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I apologize in advance for not researching this properly myself (in fact I'm usually doing stuff like this for other people), but I am simply overwhelmed by the plethora of information and unlimited posts of ROMs, OC kernels, and all that. I am no longer android retarded; That's for sure.
But I have a busy weekend here looking for an apartment and moving, and I just don't have the time (really) to sift through all this stuff! There's just too much! But in the meantime, the lag I am experiencing on the Hero is pissing me the **** off and I know it can be better, even "snappier" at 768.
I was hoping you guys would be able to give you opinion at the very least on this. I really wish you could just flash once and have everything set-up, but that would be too convenient. I would have to make sure the kernel doesn't break functionality, that the kernel actually works with the rom in the first place, flash the kernel, find a matching wifi module to match the damn kernel, flash the damn module... you get the picture.
So please guys, help me out here! I AM overwhelmed in every sense of the word, and I need your help.
1. Opinions on most stable ROM with most features.
2. Recs for an OC Kernel that will work with it!
3. The wifi module to go along with it.
4. Anything else I'm forgetting...
Thanks in advance and I apologize again for not doing it on my own. I just can't...lol.
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Word - subscribed. Just bought a Hero for my gf, trying to get it proper, but man, I used to do this with HTC WinMo phones, and this is the exact reason I went to iPhone platform - too much reading, maintenance, reflashing etc (read: TIME) to get the phone to work the way you want. So, I opted to just lose any choice or control over the matter and have a phone that works fine enough and has good app ecosystem
But, I want to get her phone at least fast and stable (most important), I think I'm throwing 2.1 with the .6 update, and will just downgrade to root in the future if we really need wifi tether.
If there is some good info in this thread on which ROM and which kernel with minimum hackish patches etc to make it all work, then I'll go to that! I'm hoping someone just finds a root exploit for .6 since it seems there are some good lag fixes in that update as well.
I'm hoping someone just finds a root exploit for .6 since it seems there are some good lag fixes in that update as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
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So is the method to root on 2.1 .5 version and then install this ROM over the top (which keeps your root)?
yep, you got it
Wow..
So I finally got some time to do even minimal research and came across these:
ZenHeroFX 2.0 ROM
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731951
Darchstar's Kernels
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
I wiped everything (including battery *whatever*), flashed the rom, flashed the 768MHZ kernel, flashed the % battery meter, and the 2.0 update for the ROM. I never expected it to boot the first time... BUT IT DID! Holy ****! Really?
Now, after setting frequency with SetCPU this thing flies! I cannot describe the difference. Holy ****-BALLS! Finally no lag at all, not even at the keyboard. And no overheating. I couldn't have asked for a more perfect flash!
DrunkenOstrich: This is the perfect setup for you! It worked the first try for me with no issues at all. Just follow the directions step-by-step and you will be good! Also, don't trip out on how long it takes to boot or if it's slow at first. Give it a few minutes to sync up and everything will be badass.
God I feel like such a noob after proofreading this post. lol.
wow... thanks
Ok... thank you so much for doing this. I am in the same boat as you as far as time to research everything goes. I had rooted my 1.5 hero last november and recently upgraded to 2.1. Just reverted to .5 so I could root but was totally lost as far as what ROM would keep me as close to stock as possible.
My goals were to find a ROM that allows me to 1)remove some bloatware, 2) overclock, 3) possibly wifi tether and 4) further improve battery life. I just didnt want to lose any functionality since I really love the hero. Only thing is since this upgrade, it's a slug. OP, Do you think using the ROM/Kernel pair you installed I'd be happy considering my goals?
there's one good way to find out. if you don't like it you can always do a nandroid.
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there's one good way to find out. if you don't like it you can always do a nandroid.
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agreed... going to root later on tonight and i'll try both... looking forward to no more lag and some fresh new changes to the UI
Thought I would get more of a performance boost... installed SetCPU and tweaked some settings and its a little better
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Hey guys I am hoping someone can help me here. I have my nook running the eclair 1.1 overclock. It is running like a champ and really speedy but every few hours it will reboot itself. Has anyone had a similar issue?
timmiedisc said:
Hey guys I am hoping someone can help me here. I have my nook running the eclair 1.1 overclock. It is running like a champ and really speedy but every few hours it will reboot itself. I have no idea what is causing this. Has anyone had a similar issue?
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Don't overclock it? Seriously, are you really asking "If I overclock my system, it's unstable, how do I fix it?"
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Don't overclock it? Seriously, are you really asking "If I overclock my system, it's unstable, how do I fix it?"
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lol. a simple but true solution.
Wow forums drive me crazy. Never once did I ask for help and I fully understand that this type of hack can cause instability. I was just looking for information to see if anyone had had similar problems after they overclocked their system. And if so if they had found any workarounds. This is how things like this become better is by people discussing what they have or have not done. Instead you imediately reply and talk to me like an idiot. I guess I do not understand if you are so much wisers and smarter than I then why would you bring it upon yourself to waste the time to repond to my thread?
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Wow forums drive me crazy. Never once did I ask for help and I fully understand that this type of hack can cause instability. I was just looking for information to see if anyone had had similar problems after they overclocked their system. And if so if they had found any workarounds. This is how things like this become better is by people discussing what they have or have not done. Instead you imediately reply and talk to me like an idiot. I guess I do not understand if you are so much wisers and smarter than I then why would you bring it upon yourself to waste the time to repond to my thread?
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I mean well he answered your question. Its most likely unstable, I just recommend bringing it down to a lower clock to see if it works there. And theres probably no "workaround" to make a device stable at an unstable clock. There is increasing the voltage but too much will degrade the chip over time and destroy battery life.
I understand the instability and your answer makes sense and I may try if neccessary. One thing that I did do this morning was restored the system and then reinstalled the overclock and it seems to be running smooth now. I am going to monitor throughout the day and see what happens.
Timmiedisc,
The first thing in your first sentence is a request for help, then the first sentence of your next post you state you never did ask for help?
Anyway, what was stated really is the simple fact. Overclocking is as much art as science due to variations in components used. If unstable your *best* bet is to revet to a stock kernel and see if you are then stable. You are always best off isolating one setting at a time when troubleshooting a system stability issue and the kernel is the easiest and biggest target.
If you regain stability, then try other kernels. Different OC kernels will have different settings for speed steppings and core voltages. Any of these may help/hurt stability for your specific Nook. Some kernels also work better with specific ROMs, so ask about what others have found work with the specific build you are using.
From my personal standpoint, OC'ng a tablet isn't about getting *maximum* performance like I would try for with a PC but rather getting improved performance to reduce/eliminate lag and give a noce, smooth experience. The minimum speed required for this is optimal to me as it helps extend battery life. But that is *my* criteria...
I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.
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I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.
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TBHIMO , i wouldn't overclock because it's fast enough even at 800Mhz (what i'm running at) . i like having a longer lasting phone .
BUT if you are not content with 1Ghz , then i think you should flash a kernel with Xan's Undervolting App compatible and overclock so you can undervolt at higher clock speeds .
not too sure what the temps would be when overclocked since i never OCd my phone . OCing decreases the battery life of the processor FYI .
Okay thanks for your opinion. Like you I also don't want to decrease my phones lifespan. But I have also read people saying if your phones temp stays normal that it does not harm your phone anyway at all. Looking to get a few more opinions.
I tried it and couldn't be patient enough to get it stable even at 1200MHz, so I left it as is. It's quite fast already, but needed to try it out to make sure I wasn't missing out. To be honest I was more interested in UVing the phone to increase my already good battery life on Serendipity.
Most if not all Captivates can do 1200Mhz at stock voltages. This will however raise your temps just a bit, hence the reason to UV.
If I were you just try it at 1200 and see where that gets you. If you can get that going, you can always write down your settings and push it a bit further. Here's the oft-circulated guide to OCing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10936691&postcount=1102
If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then be happy knowing your phone is plenty fast already
Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.
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Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.
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umm, you aren't running stock right? You have to be running a kernel that supports oc/uv
Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol
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Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol
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Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.
jamezz23 said:
Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.
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If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.
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If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.
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All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.
Well, my cappy is 2 weeks old, I'm running Serendipity and LOVING it. Do a lot of reading b4 doing any rom's. It's not that simple. I suggest titanium back up, from the market, as well as rom manager. Back up ur apps. I just flashed paragons kernel, search this site for it. It had 3 or 4 versions of it from stock to oc'd to 1400. I started with a 1280 oc and now running 1360? Approx. I am blazing fast and no problems at all. If you have a custom rom oc'ing shouldn't be an issue, just read, read, read. Good luck.
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All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.
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Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.
you dont need to overclock unless you do heavy processing, such as running 3d games and emulators. i only overclock when gaming and throw it back down to 1000mhz under normal conditions.
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Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.
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And aside from being a little complicated, CM7 isn't in it final release yet so it will be buggy, which if you are new to Android isn't a good ROM to start with. Check out the Android Development section. The top ROMs (based on visits to their Topics, but not in Order) are Serendipity, Cognition, Firefly, Phoenix, Darky's......there are more but that is off the top of my head.
Darkys is a little complicated for a beginner. Don't forget Continuum. Cezar just released v4.
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I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly
studacris said:
I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly
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+1 on trying cognition. If you like the stock look and feel it's a good place to start. I personally dont see much of a difference when I have my phone overclocked to 1500. Maybe thats just me though.
Im running serendipity 6.3 now and I think my phone is very fast. I had an inspire and an atrix and to be honest my captivate is almost if not as fast as they were.
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My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
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zanywood said:
My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
Google "xda captivate won't boot", gotta put some effort in man!
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Thanks for all the replies. My buddy has done some flashing before and we are gonna do this process together so I don't mess anything up. We are going with cognition 4.3, looks to be most stable and has the no lag fix and some other cool stuff. The videos that we will be following is for a older cognition, version 4 I believe, the process should still be the same right? Also the videos was published by mobiletechreviews, I believe that he is part of the xda community. So this is what I'm leaning on doing tomorrow when my buddy comes over, but if someone mentions something better we'd definitely like to hear about it. The person that said they prefer wirefly or I think that's what he called it, can you tell me why you like that better? Thanks for the help so far.
Can anyone recommend the best kernel for this build of Chroma? Is the lean kernel the best one to use? I will be switching over from Liquid Smooth due to the amount of screen casting problems and other little things to this rom to give it a try.
Thanks for any help!
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Can anyone recommend the best kernel for this build of Chroma? Is the lean kernel the best one to use? I will be switching over from Liquid Smooth due to the amount of screen casting problems and other little things to this rom to give it a try.
Thanks for any help!
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Why not try the one it ships with before begging for help to find a replacement?
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akellar said:
Why not try the one it ships with before begging for help to find a replacement?
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Well although you seem to have a very slick mouth, if you want to know the details of why I ask it is because the person I currently live with has just installed this rom. It comes with the Franco kernel 3.10 and there seem to be problems going on. Headphone jack doesn't seem to work as well as a few small other things. Battery life also being one of them... so I am asking what people think is the best kernel to be using for this rom, something that is obviously compatible and works well.
That is why I am "ASKING" for help, not "BEGGING" as you seem to put it. Didn't your mother ever tell you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all?
Try Zen kernel or hells-Core, both are fantastic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...3-10-zen1-dollar-drink-night-bfs-msm-t3062814
https://plus.google.com/communities/115269166678032690242
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
For what its worth, i like ElementalX
Franco
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Well although you seem to have a very slick mouth, if you want to know the details of why I ask it is because the person I currently live with has just installed this rom. It comes with the Franco kernel 3.10 and there seem to be problems going on. Headphone jack doesn't seem to work as well as a few small other things. Battery life also being one of them... so I am asking what people think is the best kernel to be using for this rom, something that is obviously compatible and works well.
That is why I am "ASKING" for help, not "BEGGING" as you seem to put it. Didn't your mother ever tell you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all?
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Im on latest chroma with the kernel it came with......i have no issues with nothing.........i just received a rma nexus 6 though
I won't get into the whole "best ROM" debate. I like CM, but saw that it might not be ready for prime time on this phone on VZW? Something about it causing bricks...
Anyway, I do actually like the stock Google experience, but was wondering if there are better kernels to run, that perhaps improve performance and battery life, with the stock ROM?
My bootloader is unlocked, but I have not rooted it yet, just decrypted the file system, that's it.
Any thoughts?
There are plenty of Kernels, just have a look in the development sections. Also, there are plenty of better roms than cm out there...
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There are plenty of Kernels, just have a look in the development sections. Also, there are plenty of better roms than cm out there...
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Without opening a can of worms... any recommendations?
What I look for is simplicity, elegance and beauty coupled with the best performance.
I don't like the ROMs that have every option under the sun... I don't care what font or gradient my notification bar is... I don't need PIE controls or a dozen other things that makes the ROM take forever to set up and makes it far too busy...
I like stock, but prettier, smoother and better, if that makes sense.
best anything doesn't exist. every person on XDA has a recommended kernel, and every person will name a different kernel. so there is no right answer for you. what you should do is try out a bunch of different kernels then stay with the one you enjoy. for me, it doesn't matter which kernel, since I like to set up my CPU my way. generally, kernel are mostly similar, except they all set up the CPU in differing ways. find the way that YOU enjoy.
Most kernels can be tweaked to get the same performance. It is what they are set to fresh off of a flash that may be different. However if you want some suggestions, I personally like hellscore (have to get off google+), zen, and recently elementalx.
no, its not me who wants suggestions.. i think you quoted the wrong person :silly:
Indeed I did. Nice catch
Yeah, I would like a suggestion for a ROM that:
1) Simple
2) Elegant
3) Prettier than stock
4) Not too busy
5) 100% functionality, no broken or missing features
6) Fast with solid battery life
battery life is up to you, 100%. battery life is determined by how you set up the device, which apps you install, how you personally use your device, and by the quality of your phone/data signal. everything else is not that important for battery. it does not matter which ROM you use, nor kernel, battery life is mostly up to you. ROMs and kernels do not decide your battery life. on any ROM or kernel, there will be someone with great battery life, and even more with so so or bad battery life.
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Yeah, I would like a suggestion for a ROM that:
1) Simple
2) Elegant
3) Prettier than stock
4) Not too busy
5) 100% functionality, no broken or missing features
6) Fast with solid battery life
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Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/orig-development
Look through the more active threads. Read the OP and see if you find the features listed that you require. Read the users comments to see real time results.
That is the best way to find what's best for YOU.
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Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/orig-development
Look through the more active threads. Read the OP and see if you find the features listed that you require. Read the users comments to see real time results.
That is the best way to find what's best for YOU.
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Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
SquireSCA said:
Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
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just pick any kernel at random, itll be the exact same as any stranger telling you which kernel they run.
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Yeah, but that is a whole process. I would rather take a suggestion from someone who has tried them... Yes, I am being lazy. LOL
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Well, in that case, I'm currently running Dirty Unicorns. Works pretty solid for my needs.
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just pick any kernel at random, itll be the exact same as any stranger telling you which kernel they run.
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No, I meant for a suggestion for a ROM. I gave a list of what I was looking for, and even in reading the various threads, it is hard to tell which one is closest to what I am looking for... I don't want to spend countless hours with trial and error.
Looking for something closer to stock, simple, elegant, prettier, smoother, better. I don't like ROM's that have so many customization options that you spend more time fiddling with it than you spend using it, you know?
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No, I meant for a suggestion for a ROM. I gave a list of what I was looking for, and even in reading the various threads, it is hard to tell which one is closest to what I am looking for... I don't want to spend countless hours with trial and error.
Looking for something closer to stock, simple, elegant, prettier, smoother, better. I don't like ROM's that have so many customization options that you spend more time fiddling with it than you spend using it, you know?
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i use terminus. because its built by a good friend, has everything i need, its not bloated, and everything always works as it should. oh, and layers works on it, so you can theme it as you wish.