Help with LG G2 Battery Genuine/Fake - G2 Accessories

So this is a battery that I ordered through aliexpress. Seller claimed that he/she was selling me an original oem lg g2 battery.
Following are several pictures: the one one the left is the new one and the one on the right is my original battery.
Top view:
http://i.imgur.com/2Yt8cvDh.jpg
Side view (bottom of battery):
http://i.imgur.com/hkVpceYh.jpg
Side view (side of battery):
http://i.imgur.com/XtEH5AQh.jpg
Can anyone help me to see if the battery I received is a fake?
I can see that the newer battery is thinner and the step is also less pronounced. It also lacks the curvature at the bottom of the battery that can be seen on the original. Does this mean that it is fake?
Another reason why I think it is fake is also because it is unable to hold a charge well. It has no difference to my old battery which is already deteriorating, and can only manage 3h of SOT.
Thanks!

Sorry
It's fake.
Look for a few things.
Pronounced ridges on top
Flat bottom
Dark print
Writing on underside
Label on ribbon cable
Plastic up top, not just tape
Fake ones also tend not to last as long or charge fully.

Any recommendations of safe places to buy new legitimate batteries? I'm also looking to pick one up, but it seems like its impossible to find a trusted seller.

Just go to a service center
Even if it does cost more, it's more reliable and safer

The only LG service center that does phones is in texas... and they wouldn't allow me to pay to buy and install a battery when it was in for warranty repair. Any tips there?

it is clearly fake just by looking at the writings
however i bought one from taobao and surprisingly its holding a charge pretty well

Related

HTC Touch battery on deal extreme

can the one they are selling on dealextreme be used for our p6900's? i know that one is for p3450 or something.. but will the back cover fit? someone wrote there that the battery does work on our phones but the cover doesnt fit properly and he had to cut it to fit? anyone else on this board has tried this option yet or is everyone spending over $50 for battery?
I looked at the one on dealextreme along with about 20 other web sites. I finally decided on a 2400 mAh battery by mugen power. I paid 69 US for it and shipping was free at nakedcellphone.net
When it finally arrived I was absolutely impressed for the following reasons:
the capacity of the battery is more than twice as long as the OEM bat;
the back cover is thicker than the oem cover but does not have the hump;
although thicker, it actually fits in my hand more comfortably. I like the way the phone feels much better;
the chrome ring around the camera lens looks identical to the original, and as one would expect the diameter at the outside is larger to avoid an optic tunnel;
color matching is identical to the Sprint Vogue.
This phone rocks!
yea the only problem i had with the dealextreme one was the back cover.. the battery is amazing.. lasts me forever.. but the back cover is quite ugly and doesn't fit the vogue properly.. it leaves a lil gap at the bottom.. i think its designed for the GSM version .. but the battery itself is amazing.. just incase u wanna buy it just for the battery...
ETPhHm said:
I looked at the one on dealextreme along with about 20 other web sites. I finally decided on a 2400 mAh battery by mugen power. I paid 69 US for it and shipping was free at nakedcellphone.net
When it finally arrived I was absolutely impressed for the following reasons:
the capacity of the battery is more than twice as long as the OEM bat;
the back cover is thicker than the oem cover but does not have the hump;
although thicker, it actually fits in my hand more comfortably. I like the way the phone feels much better;
the chrome ring around the camera lens looks identical to the original, and as one would expect the diameter at the outside is larger to avoid an optic tunnel;
color matching is identical to the Sprint Vogue.
This phone rocks!
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Ext Battery and cradle compatable?
ETPhHm said:
I looked at the one on dealextreme along with about 20 other web sites. I finally decided on a 2400 mAh battery by mugen power. I paid 69 US for it and shipping was free at nakedcellphone.net
When it finally arrived I was absolutely impressed for the following reasons:
the capacity of the battery is more than twice as long as the OEM bat;
the back cover is thicker than the oem cover but does not have the hump;
although thicker, it actually fits in my hand more comfortably. I like the way the phone feels much better;
the chrome ring around the camera lens looks identical to the original, and as one would expect the diameter at the outside is larger to avoid an optic tunnel;
color matching is identical to the Sprint Vogue.
This phone rocks!
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I looked at naked cellphone on ebay and was interested in the cradle they offer and possibly 2 extended batteries (i'd put the OEM away for a last ditch backup) but does the extended batter fit in a cradle properly with the larger battery installed? Any success here?
Thanks
Maine Notary Net
mainenotarynet said:
I looked at naked cellphone on ebay and was interested in the cradle they offer and possibly 2 extended batteries (i'd put the OEM away for a last ditch backup) but does the extended batter fit in a cradle properly with the larger battery installed? Any success here?
Thanks
Maine Notary Net
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MNN -
Sorry for the delayed response. No, the extended battery will not fit into the majority of cradles out there. But when I googled close to 50 different web sites selling accessories for the vogue, I stumbled across 1 or 2 who were advertising that they had cradles that would fit the thicker phones with ext bats. Sorry I don't have a site to give you but you should be able to find it if you haven't already.
Update to the Mugen Power 2400 extended battery:
It has awesome battery life, like a week or more on standby. I can get hours and hours of of GPS, phone use, mp3, web, etc. at least 8 hours or more. I love the phone.
ETPhHm said:
MNN -
Sorry for the delayed response. No, the extended battery will not fit into the majority of cradles out there. But when I googled close to 50 different web sites selling accessories for the vogue, I stumbled across 1 or 2 who were advertising that they had cradles that would fit the thicker phones with ext bats. Sorry I don't have a site to give you but you should be able to find it if you haven't already.
Update to the Mugen Power 2400 extended battery:
It has awesome battery life, like a week or more on standby. I can get hours and hours of of GPS, phone use, mp3, web, etc. at least 8 hours or more. I love the phone.
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Does the battery work well now?
Does anyone know dinodirect.com?
This site is also selling HTC replacement batteries. To guarantee your phone life span, I would recommend you to use original battery.
SKU: A0324000KD
This replacement can be applied to 6900.
I ordered HTC Touch battery from dealextreme, but i never received my order so far.. So i reordered it from Chinabuye, an online store from China. I received ontime with free ship cost. Through paypal, payment i made easily and find its safe with them. When it comes to quality, its good one and brand sytlish. Rates are quite cheaper and has discount features.
Chinabuye !
I think it will better to use online Shop from China Chinabuye rather than dealextreme !
Chinabuye has more payment options and free shipping option ! which make buyer attractive to buy ! and also it has great quality products !
The battery and cover I just purchased today are these:
http://www.batteries4less.com/htc/v...v6900-vogue-oem-bte6900-extended-battery.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/BLACK-BACK-DOOR...662959?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45ebf8516f
Looks like a really good price on the battery and I'm crossing my fingers that they cover will fit - looks like it should.
Good luck on finding the battery. These Vogues are all coming up on end of life for the batteries it seems as they can only be charged so many times.

[Q] 3500mAh Battery Replacement [LG Optimus 2x]

Hi,
I'm looking to purchase a 3rd party battery replacement for my 2x. I have some concerns and questions.
1. Are they safe or rather, how safe are they? I do understand that by using them my warranty will be void, right?
2. The 3500mAh increases the size by a lot I am presuming, so is there something in between like a 2300mAh?
The batteries which I am looking at our located here and here.
Any suggestions?
yes me too, same question...
bump bump
hey Girls,
i have one of them.
the Battery is double of the original thickness,
by charging it dosnt heat but it need the double time for charging,
the lifttime with one charging feels about double then the orginal
and if you look at the production details there is witten "Stable and safety with circuit protection" and i think its truh
the battery cover fits OK but only on top its about 0.15mm to big.
i use them for wifi hotspot in park or by travel
the delivery from the ebay seller is about 1,5weeks from HongKong to germany
Bergo said:
hey Girls,
i have one of them.
the Battery is double of the original thickness,
by charging it dosnt heat but it need the double time for charging,
the lifttime with one charging feels about double then the orginal
and if you look at the production details there is witten "Stable and safety with circuit protection" and i think its truh
the battery cover fits OK but only on top its about 0.15mm to big.
i use them for wifi hotspot in park or by travel
the delivery from the ebay seller is about 1,5weeks from HongKong to germany
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Which brand are you using and from where did you purchase it?
I dont know its over ebay and i think there is only one manufactur of this battery
Someone have buy it?
i bought it from dealextreme.com for this battery
should be fine..
i think it should be fine, because i use the replacement battrey 1800mAH
I got one like this
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replac...h-back-case-for-lg-optimus-2x-p990-p993-91253
love it, don't need to watch out that I will run out of power , can easy go around for 2 days
one negative point , temp sensor is not working, never go higher than 25°c
even when the phone feels hot
Thanks for the information.

LG G4 Quick Circle Case with Wireless Receiver Inside!

Got the Quick Circle Case for my new LG G4 with wireless receiver integrated inside it. In just $13.99, the combination of both Quick Circle and Wireless Charging Receiver is the best thing I am experiencing right now. I saw the original one on T Mobile that was available at a huge cost, around $50. But still confused, you can observe with my words that why this one is cost effective and other one is so costly? I am satisfied with the quality of this cheaper one as it also have 12 months warranty. So where the difference exist? couldn't able to understand!
What you have to understand is that cases = margin. The reason they are so expensive @ TMO is because it's all profit. If the case only costs TMO $5 to stock, and they sell it for $50, they just made a $45 profit. This profit covers overhead... Store employees, lights, phone, internet, etc etc.
Sellers on Amazon don't have to cover these expenses, thus they can get by with lower margins. Also, the case from Amazon isn't an official LG case, and most likely was sourced through cheap labor (read China, although the LG case is probably Chinese as well). The case probably costs the retailer $2-3 each depending on purchased quantity.
That's kind of a 1000 foot overview of how economics of retail works, but I hope you get the point.
I pre-ordered one last month for $9.99 from Amazon. But returned it. Its don't have the LG G4 logo and its make the phone look cheap. Still preferred the leather back with Qi Charging sticker xdddddd
Sent from my LG G4 H815 USA 4G LTE TMO
Hmmm interesting. How is it different than Yootech product or is this just rebranding from same factory?
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I bought this Quick Circle case on ebay for about $14 with free shipping. It is Black, which is not a color available on the LG website. The packaging looked genuine LG, but it was all in Korean. It is very well made, lays flat when closed, and all apps work with the Quick Circle app. The qi wireless receiver is not molded into the back, but is an unobtrusive patch on the inside of the back cover. Wireless charging works very well. I charged my phone from 49% to 100% in just over 2 hours, which exceeded my expectations for wireless charging. Very happy with this result. If its not OEM, its dang close. Plus, the price is unbeatable!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/30167049908...49&var=600518006869&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
richs10 said:
I bought this Quick Circle case on ebay for about $14 with free shipping. It is Black, which is not a color available on the LG website. The packaging looked genuine LG, but it was all in Korean. It is very well made, lays flat when closed, and all apps work with the Quick Circle app. The qi wireless receiver is not molded into the back, but is an unobtrusive patch on the inside of the back cover. Wireless charging works very well. I charged my phone from 49% to 100% in just over 2 hours, which exceeded my expectations for wireless charging. Very happy with this result. If its not OEM, its dang close. Plus, the price is unbeatable!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/30167049908...49&var=600518006869&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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is your black a bit floppy per say? The QI charging ones don't come in black. The red and black ones should be made of a soft, grippy, rubbery plastic. If it matches the description what the guy has done is throw in a Qi sticker onto it (or is a good generic.)
Eagle1337 said:
is your black a bit floppy per say? The QI charging ones don't come in black. The red and black ones should be made of a soft, grippy, rubbery plastic. If it matches the description what the guy has done is throw in a Qi sticker onto it (or is a good generic.)
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No, I know what cases you are talking about. I've seen the ads for the black and red "rubberized" circle covers, but have never seen either in the wild. The case I bought is an exact duplicate of the OEM LG Circle case, just in black (and the Qi receiver is not molded into the plastic, as previously stated). I did not expect this case to be as well made and perform as well as it does for the price. I will also say that the back of the case is slightly less slick than a dark silver one I did see in person. Another plus in my opinion. But again, this is not the grippy, rubber case I think we have both seen in ads.
Also, everyone should note that in order to get the circle case which has the Qi wireless receiver in it, it must be the one that replaces the original back (and not the cover that just snaps over the existing back of the phone).
LG's quickcircle uses a sticker on t he inside of the back.
rogconnect said:
I pre-ordered one last month for $9.99 from Amazon. But returned it. Its don't have the LG G4 logo and its make the phone look cheap. Still preferred the leather back with Qi Charging sticker xdddddd
Sent from my LG G4 H815 USA 4G LTE TMO
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Thanks! But i think it is better to buy the one with receiver inside. If buy a case and receiver separately, it can make the phone more bulky!
Unheard said:
What you have to understand is that cases = margin. The reason they are so expensive @ TMO is because it's all profit. If the case only costs TMO $5 to stock, and they sell it for $50, they just made a $45 profit. This profit covers overhead... Store employees, lights, phone, internet, etc etc.
Sellers on Amazon don't have to cover these expenses, thus they can get by with lower margins. Also, the case from Amazon isn't an official LG case, and most likely was sourced through cheap labor (read China, although the LG case is probably Chinese as well). The case probably costs the retailer $2-3 each depending on purchased quantity.
That's kind of a 1000 foot overview of how economics of retail works, but I hope you get the point.
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Thanks for the response but i think LG is a Korean brand not Chinese!
sigma24 said:
Thanks for the response but i think LG is a Korean brand not Chinese!
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I wasn't saying the company is Chinese, I was saying that is most likely where the cases are made.
I got the original LG case for free with my phone, the catch being that it's pretty effing useless when my phone is the dual sim variant, which doesn't support wireless charging...
How do these work? Does it have a backplate AND a case? Or do you remove the original backplate and this case clips over it? Looking at the pictures it looks like a slim hard shell with a flap. I am just trying to connect the dots.
player911 said:
How do these work? Does it have a backplate AND a case? Or do you remove the original backplate and this case clips over it? Looking at the pictures it looks like a slim hard shell with a flap. I am just trying to connect the dots.
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Non-QI ones slip over, QI one's replace and have the flap as part of the back.
For these cases, can the front cover flip all the way around and be placed against the back of the case? (EDIT: Yes, watched some youtube videos.)
If so, does the wireless charging still work when the front cover is flipped around and resting on the back of the phone?
I have a Qi wireless charging setup in my car mount. The phone+case wouldn't fit if the front cover is flapping around, and I'd like to make sure the charging would still work through the front cover+back plate.
EDIT: Got a response from one of the reviewers on youtube--some chargers did fine with the cover between the back, others had more trouble. Probably has to do with the quality/robustness of the qi charging element.
Just as a follow-up, I purchased the ebay one mentioned earlier in this thread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301670499081?var=600518006871
The text on the packaging is all in Korean, so maybe it's real. Or a really good fake.
It's $12.31 only!
One small issue I had when I put it on was that the wireless Qi charging was unreliable. It'd work for a minute, then stop. Or not at all.
I thought it was probably the issue the small contact in the case back not making a good connection to the phone. So I gently lifted up just that section and stuck a small wedge of paper underneath. Looks like it is working reliably now.
Because it's relatively inexpensive, and I usually use a TPU case on my phones put into a holster, I may just buy another one, cut off the front cover, and slip a TPU case over it. This way it's a relatively inexpensive OEM wireless charging back.
EDIT: I take it back, wireless charging worked great for about a day and then it completely stopped working. I tried to elevate the connection a bit more but no change. Not sure where the defect is coming from.
Also, the back is a tad larger than the normal snap-in back, as it fits onto the outside corners, given a bit of corner protection, so I do not know if a TPU case slipped over this would fit completely.
Now I'm not sure if the case is defective, or the phone is defective?!! Annoyed.
player911 said:
How do these work? Does it have a backplate AND a case? Or do you remove the original backplate and this case clips over it? Looking at the pictures it looks like a slim hard shell with a flap. I am just trying to connect the dots.
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You need to remove the back case of LG G4 and than adjust this quick circle case according to the instruction given in User Manual!
waylo said:
Just as a follow-up, I purchased the ebay one mentioned earlier in this thread.
link
The text on the packaging is all in Korean, so maybe it's real. Or a really good fake.
It's $12.31 only!
One small issue I had when I put it on was that the wireless Qi charging was unreliable. It'd work for a minute, then stop. Or not at all.
I thought it was probably the issue the small contact in the case back not making a good connection to the phone. So I gently lifted up just that section and stuck a small wedge of paper underneath. Looks like it is working reliably now.
Because it's relatively inexpensive, and I usually use a TPU case on my phones put into a holster, I may just buy another one, cut off the front cover, and slip a TPU case over it. This way it's a relatively inexpensive OEM wireless charging back.
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Did your case come with the LG logo on it? I saw some pictures without the logo along with pictures where it had a logo, but was in the packaging. Please clarify.
Also, does it provide drop protection on the sides?
richs10 said:
I bought this Quick Circle case on ebay for about $14 with free shipping. It is Black, which is not a color available on the LG website. The packaging looked genuine LG, but it was all in Korean. It is very well made, lays flat when closed, and all apps work with the Quick Circle app. The qi wireless receiver is not molded into the back, but is an unobtrusive patch on the inside of the back cover. Wireless charging works very well. I charged my phone from 49% to 100% in just over 2 hours, which exceeded my expectations for wireless charging. Very happy with this result. If its not OEM, its dang close. Plus, the price is unbeatable!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/30167049908...49&var=600518006869&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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Had to order at that price. Does it charge well? Someone else here complained it didn't. I don't care, just don't want to waste money on the charger.
Also, does the cover stay closed?
VS986 (LG G4)
Has anyone has seen/bought a wireless charge cover for the G4 Dual?
The G4 single SIM back cover looks like this
View attachment 3429739
The red circle shows the contact point for the wireless charger receiver, and goes to the contact point of G4 Single below (in red circle)
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While, G4 Dual back side looks like this:
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If you look at the contact point of the wireless charger cover, the red circle doesn't have any correspondence contact point in the back side of G4 Dual
I've looked in ebay/ali's, all of them seems only for the single SIM G4. Couldn't find any for G4 Dual

Best Battery

What would be the best extended battery to get for the Droid 4 (minus the Mugen)? I have found the following on eBay and looking for what your experiences are with them or others. I want the biggest I can get from the OEM that still fits in the original casing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171884738678 (2850mah)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191617997652 (2600mah)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131646087397 (2100mah)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262314085580 (1925mah)
i had the gold one (first link) and it worked great but you should know that its not whatever capacity theyre advertising it as so i would say its better to just get the gold since its cheaper and it still gives about an hour more of screen time.
unfortunately all these batteries come without the adhesive that holds the battery in place meaning if you drop your phone the battery shakes and the flex cable snaps.
at least theyre not expensive right?
I think best battery is this mod - http://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399/
In droid 4 and photon q is the same battery.
hockeymikey said:
I want the biggest I can get from the OEM that still fits in the original casing.
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The biggest from the OEM is 1745mAh (or roundabouts that, don't quote me on it...); that is to say, the one that came with your phone.
The ones you've listed are almost certainly fakes. Most of the time they're actually either
A: OEM batteries - easy to tell because the cell itself is marked with the real capacity and model # - that have had the original sticker removed and a new sticker put on them (the gold ones are pretty well known for this)...
or
B: Unmarked, potentially hazardous Chinese-made mystery batteries. Key thing here: unmarked. You can bet good money that if some manufacturer had managed to get 50% more capacity out of a Li-poly battery in the same footprint, they would be plastering their name all over it, not letting some small-fry eBay seller peddle it at minimal price. No markings from a well-known manufacturer = big, glowing-neon-red flag.
Progress in battery technology being stagnant as it has been for a while now, if you want a bigger battery, your choices are to get a huge "official" battery (Mugen's ridiculously-priced monstrosity), or try to trim the plastic around the battery cavity and squeeze a slightly bigger battery from another phone in, as shown in the post above.
We don't have all that much extra room around the battery in our phone, though, so be careful. Note where the cover hooks on and don't cut past there.
Alternatively, get a good power bank and plug it into that every now and then. Xiaomi's 5000mAh offering is small (roughly the same size as our phone, in fact), light, and cheap at ~$13 (Gearbest). Even comes with a short cable, so you can plug'em together and toss'em in your backpack for a bit.

Can I change the battery myself

So my Nexus' battery has gotten deteriorated after so much usage. I used Accubattery to find out the rating and it showed 2500 mAh after a full charge, which I think is pretty bad. The problem is that there are is no Nexus market where I live. Even the local phone shops say they cant change it. So I was thinking about ordering the battery online and doing it myself. But sadly, the battery is internal and I have no experience whatsoever with electronics. Has anyone changed the battery themselves? What do you think I should do.
Pretty easy, if you buy a new one, don't buy a cheap replacement
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Td78lS_rfU
coremania said:
Pretty easy, if you buy a new one, don't buy a cheap replacement
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Td78lS_rfU
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Do you where i can find an original replacement online? Thanks (Dont know a lot about online ordering)
I guess eBay or Amazon, try to find a original one. May someone's here who already replaced one. I replaced it on my older phones, my nexus 6 battery is still good
I replaced mine a month ago. Not to difficult. The back cover is held on with double sided tape. Then 23 crazy small screws to remove. Thankfully they are all the same size. The 2 connectors to unclip from the main board and the mid frame hinges off from the top. The battery is glued onto the mid frame and the Qi charging coil is stuck on the battery. Carefully peel it off and put it on the new battery. Pay close attention to where you put it back as the connector end of the charging coil has to align with pads on the board. The replacement was bendable, and needed some tweaking to fit properly.
It took me about 45 minutes to complete.
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I replaced mine a month ago. Not to difficult. The back cover is held on with double sided tape. Then 23 crazy small screws to remove. Thankfully they are all the same size. The 2 connectors to unclip from the main board and the mid frame hinges off from the top. The battery is glued onto the mid frame and the Qi charging coil is stuck on the battery. Carefully peel it off and put it on the new battery. Pay close attention to where you put it back as the connector end of the charging coil has to align with pads on the board. The replacement was bendable, and needed some tweaking to fit properly.
It took me about 45 minutes to complete.
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Where did you purchase it from? I'm looking to replace mine too, but from the reviews I found many of them fail after a short period of time. Others lack reviews altogether. None of the Amazon listings look good to me and I don't know how legit the eBay ones are because it doesn't have reviews for specific products derived from specific sellers. The top two that seem the most legit to me are this eBay listing and Repairs Universe, from which I can't tell how legit it is.
Here's how mine held up today. I unplugged it at six this morning before I left for school and got home roughly an hour ago, so this is very close to not cutting it for me, especially on days where I'd have work in addition to school.
Got it on Amazon it was described as an OEM. Picked it out, screenshot to the GF, and it ended up under the Christmas tree.?
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What battery did you end up getting? I see Repairs Universe... and Amazon as good places, but I don't want a bum battery.
funkpod said:
What battery did you end up getting? I see Repairs Universe... and Amazon as good places, but I don't want a bum battery.
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See this thread
T3 not T4!
coremania said:
Pretty easy, if you buy a new one, don't buy a cheap replacement
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Td78lS_rfU
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I nearly stripped several screws using the larger Torx T4 driver recommended in this video instead of the T3 that fits these screws perfectly. I bought the replacement battery & T3 driver from eBay.
odontastic said:
I nearly stripped several screws using the larger Torx T4 driver recommended in this video instead of the T3 that fits these screws perfectly. I bought the replacement battery & T3 driver from eBay.
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Where were you when I was buying the wrong size torx driver!
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