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Guys, I know there's a thread dedicated to this in the General area, but I wanted to toss this out there in case one of our great Devs could come up with an easy fix. Sorry if I shouldn't be posting this here (and feel free to move it if it shouldn't be in the Dev forum), but I thought it was worthy.
The Nook Color is a wonderful device, but these auto-reboots with WiFi enabled are driving me nuts. I was wondering... since there is obviously a place where the screen timeout is held (i.e., if I set it to X min), shouldn't it be possible to alter WiFi connectivity according to that same time. For example, if I have my screen set to time out at X min of inactivity, can we set the WiFi to turn off at 'X min of inactivity (minus) 10s' ? This would prevent the rebooting, as WiFi would be off just before the screen is disabled.
I know this isn't a pure fix, but it would at least be a nice stop-gap until a true fix is found.
Please?
You might be able to use the Setting Profiles app to make a profile that automatically shuts off the wifi when the NC goes to sleep.
RoboRay said:
You might be able to use the Setting Profiles app to make a profile that automatically shuts off the wifi when the NC goes to sleep.
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The nook does this automatically. The problem is, it needs to happen before it goes to sleep - the WiFi being on when it goes to sleep is the issue.
I don't think the consensus is that the Wifi is causing issues. Have you tried the CPU governor fix?
You can also play with Wifi shutoff settings in Spare Parts.
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I don't think the consensus is that the Wifi is causing issues. Have you tried the CPU governor fix?
You can also play with Wifi shutoff settings in Spare Parts.
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Yeah, I've messed around with the CPU stuff in both setcpu and whatever the other app was. Neither completely fixed it. I've turned WiFi on/off and tested about 40 times now. No issues with WiFi off. Always an issue with it on.
Also checked in SpareParts and that didn't help either. Frustrating :-/
You set Wifi sleep to never?
jadambpharm said:
The nook does this automatically. The problem is, it needs to happen before it goes to sleep - the WiFi being on when it goes to sleep is the issue.
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Ok, but my point was that if Setting Profiles is still actively working a task by executing the profile change, the NC may not actually go to sleep until the WiFi has been disabled by SP.
Has this actually been tried, or is there just an assumption that it won't work? I haven't been following the other thread.
ThrowingKs said:
You set Wifi sleep to never?
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Yeah, still get auto-reboots!
RoboRay said:
Ok, but my point was that if Setting Profiles is still actively working a task by executing the profile change, the NC may not actually go to sleep until the WiFi has been disabled by SP.
Has this actually been tried, or is there just an assumption that it won't work? I haven't been following the other thread.
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Checking it out now. Thanks.
Edit: Ok. You may, seriously, be my favorite person. I didn't know about this app and really didn't think it would work (as other apps that do this sort of stuff with profiles haven't), but I haven't had a reboot issue in about 6 screen-offs (sounds insignificant, but it's night and day)! Thank you!
Lol, OK. Feel free to post how you configured Setting Profiles in the other thread so other people can test it.
I haven't messed with SP much. I just use it to mute Notifications on my phone between 10:00pm and 7:00 am.
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Lol, OK. Feel free to post how you configured Setting Profiles in the other thread so other people can test it.
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Doing so now and crediting you. Thanks!
Can you post the link to the other thread? Thanks!
kaiser_va said:
Can you post the link to the other thread? Thanks!
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here
looks like it's working for people so far!
When I had my iPhone I downloaded an application that simply turned off the 3g radio when the phone was asleep. It would switch to 2g for standby and when woken again the 3g would activate. This saved a ton of battery for me during standby. Is there such an app like this for Android? Ive done a little searching but can find nothing other then wifi sleep and 3g scheduling. I'm getting great battery life but would like to squeeze a little more out of my Captivate. Any help is appreciated!
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When I had my iPhone I downloaded an application that simply turned off the 3g radio when the phone was asleep. It would switch to 2g for standby and when woken again the 3g would activate. This saved a ton of battery for me during standby. Is there such an app like this for Android? Ive done a little searching but can find nothing other then wifi sleep and 3g scheduling. I'm getting great battery life but would like to squeeze a little more out of my Captivate. Any help is appreciated!
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Thats would be cool..... I'm sure it could save battery life.
EDIT: Have you tried Juice defender?
EDIT2: Now that I'm thinking about it..... I would like that as it would change not only data but vouce to 2g(GSM) so if I were to get a voice call while in 2g... it would more than likely continue that way once answered... and IMHO the voice quality on 3g is superior.
When I had the app on my iPhone there were several options, you could set a delay for the 3g radio to turn back on, leave it off completely,etc. When I woke the phone, it instantly (since thats the option I chose) kicked back into 3g from 2g. It was very nice. I had 2g sleep state to save battery but still had 3g for data and calls.
Im sure there is nothing out there like this for android but I figured I would at least check here first before I decided it was pointless to look, we do have a great community of people whom are willing to help, you know.
lstat said:
When I had the app on my iPhone there were several options, you could set a delay for the 3g radio to turn back on, leave it off completely,etc. When I woke the phone, it instantly (since thats the option I chose) kicked back into 3g from 2g. It was very nice. I had 2g sleep state to save battery but still had 3g for data and calls.
Im sure there is nothing out there like this for android but I figured I would at least check here first before I decided it was pointless to look, we do have a great community of people whom are willing to help, you know.
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Well... like I said.... juicedefender has that option.... you could try that out....
I was reading up about Juicedefender on some site earlier. It said it was only a scheduler to turn the 3g on and off at specific times. From the sounds of it theres a few apps out there that do the same thing, I guess ill have to download it and see for myself.
I think there's an app that does what you are looking for called superpower, try googling that or market search it. Hope it works out for you
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lstat said:
I was reading up about Juicedefender on some site earlier. It said it was only a scheduler to turn the 3g on and off at specific times. From the sounds of it theres a few apps out there that do the same thing, I guess ill have to download it and see for myself.
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Juice Defender switches off mobile data, not switches to Edge. It does save battery though.
sixstringsg said:
Juice Defender switches off mobile data, not switches to Edge. It does save battery though.
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Use 'Super Power'. Has lots of options and features.
diablo009 said:
Use 'Super Power'. Has lots of options and features.
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Thanks guys, this has what I was looking for. I looked over a thread for this app months ago but didnt do to much more with it. It works well but the 30 second delay to switch to 2g isnt to intriguing. Ill play with it more though, its just what I needed. It sucks when you go to shoot a quick text though and have to wait on the data to reactivate though
Wifi keeps turning off during sleep...?
.. and yes, I've turned 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' to always. Tried a couple of 'keep wifi on' type apps, no help. Any thoughts? thanks, jf
friedsonjm said:
Wifi keeps turning off during sleep...?
.. and yes, I've turned 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' to always. Tried a couple of 'keep wifi on' type apps, no help. Any thoughts? thanks, jf
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Mine does to, but I don't have it set to "always", since I kind of prefer it that way. I'll give it a shot to see what the results are. Do you notice any difference between the two settings, as far as how long it stays active and on?
phonic said:
Mine does to, but I don't have it set to "always", since I kind of prefer it that way. I'll give it a shot to see what the results are. Do you notice any difference between the two settings, as far as how long it stays active and on?
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Have not tried the 'when plugged in only,' will try it now..
EDIT: Nope, that was no better.. <sigh>
friedsonjm said:
Have not tried the 'when plugged in only,' will try it now..
EDIT: Nope, that was no better.. <sigh>
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31 Minutes on hold - so far - with Google device support...<sigh>
friedsonjm said:
31 Minutes on hold - so far - with Google device support...<sigh>
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FYI - "Always on" seems to be working fine for me. I turned my screen off about an hour ago, and just connected into the system via Cerberus. In the past, wifi would have shut off within a few minutes and I would get a connection timeout warning. So maybe your unit is having issues with it. I've also only lost MAYBE 1% in battery power, so I think I will leave mine in this state as opposed to disabling wifi on sleep.
I have this problem on some of my devices on 1 of my wife access points but not the other. I believe I could possibly tweak some settings on the access point as I don't believe it is the android device. I use an app called WIFI Fixer and that keeps things working.
friedsonjm said:
Wifi keeps turning off during sleep...?
.. and yes, I've turned 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' to always. Tried a couple of 'keep wifi on' type apps, no help. Any thoughts? thanks, jf
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Happening on multiple devices. Try advanced WiFi lock on the market. Its one of the first apk's I install and always works.
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SirWill said:
I have this problem on some of my devices on 1 of my wife access points but not the other. I believe I could possibly tweak some settings on the access point as I don't believe it is the android device. I use an app called WIFI Fixer and that keeps things working.
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Seemed to work for a while last night... but woke up this morning and it was off again <sigh>.
Does keeping wifi "always on" adversely affect your battery?
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Does keeping wifi "always on" adversely affect your battery?
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Yes. How much depends on how many apps you have set for auto-updates, I suppose. If you're running several games and social networking apps and they're set for auto-updates, you'll experience a battery drain from them checking for updates every 5 minutes. How much, I can't say. I still don't have my Nexus 7. But if your device drops off the WiFi signal, those apps will know that there is no data connection and not try to update until there is one.
Not to change the subject of the thread, but if I see one more <sigh> I'm going to snap.
Also, OP, why do you need WiFi to be always on? If you can't live without it try: http://bit.ly/MdurdU
As I mentioned, "always on" is working fine for me. Tested it over a period of a few hours. Even moved from one AP to another (ie: work to home), and it auto joined the new wlan.
Battery drain is very minimal in my case. Maybe 0.5-1% an hour, if that.
Yeah but then the apps can't update. IMHO, if you don't want constantly-updating apps, don't enable them to.. If they are checking as often as you think, I would find a different app which gives you what you want but doesn't do that sillyness..
I keep Wi-Fi on 24/7 on all my devices. GPS and BlueTooth too.
I *REFUSE* to let my device "run my life". I find a way to make my battery life happy, and still enjoy my devices. I disable all of the other senseless crap like Facebook or FriendStream, or bloatware-apps.. I don't EVER use an app like ATK or JuiceDefender, or if I do, I only use it instantly to kill an app and then I make it kill itself too. In my 3+ years experience with Android and 30+ devices, I've found that a LOT of apps will TRY to restart even if you kill them. Imagine ATK killing an app, it restarting, ATK auto-killing it again, it restarting again, ATK re-killing it AGAIN, loop()... get my point? Uninstall the problem app and/or find a similar one which doesn't treat your device like it's own playground..
miketoasty said:
Not to change the subject of the thread, but if I see one more <sigh> I'm going to snap.
Also, OP, why do you need WiFi to be always on? If you can't live without it try: http://bit.ly/MdurdU
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I want to use my table as a phone via VOIP when I travel, need to get incoming 'phone' calls.
That app is coming across in play as not compatible with the N7 ? <darn> <grin?>
I use my Nexus 7 as a speaker phone so had to set "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "Always". Easy fix.
mi7chy said:
I use my Nexus 7 as a speaker phone so had to set "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" to "Always". Easy fix.
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Yes... and as I said in the post that started this thread, on my N7, it still turns off.... easy, but no fix.
friedsonjm said:
Yes... and as I said in the post that started this thread, on my N7, it still turns off.... easy, but no fix.
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Now rooted and still trying... still keeps auto-turning-off !
This might be a defect in your units. I have gone many, many hours (12+) with my unit in standby mode without it losing wifi connection. It will also continue to sync with email, etc. during this time (and provide audio notifications).
I only lose .5-1%/hour, so I've left it "always on".
I'm having the same issue. On overnight sleep, the wifi is off when I turn it on. It won't reconnect until I toggle wifi on and off. Nothing I've tried so far has worked. Little worried its not as widespread of an issue as I thought it would be.
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I'm having the same issue. On overnight sleep, the wifi is off when I turn it on. It won't reconnect until I toggle wifi on and off. Nothing I've tried so far has worked. Little worried its not as widespread of an issue as I thought it would be.
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Since mine has worked flawlessly (stock rom) for very long periods of sleep with an active wi-fi connection, I would have to believe you have a defect in yours. Either that, or a problematic AP.
See subject line.
as you asked wifi is more powerfull
fethi2 said:
as you asked wifi is more powerfull
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I guess I was hoping for a little more detail than that.
More powerful how, precisely? Does it boost the signal strength by pushing more power into the phone's signal? Enable different networking standards? Up-clock the circuitry?
One thing it certainly seems to do is absolutely pulverise the battery; I'd like to know what the trade-off is.
Shasarak said:
One thing it certainly seems to do is absolutely pulverise the battery; I'd like to know what the trade-off is.
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Best WiFi performance, silly
Seriously, I switched it on and off. No difference. ~47Mb/s down, ~15Mb/s up.
I've never got more than 15Mb/s up no matter what settings I use.
in my opinion it is just for signal strength...
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Well, there is a similar feature for the Note II and what it does is allow you to hang onto poor wifi connections which will drain more battery so the option is disabled by default.. Maybe that's what it is on the HTC One too??
Anybody using this?
I'm having trouble with my push notifications over wifi (being delayed if the screen is off) and I think it has helped me receive them.
Does it drain much more battery?
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Anybody using this?
I'm having trouble with my push notifications over wifi (being delayed if the screen is off) and I think it has helped me receive them.
Does it drain much more battery?
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You probably have Sleep Mode turned on in the Power settings. If you use Power Saver, you might have ticked the Data connection box too.
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You probably have Sleep Mode turned on in the Power settings. If you use Power Saver, you might have ticked the Data connection box too.
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I've checked them both. Unfortunately not.
And also wifi is on Always On.
That's why I'm trying to find anything else.
3G works fine. I'm not sure if I have the same problem in other wifi networks. One I tried today seemed to work fine.
But I'm checking now whatever option I have.
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i tried a speed test and i have to say my wifi download speed did go up from 8.74Mbps to 18.51Mbps.
Give it a try!
PS: I'm impressed
Good luck!!! :good:
Everything I find is about people wanting to setup Tasker to make their phone deep sleep. I need mine to stay awake.
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505, on 5.1.1. CyanogenMod 12.1.
Issue: Using phone on work wifi to listen to music, wifi disconnects after 15 minutes (assuming due to the Android deep sleeping). Annoying that I have to reconnect so I don't use all my mobile data.....
Wanted solutions: A Tasker profile set up that when connected to work SSID, task will run to keep Android from deep sleep (battery will be hit hard but I can make it work), and phone will resume usual deep sleep once I leave work. I'm also open to hearing suggestions if you think deep sleep is NOT the cause.
Unwanted solutions: Apps like Stay Alive!, don't seem like they can be set to activate how and when I want. Prove me wrong though and I'll definitely be interested!
Other info: settings/wifi/advanced/keep WiFi on during sleep is set to ALWAYS. Doesn't seem to make a difference.
The only battery saver I have is Greenify, but I don't think that's causing the issue, yeah? My greenified apps are Messenger, Facebook, Google Play Music (not what I use for music, I use SoundCloud or the stock player), Adobe Acrobat, es file explorer, and Instagram.
My phone, obviously, is rooted. I also have Xposed.
Apparently Tasker used to have a display sleep setting, I don't have it in mine. And all I can do in Secure Settings from what I see, is the wifi sleep policy, which tells me that it's already set to never go to sleep...
just add your music app to not optimized…
loogielv said:
just add your music app to not optimized…
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??? That doesn't really answer my question. The wifi connection drops every 15 minutes. While not a huge ordeal with a stock music player, it IS a big deal with SoundCloud (and Pandora, as I occasionally use, too).
Also, as the topic I posted in.... I'd prefer Tasker profile suggestions on how to do what I need it to do. Unless you say another potential reason you think is the cause, and why.
I'm open to build.prop editing as well IF you know what works.
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Also, as the topic I posted in.... I'd prefer Tasker profile suggestions on how to do what I need it to do. Unless you say another potential reason you think is the cause, and why.
I'm open to build.prop editing as well IF you know what works.
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I'm in a similar situation as yourself with Tidal app - did you ever find a working solution?