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I'm debating on whether to get a 1GB SD card or a smaller size. Besides the obvious such as watching movies and storing MP3s.
What eslse do you guys do with your 1GB SD card?
dumping maps on it for tomtom for instance
Install my games, MP3, movies to it.
I have favourite cab files, mp3, movies and audiobooks on mine.
Sooner or later you will fill the 1GB card.
You can never have enough memory!
gps gps gps
maps + maps + maps + maps
or something widh is not larger than 1gb
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orez said:
this arab disease must me killed. all we have to stand up and finally take action against it. we welcome them in our countries .... this is very dangerous... stand up and take action
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Besides the fact that you're off topic, I think it's important to keep this forum free from political statements.
Loads of stuff goes on the card. Believe me if you buy smaller, you'll regret it. Go for the 1GB.
TomeRaider and Wikipedia, which takes up over 500 Kb. I love being able to carry the entire wikipedia with me wherever I go!
Even 1GB is tight.
You have to watch which pictures/which maps/which MP3s/which books you install.
It's no Free-For-All!
With 1GB, you have manage your memory carefully.
It's not like the old days!
Depending on what you're storing. I have my MP3s, movies, data files (pocket word, Excel, PDFs, pictures).
I'd agree xda-rocks -> you can never have enough memory.
If you can wait .. when the prices drop, pick up a 2GB.. or 1GB x2. Either way, i only had my 1GB card for 3 weeks, running out of space already
movies... songs... all sort of stuff...
storage and memory are never enuff
ebooks.... thousands of ebooks
and music, and pictures. i have the camera save all the pictures and video to the gig card
Well hell, IF I had a 1gig storage card, I would use it to store 3 days of backups, that would round to about 180mb. then use the rest for movies, music, and file sharing when I have my webserver running on my BA at the hot spot.
PS. if you get a card that large, invest in a usb card reader on your main computer. Makes life that much easier.
cheers
how do you organize it all? is there a program you use to organize the program installations?
i use it first to store 3 backup files (3 weeks' worth), a whole bunch of movies, games, data files, and programs. have to agree, you can't have enough memory =)
the backup files really are essential. and i usually make sure i have at least 2 of them on hand, in case the latest one is unstable.
somynex =)
I have a 1GB 66x SD card, with the i-mate ROM update and WMP10. I now sync to "Napster To Go" and have a great little media center.
Also store TomTom maps, all additional software is installed to the SDcard too.
As soon as I find a 2GB 66x card, i'll get one of those.
I have recently got a 2G card with my Navigon 5 Update
So I store normally a 250Mb Card of Germany, now for Holidays I stored a 1Gig card of Europe on it, removed some MP3s and of course have 3 or 4 Weeks of Weekly Fullbackups (sprite backup) on it.
So I have normally over 1Gig of MP3s on it , one map for navigon and some games and my backups...
hi guys,
i have searched forum, and realized that this is asked, but there is no clear results yet.
some people say get higher speed even with comparison to lower classes. and some people share their writing speed with adaptor, not on hd2.
i have sandisk 8gb class 2 sd card. and planning to replace with transcend 16 gb class 6. and if i will replace i will do this only for music tab. because its slowness drives me crazy.
anyway, what do you say guys? do you recommend me to buy new one? and can class 6 sd card owners share their opinions? but please, in terms of hd2, not adaptor speed.
thanks
I have a class 2, and to play graphic intensive games they have to be installed on the phone since the class 2 is too slow. I don't have a class 6, but I would think it would be more than enough for what the phone does.
My music was loading up slowly too till I put them in the correct file structure: Music/Artist/Album/XX.mp3
Also, I've noticed the phone performs better with .mp3 files rather than .wma or something else.
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I have a class 2, and to play graphic intensive games they have to be installed on the phone since the class 2 is too slow. I don't have a class 6, but I would think it would be more than enough for what the phone does.
My music was loading up slowly too till I put them in the correct file structure: Music/Artist/Album/XX.mp3
Also, I've noticed the phone performs better with .mp3 files rather than .wma or something else.
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are you saying to put all music files in that directory.
celestial123 said:
hi guys,
i have searched forum, and realized that this is asked, but there is no clear results yet.
some people say get higher speed even with comparison to lower classes. and some people share their writing speed with adaptor, not on hd2.
i have sandisk 8gb class 2 sd card. and planning to replace with transcend 16 gb class 6. and if i will replace i will do this only for music tab. because its slowness drives me crazy.
anyway, what do you say guys? do you recommend me to buy new one? and can class 6 sd card owners share their opinions? but please, in terms of hd2, not adaptor speed.
thanks
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have u tried formatting ur class 2 sd card to fat32 format with 16kb cluster ? Do a full format if u haven been using 16kb cluster. works for me. dont have lagging over at music tab.
im using 8gb class 2 card given stock.
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are you saying to put all music files in that directory.
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Create a folder on the SD card called Music Then a folder in there for the Artist (Madonna, Jay-Z etc.) and another folder in artist for their Albums and put the mp3 for that album in there. So you'll end up creating a bunch of folders for each artist and each of their albums.
So your file structure on your SD card would be: Music/Artist(name)/Album(name)/MP3
This sped up my music tab considerably. BTW, if you use Windows Media Player or DoubleTwist to sync music, they will do the same thing and put them in the file structure I mentioned. Make sure they are mp3 files, I had problems with wma.
Hope this speeds things up for you guy's, like it did for me.
pool7979 said:
have u tried formatting ur class 2 sd card to fat32 format with 16kb cluster ? Do a full format if u haven been using 16kb cluster. works for me. dont have lagging over at music tab.
im using 8gb class 2 card given stock.
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first of all i want to thank you for your replies guys.
@pool7979
what is 16 kb cluster and how can i find out whether i am using 16kb cluster or not. secondly what is full format?
thank you
For me, going from the stock 16gb class 2 that came with the phone to an 8gb class 6 made a huge difference. I have garmin mobile xt loading from the SD card, and program start up, address and POI search, map display and redraw is tremendously faster. Picture and album browsing is also much faster. I'm thinking about getting a 16gb class 10 to see if it'll make even more difference.
Take a look at this thread as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664933
Your 8Gb may be formatted differently to how your 16gb was.
ok so basically, the higher the class, the faster the card ?.
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first of all i want to thank you for your replies guys.
@pool7979
what is 16 kb cluster and how can i find out whether i am using 16kb cluster or not. secondly what is full format?
thank you
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hi sorry for late reply. what i did was insert sd card into pc. thrn right click format. from there i can set what cluster size it is . i think its something to do with.how data can be arranged/store in terms of size setting. i once read using 16kb seems to be the most optimum setting for winmo. seems to work for me.
to me class dun really matter for mobile phones as reading and writing on card are not that intensive. i would rather use a class 6 on a camera or act as usb thumbdrive instead with portable reader.
class speed
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ok so basically, the higher the class, the faster the card ?.
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Basically the class rating means the minimum speed of the card. Class 2 must have a minimum speed of 2Mb per second, class 4 -4Mb, class 6-6Mb class 10-10Mb.
With a good quality card, the actual speed can be many times this, so with some makes, you will see an advertised speed ofup to 32Mb per second for a class 6, but in normal use the maximum is usually just under 20Mb per second.
So you may think a faster card is better, but this is not always the case. Just because a card can read at 20Mb per second, this does not mean a mobile phone can transfer data to or from the card at this speed. These sort of read/write speeds are designed for high end digital cameras.
A mobile phone does not need speeds this high, even to watch HD video. So anything above a Class 4 is a waste.
It is much better to purchase a good quality branded class 2 or 4 card.
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Create a folder on the SD card called Music Then a folder in there for the Artist (Madonna, Jay-Z etc.) and another folder in artist for their Albums and put the mp3 for that album in there. So you'll end up creating a bunch of folders for each artist and each of their albums.
So your file structure on your SD card would be: Music/Artist(name)/Album(name)/MP3
This sped up my music tab considerably. BTW, if you use Windows Media Player or DoubleTwist to sync music, they will do the same thing and put them in the file structure I mentioned. Make sure they are mp3 files, I had problems with wma.
Hope this speeds things up for you guy's, like it did for me.
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or you use a software like the free/donation ware mp3tag. it will handle all aspects of working with mp3 tag's. i change the file structure of my 500+ mp3 files, from 'all in one folder' to the folder sorted format xeebot mentoined, with only a few mouse clicks.
and i can confirm that this speedup mp3 handling alot, music player is ready in 2-5 seconds after selecting the tab (before it taks up to 30 sec. and more).
another good program to prevent freezing and hanging of music tab is mp3val (also free/donation ware). it check your mp3 files for errors in the filestructure itself, and fix them if possible.
the definiton of the class/speed of sd cards can be found at the sd association website. the problem is to know what speed the controller of your device can do!. its useless to have a class 6(mb/s) card when your controller in the hd2 only do 4mb/s speed. and as far as i know htc makes always a big secret of facts like that .
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Pretty much the title say it all...i want to know if the VR would support apps such as Youtube, or other movies app that we use on Note 4...or even play our own movies that are stored on our Micro SD CARD?
loaferkan said:
Pretty much the title say it all...i want to know if the VR would support apps such as Youtube, or other movies app that we use on Note 4...or even play our own movies that are stored on our Micro SD CARD?
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Based on the countless hours I have spent reading through every minute detail I could find about Gear VR, here is what we know that you will be able to do and not do with the unit out of the box:
CAN:
- Play back your own standard-format (MP4, etc) movie files within the immersive Oculus Cinema
- Download and play VR games from the proprietary game/app store; these have been curated specifically by Oculus
- Browse photos that have been pre-installed with the Gear VR, or your own photos. At the Oculus Connect conference, Oculus confirmed that it was possible to have 360-degree viewing of pictures taken from the Ricoh Theta camera (and thus, likely, other 360-degree user-generated images as well)
- Play Oculus-curated 3D movies, including stereoscopic 3D 360-degree live-action and animated experiences
- Use either 3.5mm wired headphones or a Bluetooth wireless headset to listen to audio. Otherwise, audio will be played through the device's external speakers.
CAN NOT (YET):
- Use apps on your phone that are not part of the Gear VR ecosystem (including texting, calling, etc)
- Watch your own 3D movie files that are encoded in side-by-side/over-under, etc. Preliminary reports show that there is no way to denote or recognize these files as such, meaning the Oculus Cinema will treat them as 2D movies and leave the original split video presentation intact.
- Access content that was purchased outside of the Gear VR ecosystem (Google Play movies, Vudu movies, etc, etc)
The Oculus team got low-level access to the actual hardware of the phone so they have manipulated it in ways that no other software maker can. That being said, it is only common sense that down the road there will be access to services like Netflix, whether that is a custom Gear VR experience or some way to seamlessly integrate the existing Netflix Android experience. The same will surely go for any number of other apps. For now, though, you will only be able to experience the stuff that Oculus has designed for you to experience.
Let me know if I've missed anything!
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Based on the countless hours I have spent reading through every minute detail I could find about Gear VR, here is what we know that you will be able to do and not do with the unit out of the box:
CAN:
- Play back your own standard-format (MP4, etc) movie files within the immersive Oculus Cinema
- Download and play VR games from the proprietary game/app store; these have been curated specifically by Oculus
- Browse photos that have been pre-installed with the Gear VR, or your own photos. At the Oculus Connect conference, Oculus confirmed that it was possible to have 360-degree viewing of pictures taken from the Ricoh Theta camera (and thus, likely, other 360-degree user-generated images as well)
- Play Oculus-curated 3D movies, including stereoscopic 3D 360-degree live-action and animated experiences
- Use either 3.5mm wired headphones or a Bluetooth wireless headset to listen to audio. Otherwise, audio will be played through the device's external speakers.
CAN NOT (YET):
- Use apps on your phone that are not part of the Gear VR ecosystem (including texting, calling, etc)
- Watch your own 3D movie files that are encoded in side-by-side/over-under, etc. Preliminary reports show that there is no way to denote or recognize these files as such, meaning the Oculus Cinema will treat them as 2D movies and leave the original split video presentation intact.
- Access content that was purchased outside of the Gear VR ecosystem (Google Play movies, Vudu movies, etc, etc)
The Oculus team got low-level access to the actual hardware of the phone so they have manipulated it in ways that no other software maker can. That being said, it is only common sense that down the road there will be access to services like Netflix, whether that is a custom Gear VR experience or some way to seamlessly integrate the existing Netflix Android experience. The same will surely go for any number of other apps. For now, though, you will only be able to experience the stuff that Oculus has designed for you to experience.
Let me know if I've missed anything!
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Note however that I would not recommend watching a movie this way. The field of view is larger than your field of vision. This means that you cannot see everything on screen at the same time and will mean movie watching is fatiguing. This is why alternatives like the Sony HMD units have an optimum "cinema" field of view angle. I am sure it will be initially impressive to watch like this, but I think watching a whole movie could be challenging.
Look at this. It seems like watching a movie is a great experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtRSOUbpDgM
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Note however that I would not recommend watching a movie this way. The field of view is larger than your field of vision. This means that you cannot see everything on screen at the same time and will mean movie watching is fatiguing. This is why alternatives like the Sony HMD units have an optimum "cinema" field of view angle. I am sure it will be initially impressive to watch like this, but I think watching a whole movie could be challenging.
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You are incorrect. With the Gear VR, you also get a "cinema" experience. You watch the video from in the middle of a virtual movie theater (or other custom environments), so there will be no fatigue and you will very much be able to see everything on screen at the same time.
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You are incorrect. With the Gear VR, you also get a "cinema" experience. You watch the video from in the middle of a virtual movie theater (or other custom environments), so there will be no fatigue and you will very much be able to see everything on screen at the same time.
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I think mdude04 make sense. I'm sure that the Gear VR makers wouldn't allow us to watch movies directly from our own apps, or a matter of fact youtube...but who going to stop these great Devs here who can has turn our phone the future phones...the things that Samsung or any other company come out with, we already have experienced it long before...lol
I'll try to invest in it, until I see the Devs has worked on custom rom or software for it.
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You are incorrect. With the Gear VR, you also get a "cinema" experience. You watch the video from in the middle of a virtual movie theater (or other custom environments), so there will be no fatigue and you will very much be able to see everything on screen at the same time.
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Before you start saying I am "incorrect", let's just get things a bit clearer here as your post wasn't very clear on the "how" this might be done. The main issue with the Oculus Rift which I have tried BTW for movie is its 110 degree field of view. The Samsung has a FOV of 96 degrees which is much too large for watching a movie. In comparison the Sony HMD-T3W which I also have, is 45 degrees. 45 degrees is considered the optimum movie viewing experience, sitting in the middle row of a large theatre screen. 96 degrees would be like sitting in the front row, which for most people is not a comfortable place to sit. So the only way that Samsung could reconcile this is to not use the whole resolution of the Note 4 display, which woudn't be great, as to my understanding each eye is not receiving a 1080 image to start with (as the 2560x1440 display is chopped in half, with half going to the left eye and half going to the right).
In discussions on various forums, there is a "general" opinion that the glasses you wear for playing virtual reality games or experiences needs a big FOV so you feel you are actually there, whereas movies need a smaller one. This typically means owning two pairs of this type of glasses, or compromising resolution so that the movie is not taking up the full screen area.
So could you explain more about how Samsung handles this?
I will be getting the Gear VR anyway, but for the hopefully stellar VR experiences.
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Before you start saying I am "incorrect", let's just get things a bit clearer here as your post wasn't very clear on the "how" this might be done. The main issue with the Oculus Rift which I have tried BTW for movie is its 110 degree field of view. The Samsung has a FOV of 96 degrees which is much too large for watching a movie. In comparison the Sony HMD-T3W which I also have, is 45 degrees. 45 degrees is considered the optimum movie viewing experience, sitting in the middle row of a large theatre screen. 96 degrees would be like sitting in the front row, which for most people is not a comfortable place to sit. So the only way that Samsung could reconcile this is to not use the whole resolution of the Note 4 display, which woudn't be great, as to my understanding each eye is not receiving a 1080 image to start with (as the 2560x1440 display is chopped in half, with half going to the left eye and half going to the right).
In discussions on various forums, there is a "general" opinion that the glasses you wear for playing virtual reality games or experiences needs a big FOV so you feel you are actually there, whereas movies need a smaller one. This typically means owning two pairs of this type of glasses, or compromising resolution so that the movie is not taking up the full screen area.
So could you explain more about how Samsung handles this?
I will be getting the Gear VR anyway, but for the hopefully stellar VR experiences.
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The Gear VR is going to ship with Oculus Cinema, which allows you to watch your own content in a virtual movie theater. It simulates that "Perfect Seat" experience of being in a movie theater. It effectively fills your field of vision, no more, no less, and (if you want) allows you to move your head around the theater and look around.
In terms of video quality, you're not going to lose anything. It only plays back 2D content, yes, but this allows the use of interlacing to maintain a full 1080i image. Essentially, the sum of the parts to make the whole.
If 3D playback was added in down the road, you would lose out on the quality more than likely, but it all depends on how it's implemented.
John Carmack (CTO of Oculus, and lead on the Gear VR project with Samsung) even mentioned that he's watched the entire Matrix trilogy on his, and he said it was incredible.
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The Gear VR is going to ship with Oculus Cinema, which allows you to watch your own content in a virtual movie theater. It simulates that "Perfect Seat" experience of being in a movie theater. It effectively fills your field of vision, no more, no less, and (if you want) allows you to move your head around the theater and look around.
In terms of video quality, you're not going to lose anything. It only plays back 2D content, yes, but this allows the use of interlacing to maintain a full 1080i image. Essentially, the sum of the parts to make the whole.
If 3D playback was added in down the road, you would lose out on the quality more than likely, but it all depends on how it's implemented.
John Carmack (CTO of Oculus, and lead on the Gear VR project with Samsung) even mentioned that he's watched the entire Matrix trilogy on his, and he said it was incredible.
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HI,On the contrarytThe way it is implemented in VR Headset,there is no way you would lose in quality in 3D playback since for 2D playbackyou already sending twice the same image for each eye hence the quality has already been lowered(You only see half of the display)
If there was a single lense instead of the 2 at the moment the whole screen would be entirely visible and you would have a 2D Screen much larger and with much better resolution...
And maybe in this case i believe screen door effect would be even less visible.
IF you have Side by Side (SBS or TTB) videos there is no reason the experience would be less than a 2D film providing Oculus Cinema is
able to natively manage that 3D SBS format.
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HI,On the contrarytThe way it is implemented in VR Headset,there is no way you would lose in quality in 3D playback since for 2D playbackyou already sending twice the same image for each eye hence the quality has already been lowered(You only see half of the display)
If there was a single lense instead of the 2 at the moment the whole screen would be entirely visible and you would have a 2D Screen much larger and with much better resolution...
And maybe in this case i believe screen door effect would be even less visible.
IF you have Side by Side (SBS or TTB) videos there is no reason the experience would be less than a 2D film providing Oculus Cinema is
able to natively manage that 3D SBS format.
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Yep. And in fact, looking through Oculus's newly released developer documentation, it is in fact possible to watch 3D videos in the Oculus Cinema from day one. It looks like you either need to follow some kind of naming convention when importing your SBS content into the micro SD card, or place it into a specially designated "3D" folder. That will give the Gear VR the information it needs to recognize that it is a 3D video, and it will be rendered on the virtual movie screen accordingly.
Just another awesome reason to be excited about Gear VR!
Wonder if the movies referred to were watched in 1080 or 2k resolution...
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In terms of video quality, you're not going to lose anything. It only plays back 2D content, yes, but this allows the use of interlacing to maintain a full 1080i image. Essentially, the sum of the parts to make the whole.
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I think John Carmack said the resolution of the video shown in the oculus cinema is 720p.
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So could you explain more about how Samsung handles this?
I will be getting the Gear VR anyway, but for the hopefully stellar VR experiences.
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i don't know if you have seen this video yet, it gives an idea how the moon theater in oculus cinema looks and there is also cirque du soleil video later on.
http://youtu.be/SVwNz4_NbRw?t=38s
I honestly can't wait to get the Gear VR. I in a lot of ways looking forward to it more than I did the Note 4 itself.
I can't wait to watch a movie on the frickin moon! I must say brief shot of the reflections hitting the ground on the moon look incredible.
is this different than oculus ?
or more or less the same ?
these 2 looks futuristic
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is this different than oculus ?
or more or less the same ?
these 2 looks futuristic
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The Gear VR has a better display than the Oculus Rift DK2, lower latency and no wires. The Dk2 has wires but is connected to a PC and therefore you have better looking graphics but you would also need a more powerful PC to use it wiithout judder and high FPS.
The DK2 has besides Headtracking also positional tracking, the Gear VR does not have positional tracking yet but most likely the next version of the Gear VR will. But when you buy additional STEM packs or STEM controllers from sixense, then you also already get positional tracking with the first version of the Gear VR.
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The Gear VR has a better display than the Oculus Rift DK2, lower latency and no wires. The Dk2 has wires but is connected to a PC and therefore you have better looking graphics but you would also need a more powerful PC to use it wiithout judder and high FPS.
The DK2 has besides Headtracking also positional tracking, the Gear VR does not have positional tracking yet but most likely the next version of the Gear VR will. But when you buy additional STEM packs or STEM controllers from sixense, then you also already get positional tracking with the first version of the Gear VR.
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mindblown......
too hard to understand hahaha
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mindblown......
too hard to understand hahaha
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Both devices can do headtracking that means, you can look around 360° in a virtual world.
Positional tracking what the Oculus Rift DK2 can do with help of a special camera mounted to the pc and the Gear VR with additional controllers/packs means that you can also lean to the left/right and front/back in the virtual world.
For the Gear VR you will need the Galaxy Note 4 to run it and for the DK2 you will need a beefy PC.
The Gear VR has a higher resolution display, lower latency means that you look around with less lag/judder but when everything is optimized on the PC then it should perform similarly and you have no wires, so you can use the Gear VR on your couch, in bed, on a plane, in a hotel and easier showcase it to family and friends without having to bring along your PC, camera and cables.
Hi everyone, new user here.
Just got a couple of 2015 fire's for myself and my 7 year old daughter and been playing around with the setup on mine first (as hers is a christmas present). I had installed rocket player so I could add music and videos to her profile (why the hell don't amazon allow this?!) and it was working well with having completely separate storage partitions essentially so I could have my own music and videos for the main profile but when I load the kids one my files are hidden so she only sees the music and videos that are safe for her.
So far so good except I've now added a 64gb micro sd card as the internal 8gb was disappearing fast - now I still have the two separate storage profiles but the SD card (where I actually want to store everything!) is common across both profiles so anything that's on there is visible to Rocket Player in both profiles (not so good...)
Am I missing something / doing something wrong or is this just a silly limitation of the operating system?
I don't see how it shouldn't be possible to have the same thing on the sd card, afterall it must just be a hidden folder system?
Any help appreciated, it's not a massive issue (as my fire will be for me exclusively eventually) but I was surprised this didn't just work as expected.
Thanks for reading (if you've got this far!), Matt
hi guys.... i bought note 5 32gb .... but this is horrible without microSD....
yes i know we can save our images and videos on wireless Hard drive and cloud storage....but what about applications and games... can i some how change location of my apps and games data; like we used to do in sd cards?
what about changing a destination of camera saving directory?:crying:
thanks a lot
Honestly, I would root the device, install a custom rom. Take out all bloat ware and save all pics and music to a cloud based storage. Apps and games would be saved to internal memory unless you don't mind carrying around the external sd card.