Hello,
So I just ordered a Nexus 5X. I am trying to figure out what the deal is with the issues with some USB C cable and what is the best option for aftermarket chargers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems USB A to USB C cables are 2.4A max. USB C to USB C are 3A max. So the way to obtain the fastest charging possible is to have a 3A wall plug and a 3A capable USB C to USB C cable?
I am content with the OEM charger for the house, so I am mainly trying to figure out what to get for a charger for my car. Should I be looking for a 3 Amp car plug and a 3 Amp cable? Or am I looking for 2.4A / 2.4A? I am totally confused.
Also, I read somewhere that the Nexus 5X has a chip on the logic board that makes it fully compatible for Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0, and that it may be available later on through an update. Anyone heard this? If so I may as well get Quickcharge 3.0 products.
If someone could please explain this whole USB C ordeal I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You!
EDIT:
I figured it all out. I ended up order the following:
Cable Matters 3.3ft USB to USB C Cable ( This will be my data / sync cable)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S8GU2OC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
Cable Matters 3.3ft USB C to USB C Cable ( This will be for my car)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKL4TY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
Vinsic 3A USB C Car Charger (This has a USB C and a USB Port)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
The Cable Matters USB to USB C has been confirmed compliant by Benson Leung so I wont have to worry about it frying any USB ports on my computer. lol
Rektifying said:
Hello,
So I just ordered a Nexus 5X. I am trying to figure out what the deal is with the issues with some USB C cable and what is the best option for aftermarket chargers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems USB A to USB C cables are 2.4A max. USB C to USB C are 3A max. So the way to obtain the fastest charging possible is to have a 3A wall plug and a 3A capable USB C to USB C cable?
I am content with the OEM charger for the house, so I am mainly trying to figure out what to get for a charger for my car. Should I be looking for a 3 Amp car plug and a 3 Amp cable? Or am I looking for 2.4A / 2.4A? I am totally confused.
Also, I read somewhere that the Nexus 5X has a chip on the logic board that makes it fully compatible for Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0, and that it may be available later on through an update. Anyone heard this? If so I may as well get Quickcharge 3.0 products.
If someone could please explain this whole USB C ordeal I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You!
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Sounds like you got the info just right. What's important about A to C is the resistor used and that it meets specifications. If not it'll be asking a charger for 3.0A when it can't give it possibly leading to burning out the charger. For me, I got the Elegiant A to C cables (which are compliant) for older ports since C isn't as readily available. Good for old car chargers, old wall chargers, hotel rooms, shopping center charging stations, etc. C to C is necessary for full rapid charging so I'm waiting for a car charger and compact battery bank that support 3.0A type C.
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Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
Here is a good list of compliant cables, I wish I saw this before I ordered my cable.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
EeZeEpEe said:
Sounds like you got the info just right. What's important about A to C is the resistor used and that it meets specifications. If not it'll be asking a charger for 3.0A when it can't give it possibly leading to bring out the charger. For me, I got the Elegiant A to C cables (which are compliant) for older ports since C isn't as readily available. Good for old car chargers, old wall chargers, hotel rooms, shopping center charging stations, etc. C to C is necessary for full rapid charging so I'm waiting for a car charger and compact battery bank that support 3.0A type C.
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Thank you for clarifying. I thought I had it right I just wanted to make sure.
Also, I came across a 3A car charger. I already ordered it. There were a couple reviews that stated it wouldn't run at 3A, but there were also reviews stating that it does run on 3A IF you use the USB C port only. (It has a USB and a USB C Port) So I am assuming the people who had issues were probably using the USB side.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?redirect=true&ref_=ya_st_dp_summary
gleggie said:
Here is a good list of compliant cables, I wish I saw this before I ordered my cable.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
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Thank you for the link! Everything I just ordered is on that list as approved! lol
minnemike said:
Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
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I'm trying to hunt down the article where I read it. I will update when I find it. (with a new post)
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Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
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I can't find the article I read that stated QC 3.0 (I think they were wrong anyways), but I did hop over to the iFixit Nexus 5X tear down page. I remembered that they always list the IC's on logic boards for their tear downs. Sure enough, the Nexus 5X has the Qualcomm SMB1358 Quick Charge 2.0 IC.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Related
Wanted to do a shoutout to TechMatte Inc for giving me a free sample unit of these micro usb to usb C adapters. I got them in exchange for my unbiased review. So:
First: This is a two pack for a pretty reasonable price. Right now, it's $5 a piece. Not bad.
Second: Quality: These are plastic, but very functional. I have a multitude of micro USB cables from previous phones, and it's nice to be able to have backups laying around, instead of having to buy a bunch of USB C cables now. I leave the adapter plugged into the micro usb cable, and plug the adapter into the phone. Pretty handy at making the old cables still work.
Caveats: Size. This is a plus and a minus-- they would be very easy to lose. Also, the plastic feel. These work very well, but I can also see them starting to fall apart with heavy daily use. Not sure, but it looks like they wouldn't survive abuse.
Thanks, Techmatte, for the sample, and I would recommend these adapters!
Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
compulov said:
Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
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I bought this four pack a while ago, and just use them around the house/ office. It reports Charging when plugged in.
Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
aiwapro said:
Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
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Yes.
Hey I just got these today! They are small and go charge at a decently fast pace even though it only says "charging". I like that it comes in packs of 2 so I can have one in my car and one at home.
It's only been a day, but so far I approve of these.
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
rickyray9 said:
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
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Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
buru898 said:
Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
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I just tested using 3 configurations:
Stock LG charger and Cable 5V3A:
"Charging Rapidly" at +2621mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to C cable:
"Charging Rapidly" at +1285mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to Micro USB cable with USB C adapter:
"Charging" at +1225mA/h
Any thoughts on what the software engineer from Google has to say about the adapter and what potential impact it may have on our devices?
I'm a Software Engineer on the Chrome OS team at Google on the Chromebook Pixel and Pixel C teams.
I bought these two USB-C to Micro USB adapters from TechMatte and found they do not work properly with the Chromebook Pixel.
Upon closer inspection by our engineering team here, we have determined that this adapter is not correctly following the USB Type C specification.
The specification can be found here :
http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_31_102015.zip
Specifically, these adapters do not charge the Chromebook Pixel 2015 because the adapters leave the C-C lines floating, where the specification requires a Rp pullup to Vbus to identify the cable as a legacy adapter or cable.
Please see the document named "USB Type-C Specification Release 1.1.pdf"
section 4.5.3.2.4 for a description of why the Rp pullup is necessary.
Please also see Section 4.11 and the following note :
1. For Rp when implemented in the USB Type-C plug on a USB Type-C to USB 3.1 Standard-A Cable
Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Standard-A Cable Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Micro-B
Receptacle Adapter Assembly or a USB Type-C captive cable connected to a USB host, a value of 56 k'
± 5% shall be used, in order to provide tolerance to IR drop on V BUS and GND in the cable assembly.
In other words, since you are creating a USB Type-C plug to a USB 2.0 Micro-B receptacle assembly, you must use a resistor of value 56k' as a pullup to Vbus. This cable does not do this.
Please let me know if there is any more information I can provide about why these adapters are problematic.
If you are a consumer looking for a cable that is compatible with Pixel, do not use this one.
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I wanted to start a thread directly related to cables that are confirmed "charging rapidly." There are a handful of posts around here that talk about usb A to C but I had a hard time finding cables that actually brought the message up on my phone. Lastly before I start the list I wanted to mention that I understand the Nexus 5X I usb 2.0 only but just due to a future proofing mentality I prefer 3.0 cables.
I will update this thread accordingly as more people post results of cables that do support fast charging. During the testing make sure you are using a charger that supports high amperage output. I am using the following charger that supports 3.0 amp output per port.
Cables Confirmed Charging Rapidly
USB Type C To USB Type A Cable, TechMatte® USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) Type C (USB-C) Charging Data Sync Cable - Does not follow usb spec. [edit] as of 11/18 customers that have purchased this cable can request a new-to-spec cable from Techmatte and they will ship a new one. I will review the new unit when it comes in.
PECHAM B32 USB 3.1 Type C Male to Type A USB 3.0 Male Cable - usb spec. unconfirmed
Google - USB Type-C to USB Standard-A Plug Cable - Does follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
USB Type C Cable, CHOETECH 3.3ft - Does not follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
Cables Confirmed Not Charging Rapidly
BuyCheapCables® 6Ft. USB 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard Type-A Male - usb spec. unconfirmed
Juiced Systems USB-C (USB Type-C) to USB 3.0 - Does not follow usb spec.
USB 3.1 Type C Cable, JOTO USB-C 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard USB 3.0 Type A Male Charging Cable - Does not follow usb spec.
Type C, iOrange-E™ 6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector - Does follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
OnePlus Type-C Cable - Does not follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
Hi, I read a lot of fast charging cables...but did not noticed those..where is the techmatte confirmed? Tnx
fosser2 said:
I wanted to start a thread directly related to cables that are confirmed "charging rapidly." There are a handful of posts around here that talk about usb A to C but I had a hard time finding cables that actually brought the message up on my phone. Lastly before I start the list I wanted to mention that I understand the Nexus 5X I usb 2.0 only but just due to a future proofing mentality I prefer 3.0 cables.
I will update this thread accordingly as more people post results of cables that do support fast charging. During the testing make sure you are using a charger that supports high amperage output. I am using the following charger that supports 3.0 amp output per port.
Cables Confirmed Charging Rapidly
USB Type C To USB Type A Cable, TechMatte® USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) Type C (USB-C) Charging Data Sync Cable
Cables Confirmed Not Charging Rapidly
BuyCheapCables® 6Ft. USB 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard Type-A Male
Juiced Systems USB-C (USB Type-C) to USB 3.0
USB 3.1 Type C Cable, JOTO USB-C 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard USB 3.0 Type A Male Charging Cable
Type C, iOrange-E™ 6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector
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But beware some of those "fast charging USB A to C cable are not to spec according to Google engineer
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roxtedy169 said:
Hi, I read a lot of fast charging cables...but did not noticed those..where is the techmatte confirmed? Tnx
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I can confirm the techmatte cable is showing fast charging. I cannot confirm if the cable is actually to spec.
GreenDroidX said:
But beware some of those "fast charging USB A to C cable are not to spec according to Google engineer
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I totally understand. I have been reading all of the reviews that he has been posting. I will update the OP with approved cables later today if possible.
FWIW, the Juiced Systems cable shows 'Charging Rapidly' for me...
FWIW, https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable is back in stock.
iOrange-E cable shows rapid charge for me. Cost of cable has gone way up though though since I picked up mine. Probably not worth it.
I really hope this thread continues and gets more updates
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FWIW, the Juiced Systems cable shows 'Charging Rapidly' for me...
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Could you link the cord that you bought? If it is the same one that is in the OP please link the charger you are using.
BinkXDA said:
FWIW, https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable is back in stock.
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Thank you, I have ordered this cable. I will review when it comes in.
elherr said:
iOrange-E cable shows rapid charge for me. Cost of cable has gone way up though though since I picked up mine. Probably not worth it.
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Interesting... I know for sure this cable did not show rapid charging on (2) Nexus 5X's that I tried it on. I was using a 3A charger. Are you sure it is the same one that is posted in the OP?
Tank87 said:
I really hope this thread continues and gets more updates
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I will do my best to keep it updated.
Here is the link to the Juiced cable I bought:
Juiced Systems USB-C
The charger is an iClever charger, don't have any details on it...
I have a Pecham branded A to C cable bought from Amazon for £6.59 so approx $10. Its well made, braided with metal housings for the connectors. Charging with this one shows Charging rapidly on the lockscreen.
I also have an A to C cable direct from the Google store £10 ($15) Also good quality but slimmer and much more flexible than the Pecham.
I only see Charging on the lockscreen using this one.
Despite the differences the Ampere app indicates a charge rate of Approx 1700mAH for both cables!
For these tests I used an Anker Powercore 20100 battery pack and an Anker 40W 5 port mains charger. charge rates were identical.
banksc said:
Here is the link to the Juiced cable I bought:
Juiced Systems USB-C
The charger is an iClever charger, don't have any details on it...
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It is interesting that you were able to get this cable to register as charging rapidly. It is the exact same cable that I bought and returned and with a 3A charger it did not register as charging rapidly on my phone. For right now I will leave this cable in the category that it is in until further confirmation. I wonder if it is a charger specific thing?
basill said:
I have a Pecham branded A to C cable bought from Amazon for £6.59 so approx $10. Its well made, braided with metal housings for the connectors. Charging with this one shows Charging rapidly on the lockscreen.
I also have an A to C cable direct from the Google store £10 ($15) Also good quality but slimmer and much more flexible than the Pecham.
I only see Charging on the lockscreen using this one.
Despite the differences the Ampere app indicates a charge rate of Approx 1700mAH for both cables!
For these tests I used an Anker Powercore 20100 battery pack and an Anker 40W 5 port mains charger. charge rates were identical.
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I have added the Pecham cable to the OP. Thanks for the confirmation. I am getting the Google OEM cable A - C tomorrow. I will see if I can reproduce the results that you got with the OEM cable.
fosser2 said:
Interesting... I know for sure this cable did not show rapid charging on (2) Nexus 5X's that I tried it on. I was using a 3A charger. Are you sure it is the same one that is posted in the OP?
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Cable:
iOrange-E 6.6ft cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W
Charger I am using:
Anker 3 port 6 amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9D7RSM
My 5X shows "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen right now. It does not show that every time I plug it in -- but then again, neither does the stock charger.
elherr said:
Cable:
iOrange-E 6.6ft cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W
Charger I am using:
Anker 3 port 6 amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9D7RSM
My 5X shows "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen right now. It does not show that every time I plug it in -- but then again, neither does the stock charger.
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Up until tonight I didn't realize that charging rapidly does not show every time. I will dig into this further this week. I will also be adding the official OEM A to C cable from Google to the list.
I'm confused, I thought USB A to C can only suppose 2.4A max
You're using a charging brick that uses 3A output, does that mean .6A does not get used?
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Ironically "fast charging cables" are just out-of-specification cables, so if you want them just pay $1 for cables on eBay.
sturmeh said:
Ironically "fast charging cables" are just out-of-specification cables, so if you want them just pay $1 for cables on eBay.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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The OEM Google cable (USB-A to USB-C) does not fast charge when you plug it into a non-fast charging compatible source (such as a PC's USB ports).
Any USB-C cable should be capable of fast charging when plugged into an adapter rated for 3A current draw.
Cables that are not to spec will allow the phone to "charge rapidly" when it should not be charging rapidly.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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It displays fast charging because C -> C allows for more amps to be drawn
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It displays fast charging because C -> C allows for more amps to be drawn
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I agree with that, but there are certain cables that still follow the A -> C spec and allow "charging rapidly" when paired with the proper charger. I know they won't be capable of the full 2.8A - 3.0A but they can allow a max of 2.4A, and that's something that is ok with me.
Is there an advantage to charging with a USB C to A cable? From what I understand, USB C to C supports 3.0 Amps while USB C to A only supports 2.4 Amps. I currently find no problems with the stock N5X C to C charger other than that it's too short. However, I'm having difficulty finding longer C to C cables? Do they need to be compliant to specific specs?
I ordered a C to A cable for data transfer but unfortunately I found out that it doesn't meet spec. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017IBHXHG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
I still use it right now and it works fine but i'm just worried it might damage my computer so in the future i'll have to order one that Benson recommended.
Like you, I thought the C to C cable that came with the phone is too short. I like to keep my phone on top of my dresser at night, and the cable just won't reach. I've had a 6-ft micro USB cable for years that has been awesome with a couple different phones. So I was a little disappointed when I had to stop using it.
I ordered a 6-ft C to C cable from Monoprice (you can find it easily on their website). I'd highly recommend it. It came packaged nicely, and the quality of the cable feels the same as the original Google cable. My phone says it is rapidly charging when I connect that cable to the Google charger. I'm not a hardware expert, but I would expect it's getting the full 3 Amps because both ends are type C. Benson has not reviewed this cable, but it is to spec as far as I can tell. As far as I know, the issues with cables being out of spec are only really problematic for C to A cables, where the phone will attempt to draw more current than the A spec is rated for.
mkasberg said:
Like you, I thought the C to C cable that came with the phone is too short. I like to keep my phone on top of my dresser at night, and the cable just won't reach. I've had a 6-ft micro USB cable for years that has been awesome with a couple different phones. So I was a little disappointed when I had to stop using it.
I ordered a 6-ft C to C cable from Monoprice (you can find it easily on their website). I'd highly recommend it. It came packaged nicely, and the quality of the cable feels the same as the original Google cable. My phone says it is rapidly charging when I connect that cable to the Google charger. I'm not a hardware expert, but I would expect it's getting the full 3 Amps because both ends are type C. Benson has not reviewed this cable, but it is to spec as far as I can tell. As far as I know, the issues with cables being out of spec are only really problematic for C to A cables, where the phone will attempt to draw more current than the A spec is rated for.
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Thanks, i'll check it out. I've heard the same thing about USB C to A so that's why i'm going to stick to charging with C to C when possible.
We need a synergy now. There's too many separate but insufficent discourses around. Also too much infollution. Let's discuss it here.
What we have to illuminate?
1) Best fast charger with type-a output?
2) Which ones charges fast (not only 3A)?
3) Are type-a chargers are capable to output 3A or not?
3a) If they are not, which wall chargers we should use for fast charging?
3b) if they are is there any (for example Tronsmart has a new 3A charger)
We may multiply the questions but we also need answers.
I know there's an article on droid-life but they only tested 5-6 chargers. We need more tests I think.
We have 1 rule: NO CAR CHARGERS!
I'm pretty sure that simply put, A to C does up to only 2.4A. Doesn't matter what wall charger you have. If you want full 3A fast charging speeds, C to C is the only way.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I'm pretty sure that simply put, A to C does up to only 2.4A. Doesn't matter what wall charger you have. If you want full 3A fast charging speeds, C to C is the only way.
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I second this. I have been digging into this the last few days. Here is what I have gathered. In order to be to "spec" USB A to C cables are only to pull up to 2.4A. USB C to C are only to pull up to 3A.
So, in my opinion it would be a waste to buy any USB A type wall chargers. I know I will only be looking at USB C type wall chargers myself. I mean, I want to take full advantage of and utilize the technology of my new phone to the fullest.
Now, in theory, if you had a USB A to USB C cable that was out of spec (3A pull) and a USB A wall charger that was capable of outputting 3A, it would charge as fast as a USB C to USB C. Like I said, in theory.
The problem that is going around right now is that the USB C side of a bunch of the USB A to USB C cables is trying to pull 3A, when it is only suppose to be pulling 2.4A max. The problem with that is, most wall chargers, usb ports on computers, etc can not handle outputting 3A. So, they can (and do!) brown out. (fry out / die / permanent damage)
I have been looking around for wall chargers with actual USB C ports on them, but I have yet to come across any. (Other than the stock chargers for the 5X and 6P and the ones on the google store) I will keep an eye on this thread, and will update when I do.
It looks like that the main issue is the a to c cable. I'm telling this because as I said there's a 3A pull-up capable type a charger with Qualcomm QC 3.0:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-wc1t-quick-charge-3.0-wall-charger
It means; at least; that type a - micro usb is capable to push/pull up 3A but if the limit on a to c is max. 2.4A this cables are not capable. It's really interesting. I know nothing about cables technically.
But with my high school physics knowledge I can say that if type c corner may pull-up 3A from the charger and if the charger is incapable and becomes hot it means that the cable tries to pullup 3A and also type a corner of the cable may pull 3A.
So if the charger is capable to push 3A a to c may pull up to 3A.
Why we say a to c does only up to 2.4A then?
kamajikaciya said:
It looks like that the main issue is the a to c cable. I'm telling this because as I said there's a 3A pull-up capable type a charger with Qualcomm QC 3.0:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-wc1t-quick-charge-3.0-wall-charger
It means; at least; that type a - micro usb is capable to push/pull up 3A but if the limit on a to c is max. 2.4A this cables are not capable. It's really interesting. I know nothing about cables technically.
But with my high school physics knowledge I can say that if type c corner may pull-up 3A from the charger and if the charger is incapable and becomes hot it means that the cable tries to pullup 3A and also type a corner of the cable may pull 3A.
So if the charger is capable to push 3A a to c may pull up to 3A.
Why we say a to c does only up to 2.4A then?
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The answer for this question from Benson:
Tronsmart's Quick Charge 3.0 charger has a Type-A port, and if you read the fine print, at 5V, it is only allowed to output 2A. This charger is NOT capable of 3A.
Furthermore, you misunderstand the need for the pullup resistor. The pullup resistor is on a new pin in the Type-C connector and plug that doesn't exist on Type-A or Type-B plugs or connectors called CC or Configuration Channel.
kamajikaciya said:
So if the charger is capable to push 3A a to c may pull up to 3A.
Why we say a to c does only up to 2.4A then?
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A to C cables have to advertise default USB power which is 0,5A, because that it how USB used to work.
More current can be negotiated using a special combination of resistors connected to the data lines. There is 0.5, 1.5 and 2.4A, (and possibly more negotiations I don't remember)
gizzmoffm said:
A to C cables have to advertise default USB power which is 0,5A, because that it how USB used to work.
More current can be negotiated using a special combination of resistors connected to the data lines. There is 0.5, 1.5 and 2.4A, (and possibly more negotiations I don't remember)
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May you be a little bit specific? We will get only 0,5A with a to c cables or it depends on charger's capacity?
For example I have 1 FrieQ and 2 Google a to c cable. Which ampere this cables will be able to pull from charger? 0,5A always or up to 2,4A max?
With a USB A to C cables which fulfils the specs, the phone will first see a legacy USB Port with 0.5A and then it can negotiate a higher current up to 2.4A.
What is possible depends on the charger though.
You may Google for 'USB DCP divider mode' to find more information about possible combinations.
USB C is going to be the standard in the future. I don't own a tablet, or any other devices myself. So I have no need for any type A adapters now. I am just going to stick with Type C to C adapters for my 5X. Seems the best way to go. I bought 1 x 3' USB A to USB C cable and it is only for hooking my 5X to my computer.
I bought the Vinsic charger and a 3' USB C to USB C cable for my car. Both were approved by Benson. The Vinsic charger is a car charger, and it has a 3A USB C Port on it. The 5X displays "charging rapidly" when plugged into it. (It also has a 2.4A USB A port on it as well, but you wont get full amperage when charging two devices at the same time) Sorry, I know you said no car chargers but it goes with the whole USB A is 2.4A and USB C is 3A, just like house chargers. Now, that Quick Charger 3.0 adapter is interesting. I wonder if the 2.4A spec only applies to USB A to USB C cables. Can a USB A to Micro USB cable pull 3A?
I am still looking around and keeping an eye out for more USB C house charges. I will post my findings.
EeZeEpEe said:
I'm pretty sure that simply put, A to C does up to only 2.4A. Doesn't matter what wall charger you have. If you want full 3A fast charging speeds, C to C is the only way.
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That is the answer. I'm currently testing this quick charge with AC cable, and using a Type-C charger with CC cable.
http://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Charging-Technology-Certified-Supported/dp/B017I7EX46/
please share your experience
st8chic said:
That is the answer. I'm currently testing this quick charge with AC cable, and using a Type-C charger with CC cable.
http://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Charging-Technology-Certified-Supported/dp/B017I7EX46/
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i like to order one, pls share your experience.
that the only type c charger for the moment.
TNX
pinkman1 said:
i like to order one, pls share your experience.
that the only type c charger for the moment.
TNX
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It is well built and works fine...almost the same speed as the OEM charger.
I picked up their Type C-C cable and charger and have had a week to compare them to the OEM units we received with our handset.
I was expecting marginal quality because of the low cost and unfamiliar manufacturer. When the order arrived, I was impressed with the packaging, which speaks volumes to me. When you make a quality product, presentation matters. Conversely, when your selling junk, you throw it in the cheapest plastic bag possible and call it good.
After using this cable and charger exclusively for the past seven days, I can confirm it's as good as the OEM. Personally, I like the Choetech cable better because it's sturdier in my hand.
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They now have a power bank up on Amazon which will be my next purchase. I'm confident that it will be solid based on my experience with them to date. I saw a similar power bank that was given in a Project Fi welcome kit and I've been lusting over one ever since.
tgearman said:
I picked up their Type C-C cable and charger and have had a week to compare them to the OEM units we received with our handset.
I was expecting marginal quality because of the low cost and unfamiliar manufacturer. When the order arrived, I was impressed with the packaging, which speaks volumes to me. When you make a quality product, presentation matters. Conversely, when your selling junk, you throw it in the cheapest plastic bag possible and call it good.
After using this cable and charger exclusively for the past seven days, I can confirm it's as good as the OEM. Personally, I like the Choetech cable better because it's sturdier in my hand.
They now have a power bank up on Amazon which will be my next purchase. I'm confident that it will be solid based on my experience with them to date. I saw a similar power bank that was given in a Project Fi welcome kit and I've been lusting over one ever since.
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Just looked up power bank you mentioned:
(Type C) CHOETECH 10400mAH Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank Fast Charger for Fast Charger for Lumia 950xl /950,Nexus 5x/Nexus 6p https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0188DIXX6/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_OpozwbDTBXJY6
Looks like it's only type-C input though.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Just looked up power bank you mentioned:
(Type C) CHOETECH 10400mAH Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank Fast Charger for Fast Charger for Lumia 950xl /950,Nexus 5x/Nexus 6p https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0188DIXX6/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_OpozwbDTBXJY6
Looks like it's only type-C input though.
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What a shame its not type C output....which is what people would want for nexus's
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Is anybody aware of a wall charger that has both ports for USB A and USB C? I want to be able to charge my 5x along with my girlfriend's s6 at the same time, along with some other microUSB devices. It would be ideal for the USB C port to output 3A and the USB A port to output 2.4A. I've had no luck searching for anything like this.
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Is anybody aware of a wall charger that has both ports for USB A and USB C? I want to be able to charge my 5x along with my girlfriend's s6 at the same time, along with some other microUSB devices. It would be ideal for the USB C port to output 3A and the USB A port to output 2.4A. I've had no luck searching for anything like this.
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I've only seen a desktop multi charger. Something like 5 ports and one of them being type C.
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I'm guessing this is maybe what you're looking for. Not sure if it can charge one at 3.0 and one at 2.4 but it does have both ports. Unfortunately since I am a new member I can't post a link but it's called the "Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger". You should be able to find it if you search on google.
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I'm guessing this is maybe what you're looking for. Not sure if it can charge one at 3.0 and one at 2.4 but it does have both ports. Unfortunately since I am a new member I can't post a link but it's called the "Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger". You should be able to find it if you search on google.
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Yeah I saw that one too but didn't mention it since it wasn't fast charging.
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xVaughan said:
I'm guessing this is maybe what you're looking for. Not sure if it can charge one at 3.0 and one at 2.4 but it does have both ports. Unfortunately since I am a new member I can't post a link but it's called the "Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger". You should be able to find it if you search on google.
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Good find thanks, definitely what I was looking for. Just a little expensive at $23...hopefully they start becoming more common soon.
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Anker offer a desktop charger with one USB C 3A and 4 standard 2.4 A USB ports, total output 40W. Likely to be over budget though...o
There is the Choetech wall charger with 1 x USB C and 2 x USB A ports. It can do 1 x 3 amp and 2 x 2.4 A simultaneously.
It's reviewed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...iew-choetech-39w-3-port-wall-charger-t3315872
I have the UK version and it works great with the 5x. Choetech cables (I have a C to C and A to C) are great quality. I think they make the oem cables for Google (I'm sure someone will correct me if this isn't right)
this one is also pretty good, just don't expect to be able to use all 3 ports at max output:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A8V6RI4?ref_=cm_rdp_product
perfect for a phone, a smartwatch, and an accessory though