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Update when Bootloader unlock?

i have rooted and unlocked my 4 hours old moto G 2nd G, i dont plan on installing any ROM since there will be new updates coming for this phone, im asking, can i update to 4.4.5 or 5.0 on this phone if the bootloader is unlock and i installed twrp?

Motorola will not allow to install the updates on modified Stock..
If U wants OTA updates then u have to remove everything like Root, recovery & Xposed installer then flash stock recovery using fastboot...
Rooting & installing Custom roms & recoverys breaks OTA Updates.

Preparing for Lollipop! Please read before upgrading.

Hello Developers!
Here I will put forth instructions required for successful upgrade to lollipop. (These instruction are based on my own experience. I have been using Sony Xperia and Nexus phone for quite a while and I have flashed lot of roms. I may not have much experience in developing but definitely lot of experience in flashing! )
So, motorola has officially put up release notes here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/102639
So the questions that are bugging most people are:
1. When will the OTA be available in particular country?
2. Will I be able to smoothly able to upgrade and gain root access on Android L?
For first question: I really can't help you there. It depends on motorola. Android upgrades are rolled out region by region. So OTA will hit your phone when it is available in your region.
Second question:
To answer that, let us first consider few things.
New bootloader:
The very first note on release notes put out by Motorla says that: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update. It means that new bootloader has been included in the update which does not allow downgrading.
ART runtime:
Android L uses new Android Runtime (ART). Some applications have not yet been optimized for ART and have problems with ART. To make sure the apps which you require daily work fine with ART, read the changlog given by its developer. If it has not yet been optimized then request the developer to optimize it for ART. If I am not wrong tools to develop apps using ART were released when Google released L preview. So you can expect many apps have been already optimized for ART.
When will the upgrade fail and when will it won't?
1. Locked/Unlocked bootloader:
If you have locked/unlocked bootloader but HAVE NOT CUSTOMIZED or HAVE NOT MESSED WITH RECOVERY AND KERNEL partition then don't worry. OTA upgrade will definitely hit your phone and you will be able to smoothly upgrade to L.
2. Modified kernel/recovery partition and root:
If you have rooted your moto g then it means you unlocked your bootloader, flashed a custom recovery and flashed the superuser binary. In this case you won't be able to upgrade to android L. According to few article I have read, you have to be completely stock before update. Completely as in you shold have never rooted your phone or flashed a custom kernel. Even if you have unrooted after rooting or flashed a stock kernel/recovery after flashing custom kernel/recovery is NOT allowed for Android L upgrade.
3. Unstable internet connection while downloading OTA.
Unstable connection might corrupt the OTA upgrade file. Make sure you have stable internet connection while downloading OTA.
Considering all these there you are in one of the following scenarios:
1. Locked/unlocked bootloader with no customizations to any partitions:
Don't worry. You won't face any problems with OTA upgrade. Just make sure all your apps work fine on ART.
2. Unlocked bootloader with stock/custom rom and sotck/custom kernel with root or unrooted after root:
You will need to flash official kitkat firmware. Official firmware images for Moto G 2014 are located here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
Then you can upgrade via OTA.
3. Unlocked bootlaoder, root but do not want to lose root priviliges:
Then you will need to wait till developers modify new custom roms based on android L. Then you can flash those by following their instructions. To root stock android L build, a custom kernel is required and also according to chainfire the system.img will be need to be patched. So it is not possible to root sotck android L unless motorola release kernel sources and some developer pathces the system.img.
I have no experience in handling/using/modifying carrier locked phones. So I cannot help you with those.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT TO FLASH STOCK/CUSTOM LOLLIPOP ROM OF DIFFERENT MOTO G VARIANT.
Enjoy and happy flashing!

Nice info, thanks!

Also: you need 850 MB of available space or the OTA update will refuse to download.

Thanks man!
It the only thing you did is unlock boot loader and no more... And do the ota update, might boot loader stay unlocked?

El_Froz said:
Thanks man!
It the only thing you did is unlock boot loader and no more... And do the ota update, might boot loader stay unlocked?
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Yes it will stay unlocked.

Any disadvantage in unlocking boot loader other than voiding the warranty? We will still get future OTA updates?
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Trekker56 said:
Any disadvantage in unlocking boot loader other than voiding the warranty? We will still get future OTA updates?
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Yes. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.

AD9295 said:
Yes. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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I know about the warranty.
What about future OTA updates?

Trekker56 said:
I know about the warranty.
What about future OTA updates?
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I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.

AD9295 said:
I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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Thanks. Good to know.

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axl409 said:
Hey, this seems the right thread to ask.
I'm not so hyped about lollipop (doesn't see all these big changes), but sooner or later I will upgrade of course.
My plan on upgrade is when some custom rom with lollipop will come out.
So my questions are:
-will I be able to flash a lollipop rom from my rooted Moto g with philz recovery and stock/custom kernel?
-do I have to upgrade (somehow) the bootloader or the recovery? And if I have, do I need to return to stock KitKat and then upgrade to official lollipop and then unlock bootloader again and flash recovery again?
Thanks for your answers!
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Well waiting for lollipop custom rom is actually the best solution yet!
You need following things to upgrade to lollipop:
New bootloader
Recovery compatible with that bootloader
Kernel comatible with lollipop rom which you want to flash
New baseband (radio)
And system and data partition image
When a developer creates a flashable zip, it generally includes:
System and data partition image
Kernel
So before flashing that lollipop rom. You just need to flash
New bootloader
Recovery
Baseband(radio)
Then from recovery you can flash the zip file.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do all this.
Only problem is, it takes time for motorola to release factory images like google releases for nexus phones.
So you will need to wait till some developer captures OTA, extract all the partition images and share it online. (Make sure the uploaded partition images are of the same moto g variant which you have)

axl409 said:
Hey, this seems the right thread to ask.
I'm not so hyped about lollipop (doesn't see all these big changes), but sooner or later I will upgrade of course.
My plan on upgrade is when some custom rom with lollipop will come out.
So my questions are:
-will I be able to flash a lollipop rom from my rooted Moto g with philz recovery and stock/custom kernel?
-do I have to upgrade (somehow) the bootloader or the recovery? And if I have, do I need to return to stock KitKat and then upgrade to official lollipop and then unlock bootloader again and flash recovery again?
Thanks for your answers!
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Actually it is easier to flash official kitkat images and update to lollipop with ota update. Then you can flash any custom lollipop rom just by following rom developer's instruction. It will be easier.

Thanks for this thread Bro.

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axl409 said:
Thanks a lot @AD9295!
So, I was searching around for returning stock, because you said in the end I'll have to and also because I want to be prepared in time!
I found the thread "restore to stock" and in the end, there's written this at q18 (I made a screenshot).
It's good to do this even if I have philz recovery? Will I get the update or I need to flash also the stock recovery? I know there's written, but it's cool? Or maybe something could go wrong?
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If you are using rooted custom rom:
Flash the complete official kitkat image. images are located here:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
If you are just using rooted stock rom then follow the instruction in response to that q18. You do need to flash stock recovery as mentioned there. That's what is meant by returning to "stock".

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axl409 said:
No I'm just rooted, and of course have installed some apps that need root.
So in order to restore stock I should:
- uninstall the root apps
- do the q18 (but where I found the stock recovery image?)
- waiting for the ota lollipop upgrade that will update all (bootloader, recovery, radio, system and data).
Am I correct?
And then from lollipop do again root and install future lollipop compatible recovery.
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Yes you are correct. the zip files located here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36 contain all the official .img files. You can download it from there (I understand file size is large but it's worth downloading coz you will always be able to return to stock even if you mess up your phone pretty badly ) or you can ask on forum

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AD9295 said:
I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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What benefit gives just unlocking and not rooting?

Do I get OTA Updates after root?

If I have root on my device, I get OTA updates or not?

saarxee said:
If I have root on my device, I get OTA updates or not?
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Yes you will get, but no they wont install UNTIL you remove root

And, you need the stock recovery as well + unroot.

I need to install stock firmware and It's deleted all my data?

Do i also need to have locked bootloader?Thanks.

Er, if you have a custom ROM, you might get the notification, but the install will almost surely fail; I wouldn't even try...even if it somehow installs, it'll probably just wreck your ROM.
But, er, OTA updates (if you are on stock already) don't wipe any data. But, if you are on a custom ROM and you want to get the OTA update, you'll need to flash back to stock and you should factory reset when switching ROMs (custom -> stock).
Locked or unlocked bootloader: it doesn't matter. I have an unlocked bootloader and I received the 5.0.2 update no problem.

Does the latest security patch update stay when you root?

I was wondering what sort of changes take place when you root the G5s Plus. I got several patch updates so far. Will the latest update stay once I root the device? I just want to root the device for now, not install any custom roms.

I received an OTA with an unlocked bootloader so I don't see any reason why you wouldn't with root. This only works with the stock recovery though, if you have TWRP installed I don't think it will work.

William1020000 said:
I received an OTA with an unlocked bootloader so I don't see any reason why you wouldn't with root. This only works with the stock recovery though, if you have TWRP installed I don't think it will work.
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Rooting involves 3 steps. Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and install Magisk patch. Just unlocked bootloader doesn't mean phone is rooted.

androidman2018 said:
Rooting involves 3 steps. Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, and install Magisk patch. Just unlocked bootloader doesn't mean phone is rooted.
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Unlikely that the OTA will install if you have TWRP and Magisk... I wonder if we can still use Flashfire to flash the OTA and keep recovery and root?

OTA Updates with bootloader unlocked?

Hi guys!
I have a simple question... I have a P10 VTR-L09 rebranded to VTR-L29... After a few month with EMUI i have tested LineageOS from Openkirin.net, but the ROM has to many bugs for me so i get back to EMUI.
Everything worked fine, now i have 8.0.0.374 (C432) on my device, but my bootloader is still UNLOCKED!
Will i receive OTA Updates in the future because i am on StockROM back again or is OTA not working with an unlocked bootloader?
Thx a lot!

OTA shouldn't be a problem with unlocked bootloader WITHOUT root. If you rooted your phone it's not possible to update via OTA.
In fact, you're not able to complete lock the bootloader on Oreo again.

Ok, i have no root, only bootloader unlock, so i will see the next weeks if it works... If not, i have to flash updates via TWRP...

stefan.irmen said:
Ok, i have no root, only bootloader unlock, so i will see the next weeks if it works... If not, i have to flash updates via TWRP...
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Yes, you need to be very patient. Huawei update policy is a miracle, no know really knows when they release updates in which region, there are even different release times for the same model and region
If OTA doesn't work, you can try my guide, tutorial #3 (only works when you got the OTA update)

Yes i know... Before P10 i used some Xiaomi Phones and the community and update policy is awesome! But if you know a little bit of bootloader and TWRP you should be able to handle the most phones i think...
Thx a lot for your help!

Jannomag said:
OTA shouldn't be a problem with unlocked bootloader WITHOUT root. If you rooted your phone it's not possible to update via OTA.
In fact, you're not able to complete lock the bootloader on Oreo again.
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If i unlocked the bootloader and rooted with magisk, then used the remove root option in magisk ,would ota work again?