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as title, I have just installed wondershare on my pc and sideloaded mx player, angry birds and a couple of other apk files. my watch and phone (s4) are both stock unrooted and running the latest gear manager and watch software.
now after about 5 minutes I get a notification on the gear that it has disconnected from the phone and the sideloaded apks have gone. they still show up on wondershare but have to be uninstalled and reinstalled to show on the gear.
The installed apps work fine after installing them, and I didnt I have this issue when I 1st played with it at Christmas on my wondershare trial , but the trail ran out and I updated things.
So is this a problem with the gear manager software? or the gear itself? or me?
Use an older version of gear manager
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delboydell said:
as title, I have just installed wondershare on my pc and sideloaded mx player, angry birds and a couple of other apk files. my watch and phone (s4) are both stock unrooted and running the latest gear manager and watch software.
now after about 5 minutes I get a notification on the gear that it has disconnected from the phone and the sideloaded apks have gone. they still show up on wondershare but have to be uninstalled and reinstalled to show on the gear.
The installed apps work fine after installing them, and I didnt I have this issue when I 1st played with it at Christmas on my wondershare trial , but the trail ran out and I updated things.
So is this a problem with the gear manager software? or the gear itself? or me?
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hi ,
first ,it is not a Wondershare "problem "but i think its just "Sammy" that not to happy to let us sideload on Gear ??
As this issue with apps, worked 100% on previous rom and Gear Manager software untill a" few " versions" back .
yes ,i have same problem ( using rom NA6 and Gear Manager v1.6.132701 )
but it does not worry me ,as i know apps are working ..etc
i use a workaround , Thus having benefits of latest software /ROM and gear manager (unless its really buggy )
if you want to ,all you have to do is reboot Gear and if you look in 'apps 'section on your Gear ,
all your sideloaded apps should show ( before they evenually disappear from "apps " section.)
i launch each app once and close it straight away .( the reason is that it is in memory of recent use app )
if i need to launch a sideloaded app i tap screen with 2 fingers on screen , and hold to bring up all recent used apps and select relevant app ?
(No need to reinstall etc .)
also yes,
you should get it right, with previous version of Gear manager
but you would have to go back 2 ..3 versions mabe to vers .1.5......?
(but you are going to lose other" improved benefits eg. like better bluetooth stability between phone and Gear ? etc.
just an alternative suggestion if you interested
Previous posters solution works however.....I have experienced the same issue tonight after the most recent upgrade to Gear software. Rebooting worked also. My fault as I wanted to restore to factory settings to remove QuickTwit from Notifications (a bug). The upgrade did offer a restore which I didn't take D'Oh!! I then did a restore via Wondershare.
I found that the approved Samsung apps like eBay for Gear and RadiOn although restored to the Gear via Wondershare had to be installed to Gear Manager by installing the apps from scratch.
Now all the apps don't disappear after 5 mins. Co-Incidence?
However, they do not appear on the list of downloaded apps, as they did with the previous version of Gear Manager.
Do also make sure the 3rd party app permissions box is ticked on the Gear Manager too.
willcor said:
hi ,
first ,it is not a Wondershare "problem "but i think its just "Sammy" that not to happy to let us sideload on Gear ??
As this issue with apps, worked 100% on previous rom and Gear Manager software untill a" few " versions" back .
yes ,i have same problem ( using rom NA6 and Gear Manager v1.6.132701 )
but it does not worry me ,as i know apps are working ..etc
i use a workaround , Thus having benefits of latest software /ROM and gear manager (unless its really buggy )
if you want to ,all you have to do is reboot Gear and if you look in 'apps 'section on your Gear ,
all your sideloaded apps should show ( before they evenually disappear from "apps " section.)
i launch each app once and close it straight away .( the reason is that it is in memory of recent use app )
if i need to launch a sideloaded app i tap screen with 2 fingers on screen , and hold to bring up all recent used apps and select relevant app ?
(No need to reinstall etc .)
also yes,
you should get it right, with previous version of Gear manager
but you would have to go back 2 ..3 versions mabe to vers .1.5......?
(but you are going to lose other" improved benefits eg. like better bluetooth stability between phone and Gear ? etc.
just an alternative suggestion if you interested
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thanks for the reply, however your method does not work for me, after a reboot of the watch the sideloaded apps are not there??
looks like I am going to have to root the watch.
delboydell said:
thanks for the reply, however your method does not work for me, after a reboot of the watch the sideloaded apps are not there??
looks like I am going to have to root the watch.
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Did you make sure the 3rd party app permissions box is ticked on the Gear Manager too?
Going back from Gear Manager v1.6 to v1.5 fixed issue for me. There's a nice collection of Gear Managers in this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593066
I hope it was just a bug in Gear Manager v1.6, and Samsung is not really trying to prevent sideloading.
I was looking around for a way to use the gear VR with Cardboard apps and all I could find was to just not insert the usb all the way or tuck it under the micro usb plug, I knew there had to be a better way. There is. With this easy trick you can use all the Cardboard apps and watch SBS 3D using a player like BS player easy.
Here's how to use the Gear VR outside of the native Oculus app, and it's soooo easy. Note: You'll need to be rooted for this to work.
1. download the App Quarantine app from the play store and install it.
2. Create a widget and select the App Quarantine widget. Select the "Gear VR Service" as the app to freeze/defrost.
Bam, that's it. When you want to use a Cardboard app just click the widget, then lock icon, and then load the Cardboard app you want to use before inserting the phone into the headset. If you want to watch a SBS 3D movie in BS player just load it, pinch to zoom out a bit (fiddle with this to get it to your liking), click play and put on the headset and you're set. With a BT game controller you can even control the the playback.
When you're ready to go back to the Gear, just click the widget again and then the unlock icon. So simple...
If this helped give me a thanks below! Have fun, this headset rocks!!!!
Edit: Just to clarify, this will only work with Cardboard apps that don't require the magnetic clicker. However, I have found if you have a high power neodymium magnet laying around you can just swipe it by the end of the headset (kind of quickly) and it will trigger the clicker. Kinda lame for shooter games, but it's a workaround...
Nice. I'm going to try it, before Google or Samsung fives it
It also works to just put the phone in below the microusb plug - it fits fine..
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It also works to just put the phone in below the microusb plug - it fits fine..
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I know, mentioned that in the first paragraph. Just don't think it's a good idea to put the unesacerry strain on the USB connector and have a less than secure fit (don't want the phone crashing to the floor). This only takes 2 seconds to do and allows for a secure docking of the phone.
The Note will need this connectivity if 3rd party devs are going to use the tracking data from the headset in their apps. Way lower latency than using the phone's sensors...
AspenMan said:
I was looking around for a way to use the gear VR with Cardboard apps and all I could find was to just not insert the usb all the way or tuck it under the micro usb plug, I knew there had to be a better way. There is. With this easy trick you can use all the Cardboard apps and watch SBS 3D using a player like BS player easy.
Here's how to use the Gear VR outside of the native Oculus app, and it's soooo easy.
1. download the App Quarantine app from the play store and install it.
2. Create a widget and select the App Quarantine widget. Select the "Gear VR Service" as the app to freeze/defrost.
Bam, that's it. When you want to use a Cardboard app just click the widget, then lock icon, and then load the Cardboard app you want to use before inserting the phone into the headset. If you want to watch a SBS 3D movie in BS player just load it, pinch to zoom out a bit (fiddle with this to get it to your liking), click play and put on the headset and you're set. With a BT game controller you can even control the the playback.
When you're ready to go back to the Gear, just click the widget again and then the unlock icon. So simple...
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Nice idea but you do need root for that app right? Can the Note 4 be already rooted without tripping the Knox counter?
You do need to be rooted. Haven't seen a way to root without tripping Knox, yet...
2. Create a widget and select the App Quarantine widget. Select the "Gear VR Service" as the app to freeze/defrost.
Where is this? cant find it in list of apps to freeze.
charlie
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You do need to be rooted. Haven't seen a way to root without tripping Knox, yet...
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Might need to point that out in a revision, since that means this helps only about 5% of current N4 owners. Boo to no root!
I would like to use my other video players since the player built in does not cover all codecs or AC3.
It appears you must already have made a connection to the Gear VR in order to have the Gear VR Service? I too, cannot see this service anywhere. I have a Exynos model Note 4 (N910U) and it is my understanding that the Exynos models are not yet compatible with the VR. I've been trying to find the service used to auto launch whatever it is the VR auto launches to try and disable that with DisableService but have yet to find this. Any ideas?
callif said:
2. Create a widget and select the App Quarantine widget. Select the "Gear VR Service" as the app to freeze/defrost.
Where is this? cant find it in list of apps to freeze.
charlie
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Try rebooting your phone and looking for the Gear VR service again. If you have the Gear installed it should be there.
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It appears you must already have made a connection to the Gear VR in order to have the Gear VR Service? I too, cannot see this service anywhere. I have a Exynos model Note 4 (N910U) and it is my understanding that the Exynos models are not yet compatible with the VR. I've been trying to find the service used to auto launch whatever it is the VR auto launches to try and disable that with DisableService but have yet to find this. Any ideas?
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My guess is that you'll have had to make a connection at least once and will definitely need to have installed the Gear apps first. I would install the gear, run through the setup, reboot, put the phone into the gear and then remove it, install the App Quarantine app and then try it. Should work.
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My guess is that you'll have had to make a connection at least once and will definitely need to have installed the Gear apps first. I would install the gear, run through the setup, reboot, put the phone into the gear and then remove it, install the App Quarantine app and then try it. Should work.
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This won't work for me or anyone who cannot make that initial connection: we'll have to find another way or wait until the Gear VR supports the Exynos Note 4s. Right now, the N910U will not work with Gear VR until it receives a firmware update supporting it. I received confirmation directly from Samsung about this yet no details as to when the Exynos models will receive support. Way to go, Samsung, for making this perfectly clear to those looking to buy the Gear VR.
KrakaJap said:
This won't work for me or anyone who cannot make that initial connection: we'll have to find another way or wait until the Gear VR supports the Exynos Note 4s. Right now, the N910U will not work with Gear VR until it receives a firmware update supporting it. I received confirmation directly from Samsung about this yet no details as to when the Exynos models will receive support. Way to go, Samsung, for making this perfectly clear to those looking to buy the Gear VR.
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I would think if the gear app launches when you attach it (even if only to notify you it's not compatible) there has to be a service running. Should be able to freeze it and attach the Gear without the app launching...
If you have no need for the Gear apps just yet (until you can update your phone), just use Titanium backup and freeze any app you see related to the Gear VR and you should be able to attach it to the phone without anything happening. The touchpad should also be recognized as a mouse and volume and back buttons should also work.
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I would think if the gear app launches when you attach it (even if only to notify you it's not compatible) there has to be a service running. Should be able to freeze it and attach the Gear without the app launching...
If you have no need for the Gear apps just yet (until you can update your phone), just use Titanium backup and freeze any app you see related to the Gear VR and you should be able to attach it to the phone without anything happening. The touchpad should also be recognized as a mouse and volume and back buttons should also work.
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You're not understanding though... the Exynos models are not compatible with Gear VR, period. When you plug them in you get a black screen and that's it. Nothing gets launched, installed, etc. The Gear VR service is not present until you make that first connection and get the software. I guess the software resides on the Gear VR itself and is pushed to the Note 4? I don't know exactly how it works. I just know it won't work
I also don't know if it's all Exynos models but I know for sure it's not compatible with N910U.
I have an Exynos version and I was able to successfully stop the gear vr service.
Download an app called Disable Service and you should see the Gear VR Service there. Just force it to stop.
Alternatively, you can go into Settings, Applications Manager and Force it to Stop from there.
Once Stoped, it should work.
One thing I noticed though, was that Im having difficulties finding good convergence with other apps. I dont know whether this is due to my large IPD (73) or due to the fact that these apps are not optimized for the Gear VR.
Theres cool app for cinema called Cmoar VR cinema, but I was unable to find proper focus with this app.
lucianolsp said:
I have an Exynos version and I was able to successfully stop the gear vr service.
Download an app called Disable Service and you should see the Gear VR Service there. Just force it to stop.
Alternatively, you can go into Settings, Applications Manager and Force it to Stop from there.
Once Stoped, it should work.
One thing I noticed though, was that Im having difficulties finding good convergence with other apps. I dont know whether this is due to my large IPD (73) or due to the fact that these apps are not optimized for the Gear VR.
Theres cool app for cinema called Cmoar VR cinema, but I was unable to find proper focus with this app.
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And what's your baseband? ANK5? ANK7? I'm N910U (Hong Kong) ANJ5 and the Gear VR service does not exist. We have yet to receive the firmware update making this model compatible with Gear VR.
hum... didnt know that.
My baseband is NK5.
IF I disable the service, I can connect to the usb no problem.
lucianolsp said:
hum... didnt know that.
My baseband is NK5.
IF I disable the service, I can connect to the usb no problem.
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I'm tempted to try Taiwan ANK7. I've never done that before though... that should work right? Both models are N910U.
I still can't get the widget to show the vr services, when I go direct to the app I see the VR services just fine ... Damn you, tricky VR
just got my gear vr that i ordered from the states but can not get it setup, i assume i need the gear vr manager apk. when i put my phone in it says on the display to take the phone out and install the software and it does but then says I need to update my phone could someone post the apk and I will see what happens thanks.
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just got my gear vr that i ordered from the states but can not get it setup, i assume i need the gear vr manager apk. when i put my phone in it says on the display to take the phone out and install the software and it does but then says I need to update my phone could someone post the apk and I will see what happens thanks.
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its not an apk, i tried the apk still didnt work you need the newer firmware, im with telus. obviously will need root to do this.
Downlaod apk should work. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2cmbkeyamj...dStub.apk?dl=0
install ael kernel v5, clear cache dalvik, reboot
download apk from above link
After downloading apk you wont see that app, I used Nova, created a shortcut, chose activities, then vrsetupwizardstub, then samsung gear vr, then hit the created shortcut and done. or you can download quick short cut maker from the play store
then when you install phone into gear vr the first time everything should be golden!
Was going to try and avoid having to root but I don't have much patience to wait for lollipop and don't want $200 collecting dust so I will try this. Thanks
*you link is not working though*
Can you also link me to the thread for that kernel thanks
Alight let's try again.
Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...pment/30-november-2014-n4-ael-kernel-t2961240
Vr setup apk https://mega.co.nz/#!7xd2xDob!uqqCiYYpTaDIoenAK4H-cBTineKRG4xiTp-ZlVb6P98
Dk 3.0 rom in t-mobile android dev forum
1. Flash rom first
2. Flash kernel right after do not boot after flashing the rom! or it will bootloop. If you do then boot into recovery and flash kernel
3. After downloading apk you wont see tha app, I used Nova, created a shortcut, chose activities, then vrsetupwizardstub, then samsung gear vr, then hit the created shortcut and done. or you can download quick short cut maker from the play store
then when you install phone into gear vr the first time everything should be golden!
Cant I use the kernel with just the stock bell mobility rom one rooted?
Mine wouldn't boot with the stock Telus kernel. Plus ael is really nice. Try it if works great if not flash ael.
Flashed all on top of my bell stock rom and it worked, ran the vr setup and still didn't work then realized that it is most likely the phone software/build that needs to be a newer version. Just Flashed dk 3 with ael kernel and will try setup and report back.
I have cm12 on my note the unofficial version is there anything I can do to make the setup.work on this rom
i flashed firekat with the ael kernel and when i start up the vrsetup wizard it still tells me my phone needs to be upgraded, what am i doing wrong?
edit: figured it out, if you are installing firekat you have to install the version 7 regular version not the canadian one, then flash AEL on top and it works.
still wondering if its possible though to get this going on AOSP.
VR app with Google Cardboard
Hi friends! One question... is posible to launch VR app without Samsung Gear VR? For example to use Google Cardboard with my Note 4? haha
jdnichollsc said:
Hi friends! One question... is posible to launch VR app without Samsung Gear VR? For example to use Google Cardboard with my Note 4? haha
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I would like to know this.I am trying to do this,but i didn t find way anywhere
Anyone? I'm trying to do the same thing. Didn't know that it's an exclusive app that is only enabled with the Gear VR.
ThaiM said:
Anyone? I'm trying to do the same thing. Didn't know that it's an exclusive app that is only enabled with the Gear VR.
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I've tried this several times to see if i can get Oculus Home to run properly with a Google Cardboard. Furthest I can tell you I got was loading up developer mode in Gear VR service to run downloaded apps from the Oculus store. Depending on what kernel and version of lollipop you're running you may run into some odd screen errors. However, low persistence mode should change your screen display to a bright flickering when developer mode is enabled. After loading up a downloaded app/game from oculus within Gear VR service you won't be able to look around because the tracking data is specific to enhancements made by the Gear VR HMD.
Long story short, you could theoretically play bluetooth controller enabled games. You wouldn't have any headtracking
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I've tried this several times to see if i can get Oculus Home to run properly with a Google Cardboard. Furthest I can tell you I got was loading up developer mode in Gear VR service to run downloaded apps from the Oculus store. Depending on what kernel and version of lollipop you're running you may run into some odd screen errors. However, low persistence mode should change your screen display to a bright flickering when developer mode is enabled. After loading up a downloaded app/game from oculus within Gear VR service you won't be able to look around because the tracking data is specific to enhancements made by the Gear VR HMD.
Long story short, you could theoretically play bluetooth controller enabled games. You wouldn't have any headtracking
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Yep. I recently figured that out. It uses the headtracking in the Gear VR headset. I originally thought it was just a fancy shell. Apparently now. I wish there was a mod to be able to use the Note 4's gyros. But there are mods out there where people are creating headtracking circuit boards. But that seems out of my league.
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Yep. I recently figured that out. It uses the headtracking in the Gear VR headset. I originally thought it was just a fancy shell. Apparently now. I wish there was a mod to be able to use the Note 4's gyros. But there are mods out there where people are creating headtracking circuit boards. But that seems out of my league.
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Yea... I'd say wait for Rift CV1 if you got a good computer. Gear VR is just a novelty piece tbh. You can only use it in short bursts of time until it overheats. I'd say an hour at max without a fan blowing into your face. Don't get me wrong though, it's worth the $99USD price tag to experience and share with family and friends.
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I would like to know this.I am trying to do this,but i didn t find way anywhere
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will never work. Not fully. Its optimzed for the Gear VR headset depending on the display size as well.
not sure anybody still cares but i went to a friends house in VT a few weeks back, got a Gear VR delivered to his place by amazon.com, brought it back home (canada) and I have an american VPN and had no issues at all to set it up, I have access to any and all US only content such as MilkVR. It seems, unlike the playstore, the content is geo-restricted and doesnt take into account the billing info on your samsung account. If anybody has issues, try a free VPN, or rent one for a month.
Is anyone still looking/having issues with the Gear VR on Note 4 in canada using the Arcadia lollipop 5.1.1 Rom by Emporia.
My headset worked, asked me (in a vr environment) to remove the headset and install the necessary apps. once complete, it had me re-insert my phone into the headset, only to display a single image of the welcome screen and then hang on the health and safety warning, (that was also in 2d and only viewable in its entirety without the headset on.
if I remove the phone, within a brief second it shows "calibrating" before it realizes it has been disconnected. and the oculus software shuts down.
I appreciate any help anyone could provide, I too hate the idea of the money having been wasted on something that no longer works at all.
I have been trying all the advice I can find for two weeks. It's an obsession now, it's not healthy. Any help would be life changing. I have a lot of experience flashing roms and tinkering, I've been doing this for several years... like since CM7 with multiple phones. usually I can follow some instructions and make things work but this has been an epic fail.
I have a galaxy s3 and an s4 I've tried gear manager on both.... connects fine with a touchwiz ROM on the phone(s)., but I despise touchwiz and I'd rather get rid of the watch if I have to. I almost always use AOSP roms... currently CM13. gear will not work. I've tried editing build.prop changing samsung to htc. I've downloaded .apk's for gear plugin and samsung accessory service and install before and after gear manager. I've tried multiple older versions.
the latest stumbling block is an error message that says, "check if your phone is compatible and if the samsung gear app needs to be updated"
has anyone seen this message, I can't find any similar problems on this site or anywhere else?
am I missing something. did they update the gear app and now previous solutions are not working?
Thanks for your help. XDA usually saves me! I have never had to ask for help before.
I had the same issue with my Galaxy s5 kltedv with AICP Nougat custom rom. I got the Gear S3 and downloaded the gear manager app but it wouldn't open due to it "detecting and unauthorised OS." In the meantime I've had to return to the stock touchwiz (MM) rom to get it to work. Seems ridiculous that the app won't open with a custom rom yet it can be used on non Samsung phones. I'm still hunting around for an answer/solution so can't help you out just yet.
Found a work around answer for you at https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s2/help/samsung-devices-running-cm13-12-1-pair-t3290076
2Mecky: Try editing your build.prop and replace your make with "google" or "htc". I've been able to get as far as getting the manager to open on my S5, but I can't get it to detect my Gear 2. I just got the watch today, though so I haven't had a lot of time to mess around. I am kind of surprised that I was able to get this far, though.
I am trying to get my S6 Active to work with the gearVR, and I am struggling with the process. Users here: https://forums.oculus.com/community/discussion/comment/322781/#Comment_322781 have been messing around with the USB connector to get the active to fit. The next problem is software.
Back in 5.0.2, the S6 active had the software for gearVR. I remember it having 4 gearVR apks listed under system software. The software was then gone in updates 5.1.1 and 6.0.1, of course.
I reinstalled Gear VR SetupWizard, Gear VR Service, Gear VR Shell, and Gear VR System from aptoide. I believe these are the four apks that are found in S6s and S7s. The problem now is that whenever I activate gear VR SetupWizard, I click download and it gives me "An unexpected error has occurred, please try later". I tried WIFI and over the network. My next plan would be to mess with the build.prop file to spoof another device. However, S6 Active's bootloaders are locked and unrootable at the moment with 5.1.1 and above. I would just be satisfied at this point with just the Oculus store working without the actual gearVR headset, and have the oculus apps run with cardboard headsets.
Any idea what to do at this point? Do I even have the right 4 apks installed?
hi i try to root s6active 5.0.2 to do the same can you send me link to do ??
Plese give me link to root S6 active 5.0.2 i try to do the same and i have a vertion of Vr good apk