Just "upgraded" to the LG V10 and here are my initial thoughts - LG G Flex

I have been comparing both devices side to side pretty much all day and again I proved to my self that as of now there is not a phone worth replacing my beloved G Flex.. Unfortunately this little experiment will cost me $50 restocking fee but oh well.
Here is what I got so far:
Screen - Flex is a clear winner here not only by size but the V10 doesnt even come close to the how vibrant and beautiful the Flex screen is. I compared both phones running Leo's Fortune game and the furry ball was positioned on the exact same spot and also a good quality movie which I synced. The difference is just enormous with the Flex providing deeper crisp colors and true black while the V10 looks washed out and almost like some smoke filter was applied. I asked several people at work and they picked the Flex right away and were shocked thats an older phone. Also due to its size the Flex displays larger gaming image in the above game and some things arent even visable on the V10.
Performance - The V10 is snappy no doubt but so is the Flex not far behind. When playing the above game though the V10 is choppy while the Flex is smooth as butter. I prefer the Flex.
Phone size and weight - the V10 is literally as big as the Flex but with a smaller screen and it feels heavier. Of course its better looking than the Flex somewhat but thats not enough for me to keep it.
Second screen - cool concept and I can see it being useful but when you play a game or watch a movie you get an annoying gray stripe one the side of the screen and its not the same size so OCD guys like me will go crazy looking at that thing. I wish they made it turn off completely when in landscape but no it stays on and since the blacks are really gray its pretty visable.
Battery - I wont even bother lol
Some other things I dont like - No settings for Color temperature or Screen mode. That sucks because the colors are very cold.
I dont see LED notification and thats a huge letdown.
I also wish that second screen had some more functions when the main screen is off rather than just show me the time and four icons I cant change.
Also the screen reflects badly coming from the curved Flex with which reflections are reduced to minimum.
The V10 is hard to grab from the table and I can't put it on its face like im used to with the Flex.
What I like - Removable battery, SD Card, Looks and Camera
I know I should have known most of that but I thought I give it a try. So far its a no go.
I am keeping it for 14 days to get my $50 worth and I will be comparing both phones in different scenarios so I you want to know something in particular just let me know and I will compare side by side for you.
It looks like some of will be rocking the Flex longer than we thought.

Well, the 4.4.2 update for the Flex caused me to search for a new device. Like you I chose the V10, primarily because of the durability claims. I mountain bike and it will be nice if I don't always have to stress over my phone when I take a fall. Unlike you, I have found that the second screen acts as a notification area when I play games. I will get texts streaming across it, as well as email and other notifications. Having been using them both, I can't really argue most of what you stated.
However, On the plus side which you haven't mentioned;
Root took me all of about 15 minutes on the V10. Unlocking the bootloader is as easy as booting to bootloader and following the on screen instructions. It took me longer to install adb and fastboot on my laptop.
Once you spend the time to configure the second screen, it is quite useful. I have an assortment of information up there, main screen on or off.
You never mentioned the fingerprint scanner unlock, which I am now addicted to
Or wireless charging. Yeah, it may cost a little extra, but once you are used to it, you feel deprived without it. And considering the V10 can be had for considerably less than any other halo device, even with the extra cost, you are getting away cheaper than anything else.
I loved my 959 and am currently looking at ways to root it( very badly, since I am a bit out of touch here), but still trying.
I am also extremely happy with the V10, even if the whole package is not *better* than the Flex.

Well there is no doubt in my mind that even now G Flex is pretty tough to beat.. I have had the flex for 1 year now and have
100 apps installed and it is still smooth, no lag whatsoever..the camera is amazing, resolves a lot of detail and takes beautiful pictures.. There are many many things to like and the phone has an enduring appeal.

Like I said, I loved the 959. I was just getting sick of never having signal. The 4.4.2 update caused me all kinds of headaches that I am now looking into since bricking it won't leave me stick anymore. ?

Daughain said:
Well, the 4.4.2 update for the Flex caused me to search for a new device. Like you I chose the V10, primarily because of the durability claims. I mountain bike and it will be nice if I don't always have to stress over my phone when I take a fall. Unlike you, I have found that the second screen acts as a notification area when I play games. I will get texts streaming across it, as well as email and other notifications. Having been using them both, I can't really argue most of what you stated.
However, On the plus side which you haven't mentioned;
Root took me all of about 15 minutes on the V10. Unlocking the bootloader is as easy as booting to bootloader and following the on screen instructions. It took me longer to install adb and fastboot on my laptop.
Once you spend the time to configure the second screen, it is quite useful. I have an assortment of information up there, main screen on or off.
You never mentioned the fingerprint scanner unlock, which I am now addicted to
Or wireless charging. Yeah, it may cost a little extra, but once you are used to it, you feel deprived without it. And considering the V10 can be had for considerably less than any other halo device, even with the extra cost, you are getting away cheaper than anything else.
I loved my 959 and am currently looking at ways to root it( very badly, since I am a bit out of touch here), but still trying.
I am also extremely happy with the V10, even if the whole package is not *better* than the Flex.
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I mountain bike too in fact I'm going right now with my Flex and my fat bike (dont judge lol).
I did not mention the fingerprint scanner as I had the phone for one day when I posted that. The thing is I dont see my self using it over the amazing knock to wake future we have. It means I have to pick up my phone and and unlock it every time so that future is useless to me.
The 32 bit DAC of the V10 is amazing I must admit but it does not work with any of my Bluetooth headphones or speakers and those are what I use now days unfortunately.
Also I noticed the second screen bleed last night... Not awful but still.
One of the weakest points of the Flex for me was the camera. I have seen people say here they really like it but I have not been able to see anything good about it. The V10 takes crazy good pictures tho.
Can you tell me how you customized the second screen and how you got the wireless charging? Any good ROM's yet?
Thanks!

vivebatu said:
Well there is no doubt in my mind that even now G Flex is pretty tough to beat.. I have had the flex for 1 year now and have
100 apps installed and it is still smooth, no lag whatsoever..the camera is amazing, resolves a lot of detail and takes beautiful pictures.. There are many many things to like and the phone has an enduring appeal.
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Our phones must have different cameras not to mention the Flex is useless for taking pictures at night.

bgsitizen said:
Our phones must have different cameras not to mention the Flex is useless for taking pictures at night.
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Haha
Well there are a couple of things here,
1) the screen Flex has is a bit underwhelming for viewing pictures. I have noticed the same pictures look much better when you transfer them to a PC or other higher resolution screen,
2) for night images, I have used the HDR mode of the stock camera and it has not let me down most of the times. If I compare pictures to say an iPhone 5s (brother has it) , they hold out pretty well and in fact are better most times
Or maybe I'm too much in love with the Flex to notice..as they say love is blind

@bgsitizen The second screen can be configured from the settings menu. Not the greatest yet, but something better than stock. And for wireless charging, well, that's extra. Need to buy a back and charger but at least that's all to it. Watch the dev threads for ROMs. I know there is one in beta right now.

well a v10 will replace my flex, probably picking up tonite. the pluses, removable battery and removable card. we have ruined 2 screens on the flex they wouldnt allow us to renew insurance on it. here is where the removable sd card shines, we had the charging port get damaged on the flex there was no way to get photos off it. Fortunately the charging board is removable it costs 9 dollars and was really easy to replace no weird t-something screws just 0 phillips. This was a big gamble since it didnt even power on, but once the board was on it worked, I pulled all photos off it. So I thought I'd replace the screen you can get screen w frame for around 100, all you have to do is put your battery, charging board and motherboard on it....fine everything was perfect for a few days then the display went wonky, it is unviewable. I have seen where the v10 was dropped under normal conditions and it survived very well, both times when the flex broke it was simply falling out of pocket.

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Thinking of buying G Flex - Need some opinions

Hi guys I'm thinking of buying LG G flex and looking for some opinions. Im an Xperia Z user and a very satisfied user. I didnt even think of changing my phone and its been with me for a year but the G flex caught my eyes and the main reason why i wanna buy it is because its different and curved. Here are some things that Im not so sure about so if you can help me with it using your experience then Id be grateful
1- Screen quality - now to be honest, im not a tech expert or someone that will look at the screen very closely to find pixels. Im a normal user, i like watching some videos and web browsing. the g flex has got a lot of criticism on the 720p display so what do you guys think in general? im coming from a 1080p display but i dont think ill have a lot of problems with the 720p display? some reviews i read were horendous that u cant even look at the screen its so bad. i know its not that bad. i just want to know if its a good screen that can show videos and pictures nicely. nothing extra extra sharp. also, im using hp envy x2 which is a tablet and laptop hybrid featuring a 720p display. i love it and dont have any problems against the screen. but i dont know whether 11 inch tablet screens are difff from phone screens and if tablet screens are even better at 720p?
2-screen ghosting. this is another thing ive heard a lot but havent heard anything about it from regular users. is screen ghosting a major issue and does it happen regularly? i plan on using it at 60% or + brightness because the battery is huge so will screen ghosting still be present? and is there a fix? is it a deal breaker?
3 Screen bumps- ive seen videos where users show bumps on their screens which lg admitted as well i think its because of flexing the screen. is bumps a regular issue for you guys? if i get a bump, it there a way to fix it or will it stay forever ?
4- Back- someone told me that the back of the device looks cheap and is uncomfortable?
5 Breaking - this might sound weird but did anyone break their device is the curved and flexible screen and design sensitive and will it break if it drops?
6 -Usable- i havent used a 6 inch phone before so this is a general question of whether the phone seems fine in usage? my xperia z is 5 inches but i dont consider it as big at all but do u guys feel that 6 inches is manageable? i had a blackberry playbook once and it was very big at 7 inches and NOT AT ALL something i couuld use as a phone. so how is the 6 inch phone? is it TOO big? or does it seem fine??
Thanks is advance
1. Screen is good but grainy, but for videos this is one of the best screens I have held, and the battery timings for watching videos is phenomenal. You can watch unto 20 hours of video on this phone not to mention overall battery timings as well.
2. Ghosting is definitely there and can be a problem at start but you get use to it slowly, I am use to it now though it was a bit annoying at start.
3. No bumps so far and I have flexed it quite often.
4. The back of this phone is the most premium thing about this phone, it's great to hold and though it looks slippery but it is quite wonderful to grip and doesn't slip.
5 No certain answer for breaking cus you can break anything you want but the construction of the phone is quite solid.
6. It's a big phone and can be a problem if you have small hands but as you have mentioned that 7 inches tablet is fine for you then this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Bottom line: the best phone if you are a phablet lover and you can't use anything else.
papa.khan123 said:
1. Screen is good but grainy, but for videos this is one of the best screens I have held, and the battery timings for watching videos is phenomenal. You can watch unto 20 hours of video on this phone not to mention overall battery timings as well.
2. Ghosting is definitely there and can be a problem at start but you get use to it slowly, I am use to it now though it was a bit annoying at start.
3. No bumps so far and I have flexed it quite often.
4. The back of this phone is the most premium thing about this phone, it's great to hold and though it looks slippery but it is quite wonderful to grip and doesn't slip.
5 No certain answer for breaking cus you can break anything you want but the construction of the phone is quite solid.
6. It's a big phone and can be a problem if you have small hands but as you have mentioned that 7 inches tablet is fine for you then this shouldn't be a problem at all.
Bottom line: the best phone if you are a phablet lover and you can't use anything else.
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is ghosting there even at high brightness? i think thats pretty bad if ghosting is always there
I've had my flex about a month and I haven't seen any burn in or ghosting. Which from my reading should only happen during the first few weeks of device use if at all. I came from a galaxy s4 and I'll tell ya the screen looks as good as the s4 99% of the time I have noticed the grainy look but only on a few pics. Doesn't always look grainy. I think its just certain colors and maybe pic quality that's my opinion.
As far as breaking. I've dropped mine a couple times and its fine. No cracks the back doesn't feel cheap at all. There's a video of a guy hyper extending the phone probably 15° and it didn't break the screen. The LCD I believe is flexible its the rest of the phone is not. And I think you will only see the bumps in the screen if you try flattening it out or hyper extending it like the guy in the video. Which the bumps appeared from internal parts poking the back of the LCD when bent.
Coming from a very speedy Galaxy S4 to this ....
I'm very pleased. Its faster smoother less lag screen just as good to me but bigger which is a good thing.
I love it. I would recommend and buy another.
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Yes but I hardly even notice the ghosting anymore. I did at first. Really only noticeable for me when using stock sms with dark background in sms and going from white to dark when opening messages.
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is ghosting there even at high brightness? i think thats pretty bad if ghosting is always there
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Just like so many others, I have not been bothered in any way with ghosting, graininess, or any of the other non sense you have been reading on the internet; all that crap comes from Samsung fan bois, so ignore it..
sounds like you are a lot like me; you don't micro stare at every little aspect of your cell phone, so you will absolutely LOVE this phone; there is a slight blue hue/graininess at times, but moving the brightness up a bit gets rid of it, if it bothers you; it doesn't bother me one bit!
bumps? never heard of it from ANY of the users here. Obviously some idiot abused his phone somehow, and caused something unusual to happen.
how the hell does the back of a device "look cheap"? sounds like more fanbois stupidity..
I've dropped it a couple of times, with no issues to it, so its not like a fragile china vase..
And, if you are ok with your xperia at 5 inches, you won't have any issues with this one...
I'm happy with mine so far. I've always used high end Samsung service's. Best performance I've ever had on a phone. Imo there is only one phone in this category that is better and it's. The note 3. But I just wanted to give this a try cause... well I played with it in the store and I really liked it. If somebody talks badly about this they are just super particular.
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This phone has a "cool factor" that no other phone out now can match....
Coming from a long line of Samsung devices that I've enjoyed very much I took a chance on the Flex about a month back because I like to watch a fair amount of video on my phone and thought it might prove superior for this purpose. A month on I'm not disappointed. I love the screen. I keep the brightness up and haven't been disappointed at all with the quality. I don't miss my Note 3's 1080P. I've had no issues with the phone from bending and such and enjoy the feel of the phone in the hand when texting and making calls. The Flex is very fast and the battery lasts forever. Honestly my only complaint and it is a minor one is that the rear of the phone picks up dust and lint easily, I assume due to the coating. This is not a big deal to me. Overall I would easily purchase this phone again.
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Coming from a long line of Samsung devices that I've enjoyed very much I took a chance on the Flex about a month back because I like to watch a fair amount of video on my phone and thought it might prove superior for this purpose. A month on I'm not disappointed. I love the screen. I keep the brightness up and haven't been disappointed at all with the quality. I don't miss my Note 3's 1080P. I've had no issues with the phone from bending and such and enjoy the feel of the phone in the hand when texting and making calls. The Flex is very fast and the battery lasts forever. Honestly my only complaint and it is a minor one is that the rear of the phone picks up dust and lint easily, I assume due to the coating. This is not a big deal to me. Overall I would easily purchase this phone again.
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did u have ghosting problems?
Someone has offered me 200 and a new galaxy mega 6.3 for my g flex what do you all think...should I make the switch ?
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yasirrfc said:
did u have ghosting problems?
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I haven't experienced any ghosting issues as yet.
Went from a Note 3 to the flex. Don't miss the Note at all. Really loving this phone, just wish development was more active, ..but after rooting and do a few things. I'm pretty happy with it as is. Great phone. Probably never go back to Samsung again. Their phones have gotten "common" and boring.
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juggamonkey said:
Someone has offered me 200 and a new galaxy mega 6.3 for my g flex what do you all think...should I make the switch ?
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Why are you asking us lol? If it was ne i would be asking myself why would i want a phone larger then a 6inch which is the biggest i go s for me heck no i wouldn't trade my flex for no mega, that phone is just over doing it i'm sorry but i don't understand the why over due it as a 6 inch is just the perfect size now you have to ask yourself why do you want the mega not ask us because majority might and will say they wouldn't do it but you have to understand that's us at the end if the day our opinion shouldn't matter if you are interested in the mega so there for if you played with one then you should know what you want to do.
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I owned the G Flex for a week before I traded it back in on a Note 3. There were just several things I didn't like about it (screen quality & ghosting issues being the driving factors) that caused me to return it. I do miss the Flex sometimes because I thought the curved screen was a great design, but I do not regret my decision to go with the Note 3 as it's easily the best device I've ever owned.
That said, if you can get past the graininess of the screen and the fact that it's not as sharp as the 1080p screens that are out now, it's a fantastic phone. The battery life is second to none (since the screen is only 720p, it drains the battery much slower than the higher res 1080p screen would), it's very smooth and the curved design fits well in your hand. It also has a huge 6" display. The hardware buttons on the back are also a nice touch. All in all, it was a great attempt by LG to try something a little different. Though I did come from a Note 2, I am by no means a Samsung fanboy. My favorite phone prior to this was my HTC Evo3D. I wanted really bad to love the Flex but in the end, I just didn't feel like the things I did like about it could make up for it's shortcomings and in such, I just couldn't commit to it as my daily driver for the next year.
yasirrfc said:
Hi guys I'm thinking of buying LG G flex and looking for some opinions. Im an Xperia Z user and a very satisfied user. I didnt even think of changing my phone and its been with me for a year but the G flex caught my eyes and the main reason why i wanna buy it is because its different and curved. Here are some things that Im not so sure about so if you can help me with it using your experience then Id be grateful
1- Screen quality - now to be honest, im not a tech expert or someone that will look at the screen very closely to find pixels. Im a normal user, i like watching some videos and web browsing. the g flex has got a lot of criticism on the 720p display so what do you guys think in general? im coming from a 1080p display but i dont think ill have a lot of problems with the 720p display? some reviews i read were horendous that u cant even look at the screen its so bad. i know its not that bad. i just want to know if its a good screen that can show videos and pictures nicely. nothing extra extra sharp. also, im using hp envy x2 which is a tablet and laptop hybrid featuring a 720p display. i love it and dont have any problems against the screen. but i dont know whether 11 inch tablet screens are difff from phone screens and if tablet screens are even better at 720p?
2-screen ghosting. this is another thing ive heard a lot but havent heard anything about it from regular users. is screen ghosting a major issue and does it happen regularly? i plan on using it at 60% or + brightness because the battery is huge so will screen ghosting still be present? and is there a fix? is it a deal breaker?
3 Screen bumps- ive seen videos where users show bumps on their screens which lg admitted as well i think its because of flexing the screen. is bumps a regular issue for you guys? if i get a bump, it there a way to fix it or will it stay forever ?
4- Back- someone told me that the back of the device looks cheap and is uncomfortable?
5 Breaking - this might sound weird but did anyone break their device is the curved and flexible screen and design sensitive and will it break if it drops?
6 -Usable- i havent used a 6 inch phone before so this is a general question of whether the phone seems fine in usage? my xperia z is 5 inches but i dont consider it as big at all but do u guys feel that 6 inches is manageable? i had a blackberry playbook once and it was very big at 7 inches and NOT AT ALL something i couuld use as a phone. so how is the 6 inch phone? is it TOO big? or does it seem fine??
Thanks is advance
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Being the phone junkie I am one of the things I like most about buying new phones is something different and that's why I got the Flex.
Screen - I look at the 720p Flex screen as a pro because that's why the battery life is so great. It's really nice not having to worry about charging your phone for 24 hrs even with heavy use. I had a G2 before my Flex and I don't miss the 1080 screen. I never watch reviews because most of them the people don't even use the phone for that long plus I like to see for myself. The good thing is you get 14 days.
Screen ghosting - I'm not sure if this is that but when I play QuizUp I see the image for a second or two after it goes away sometimes. It doesn't bother me. That's even when the brightness is maxed. I only turn down the brightness when in bed and the Flex battery makes it around 24 hrs on one charge with heavy use.
Screen Bumps - I'm pretty sure this only happens when you Flex the Flex. Just don't do that any you should be fine. I think it's another thing the LG haters like to talk about.
Back of the phone looks cheap - Ummm nothing looks cheap with the Flex. It's a solid phone. The phone is thin and the back is slippery plus the phone tends to pick up lint more then others. I put on a Otter Box 360 skin to keep the phone thin. Phone isn't slippery and less lint/ fingerprints.
Breaking - Ummm just take care of the phone and you'll be fine.
Size - The Flex is so thin it fits fine in my front jeans pocket but I don't wear skinny jeans. lol The phone doesn't feel big. IMO That's another thing that is subjective.
Here's my 2 cents, this phone is great the screen is a bit grainy, but with brightness turned up you won't notice it. Ghosting does happen but only when switching between apps and only for like 2 seconds then it's fine. My only complaint about this phone is the camera, it takes amazing pictures when out in the sun or in a room with ample lighting, but I went to a concert the other night and took pictures and I had to really play with the settings to get the pictures to be decent. For me I'm disappointed at that and hope that this issue will be addressed with kit Kat update, but seeing as I go to only a few concerts a year it's by no means a deal breaker. Like someone said earlier, you have 14 days to play with it. If it doesn't fit with what you want in a phone then just take it back, but I have a feeling that you won't because this phone is a beast!
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hmm i think i really like the g flex now. considering im not someone who will try to compare the phone with 1080p displays, i think it should be a good fit. I use my hp envy x2 tablet/laptop all the time and its also 720p so the sharpness doesn't bother me. For the grainy party, i think i can turn the brightness way up coz of the long battery life someone i know has Note 2 and ive had it in my hands a couple of times and i dont find it bulky or uncomfortable but the g flex is still at 6 inches. do u think if im comfortable with note 2, then g flex shouldn't also be a problem, in terms of handling it etc? as u guys mentioned, ghosting isnt a deal breaker for any of you and it happpens for 1 seconds only so i think i can live with it?
I have had mine for two weeks now.
1. Screen Quality - Its 720 display, if you are coming from an older phone, you won't notice a "lack" of 1080p. Further, the curved screen does work out better for viewing angles. The "grainyness" is not a problem. As noted in many reviews, if you hold the Note 3 and the Flex side by side, you will see a difference, but the quality is not necessarily better.
2. Ghosting not an issue for me. Is it there? Sometimes, is it a problem... no.
3. Screen bumps - As another poster stated, don't do bending tricks with your phone and you won't see these bumps. I haven't seen any yet.
4. Back - Really? Who with a 600 dollar phone doesn't put it immediately in a $50 dollar case? You can't even see the back. That being said, if you carry it bare, it really is very thin with a very well designed back material. It fits very well in your front pocket.
5. Breaking is only an issue if you have an issue breaking phones.
6. Usability is really dependent on the size of your hand. I have smaller hands, so I find myself using it two handed (I bought it for data rather than phone calls), and for phone calls I use bluetooth. The one time I held it to my head, it did feel odd, but not any more odd then a 4.7" phone. I really hate hot glass on my face. You really have to just try it out, I think people can get used to anything if they want to.
any more opinions? or experiences?

[Q] Should I get a Z3 Compact now?

Hello.
You see, I currently have an LG G2, because I felt it was the best phone I could get at the time. But recently, after many drops, the screen finally cracked and half the touch screen doesn’t work.
I guess many of you would call it “normal”, especially if I drop it that much but, well... the thing is I hate myself for buying such a big phone, as slim as it is. Seriously, I was blinded by ALL the other cool stuff, and forgot I got kinda small hands. Even after several drops I didn’t want to believe it, but when the screen cracked, at that moment, I knew it. That phone is awesome in all senses, but the size is definitely against me.
Now, I’ve been reading about the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact a lot, since it’s practically all I will ever need, but I’m curious...
Since It’ll be released in my country at the beginning of December, should I get it? I mean, I’ve also noticed these companies got a hell of a short release cycle now, and I notice these chips it comes with have been out for a while, so... should I wait for a revolutionary Z4 Compact, or should I get the Z3 Compact now and be done with it? Once I get a phone, I’m practically married for life with them. I even barely change their ROMs because usually I get much better battery life and stability with Stock. Even for my HTC Desire I only started flashing it after year and a half.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
PS: I already bought the repair kit for the LG G2, but I will end up giving the whole thing away to a cousin, that’s why I’m looking for a new option. I never bought protector because, well, the phone would lose its slim profile.
Yes, buy one.
you need a new phone, so buy the one that appeals most and is available now. Don't get sucked into the tech waiting game, because there will always be a new and better model just around the corner.
i have to agree, do not get into the tech waiting game, waiting for the next greatest phone. i will tell you after having this phone over a very short time, i;ll give you my thoughts...
- it's slippery as any phone in the history of phones
- the battery is a beast. the only reason i really left my Moto X (13) was because i need a full 16 hours of full on use without having to run back to a hotel to charge for 30 minutes. forget what any one says, take it from me, i use this phone for work and the battery is a beast. i would be at 14% on my Moto X by 8pm, it's now 11pm and im now at 63%. a beast.
- it feels rough and smooth at the same time. it definitely feels high end.
- camera quality and the video quality (even the 4k) is well... it's fine, just fine. it's definitely above and beyond any camera i have ever had on a phone. probably the best phone-camera you can get without going iPhone.
- sony pre-installed apps are not a problem and the 75% of them can be removed. i bought mine straight from sony so, no carrier logos anywhere and no carrier bloatware.
- i got mine in black. it always looks like it's doing something even when it's sitting still.
- i miss the 'always on' of the Moto but, not a big deal.
- speakers are decent, thought they'd be a bit louder, but call quality is exceptional. exceptional. (im on ATT in a big city on the east coast). i just yanked my nano-sim out of my Moto X and dropped it right in and instant LTE.
- i love it. and i've come from multiple HTCs (Desire, Sensation), the Galaxy Nexus, the Moto X. i've been waiting years to find a reason to get a Sony phone (i really want a Nokia Android). this model is everything i wanted.
- perfect size, did not want a 5"+ screen phone.
- again, the battery is a beast.
and the only real con so far... the Sony dialer just sucks. heh, it's really bad.
anotherdroid said:
and the only real con so far... the Sony dialer just sucks. heh, it's really bad.
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It really is terrible. Every time I have to make or receive a call I cringe when I see that clunky design :crying:
Alright, just ordered the White one. I was going to go Black, but in a lot of videos you could clearly see all nudges and fingerprints.
Offtopic question: isn’t there something to avoid fingerprints and such to appear all over a surface? I’m curious as if the anti-liquids sprays that are sold these days would repel them.
no. you'll get used to always having fingerprints. that's the beauty of this phone. it's too sexy to hold...
There are sprays, but didn't read anything positive about them.
I have not used it on a phone but it stops fingerprints on
Stainless Steel and is a coating for glass.
It's called Raindance sold in Auto Stores it comes in a
Non Aerosol Spray
BUT do not spray onto phone, spray a little onto a lint free paper towel then rub on let dry buff lightly.
It's made for auto windshields, will work.
But DON'T SPRAY IT ON THE PHONE.
and close the Ports.
Put it on like a Polish.
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Yeah , I have not bought the Z3 C yet either and I noticed that dialer screen is very stark and plain and.ugly...lol.
Can that be changed in Android L ?
Also on AT&T -(I would be on Metro /Tmo) are you getting text and MMS messages quickly ?
Alright, got me a White one.
Even with Wi-Fi enabled, it almost hits the two days mark. I’m trying now with just LTE all the time and Wi-Fi only for application updates and stuff like that.
Thanks everyone!
Glad you got one. I too came from an LG G2, though mine isn't broken. Well, it was stuck in a boot loop after I tried loading a custom ROM, so I got the Z3 Compact. Now that I've recovered the the G2, I'm going to sell it off.
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KaOSoFt said:
Alright, just ordered the White one. I was going to go Black, but in a lot of videos you could clearly see all nudges and fingerprints.
Offtopic question: isn’t there something to avoid fingerprints and such to appear all over a surface? I’m curious as if the anti-liquids sprays that are sold these days would repel them.
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I don't have a Z3 C .....yet
BUT I strongly suspect that the Windshield Repellant Hydrophobic coating sold at Auto Stores called
Raindance will work well.
Spray on Lint free paper towel just Damp.
Do not wet down phone with it, use tiny amount, then repeat.
Again do not put liquid on the Phone.
Put on rag lightly or paper towel, then onto glass, wipe on, let dry, then rub with clean rag or paper towel.
It repels water and fingerprints .

[Q] Would you guys recommend buying the LG G Flex?

Hi,
I'm looking for a new device, as my Note 1 looks like it's about to join the big charger in the sky.
I know the basics - large screen, good battery & processor, meh resolution etc. Judging form the specs and reviews I've read, it looks like a good fit for me.
What I'd like to know is if you'd recommend buying it for long term use (I'm not one to change phones every year), and if there are issues with the phone you think I should know about.
It's a great phablet. Fast, comfortable and bug free. Battery seems to last forerver. Feels solid yet slippery in the hand, and close to impossible to use one handed. You won't feel the difference made by the 720p resolution after a few hours. Color reproduction is great and the screen is sharp and bright.
Coming from the note 2, i see only 3 downsides In the flex.
1. The camera. Real slow to focus indoors, produces lots of noise in dark areas... Sometimes i cant determine where the focus point is. Perfect daylight and closeups though.
2. Lack of development. This phone is locked down tight, so if you love to flash like me, it's a disappointment.
3. No cases, no glass screen protectors. Almost. You can still find them around ebay and amazon, but not as much stuff a samsung would have.
On the bottom line this is a great mid-high range phone, and for the right price, and the right mind it will do.
rotem07773 said:
It's a great phablet. Fast, comfortable and bug free. Battery seems to last forerver. Feels solid yet slippery in the hand, and close to impossible to use one handed. You won't feel the difference made by the 720p resolution after a few hours. Color reproduction is great and the screen is sharp and bright.
Coming from the note 2, i see only 3 downsides In the flex.
1. The camera. Real slow to focus indoors, produces lots of noise in dark areas... Sometimes i cant determine where the focus point is. Perfect daylight and closeups though.
2. Lack of development. This phone is locked down tight, so if you love to flash like me, it's a disappointment.
3. No cases, no glass screen protectors. Almost. You can still find them around ebay and amazon, but not as much stuff a samsung would have.
On the bottom line this is a great mid-high range phone, and for the right price, and the right mind it will do.
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There are a lot of cases and screen protectors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref...ds="lg+g+flex"+-2+case&ie=UTF8&qid=1426858854
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...:2335752011,k:"lg+g+flex"+-2+screen+protector
grayson73 said:
There are a lot of cases and screen protectors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref...ds="lg+g+flex"+-2+case&ie=UTF8&qid=1426858854
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...:2335752011,k:"lg+g+flex"+-2+screen+protector
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Do you have a glass protector? (made of glass)
rotem07773 said:
Do you have a glass protector? (made of glass)
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I don't want one, but this one looks pretty good:
http://www.amazon.com/BodyGuardz-Pure-Glass-Screen-Protection/dp/B00IZL5S2G/
This one sold 1204 units:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Premium-Rea...-Screen-Protector-for-LG-G-FLEX-/301293819206
This one sold 89 units:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Premium-HD-...-Screen-Protector-for-LG-G-FLEX-/131417940013
rotem07773 said:
Coming from the note 2, i see only 3 downsides In the flex.
1. The camera. Real slow to focus indoors, produces lots of noise in dark areas... Sometimes i cant determine where the focus point is. Perfect daylight and closeups though.
2. Lack of development. This phone is locked down tight, so if you love to flash like me, it's a disappointment.
3. No cases, no glass screen protectors. Almost. You can still find them around ebay and amazon, but not as much stuff a samsung would have.
On the bottom line this is a great mid-high range phone, and for the right price, and the right mind it will do.
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Thanks!
I don't really care about the camera. The lack of development is a bummer. Might have been a deal breaker for me if it wasn't for Xposed.
Oh, one more thing - some users had an issue with ghosting or after images on the screen. Anyone had this problem? How widespread is it?
dude1001 said:
Thanks!
I don't really care about the camera. The lack of development is a bummer. Might have been a deal breaker for me if it wasn't for Xposed.
Oh, one more thing - some users had an issue with ghosting or after images on the screen. Anyone had this problem? How widespread is it?
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It really is a matter of luck... Some of the phones were bad from factory.. You have something like that, you'll get it replaced with your warrenty.
If you want to keep it long term and lack of updates (and also latest apps) will bug you then I suggest Nexus 6 over it. My dad has this phone and I have the nexus, dont get me wrong g flex is a nice phone but starting to fall back in technology and will likely not get updates for 2+ years

How to make sure that the screen is dead

I put my phone to charge before sleeping yesterday, when i woke up, i unlocked the screen and phone was charged fully,
Suddenly after 3 or 4 seconds my screen went black! but i still can hear touch sounds, my computer recognizes the phone storage and i can feel the vibration when i turn it on or off.
I've also tried wiping and flashing a stock ftf through flashtool, nothing.
So my guess is the screen is completely dead and i will be replacing it shortly but before
is there any way to make sure that the problem is with the touch panel only? so it's not related to the motherboard or any other component?
To make sure that screen is dead use hammer or other heavy and hard object.
You need to place it on the screen with good amount of speed to get give this object more power.
I would recommend dropping it in the middle of the screen so you could be sure that screen is dead.
Im not recommending using car or dropping it from high, because there is a chance that you would kill not only screen but also other components of the phone.
Akinaro said:
To make sure that screen is dead use hammer or other heavy and hard object.
You need to place it on the screen with good amount of speed to get give this object more power.
I would recommend dropping it in the middle of the screen so you could be sure that screen is dead.
Im not recommending using car or dropping it from high, because there is a chance that you would kill not only screen but also other components of the phone.
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That's not funny at all.
Well... when I saw this title I could not resist...
But to be on topic. If fresh flash dont help, there is no "software" way to check if screen is dead for sure.
XZ construction is tight as hell, and only way to fix screen is replace it in service center OR make it by yourself.
On aliexpress you can buy XZ screen for less than 25 euro
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...LCD-Screen-With-Touch-display/1894781909.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blac...Z-L36h-L36i-C6606-C6603-C6602/1901021035.html
Its not much, and if you played a bit with phones before its gonna take you less than 30min.
I ordered screens from ali few times, for my old Xperia Arc S and Neo V. no problem still work like new.
But because you need to remove back panel, I would recommend buying it too, its less than 7 euro for panel with NFC antena
You get all tools with it, and only what you need it hair dryer or wet towel that you put in microwave. Its necessary to unglue back panel.
PS. I know that it sound weird, but one time when I have Galaxy S and screen was dead... I throw it ""by accident"" on the ground... and its start working xD Im not saying that you should throw it... but you know... ""shake that baby""
Akinaro said:
Well... when I saw this title I could not resist...
But to be on topic. If fresh flash dont help, there is no "software" way to check if screen is dead for sure.
XZ construction is tight as hell, and only way to fix screen is replace it in service center OR make it by yourself.
On aliexpress you can buy XZ screen for less than 25 euro
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...LCD-Screen-With-Touch-display/1894781909.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blac...Z-L36h-L36i-C6606-C6603-C6602/1901021035.html
Its not much, and if you played a bit with phones before its gonna take you less than 30min.
I ordered screens from ali few times, for my old Xperia Arc S and Neo V. no problem still work like new.
But because you need to remove back panel, I would recommend buying it too, its less than 7 euro for panel with NFC antena
You get all tools with it, and only what you need it hair dryer or wet towel that you put in microwave. Its necessary to unglue back panel.
PS. I know that it sound weird, but one time when I have Galaxy S and screen was dead... I throw it ""by accident"" on the ground... and its start working xD Im not saying that you should throw it... but you know... ""shake that baby""
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I was already considering the "shake that baby method", it might be just a problem with some inner connection or cable or something.
That's why i was asking if there's is a method to make sure that the screen is completely dead, so i might not need to replace the whole panel.
And about the replacements, i read some reviews on similar products on amazon, most are complaining that they started to see blurry text, lower brightness, microphone not working and alot of other problems, you seem exprerienced with the procedure of repairing so what do you think?
Well, in terms of changing screens I bought screens only for Xperia Arc S and Neo V If we talk about smartphones :]
I speed almost whole day looking for it on eBay and Aliexpress. Of course before that I checked professional shops and local services, but its F hilarious that they want even 150% of phone price JUST FOR SCREEN....
I always sort list by number of orders, so I have chance to read more comments, and most of this time I spend reading them. If I found even single comment that say that quality is bad... I checked next one. And after few hours I had 2-3 screens to choose.
And in terms of quality... its hard to tell, most of problems are made by person who put that screen in phone, not screen it self. And because as I said build quality of new phones are tight as hell, 0.5mm difference and something is not working.
But overall quality of those screens that I had where good. I didnt had problem with brightness, ghosting(in moving object) or blurry text. I only had problem with less saturated colors. Difference is not huge, but if you spend with phone some time you see that its about 10-15% less saturated.
To be honest with buying something online that is more complex than brick and it contain electronic components its always hit and miss...
I could had luck with screen, someone could not have... Normally I trust online shops, but its better to spend whole day in front of PC than buying first product from the list...
In terms of actual replacement, instead of inventing wheel again, just check YT videos, watch few of them, and if they have link in description for screen, check them, sometimes they give link to screen that doesnt cost fortune and you know that you can get good quality product.
here are few of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfXaze8AS2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hXv-Fouio
Just remember to prepare everything, flat place for work, all tools, and few cups or bowls for parts... flat table or not, Its better to keep all screws in bowl :]
Akinaro said:
Well, in terms of changing screens I bought screens only for Xperia Arc S and Neo V If we talk about smartphones :]
I speed almost whole day looking for it on eBay and Aliexpress. Of course before that I checked professional shops and local services, but its F hilarious that they want even 150% of phone price JUST FOR SCREEN....
I always sort list by number of orders, so I have chance to read more comments, and most of this time I spend reading them. If I found even single comment that say that quality is bad... I checked next one. And after few hours I had 2-3 screens to choose.
And in terms of quality... its hard to tell, most of problems are made by person who put that screen in phone, not screen it self. And because as I said build quality of new phones are tight as hell, 0.5mm difference and something is not working.
But overall quality of those screens that I had where good. I didnt had problem with brightness, ghosting(in moving object) or blurry text. I only had problem with less saturated colors. Difference is not huge, but if you spend with phone some time you see that its about 10-15% less saturated.
To be honest with buying something online that is more complex than brick and it contain electronic components its always hit and miss...
I could had luck with screen, someone could not have... Normally I trust online shops, but its better to spend whole day in front of PC than buying first product from the list...
In terms of actual replacement, instead of inventing wheel again, just check YT videos, watch few of them, and if they have link in description for screen, check them, sometimes they give link to screen that doesnt cost fortune and you know that you can get good quality product.
here are few of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfXaze8AS2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hXv-Fouio
Just remember to prepare everything, flat place for work, all tools, and few cups or bowls for parts... flat table or not, Its better to keep all screws in bowl :]
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Thank you for your help
last thing
what do you think of this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Blac...ame-Assembly-Replacement-Part/1449119790.html
This look a bit average looking at comments, most of problems are with dead pixels.
Weird that for XZ screens there are less offers that I would though :/
I found this one that look promising:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...6601-LCD-display-touch-screen/1902384532.html
and if you want whole front panel
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...e-Assembly-Black-Replacement/32279043240.html
But as I said its hard to tell if you get screen without problems... I would say to check eBay or Amazon, but to be honest its all from the same place so what the difference?
Akinaro said:
This look a bit average looking at comments, most of problems are with dead pixels.
Weird that for XZ screens there are less offers that I would though :/
I found this one that look promising:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...6601-LCD-display-touch-screen/1902384532.html
and if you want whole front panel
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...e-Assembly-Black-Replacement/32279043240.html
But as I said its hard to tell if you get screen without problems... I would say to check eBay or Amazon, but to be honest its all from the same place so what the difference?
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Thanks man

All the Reviews - Share your thoughts

I can't see any other thread covering reviews on the Huawei P10 Plus at the moment.
My review will come soon but in the meantime my wife is using the phone and penned her thoughts along with some camera shots. She is not a tech person so she does get candid sometimes on her views
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/04/29/huawei-p10-plus-first-impressions-and-camera-samples/
Surprised nobody else has added any other reviews yet.
Anyway here's mine. I also included a comparison with the P10 to P10 Plus in terms of specs. Any questions just ask.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/05/0...iew-with-the-new-upgraded-leica-rear-cameras/
I will put my 2p worth in.
I came from an LG G4. I was an LG fan for a long time until they started being funny with who got what on the new phone's.
So. I came to the p10 plus. Has everything I'm looking for. Big battery. Massive onboard storage and a great camera.
So far I am very impressed. Battery life is still settling down so can't really comment on it at the no but it seems to be lasting a day with about 4hrs sot and that's most of the day on a poor 4g signal.
I expect it to improve once I have a play with APS and settings etc.
The phone is quick. No lags at all. Plays all the games I can throw at it with ease.
The camera is lovely. Really really nice. It proper impressed me. Even though I managed to smash the glass covering the lenses. (I walked into the corner of a steel table at work) I am still getting great images.
It is a tad bigger than the G4. That being said; it is so thin it is very easy to use one handed.
The UI I really like. I find it straight forward to use and actually quite pleasing on the eyes.
I have opted to use the finger print scanner as my nav keys.
Took 30 mins to get used to it and I love it.
Finger print scanner is as fast as a fast thing on a fast day out.
Binned the head phones that came in the box as I have my own preferred set. Music is crisp and clear and big. Perfect. In fact the only way to get music on Poweramp to sound better would be with Viper4android.
Anyway. That's just some ramblings from an LG convert.
Need to now find a replacement rear glass lol.
bagedntaged said:
I will put my 2p worth in.
I came from an LG G4. I was an LG fan for a long time until they started being funny with who got what on the new phone's.
So. I came to the p10 plus. Has everything I'm looking for. Big battery. Massive onboard storage and a great camera.
So far I am very impressed. Battery life is still settling down so can't really comment on it at the no but it seems to be lasting a day with about 4hrs sot and that's most of the day on a poor 4g signal.
I expect it to improve once I have a play with APS and settings etc.
The phone is quick. No lags at all. Plays all the games I can throw at it with ease.
The camera is lovely. Really really nice. It proper impressed me. Even though I managed to smash the glass covering the lenses. (I walked into the corner of a steel table at work) I am still getting great images.
It is a tad bigger than the G4. That being said; it is so thin it is very easy to use one handed.
The UI I really like. I find it straight forward to use and actually quite pleasing on the eyes.
I have opted to use the finger print scanner as my nav keys.
Took 30 mins to get used to it and I love it.
Finger print scanner is as fast as a fast thing on a fast day out.
Binned the head phones that came in the box as I have my own preferred set. Music is crisp and clear and big. Perfect. In fact the only way to get music on Poweramp to sound better would be with Viper4android.
Anyway. That's just some ramblings from an LG convert.
Need to now find a replacement rear glass lol.
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That's a great summary. Thanks for sharing.
My thoughts after a little over 1 week of full use:
Battery
I've been happy with it overall in the very short term - with very limited SOT usage, I've usually got ~70% battery life when I'm hope at 6-7pm at night after taking off charge at 7am. I have read degradation of Huawei batteries is more 'evident' than other brands and the battery length may drop fairly quick, but I'll wait until that happens. My only concern is the battery drains a little too easy when is basic sleep/standby mode if there's pending icon notifications/LED flashes.
Size/Screen/Resolution:
I've moved over from the LG v20 with a 5.5" TFT 2K display, which is the same for this device. The body design is much smaller compared to the LG v20 despite the same screen(5.5"), so its much more comfortable in hand. Using the Huawei supplied clear case makes the phone, in my opinion, fairly slippery with its rounded edges. The diamond cut finish is very nice (I've got the champagne gold version), but blemishes, if you have oily fingers 9etc) will still show up outside of fingerprints and smudges that are otherwise hidden. Just throw on a clear RINGKE FUSION case and be done with it! I can't really see any difference in the LG and Huawei 2K displays; would've preferred AMOLED, but I believe the icons/colours/resolution as just as crisp, so no real complaints.
LED notification light:
This was a highly attractive feature to come back to for Huawei, but the LED light is FAR TOO SMALL. Even behind a front-facing white panel, some colours don't come through properly when using a 3rd party app like lightflow. The 'always on' is not 'always on' rather is a very VERY slow flashing over a period of time. There is DEFINATELY a "happy medium" they could reach between their Mate 9/P10 Plus LED and the Blackberry Bold LED's in my opinion...a very useful feature.
Infrared:
Another great feature to have in a smartphone as a universal remote replacement. It works flawlessly. Even if you can't find your device in the list of pre-programmed devices, you can teach the IR as it has an inbuilt sensor of its own to learn and program specific keystrokes from your other IR remotes.
Camera:
First I'll say this: I've had two dozen smart phones in the last 7 years and say that each branded camera iteration across all brands ALWAYS has a big 'pro' with 1 or more 'cons'. Iphone 6/7's take some of the better still images with accurate colour reproduction and crisp details; despite its low MP rating and aperture. LG probably has the best video-rendering ability when taking FHD video (or at least from the LG G4 and v20 when I tested) and most other branded cameras EITHER excel in low light but suffer around clarity/crispness in details regular daylight photography, or vice versa - which is where the P10+ sits. The camera is nice in well-lit areas, but really struggled with 'grain' and excessive ISO in low light. I've yet to test much of the video to provide a review on that. Just accept every phone - MP/aperture aside, is going to have something great about it, but also something it does very poorly compared to the competition.
EMUI 5.1:
I'm new to Huawei with both the Mate 9 and P10 Plus. is there a difference between 5.0 and 5.1? I don't really notice it. Didn't take much 'getting used to' coming from a mostly android background. I did have to change the settings to APP DRAWER as a preference as well as removing the fingerprint sensor as a preference for swipe/back/home etc, as that's just foolish. I prefer the softkeys, but that's just me.
Loudspeaker and Call Qaulity
The loudspeaker is too quiet...and even at low volume settings, there's too much noise or speaker vibration, probably one of the worst loudspeakers I've used in recent memory. However, the audio split over 2 speakers actually reproduces quite well and the 3.5mm audio jack with basic headphones works as expected, nothing special. Call quality is also not worth much of a mention. It's very clear, I don't really notice anything negative about it...nor should I, this is supposed to be a high-end flagship
Internal storage speeds, Benchmarks and 6GM RAM
Sorry guys I'm not much of a benchmarker myself. So...if it takes an extra 2.1 seconds (or whatever) for the same data file to copy over USB or transfer between SD to internal storage vs a competitor phone etc, I really don't care. Yes, it sucked to learn Huawei cut corners on the internal storage with EXTREMELY poor quality control measures, but I've not had a problem with my phone and copying data to/from the device. I've also not really much of a speed/reactional/buffer difference when playing games from a 6GB RAM phone to a 4GB RAM phone using the same chipset. You'd have to be a very VERY high-end demanding user with 20-30 apps open simultaneously to see the real benefit of have 6GB memory, as I certainly can't see it.
Happy to take any questions or do some basic tests. I'm currently using the B126 latest software updated with an unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed. I have NOT rooted the phone yet, as there's NO point until I can get full system access.
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