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I've been using my Touch Diamond for a couple of days now, and just read about the lens protector that apparently needs to be removed in order to take decent pictures.
Now I find, that it is impossible for me to remove the back cover!! I tried all sort of ways of pressing and sliding, but now I'm afraid to damage the device by using too much force...
Have any of you guys have similar problems?
Does have something to do with the heat build-up from the battery the expands the plastic cover?
Clean the back side so you have friction, and push UP. Should work. Just did it
pedmond said:
Clean the back side so you have friction, and push UP. Should work. Just did it
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That worked! You are GOLD, thanks.
Or you could throw it really hard towards the floor. Should also work...
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist
this has to be one of toughest problems ever to be resolved here!
a hammer would have helped...
I find taking the stylus out and pushing from that corner the easiest way. Its a bit of a pain to get off if you have greasy hands!!
this sounds disgusting. it sounds like his phone is submersed in oil and he needs to wash it to remove the cover =\
i also heard if you rub the diamond against your head several times then place it against a wall...it will stick..like a balloon.
now you try =\
Dude, WTF, you're a puss. You couldnt get the back cover on the phone open?
Clicky-clicky!
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
zyborg said:
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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My Diamond has a very solid feel, so I'm afraid I can't help you there. Just to make sure: are you certain the back cover is well inserted?
Trust me, I have (tried to make sure that it's properly inserted). I'm now considering sticking some aluminum foil in there - as this should also act as a heat sink (I'm also experiencing intense heat from the processor when WiFi is turned on for more than 5 minutes).
Maybe then the foil will also fill out that extra space, I don't know.
In general, I think that the back cover is VERY poor quality and really needs to be redone/redesigned. The diamond shapes on the back is a mess, as the device rocks back and forth when you have it on a completely flat surface (like a table) and operate the screen/buttons. It should be made with a completely flush back and a more sturdy plastic material (thicker, at least). Don't you think?
zyborg said:
Trust me, I have (tried to make sure that it's properly inserted). I'm now considering sticking some aluminum foil in there - as this should also act as a heat sink (I'm also experiencing intense heat from the processor when WiFi is turned on for more than 5 minutes).
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Probably a bad idea. Sure aluminium might transfer heat well, but it also transfers electricity very well.
If yours is asloose as you say there's the risk of it moving and making Sony-style exploding battery fireworks.
What if the foil just sits in the bottom part and doesn't come into contact with the battery? Does that still present a risk?
mr_Ray said:
Probably a bad idea. Sure aluminium might transfer heat well, but it also transfers electricity very well.
If yours is asloose as you say there's the risk of it moving and making Sony-style exploding battery fireworks.
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What if the foil just sits in the bottom part and doesn't come into contact with the battery? Does that still present a risk?
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I don't have a Diamond yet to answer that properly. It was just a general warning about putting metal foil in electronics. If you can see ANY way for it to move from where you put it to any other component or connector - don't do it. And that includes small parts of foil that may flake off from rubbing when the case moves (which is exactly what you're trying to stop, soit's potentially an issue).
I'd not risk it myself, but you probably wouldn't die. Probably. Much.
By the way, I tested the aluminum foil, and it worked well to remove the clicky-clicky sensation/sound, but I quickly removed it again after reading the warning above.
Can anyone suggest an alternative material to fill the gap?
zyborg said:
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Yes on two different Diamonds, poor design, or design flaw.
Clicky-clicky has gone bye-bye!
I found another solution:
Cut a business card (not too thick) in half and place it over the battery on the inside of the back cover. Slide the back cover back on. No more clicky-clicky!
Today i spent what seemed like an hour attempting to remove the battery cover on my touch pro and FINALLY did it! I wonder why HTC made it so difficult. To fix the creaking problem, i just put some strips of tape on my battery cover and that stopped the problem
the other day my power button stopped working and, since it was past my warranty, i took the phone apart and sprayed some CRC QD electronics cleaner on it to fix the problem. in the process of taking it apart i forgot to take out my sim and sd card and the tray where they fit in came off with the back casing. i put the little ribbon thing on the bottom back in the hole it came out of but it must be messed up because now my phone doesnt recognize my sim or sd. i dont have much experience working with phones and i could find no help online for proper instalation of the sim tray. can someboy tell me how to fix this?
also the speaker and vibration stopped working after my lock button repair but i dont believe i touched any wires connected to that. is it just a coincidence? possible that the cleaner got in there? how can i fix it?
obviously the sim card is my priority right now but any help would be appreciated.
thanks!
I would suggest looking for either connexion2005 (aka mobiletechvideos) or AdamOutler. Both of them are very knowledgeable in the hardware of the Captivate, and I would guess that either of them could help you out with your situation.
I just so happen to have a couple of the SIM/SDCard circuit boards. I'll have to find them. I ordered a few of them while researching UnBrickable Mod. The circuit board is held on with double-sided tape on top of a metallic shield. It's very easy to replace. Anyway, PM sent.
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I just so happen to have a couple of the SIM/SDCard circuit boards. I'll have to find them. I ordered a few of them while researching UnBrickable Mod. The circuit board is held on with double-sided tape on top of a metallic shield. It's very easy to replace. Anyway, PM sent.
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Do I really need a new part? I'm not certain but nothing seems to be broken and everything is intact. It feels more like something is just out of place and not making a connection. If it helps to understand what I'm trying to say I could post a pic for you to evaluate.
The part is cheap and easy to replace.
ok ill try get my paypal in order and get that to you as soon as i can. do you have an idea for why my speaker and vibration isnt working?
Actually I figured out the problem. I took everything out piece by piece and it was just a loose connector under the logic board. Sorry for bothering you with a stupid mistake but thanks for all your help and suggestions
I am the proud owner of a new I9000, the b*&tard love child of 2 ebay purchases. Just wondering whether the leftover entrails are worth keeping. Specifically:
- broken USB port. I have a replacement part and looks easy enough to de/solder. Anyone tried??
- vol down button. Looks a nightmare to try to replace. Anyone tried??
- chip in screen. Not worried about it being perfect but its too deep to polish out and when you put a screen protector on it a bubble appears. Any ideas?
- chrome bezel. WOWOW didn't Samsung make it a separate element easy to replace...?? Has anyone done these successfully (first time, every time), or is there any way to make it look good? Other than hiding with a case which I have already done!
Thank you for all, any, or even no help.
H.
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Thank you for all, any, or even no help.
H.
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look at manuals and guides in My Android collections for your answers
If you're handy with a soldering iron and have a good one (not one of those fire-starting ones that plugs straight into the wall with a handle like five inches away from the tip) then the micro USB and button shouldn't be too tricky to replace. The button isn't that terribly important anyway depending on how you use your phone.
As far as the screen chip, I'd be tempted to use one of the screen protector methods using alcohol, perhaps the alcohol would fill the gap and stay there? Probably wouldn't work, but it might be worth a try.
I replaced the chrome bezel with a cheap, crappy gold one from china (and a gold battery cover) and it's totally pimp. The bezel is actually the very last piece in the phone though. You have to take EVERYTHING apart to get it out, it's a huge pain. I ended up slipping with a knife while I was doing it and cutting the vibrator off so I spent a few weeks waiting for the replacement touch button/vibrator/microphone board to come in.
OK, I have found the issue that causes the touchscreen ghost touches, unresponsive touchscreen, etc. This guide is short and simple, and is provided with NO WARRANTY, TO BE FOLLOWED AT YOUR OWN RISK. This guide requires that you open your device WHICH VOIDS THE WARRANTY. Those of us with the original grouper/WiFi/2012 version are well outside our warranties, so that really doesn't matter now.
To explain, our devices use (to my knowledge) an actively driven capacitive touchscreen sensor. It has been narrowed down that a significant number of devices suffer from a grounding issue where the voltage potentials between the case and screen will cause a number of touchscreen issues when the device is electrically insulated from the person touching the screen. There are many YouTube videos and guides on how to diagnose if your touchscreen has this issue; I will not detail those here. To be simple, if you set your device on an insulated surface like a wood table and touch the screen with ONE HAND while not touching the device with your other hand, the touchscreen will go ape**** on you.
For those of us suffering these issues, it can ruin the entire experience of the tablet. I have deduced through a logical process the location and cause of this issue, which I will detail in the guide below.
The nexus 7 uses a filmed metal back, which is mechanically grounded to the motherboard via two "blind" gold spring contacts on the motherboard which touch the filmed metal backing of the case back. I call these "blind" contacts because there is no corresponding electrical contact for them to sit upon, simply the material of the case itself is what they contact when the case is closed.
What you will do by following this guide, is physically break these tabs off the motherboard, thereby breaking the circuit of the faulty ground point. The reasons this is successful in resolving the touchscreen issue appear to be twofold; first the ground points wear off the filmed metal of the back QUICKLY due to flexion of the plastic case back and therefore end up forming a SECOND capacitor on the device case back. This causes electrical potential to build between the plastic case back and the device itself, causing unreliable reading and operation of the capacitive touchscreen. Second, the intermittent ground connection causes unreliable grounding of this capacitive potential, which is worse than no ground at all in the respect of a capacitive coupling of the case back and the device.
These issues could not and cannot be resolved by a firmware flash, because it is a physical problem. Asus could not resolve the issue completely, because even if all components involved are replaced the issue will arise again due to the way the device is constructed. It was simply a poor design.
So, to get to the meat and potatoes of the fix;
1.) Pop the back off your nexus 7. Locate and REMOVE THE BATTERY CONNECTOR to prevent any possibility of a short while you follow the rest of the guide.
2.) Locate the two blind gold spring pins on the bottom right corner as circled in red on my attached picture. Note how they do not have any corresponding connection on the case back as the WiFi GPS Bluetooth and NFC antennas do. This is because these points were meant to found the case back to prevent exactly the issues we are seeing. However due to poor design they have become the CAUSE of the issue.
3.) Most simple step: break BOTH connectors completely off the board by gently bending them back and forth until they snap cleanly off the board. There is no chance of trace damage when doing this - the solder is MUCH stronger than the super thin spring connectors and they will easily break cleanly at the solder joint. If you do not break BOTH off, the touchscreen will get WORSE because you have simply enhanced the ability of the case back to form a capacitive coupling with the case back. So break both, or do not bother.
4.) Replace the battery connector and case back, ensuring you do NOT damage any of the other fragile gold spring connections, if you do you will lose some of your antennas and these connectors are a pain in the ass to replace.
I have attached a picture that shows the two points that need broken off the board circled in RED.
That's it, you're done. Reboot the device and enjoy a touchscreen that actually ****ing works. You're welcome.
Again this guide is provided at your own risk, I am not responsible for anyone who breaks the wrong connector despite my detailed guide, and I am not responsible for any other damage your fat fingers might cause while dicking around inside a sensitive electronic device.
I understand if some are too squeamish to attempt this guide, but I respectfully request that those afraid to attempt do not bother ****ting up the thread with useless posts. Constructive comments are always welcomed.
If this works for you as it did for me (I.E. perfectly) please hit the THANKS button!
I'm also currently unemployed, so if I've helped you and you are better off than I am then donations to my google wallet account are HUGELY APPRECIATED!
Once confirmed, I would ask that the mods sticky this thread.
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And the dumb ****s at Asus tech dept. of course couldn't figure this out. Never again will I give Asus a dollar for anything.
ChristianJay said:
And the dumb ****s at Asus tech dept. of course couldn't figure this out. Never again will I give Asus a dollar for anything.
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Even if they knew exactly what to do the company is not going to allow them to "damage" devices in order to fix them. That's how Asus would see it, as damage. It is against the original, albeit flawed, design.
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Even if they knew exactly what to do the company is not going to allow them to "damage" devices in order to fix them. That's how Asus would see it, as damage. It is against the original, albeit flawed, design.
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They don't do **** to fix anything, I sent them one, a 2012 N7 and they did absolutely nothing to remedy it, re-flashed the O/s or some such crap. I came up with a partial fix myself.
Just out of curiosity, have you done my fix and can you post confirmation so we can get the mods to sticky this thread?
As much as I'd love to get everyone's old n7 for dirt cheap when they think its "broken", I'd also like to see us snub Asus with our own permanent real fix as opposed to their bs runaround they pull until the warranty is up.
So please do confirm if possible.
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Just out of curiosity, have you done my fix and can you post confirmation so we can get the mods to sticky this thread?
As much as I'd love to get everyone's old n7 for dirt cheap when they think its "broken", I'd also like to see us snub Asus with our own permanent real fix as opposed to their bs runaround they pull until the warranty is up.
So please do confirm if possible.
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Hi, Just replaced a broken screen few days on it with a new one and got lots of ghost touches and non responsive spots.
So I tried your suggestion and it works for me , I took a less destructive approach and just put some tiny pieces of duct tape on the back cover where the connectors touch it instead of breaking them off.
My new screen is in place and working properly :good: .
Thanks.
yefet2000 said:
Hi, Just replaced a broken screen few days on it with a new one and got lots of ghost touches and non responsive spots.
So I tried your suggestion and it works for me , I took a less destructive approach and just put some tiny pieces of duct tape on the back cover where the connectors touch it instead of breaking them off.
My new screen is in place and working properly :good: .
Thanks.
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Mods please make this a sticky thread at your convenience, I believe this info will help a large number of N7 users, and it seems like according to the user above that it works when done in a non destructive way as well.
I ve had the same problem with my touch screen, it only happened when i connected the back cover of the nexus( i had a screen change)... so before i try to break the 2 pins i ve just put some electric isolation tape (plastic) and touch works like a charm.... thanks!!!
Be careful what kind of tape you use, some tape could make it worse.
You're welcome.
If anyone else has succeeded using this method or using tape, please post your results. I'm going to assume it hasn't harmed anyone or I'd have heard about it already.
Will attempt this tomorrow and confirm back. Using tape method.
Carried out the tape option, along with other additional fixes. Wipe cache, turn off animations, limit background processes to 3 and others. Seems to be working for me perfectly now.
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To explain, our devices use (to my knowledge) an actively driven capacitive touchscreen sensor. It has been narrowed down that a significant number of devices suffer from a grounding issue where the voltage potentials between the case and screen will cause a number of touchscreen issues when the device is electrically insulated from the person touching the screen. There are many YouTube videos and guides on how to diagnose if your touchscreen has this issue; I will not detail those here.
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Can someone please refer me to a YouTube video that shows how to diagnose if the touchscreen has this issue? Thanks.
It's so simple to type into google search "nexus 7 2012 touch screen problem video" you'll need to do it yourself.
Sorry.
Brilliant!
Finally I can now use my Nexus 7. At first I thought the erratic touches were due to the oil on the screen but upon replacing the screen protector, the erratic touches are still present.
Tried taping the contacts with a tape (A simple electrical tape would do), and much to my surprise, the device is usable now.
Also working for me, i just broke the pins. Much better now!
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk
Tested the tape/isolator option (less hardcode) in my "bad" N7 (the other works flawlessly and they were both bough day 1, maybe different revisions, not gonna open that one incase!), and the ghosting hits and touchscreen ignore problems seem to be completely gone.
Thanks a lot!!
Thanks so much for the fix, it's a new tablet now. I confirm this works by using isolator tape over the pins. Very easy fix, took me 2 mins to do it... would have liked to know about it sooner
Thanks, I already had managed to solve partially the problem placing an aluminium foil into the tablet (risky and complicated so didn't posted), but this is easier and WiFi reception is better too. Anyway it is not perfect yet, same problem than my solution: try crossing axis vertically or horizontally (only one hand, tablet on a table) and weird things happen like no touch detected, very fast touchs, etc... I will post here if I figure out something else.
[SOLUTION] SPen drawing in >specific< portions of the screen >without< touching.
Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
[Solution]
Since nobody gave a damn and I searched REALLY HARD for a solution. I will take one step forward and help anyone who maybe will have this problem in the future.
What you will need:
- Glue ( I recommend a Glue Stick, since it fixes good and can be easily removed.)
- Aluminum Foil
- Scissor
You will have to crop a little rectangle and test in which height of your SPen the foil will stop the problem.
In mine happened this way:
too close to the tip and the pen won't be detected
Too far from the tip and the problem remains.
In this position all functions work as intended. See photo.
Hit thanks if I helped you!
I did not want to use warranty because I will hate to wait weeks without a cellphone.
You can paint the foil for aesthetics purposes as I will manage to do better than I did
The cropped foil can be in the minimum size you achieve to make it work. Foil is very thin so there is no problems in inputting and removing from the slot.
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After several days I tried the pen without the foil stick and surprise ! It works as intended ! As I said eletromagnetism is tricky so you won't want the foil to be permanently glued to your pen.
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Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
Please Help !
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Have you ever dropped the device?
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Have you ever dropped the device?
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Yes , but nothing that would cause severe damage. I always use my case and the problem started quite spontaneously.
And I don't think a fall damage would cause this problems in a perfectly squared portion of the screen
> I can use airviewing( in this square) in a uncommon distance (closer) what is a oxymoron because I write without touching in higher distances (WTH)
TheReal V said:
Anybody had this problem? If yes, you did you solve this ?
Really annoying and Samsung just thinks I'm idiot telling me to do things like:
- Change the tips
- Hard Reset
[Solution]
Since nobody gave a damn and I searched REALLY HARD for a solution. I will take one step forward and help anyone who maybe will have this problem in the future.
What you will need:
- Glue ( I recommend a Glue Stick, since it fixes good and can be easily removed.)
- Aluminum Foil
- Scissor
You will have to crop a little rectangle and test in which height of your SPen the foil will stop the problem.
In mine happened this way:
too close to the tip and the pen won't be detected
Too far from the tip and the problem remains.
In this position all functions work as intended. See photo.
Hit thanks if I helped you!
I did not want to use warranty because I will hate to wait weeks without a cellphone.
You can paint the foil for aesthetics purposes as I will manage to do better than I did
The cropped foil can be in the minimum size you achieve to make it work. Foil is very thin so there is no problems in inputting and removing from the slot.
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Please change the beginning of your solution section. Comes off very condescending and people do give a damn. Considering that I posted a question to you about it at 130am my time, and people probably just didn't have anything to say as they might not have an idea as to why the issue was happening, or didn't get a chance to browse the forum as yet.
Good hack either way with the aluminum foil. Does it cause any issues with charging the method of the pen? Have you used to pen to depletion and then see if it charges after?
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Please change the beginning of your solution section. Comes off very condescending and people do give a damn. Considering that I posted a question to you about it at 130am my time, and people probably just didn't have anything to say as they might not have an idea as to why the issue was happening, or didn't get a chance to browse the forum as yet.
Good hack either way with the aluminum foil. Does it cause any issues with charging the method of the pen? Have you used to pen to depletion and then see if it charges after?
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Well, been using it for a few hours and I got no interference in bluetooth functions and neither in the recharging by induction. But what you said about recharging made me think that the smaller the foil crop... the better.
TheReal V said:
Well, been using it for a few hours and I got no interference in bluetooth functions and neither in the recharging by induction. But what you said about recharging made me think that the smaller the foil crop... the better.
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Nice. Have you thought of moving the hack into the pen? That'll be awesome to do and aid with aesthetics. I haven't gone to the point of taking one apart but it's probably just some 3m glue being used to hold the unit together.
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Nice. Have you thought of moving the hack into the pen? That'll be awesome to do and aid with aesthetics. I haven't gone to the point of taking one apart but it's probably just some 3m glue being used to hold the unit together.
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That is something to consider but I don't feel comfortable messing with the insides of SPen since it's so fragile and intend to be water resistant. Maybe if I had more knowledge about it's structure...
3M glue I can say is something you won't desire. I wouldn't stick something permanently in/on the Spen. Electromagnetism is kind of tricky so the solution today can be the problem tomorrow. So easy removal should be preferred.
I use Gnacad quite a bit and the best I've achieved so far is to put the floating icon in the trash can (long press it) that seems to tone down it's sensitivity but it is still sensitive to the temperature and wether the screen sensitivity setting is set to screen protector or not and of course if a screen protector is used which I no longer use (paid for the gorilla might as well enjoy it.!
Photo's[emoji2398] by Sully using SM-N960U or SM-870A
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I use Gnacad quite a bit and the best I've achieved so far is to put the floating icon in the trash can (long press it) that seems to tone down it's sensitivity but it is still sensitive to the temperature and wether the screen sensitivity setting is set to screen protector or not and of course if a screen protector is used which I no longer use (paid for the gorilla might as well enjoy it.!
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YES ! I just think exactly the same about the Gorilla Glass. I'm not paying for this and covering with some cheaper glass protector. I just take good care of my screen and it looks amazing !
Did you have this same ''drawing'' problem? Excuse my ignorance but... What is Gnacad?