini for work and loving the size, so I've been thinking about switching back to the XZ1c. But I tried for a few days and had a few issues with the older version of Android...and that brings me to why I'm here in the same boat with you. Hope we can figure it out.
Edit: Specifically I'm hoping to upgrade to Lineage because it seems to be the most up to date of the available ROMs. From what I'm reading, I *think* all we need is an international firmware and the ROM. Not sure if we still need to swap a file in the firmware with the US one.

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I just can't handle the size of almost anything out there today, plus I refuse to buy anything without a headphone jack until there are no more options for me. I actually dislike the square shape because it's more uncomforable to hold though. I switched from the XZ1c to a Pixel 2 because my husband got a cheap phone when we switched carriers, but I never should have given up the XZ1c. Ended up hating the dongle life and traded in the Pixel 2 for an S10e. I love everything about the S10e except it's just too big. Lately the S10e's battery has been going downhill, and I ended up getting an iphone 12 mini for work and loving the size, so I've been thinking about switching back to the XZ1c. But I tried for a few days and had a few issues with the older version of Android...and that brings me to why I'm here in the same boat with you. Hope we can figure it out.
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I've never been a fan of Samsung build quality. But there's something to be said for the development community on more popular devices.
Sony is supposed to be bringing back the compact line. I don't know if it will have the same clean lines but I think they learned their lesson with the "soap bar" look of the xz2. That might work for other manufacturers but I think it's safe so assume the Japanese aesthetic is what keeps Sony fans loyal to the brand.
What do you think of the iphone 12 mini? From a software standpoint I hate all things apple but I've always been impressed with apply build quality. I actually got my girlfriend one of those SE models last summer to replace her dying 7 or 8. Figured it was small and pocketable, better pics than most android phones, and with a nice small screen the battery life would be great. I even thought I might grab one for myself to play around with. Total miss on Apple's behalf. Took it back in less than a week for horrible battery life. And she is much less picky about battery life than I am.
Honestly that's why I'm still using the 3 or 4 year old Sony. I don't like phones that don't fit in my pocket, don't like overly effeminate round edges, I don't want to pay $1000 for a phone, and I really can't stand batteries that die quickly. At this point I don't even know what brands to look at. I always thought about one plus, but those are huge. Pixels are pretty ugly. So I'm sitting here with an outdated phone... but love the look and it gets the job done.

@POMF2K
Like ur reading my mind hahaha love the compact series sadlly the xz1 compact is the last of its kind.
It also saddens me how there barelly any life here this part of the forum when i see other pieces of **** phones with a gazillion pages and hundred difrent roms.
Thinking we will never see anything like this again and that rumor a couple of months ago about a new compact had a leak and looks more like there budget serie L.

Don't know how everyone feels about xiaomi but it seems the MI 11 mini is happening. If I read it right, it's still going to be close to a pixel 3/5 in size. I bought a MI pad 4 and couldn't be bothered with the MI UI but it seems most xiaomi have a ton of development support and mine even came with an unlocked bootloader(on MSM Xtended now).
I'm currently using Bliss on my xz1c and it hits all the boxes for me. Great battery life, great performance and tons of customizations. Fingerprint works and I'm rooted but I don't use Google Pay and don't have volte on my plan(Cricket) so I can't help you there.

AlexKarimov said:
Don't know how everyone feels about xiaomi but it seems the MI 11 mini is happening. If I read it right, it's still going to be close to a pixel 3/5 in size. I bought a MI pad 4 and couldn't be bothered with the MI UI but it seems most xiaomi have a ton of development support and mine even came with an unlocked bootloader(on MSM Xtended now).
I'm currently using Bliss on my xz1c and it hits all the boxes for me. Great battery life, great performance and tons of customizations. Fingerprint works and I'm rooted but I don't use Google Pay and don't have volte on my plan(Cricket) so I can't help you there.
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Yeah dont support china how people stil do is beyond me (this is not a race thing)
Bliss really that good ? have you happend to also tried other roms if yes what did u think of those?

Wish I could use Xiaomi but they never have US LTE bands. It's a shame because they make some nice devices and have good community support. I hate that they would call a phone of that size "mini" though, since the Pixel form factor is still too big. Kinda feels insulting to those of us who want an actually mini phone.
@POMF2K I adore the form factor of the iphone 12 mini. The combination of square sides with rounded corners looks unisex to me (although I'm a woman and wouldn't mind a slightly feminine look). The screen is small enough for me to reach all corners with one hand even without bezels. Gestures on iOS are pretty easy to learn and use. Dislike the notch but it's not a dealbreaker. I upgraded from my work iphone 8 and miss the fingerprint reader but otherwise prefer it for being slightly smaller (especially narrower), and the low-bezel look is quite pretty. Battery life kind of sucks. I'd say it's on par with the SE. But since it's not my primary device, I don't sweat it too much.
S10e as my daily driver has generally been good for me except slightly too big, mediocre battery life, and I can't root it. But at the same time I've come to appreciate the amount of customization possible with Samsung's UI and their own apps (Good Lock etc.). I *almost* don't miss rooting (although I miss having better control over wakelocks, apps that run at boot, etc.). So currently my plan if nothing else works out is to replace the battery and run that phone into the ground before I finally have to decide what to get next. Hard decision between the next mini iphone (if there is one) which has the form factor I want but I'd be giving up Android, fingerprint scanner, headphone jack, SD card, etc....and whatever the smallest Android phone I can find is.

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Bliss really that good ? have you happend to also tried other roms if yes what did u think of those?
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I really like it but we might have different priorities. The things that drew me to it were the GPS(was a big concern for work) and the customization. Bliss uses SODP based GPS and it works just as good as stock but faster. The ROM is also very smooth and fast and there are instructions for VOLTE users in the first few posts.
CONS: It hasn't been updated since September so I'm sitting on the 9/5/20 security patch but I don't know if that should bother me. Also, I have a UI freeze every so often if I open a text message from the lock screen but a quick UI restart from the power menu fixes it. Since changing the text app to open a quick reply instead of the full app, the freeze is so seldom I usually forget about it.
I have a second xz1c that I got a deal on so I mainly use it to test any ROM before I use it on my main, so I have that option without jeopardizing my existing setup(cheating, I know). That being said, I have used quite a few of the ROMs.
Tested extensively:
AEX Pie and Q: Q was my favorite ROM until updates stopped and the last build didn't have functioning GPS. I loved everything else about it. Stable, fast and enough customizations to satisfy me. When it stopped, I rolled back to AEX Pie and loved it as much. GPS works great and plenty of customizations. Only con with it is cell signal drops every now and then and has to be rebooted one to several times.
Crdroid Pie: was my first custom ROM. Great ROM. No complaints on this one other than I jumped on the wagon and wanted to try the new Q ROMs(didn't have 2nd phone then).
Crdroid Q: Haven't tested as a daily driver but it seems to be a very stable ROM.
CONS: I might put all Q(except Bliss) in this. There is a modem notification that activates on start up. Data won't connect if preferred is LTE but 3G works fine. There's a work around in the settings to connect in 3g on boot and automatically switch over to LTE but it hasn't been reliable for me. I'm on Cricket Wireless in western US so maybe that has something to do with it.
Havoc Q: Great ROM here as well. More customizations, very stable and great battery life. Fingerprint worked on all Q ROMs so far but Pie was so long ago, I don't remember.
Haven't tested extensively:
Lineage 16 and 17: Tried 17 briefly when I was desperate for a GPS solution. It was smooth and stable but not to my taste so I didn't stay with it.
11 ROMs: All are still on first or 2nd version. Enough draw backs that I'm not moving to them yet.
I hope that was helpful. Sorry I can't answer some of the more important questions(VOLTE, WIFI calling and data bands) but if you asked in the ROM threads, you'd probably get the exact answers you're looking for.

This person on Reddit found the proper mix of .sin files to get FP, VOLTE, Wifi calling and MMS working for the XZ1C. Its the guide I used and everything works fine. I used the US Android 9 image from Xperifirm and the 'custom UK' image for vendor and system sin files.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/7433id/_/dnvum20