Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
It wont work. The HTC Vivid only has WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100 that is what is used for 3G data speeds. T-Mobile requires AWS bands which is 1700 and 2100. On T-Mobile one of those bands is used for Uploading and the other is used for Downloading....you need both in order to be AWS compliant. The fact that it has 2100 does nothing for T-Mobile use. 2100 is used in Europe.
The 1700 band listed is only for LTE. And I think Phonescoop actually missed part of the LTE specifications because I read elsewhere that the HTC Vivid for LTE is 700 and AWS. Meaning that it uses the AWS bands 1700/2100 for LTE only. And you can't use this for T-Mobile AWS 3G. This makes sense if the T-Mobile purchase goes through because AT&T intends to use T-Mobiles current 3G bands which are only AWS 1700/2100 for LTE.
sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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Perhaps somebody else can confirm this, but my speculation is no. The AWS band in the Vivid is specifically for LTE, I believe, so it wouldn't pick up HSPA on it. It has this mainly so that it's merger proof, I think. AT&T would like to use T-Mobile's AWS band for expanded LTE if the merger goes through.
galfert said:
It wont work. The HTC Vivid only has WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100 that is what is used for 3G data speeds. T-Mobile requires AWS bands which is 1700 and 2100. On T-Mobile one of those bands is used for Uploading and the other is used for Downloading....you need both in order to be AWS compliant. The fact that it has 2100 does nothing for T-Mobile use. 2100 is used in Europe.
The 1700 band listed is only for LTE. And I think Phonescoop actually missed part of the LTE specifications because I read elsewhere that the HTC Vivid for LTE is 700 and AWS. Meaning that it uses the AWS bands 1700/2100 for LTE only. And you can't use this for T-Mobile AWS 3G. This makes sense if the T-Mobile purchase goes through because AT&T intends to use T-Mobiles current 3G bands which are only AWS 1700/2100 for LTE.
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How about T-mobile HSPA+ network will the HTC vivid works?
Can somebody please confirm whether this phone is compatible with T-Mobile 4g Network. I have T-Mobile grandfathered $5 unlimited data. it would be awesome if this phone works! (since none of T-mobile branded phones work with grandfathered data) )
engsrini said:
How about T-mobile HSPA+ network will the HTC vivid works?
Can somebody please confirm whether this phone is compatible with T-Mobile 4g Network. I have T-Mobile grandfathered $5 unlimited data. it would be awesome if this phone works! (since none of T-mobile branded phones work with grandfathered data) )
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TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
Pirateghost said:
TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
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Yes true, I missed that part of the explanation, thanks.
T-Mobile 3G = WCDMA/UMTS/HSDPA = AWS Band 1700/2100 (needs both frequencies - one uploads, the other downloads)
T-Mobile 4G = HSPA+ = same requirements as 3G
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA App
sorry to resurrect this thread, but hasn't t-mobile started putting out their 1900MHZ spectrum 3G? I have heard and seen many iPhones getting 3g with T-Mobile. This VIVID has the same bands as other phones that would get 3g, since it has a 1900 HSDPA band. Has anyone reported sightings of getting 3g on an HTC Vivid yet?
solidus636 said:
sorry to resurrect this thread, but hasn't t-mobile started putting out their 1900MHZ spectrum 3G? I have heard and seen many iPhones getting 3g with T-Mobile. This VIVID has the same bands as other phones that would get 3g, since it has a 1900 HSDPA band. Has anyone reported sightings of getting 3g on an HTC Vivid yet?
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I saw some OneXL users were reporting 3g speeds on TMobile as well
sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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HSDPA working here on a HTC Vivid on T-Mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29641878&postcount=12
3G & HSDPA working
Wolf61477 said:
HSDPA working here on a HTC Vivid on T-Mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29641878&postcount=12
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just did multiple speed tests, and i got a range from 7mbps - 10.5 mbps download and 1.5 - 4.5 upload on my vivid that was a paper weight for a while.:laugh:
nice work T-mobile:good:
Pirateghost said:
TMobile 3G/4G share the same frequencies....so NO...it wont work
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what about tmobile LTE. sorry for reviving, just curious
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
what about tmobile LTE. sorry for reviving, just curious
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Pretty are still a no go..I believe only there 3g networks were changed..could he wrong though...
Sent from my SGH-I997 using Tapatalk 2
sdaddy said:
Given that the Vivid has the following bands (according to Phonescoop):
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LTE 700 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
-Can anyone confirm whether this phone, when unlocked, will work with T-Mobile's 3G network or not; since it has the AWS (1700) band?
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In case you still need help, here is what I suggest:
For the unlock, use unlockusa.com to get your code. They're the fastest and most reliable on the market.
For the internet, use the following settings for your APN (Credits: http://htcsource.com/2012/08/how-to-sim-unlock-the-htc-vivid-and-add-t-mobiles-access-point/) :
Name: T-Mobile.com
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: Not Set
Port: Not Set
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server: wap.voicestream.com
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: 261.155.165.50
MMS port: Not Set
MMS protocol: WAP 2.0
MCC:310
MNC: 260
Authentication type; Not Set
APN type: default
APN enable/disable: Checked
Bearer:Unspecified
Enjoy your cool phone !
I hope that helps. It worked for me, as I was having the same issue.
Just curious (reviving the thread), I noticed that T-mobile's GSM-based network has 1700MHz AWS listed for their 4G speeds, and the radio interface is LTE. The Vivid has 700 and 1700/2100 MHz listed for the LTE. Both are listed to work on band 4. Would this not theoretically allow the vivid to attain 4G speeds on T-mobile?
Also, T-mobile has 850 [roaming], 1700, and 1900 MHz on the UMTS interface for 3G generation. The vivid can connect to 850[roaming!] and 1900 MHz, although it does not specify the band. So maybe 3G works with T-mobile?
And we all know the 2G spectrum works too, but just for consistency:
T-mobile 2G: 850MHz (band 5) GSM [roaming], 1900MHz (band 2) GSM
Vivid: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz GSM
I would love either verification or reasons why this doesn't quite work!
projectisaac said:
Just curious (reviving the thread), I noticed that T-mobile's GSM-based network has 1700MHz AWS listed for their 4G speeds, and the radio interface is LTE. The Vivid has 700 and 1700/2100 MHz listed for the LTE. Both are listed to work on band 4. Would this not theoretically allow the vivid to attain 4G speeds on T-mobile?
Also, T-mobile has 850 [roaming], 1700, and 1900 MHz on the UMTS interface for 3G generation. The vivid can connect to 850[roaming!] and 1900 MHz, although it does not specify the band. So maybe 3G works with T-mobile?
And we all know the 2G spectrum works too, but just for consistency:
T-mobile 2G: 850MHz (band 5) GSM [roaming], 1900MHz (band 2) GSM
Vivid: 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 1900MHz GSM
I would love either verification or reasons why this doesn't quite work!
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Hello everyone and hello there.
Have a HTC VIVID on Albinoman's CM11 (1/12 build) using Simple Mobile (a MVNO of T-Mobile).
Using the APN already on the SIM/ROM I DO NOT get the 4G LTE.
Fortunately I get 4G, H, 3G, and E for the phone.
So LTE is still a no-go with T-Mobile with the HTC Vivid unfortunately (for now).
Wdenton said:
Hello everyone and hello there.
Have a HTC VIVID on Albinoman's CM11 (1/12 build) using Simple Mobile (a MVNO of T-Mobile).
Using the APN already on the SIM/ROM I DO NOT get the 4G LTE.
Fortunately I get 4G, H, 3G, and E for the phone.
So LTE is still a no-go with T-Mobile with the HTC Vivid unfortunately (for now).
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I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
rignfool said:
I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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Hopefully it doesn't take long is what I meant, was half asleep when I posted the reply.
rignfool said:
I don't think that will work for a long time... I don't think at&t uses the same LTE... Uhhh... Channel?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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I'm looking at the wikipedia pages for at&t and t-mobile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
and in the radio frequency summary of at&t, I can see 1700/2100 MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G with LTE protocol, and T-mobile has 1700MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G LTE as well, but that's "building out", which means that band isn't available everywhere (I think i recall hearing that T-mobile was starting to change their frequencies around 2013).Also, I'm not certain if T-mobile allows the use of their 4G LTE on their SIM card no-contract plans.
Here's a List of the similar bands for T-mobile and at&t:
at&t: 2G, 1900MHz [band not listed], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
t-mobile: 2G, 1900MHz [2], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
at&t: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 42Mbit/s
at&t: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ -this is from the failed acquisition of T-mobile by at&t, will last for 7 years
-interesting to note that T-mobile "Has marketed 3G HSPA+ as "4G" since 2010" (from the T-mobile wiki entry on the 1700MHz band notes)
at&t: 4G, 1700 MHz AWS [4], LTE
T-mobile: 4G, 1700/2100 MHz AWS [4], LTE
So I'm wondering if maybe the "4G" you get is T-mobile's 3G HSPA+ 42Mb/s? Wanna share your APN settings if you're getting all that good stuff already?
Also, what's your plan on Simple Mobile, and how much is it costing?
projectisaac said:
I'm looking at the wikipedia pages for at&t and t-mobile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
and in the radio frequency summary of at&t, I can see 1700/2100 MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G with LTE protocol, and T-mobile has 1700MHz AWS on band 4 for 4G LTE as well, but that's "building out", which means that band isn't available everywhere (I think i recall hearing that T-mobile was starting to change their frequencies around 2013).Also, I'm not certain if T-mobile allows the use of their 4G LTE on their SIM card no-contract plans.
Here's a List of the similar bands for T-mobile and at&t:
at&t: 2G, 1900MHz [band not listed], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
t-mobile: 2G, 1900MHz [2], GSM/GPRS/EDGE
at&t: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 1900MHz PCS [2], UMTS/HSPA+ 42Mbit/s
at&t: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
t-mobile: 3G, 850MHz CLR [5], UMTS/HSPA+ -this is from the failed acquisition of T-mobile by at&t, will last for 7 years
-interesting to note that T-mobile "Has marketed 3G HSPA+ as "4G" since 2010" (from the T-mobile wiki entry on the 1700MHz band notes)
at&t: 4G, 1700 MHz AWS [4], LTE
T-mobile: 4G, 1700/2100 MHz AWS [4], LTE
So I'm wondering if maybe the "4G" you get is T-mobile's 3G HSPA+ 42Mb/s? Wanna share your APN settings if you're getting all that good stuff already?
Also, what's your plan on Simple Mobile, and how much is it costing?
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That. That's what I meant. APN settings came on the phone's SIM:
Enter name: Simple
APN: simple
Proxy:
Port:
Username:
Password:
Server:
MMSC: http://smpl.mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy:
MMS Port:
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
Authentication type:
APN type: default,supl,mms
APN Protocol: IPv4
APN Roaming Protocol: IPv4
Bearer: Unspecified
MVNO Type: None.
Currently have Unlimited Talk, Text, 4g Data (up to 3 GB per month, then down to 3G speeds) for $50.
Thanks! And that's one helluva plan. I'm thinking I might go and do that if the $30/mo plan shows I have good coverage up here in the Northlands. A pity you're not getting the true 4G LTE service though, but I suppose T-mobile's 4G is pretty freakin' fast (HSPA+ 42Mb/s is pretty nice). Thanks for sharing the APN!
Hi,
What LTE bands are supported for Galaxy S5 SM-G900F International version?
For USA T-mobile and ATT I could find the info at
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900TZKATMB
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900AZKAATT
T-Mobile LTE Bands : 1/2/3/5/7/8/4/17
ATT LTE Bands : 1/2/3/4/5/7/17
Where to find info for SM-G900F?
Thanks
yoonus said:
Hi,
What LTE bands are supported for Galaxy S5 SM-G900F International version?
For USA T-mobile and ATT I could find the info at
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900TZKATMB
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900AZKAATT
T-Mobile LTE Bands : 1/2/3/5/7/8/4/17
ATT LTE Bands : 1/2/3/4/5/7/17
Where to find info for SM-G900F?
Thanks
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Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F:
LTE: 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600
I guess it depends on which country you're in to determine what band applies. Those are the associated frequencies though.
Christopher3712 said:
Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F:
LTE: 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600
I guess it depends on which country you're in to determine what band applies. Those are the associated frequencies though.
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The international Samsung phones have yet to support america's LTE bands. I was really hoping that the Octa version would finally have worldwide LTE, but it turns out neither of the international S5 versions support LTE 4 or 17 (used on AT&T/TMo)
More than likely AT&T's way of forcing people to buy their version instead. This way people can't root, flash roms, or tether w/o a plan.
US variants and the I model ( Aussie model ) are the only ones that are LTE supported and are now pretty much all bootloader locked. Also all international models all come factory/carrier/bootloader unlocked too. Ive just moved here not long ago and dont really care for LTE so got my last 2 phones outside the country. I didnt realize about the bootloader lock until I got my S5 from ATT so Im hoping someone comes up with a method to unlock it.
xxhorseriderxxx said:
The international Samsung phones have yet to support america's LTE bands. I was really hoping that the Octa version would finally have worldwide LTE, but it turns out neither of the international S5 versions support LTE 4 or 17 (used on AT&T/TMo)
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Octa Version (G900H) doesn't have 4G LTE, only 3G. I have one of that here in Brazil.
canadian version
Looks like the Canadian version SM-G900W8 supports 8 LTE bands - which is all exept for the 800mhz (very common in Europe).
just google SM-G900WZKABMC-techspecs (cant post links)
Does your phone have to support every band a carrier uses for lte for you to be able to use lte on that network?
My s5 supports 5 of the 7 lte bands that att uses. Will I not be able to use lte at all with my phone?
Jayman007 said:
Does your phone have to support every band a carrier uses for lte for you to be able to use lte on that network?
My s5 supports 5 of the 7 lte bands that att uses. Will I not be able to use lte at all with my phone?
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AT&T operates LTE in band 2 (1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 17(700).
The T-Mobile bootloader is NOT locked and supports all the bands of AT&T and more. Plus, 900F roms work well on it if you keep the TMO modem.
So is it just a matter of changing the modems to get lte working on AT&T and T-Mobile with the 900F?
I just put a straight talk SIM (AT&T network) in my phone and I am reporting lte on my phone and getting download speeds of 15mbps +.
Jayman007 said:
So is it just a matter of changing the modems to get lte working on AT&T and T-Mobile with the 900F?
I just put a straight talk SIM (AT&T network) in my phone and I am reporting lte on my phone and getting download speeds of 15mbps +.
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No. I don't think that the 900F has all the AT&T and TMO bands so it would be hit and miss at best.
And you want the modem designed for the device because it will utilize whatever bands that device is capable of using.
If you are close to a cell tower, 4g can do 15. I'm close to a cell tower here at work and my LTE can get 58 down.
gspears said:
The T-Mobile bootloader is NOT locked and supports all the bands of AT&T and more. Plus, 900F roms work well on it if you keep the TMO modem.
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Does that mean you can just stick an AT&T sim card into a T-Mobile S5 and have all the same capabilities as the AT&T S5, and more (like an unlocked bootloader)?
phoneturf said:
Does that mean you can just stick an AT&T sim card into a T-Mobile S5 and have all the same capabilities as the AT&T S5, and more (like an unlocked bootloader)?
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Almost. When you receive the G900T it will be locked to the T-Mobile network (unless you specifically buy one that is unlocked) so you do have to get it SIM Unlocked first. This allows you to use it on any GSM network. I paid 20 bucks online because no one has figured out how to unlock it for free yet.
After that I installed Omega rom but kept the latest TMO modem. It works perfectly. I got 58 down on LTE at work the other day.
Any idea how to get it to connect to the 4G/LTE network with SM-G900F
Band 3
carrier subscriber to 4g Yes
Apn configured Yes
Screenshots:
From gsmarena.com (a great site for background info):
Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
Samsung SM-G900W8 for Canada
NETWORK Technology
GSM / HSPA / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800) - SM-G900F
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 17(700) - SM-G900A
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 17(700) - SM-G900M
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700) - SM-G900T
unable to connect to 3G, 4G network
I'm using Samsung galaxy S5 SM-G900F in Pakistan, my problem is that i use 3G and 4G services in Islamabad(Capital of Pakistan) and Rawalpindi (twin city of capital) my S5 works fine but whenever i go around the country, i'm unable to use 3G or 4G services. Its continuously show me that i'm connected with 2G network or EDGE enable network. i've done everything(updating- from 5.0.1 to 6.0.1, resetting, carrier switching,some other freaking tweaks) , bandwidth also the supported with carrier network. i'm tired with this seriously....:crying::crying:
PLEASE HELP ME OUT of this Problem....