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So I just had to do initialize a warranty replacement for my phone due to the 'creaking' some people reported involving the corner of the phone. I just don't want to risk it getting worse or me being annoyed to no end because of it so I figured do it sooner than later.
Anyway, I called today because I assumed that the same policy that governed the Galaxy Nexus applied (You have two weeks from the date you get the phone to do a clean-and-clear replacement of the device for warranty issues anything after that requires mailing out for repair.)
However, the guy I talked to tells me that this warranty is different than the Samsung. Like with purchasing a phone through a carrier, if your phone has any problem covered by the warranty, they will replace the device no matter how long it's been since you purchased it (so long as it is still within the 1-year warranty)
I have to say I am so so very pleased to see this! My greatest fear with buying the phone is that if something went wrong I would have to mail it out and be without a phone for several weeks like was the case with the Galaxy Nexus. I figured since so many people have no shortage of complaints about the device I would share something that has very much improved!
Is this warranty through your carrier or LG?
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Redmed427 said:
Is this warranty through your carrier or LG?
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I was thinking Google.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Wow that sounds pretty great. About the one thing Google got right about this whole process lol. Sounds like they were expecting lots of returns.
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ohhdavid said:
I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Where is this policy published?
That's good news. I am getting my phone this week but I'm too busy with work related stuff that needs to be completed before I fly out to Europe for vacation until mid. January.
I was afraid of discovering an issue when on vacation and getting screwed just because I cannot receive a new phone and send in the old one. No need to worry I guess.
The 'hold to cross-ship' replacement policy has been in place since the Nexus One days, and is a great policy.
It's not actually THAT great. Everyone doesn't have $400 disposable at any given time. So say I don't have any money and my device breaks then I'm S.O.L.. That my friend is not okay. They can't put a hold on a card if there's no funds there.
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They also mention to contact them if a hold on a card is not feasible and they'll be able to work with you. I just had one done
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It's not actually THAT great. Everyone doesn't have $400 disposable at any given time. So say I don't have any money and my device breaks then I'm S.O.L.. That my friend is not okay. They can't put a hold on a card if there's no funds there.
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Never SOL on a legit RMA claim. .cross-ship is just a great option offered, especially if your phone is somewhat functional, you're not out of use at all while you get new unit. Besided it's not El Goog's fault you're broke.
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Yep the warranty through the play store is the only reason I didn't buy from elsewhere... Well that and the price. They always do advance replacement instead of having you ship the thing back on your own device and wait more than a month to get it back. It's one of the few things Google got right with their hardware selling venture. Unfortunately for me, I have terrible luck with replacements. Couldn't get an n7 that wasn't more borked than the previous one. My n10 has a very slight issue but the replacement has the worst screen I've ever seen. Didn't want to go through the hassle of endless card authorizations and shipping devices back and forth so I'm just going to keep it. My n4 has bad light bleed and half the screen is yellow so its replacement is on its way to me and I pray this one breaks my replacement curse. I wish they actually did some kind of qc on their replacement stock before shipping, especially given that critical buyers with problems are much more likely to scrutinize the replacement device once they have had a bad experience to begin with.
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This warranty system sounds great, but do they send a prepaid shipping label or is that from our own pockets?
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This warranty system sounds great, but do they send a prepaid shipping label or is that from our own pockets?
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Google supplies the shipping labels.
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wideasleep1 said:
Never SOL on a legit RMA claim. .cross-ship is just a great option offered, especially if your phone is somewhat functional, you're not out of use at all while you get new unit. Besided it's not El Goog's fault you're broke.
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well if it's just a hold then it doesnt havt't to be 400 bucks, it can just be a dollar and if you dont send in your phone then they charge for the one they sent out, im assuming?
like going to the gas station and how its a dollar until it runs through the system
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well if it's just a hold then it doesnt havt't to be 400 bucks, it can just be a dollar and if you dont send in your phone then they charge for the one they sent out, im assuming?
like going to the gas station and how its a dollar until it runs through the system
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The problem here is, people are far from honest. I see people here claiming fraud for a lot of things just to get something for free. Number one I've noticed are fraudulent warranty claims. Or selling a broken phone on ebay as working. Everybody lies.
Would Google really send out a phone for "free"? It only makes sense that they charge you for what it's worth. Think of it as a core charge when turning in an alternator or some high priced item for repair. You don't return it? It's your money you're losing.
I hope this is true because with my galaxy nexus they told I needed to contact samsung if it was a hardware problem because they only deal with software problems.So after I contacted samsung I had to ship my phone to them and waited 2 weeks get it replaced and I had no other phone to use because it was my 1st gsm phone after leaving Verizon so I could be contract free.So my 1st experience with them sucked.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Just to clarify on the last point.. You have 21 days to return it from the day you receive the email detailing how to order a replacement (sent by the rep you speak with on the phone) and so if your replacement takes 14 days to ship, 2 days to arrive you've only got 5 days left to get it back to them which is cutting it short. :/
Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the email says at the top.
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Okay so keep an open mind here guys.
I initiated an RMA last night and I fully intend to return my defective device, but the whole deal with them shipping you a new phone before you send yours back raises an interesting question.
What'd happen if you didn't send yours back and just kept the two? Obviously you'd be charged for both so there's no theft going on, but for those that wanted to purchase 2 and coul could only get one, could they theoretically 'buy' another device this way? It'd be unethical of course, you scamming (in a sense) a phone that countless people are trying to get their hands on, but no more unethical than those scalpers on eBay. They say you have 21 days to return it otherwise your card will be charged, so this could be a very sneaky method of beating the queue.
Like I said before it's unethical and I don't intend to do it, but for those that want a second device for their partner or for someone else... Food for thought I suppose.
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Okay so keep an open mind here guys.
I initiated an RMA last night and I fully intend to return my defective device, but the whole deal with them shipping you a new phone before you send yours back raises an interesting question.
What'd happen if you didn't send yours back and just kept the two? Obviously you'd be charged for both so there's no theft going on, but for those that wanted to purchase 2 and coul could only get one, could they theoretically 'buy' another device this way? It'd be unethical of course, you scamming (in a sense) a phone that countless people are trying to get their hands on, but no more unethical than those scalpers on eBay. They say you have 21 days to return it otherwise your card will be charged, so this could be a very sneaky method of beating the queue.
Like I said before it's unethical and I don't intend to do it, but for those that want a second device for their partner or for someone else... Food for thought I suppose.
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Well they would get to keep the money they put on hold, and charge you for full shipping.
They would also probably black list you as a customer, so you could never order from them again.
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Just to clarify on the last point.. You have 21 days to return it from the day you receive the email detailing how to order a replacement (sent by the rep you speak with on the phone) and so if your replacement takes 14 days to ship, 2 days to arrive you've only got 5 days left to get it back to them which is cutting it short. :/
Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the email says at the top.
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No, it's from the date you received the replacement. Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the e-mail says.
UNDERSTANDING CREDIT CARD AUTHORIZATION (NOT A CHARGE)
An authorization for the full price of the replacement device will be placed on your credit card when you place the order in step one. This means that a portion of your card’s credit limit is held for several days, but no charge is made if your original device arrives at our repair center no longer than 21 days from the date of receiving your replacement device is verified to be covered under warranty.
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I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct thread, however given the nature that it is relevant to the general discussion of the Nexus 5 I'm going to post it in here anyway.
Do not shop at Carphone Warehouse UK
So I bought my Nexus 5 on release day from the Carphone Warehouse. I paid £295. When I got it home to my annoyance it wouldn't charge, no matter what I did it would not charge. I'm pretty experienced with phones and could tell it was a hardware error. I use my phone primarily for business, so being without a phone is completely a no-go for me. I took my Nexus 5 back to Carphone Warehouse on the assumption that they would just do a straight swap, however no they didn't have any stock in.. which is where my trouble started.
They offered me an alternative phone, they recommended the LG G2 as it only had a price difference of £150 and for some stupid reason, I went for it. The device I received was in an OPEN BOX (my mistake, I admit) that has had promotional stickers ripped off, however the phone inside was sealed, and so I assumed there was no issue. Got the phone home, start using it and discover that the phone is getting hot and crashing, this is as soon as I've got it out of the box.. so it's not like I've done anything to it or used it too much.
Anyway took it back to Carphone Warehouse the following day. By this point I was quite annoyed because the store that I purchased it from is a 60.8 Mile round trip. Due to my working hours I can't go to my local one, which closes at 5PM. The store I got the G2 from closes at 8PM, making it the only store I can get to that is open. I took the phone in and spoke to a lady on the Checkout about the issue and she said that an exchange was no problem and that more importantly, they had the Nexus 5 in stock. We initiated the exchange when she checked the IMEI. At this point she said she needed to speak to her manager. After around 5 minutes of waiting and her taking my phone in the back with her, she comes back and says to me 'I'm sorry Sir, we cannot exchange this phone as YOU have taken this phone and swapped it for an identical one with a different IMEI number. Our system shows you should have a different phone'
Quite astounded at what she had told me, I explained to her that I had only just purchased the phone the previous morning. She wouldn't have any of it and sent me away with an 0845 number to call to make a complaint. On the way home I called into another Carphone Warehouse store. I spoke to a lady who called Customer Services on behalf of me to find out how this issue could have occurred. To put it plain and simple, the IMEI on the box of the phone was the same as the one on the system, but the phone I had had an alien IMEI. After she spoke to Customer Services the lady told me that unfortunately they couldn't do anything from their store because, get this, the phone I had was being sent off for a repair. I would have to take it back to the original store, the same store that just fobbed me off, in order to get it exchanged. And this was head office that told me this!
The following day I spoke to customer services myself. I rung up and lodged a complaint because I believe the fact that I was accused of committing fraud but am also expected to drive 60 Miles to resolve a problem is disgusting. I spoke to a lady called Amy who "promised" me she would get to the bottom of this for me and resolve it. She told me that she could see from notes put on the account (presumably from the previous days call to cs) that the phone was a repair handset. She then spoke to the repairs team who confirmed they were waiting for the handset to arrive. She told me that she wouldn't be able to resolve the issue until she had spoken to the store I originally bought the handset from. She then "promised" to call me back as soon as she had spoken to them, or by 5PM the same day.
For records, this was on the 6th November.
5PM came, and no call. Because she called me on an 0800 number and wouldn't give me a number to contact her on, I was unable to call her myself. However the following morning (7th November) she called me and told me that she had still been unable to get in contact with the store in question and that she would definitely have this fixed for me by the evening and that she would call me back by 5PM. Well 5PM came and went, and there was no call. By this point I was extremely annoyed. The following morning there was no call either, so I called CPW on my mobile (which has charged me) and requested to speak to Amy. By this point it was on the third day of being without a working handset and nobody had really acknowledged there was an issue, or done anything to solve it. I actually managed to get put through to Amy who told me that she had still not been able to get through to the store, but that her manager was in in 20 minutes and she would call me back with a resolution to the issue. I asked her if she would 100% call me back, and she promised she would. 24 hours passed and no call.
So by this point I've been without a handset for 4 days, been sold a second hand one, promised that I will have a call from customer services to resolve it but haven't, and been accused of fraud. Getting quite angry at this point.
I allowed a few days to go by to see if Amy would get in contact with me, however by Monday 11th November she still hadn't. We took the phone to the Trafford Centre store which is still a good 25 miles away. We spoke to a very helpful gentleman in the Carphone Warehouse store who went to a lot of trouble for me. He spoke to head office who reiterated the fact that the phone was a repair handset and advised the gentleman to call the store I bought the phone from. He called the store and spoke to the manager. He confirmed that the IMEI on the box of the phone I had was in store, and that there had been a bit of a mess up and he was unsure of how it had happened. I was then told that unfortunately due to the circumstances of the issue I would have to drive to the other store, a further 10 miles, to initiate the exchange OR refund.
So finally just under a week of being without a phone and driving from my house to Manchester every other day the issue was resolved and I would be able to go back to a Nexus 5 or get a refund. Hell, wasn't I wrong.
On arrival at the store we spoke to the manager who told us we had two options, either swap the LG G2 for another LG G2, or get a cheaper handset. He couldn't offer us a refund because he would have to speak to customer services who were closed, and he wasn't prepared to knock the difference off a HTC One (£50) due to all the problems we had had. Furthermore the sim-free price of a Nexus 5 at Carphone is now £495, however they are not selling them sim-free at the moment! I was then told that I could have a refund, but I would have to come back the following day!! All this after driving probably in excess of 200 miles.
I felt backed into a corner and didn't really have a choice but to accept the G2. As I said earlier I need a handset for work and it's not an option for me to be without one.
I then spoke to the complaints department of Carphone Warehouse once again yesterday. I explained everything that I have just said in this post, and their reply:
"We do not offer refunds on any sim-free products, and the manager was wrong to tell you that we do. Because you accepted the G2 there is nothing we can do for you. You chose to drive there on your free will. Would you like me to raise your complaint against the store?"
:good: Not happy.
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If something's not working properly, here's what to do
Pop into any Carphone Warehouse store with:
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Preferably its original packaging
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We'll take a look at it, and if we can't fix it there and then, you'll be eligible for a return, exchange or repair. You can find out more about our repairs service on our repairs page.
Lots of common phone problems can be fixed with a simple software update, which you can do yourself. Check out our page and see how.
So now I really do not know what to do. I have been left with a phone that I do not want and am considerably out of pocket due to fuel costs of driving to get the issue resolved. Help?
Never get upset with them, for starters. It's difficult, I know from extensive experience, but their hands are tied to within their policies and they won't want to help if you tell them off like they probably deserve.
This is how I've played these games and won countless times.
Politely calmly ask:
"So, there is nothing you can do?"
"No, I'm sorry sir, there isn't"
"What is your employee ID#, who is your superior, and how do I contact them? I'd like to pass on a good work for your efforts"
Rinse, repeat. Insist to pass to a superior. They'll tell you nobody can help. Tell them you feel like you deserve to hear it from their boss.
I once had a vp with Sprint (verified that they really were via background checks: on the phone with me to resolve an issue by asking "Well, if you can't help me, someone can approve this. Who can?"
Just keep climbing the ladder.
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That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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setspeed said:
That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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I don't blame you, going to try my luck again later with their complaints department. I will update the thread. I think a lot of it depends on who you speak to as well, it's not necessarily speaking to a manager that matters, it's speaking to someone that can relate to your experience.
Good luck, I hope you end up with a decent resolution, but I fear that even if you were to get the phone you want, all the extra money you gave them and spent on petrol is lost. I really wanted an N5 on release day and I even went to my local CPW to take a look at them - thank God they weren't selling the 32GB because I would've bought it there and then. It might've taken a few days longer from Google, but at least I know they won't jerk me around if I have to return it (I returned my N4 last year because I didn't like it enough to keep it over my S3, no issues with refund at all).
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I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
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I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
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Oh no I completely agree with you there! Sorry I meant you multi-quote. I mean the gateway though, I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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Good advice here. I would also get the credit card company involved.
You did pay by credit card didn't you? If not, silly billy.
This is a good way of dragging someone else into the fray on your side and applying pressure on recalcitrant suppliers.
I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
I suppose the service you get depends on which store you go to :/
Also i have to ask...
You got a sim free phone meaning you would have already had another working phone/sim?
Why didnt you just wait for the nexus 5 to get back into stock again? :/
Also looking at your sig...
Why didnt you stick with the Z1?
I'm not defending CPW as the issue you're having is tragic.
But at the same time you made numerous mistakes yourself and undoubtedly made things harder..for yourself.
The first being not waiting for the N5 to get back in stock again from that specific retailer or asking them to find a store where it was in stock and doing an exchange there.
The second, getting a phone you did NOT want and paying an EXTRA £150 for it. You do acknowledge this was an open box and you were still in a position to run the risk that it did not behave as intended. Which unfortunately it did.
Glad you got that IMEI stuff fixed, that was BS on their part. Handy Gentleman at trafford to the rescue! Oh yeah, Thirdly, you were wasting your time with Amy, She was clearly incompetent at her job, producing no results every time you waited for her and continued to wait for her again.
Driving up and down in excess of xx miles is another issue when you could have made the alternative and smarter decision of calling the individual store up. Each CPW store has a different phone number which you can find on the website. Only till you're guaranteed that you can have an exchange or whatever you had desired, you could have popped in. Had that particular store failed to assist you, you wouldn't have to drive back achieving nothing but wasted petrol.
Oh yeah, when you finally spoke to the manager, you conceded and accepted another LG G2, may I reiterate, as you said. A phone you did NOT want. So customer Service was closed but you still had the opportunity for a full refund. Again, why not wait till it was open. [I get it, driving issues but that shouldn't stop you if it causes more 'driving issues' later]
The issue is, you don't wait for things and you take the easiest most convenient option at the time but at the end of the day it's the one you don't like, so you wish-wash out of it and things become more complicated.
The IMEI was unfortunate and yes, incredibly annoying. But that got resolved. The faulty handset is by no means the direct fault of CPW. And you did have a choice in regards to accepting the G2, I really don't see how you're playing the victim card in this aspect with that. In terms of work, you could have used a temp phone in the mean time, nothing fancy, an old nokia could have done the job if you need to make calls. You already had a sim if I'm correct. I figure the refund for the Nexus 5 was not an option the moment you opted for the G2 as that phone supersedes the N5 in terms of pricing. I figure what you want now is a refund for the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 at the £295 pricepoint from CPW that it once had? I don't think that's a realistic expectation anymore mate. At best just accept the refund for the LG G2. The N5 window is gone.
An alternative If you still want the Nexus 5 would be selling your LG G2, boxed and unopen, I hope and buying a N5 at the play store.
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I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
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No, it isn't a realistic demand because once you bought the LG G2, that became a stand alone product independent from any attachment with the N5. Quite simply you have you're head attached to the idea that the Nexus 5 is your main phone from CPW and that the LG G2 is a temp / secondary / repair or whatever. Once you chose the G2, you made your bed, that's where all the concern now lies.
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I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
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Also, this is a clear example that the CPW system does not fail with returns. Ahhhhhhhhh Now I'm contradicting the first sentence in this post. But the problem does not lie with them completely as you make it out.
Hi guys,
On May 2013, I've ordered UMI X2 from chinapadmall for €237.8 (=
323.39 USD). Actually first I ordered it from Pandawill (great website, great service) but I canceled the order because one day later I saw on CHINAPADMALL.COM "UMI X2 Turbo version" (With MTK6589T instead of MTK6589) and ordered from there. Of course CHINAPADMALL.COM lied to let people like me buy from them. There was actually no Turbo version available at that time.
Two months later I received standard version of UMI X2 (not the Turbo version of course) with defects: screen had bright annoying dot on it and I couldn’t transfer data from phone to pc, and contacted CHINAPADMALL to inform them about defects and asked what to do next. They told me to send the device back for replacement. They wouldn’t return my money back. So I had no other choice and did what they said. (paid:
25+ EURO = (34 USD) to send it back)
Two months later, package was arrived to their local post office. I sent a lot of e-mails to CHINAPADMALL to inform them about arrived package and to ask them to go and pick it up, but they never did. Post office could also not deliver the package. After two unsuccessful deliveries, China Post decided to ship the package back to me. In november 2013, I recieved the package. Then I contacted CHINAPADMALL again to let them know that I was disapointed (like they gave a **** about my disappointment) about their customer service and that I have to send it to them for the second time if they are going to be more responsible. They said that I can send it for the second time if I would like to. So I paid again 25+ EURO's (34 USD) to send it.
Package arrived this month (2014) at their local post office.
When I saw that on tracking website, I sent e-mail to CHINAPADMALL to inform them and to tell them to be more responsible this time. They told me that they will pick it up as soon as they can.
Luckily, few days later they had the package.
In total I lost +- 390 USD (+- 290 EUR) and more than 7 months time, and didn't use the device once. Now for that money I could buy octa-core phone or one of the best branded powerfull smartphones from trusted Chinese stores.
I’m still asking CHINAPADMALL to refund my money or send me a new phone, but they are not responding to it. Only yesterday they said short:
“If we replace new device for you, then how to do with this old device. We can not re-sell it after repaired it.”
Normaly, if you buy a product from somewere, and product is broken or whatever, you bring it back to the shop where you bought it within one week or 14 days and get your money back or get replaced gadget. That is exactly what I did, I sent it within few days back to them. Which seller is going to say something like: ‘What the hell I’m supposed to with broken device’? NOT A SINGLE SHOP WILL SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. But CHINAPADMALL did.
You can read on their website below on the page ‘Guarantee policy’:
5) How about the refund policy?
Second, For the problems caused by Chinapadmall, We will issue a complete or partial refund for the items if the clients do not agree on replacement or repairing. The problems include quality problem, mal function or miss delivery.......Please be noticed that all Chinapadmall products have 7 days return period (from client receiving the package to the client returning us) before being non-eligible for complete or partial refund. Please contact our customer service or live Support as soon as you find any problem after you receiving the products to avoid any postpone of better solution.
That’s exactly what I did. But they don’t give a **** about customers. Refunding?? They will not even talk about refunding. They don't even want to replace the device even they claimed to do it before, in their e-mails.
So what they have written there is just bull****. They don't want to respond to my e-mails with good arguments. Because they know that they can’t answer.
I want my money back because I never used this phone, or I want to chose for the price I paid other smartphone from their website.
Today I got e-mail that, they sent broken UMI X2 to factory to fix it. Again, I don't want fixed old phone. I had never chance to use it because It was traveling the world for 6-7 months. Even if I had, device is defect from the box.
So dear friends, NEVER EVER BUY ANYTHING FROM LIARS AND CHEATERS, FROM CHINAPADMALL(.)COM !!!
If you receive defect product from them, you will never be able to replace it and you will never be able to get your money back. Be informed.
Sorry for my bad English, but I think you'll understand my message.
And I would be very thankful if somebody can help me to get my money back..
Wow, sorry man. Was a working device finally sent to you??
I also ordered my UMI X2 through chinapadmall. My "gorilla glass" is now broken, and my GPS and 3G are faulty, but I think that these issues are UMI X2-related issues...
Dear friends... Never ever buy a Chinese smartphone in the first place.
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Okay guys,
I have a 2014 Moto X that I bought brand new at best buy about 7 months ago for cash when my phone broke and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade or had insurance. Now it's suddenly not booting past the little globe animation. I've tried various ROMs, kernels, flashing it back to stock, you name it and no matter what it just won't boot past the damn globe.
So I go to the Motorola site to start the warranty replacement process.... They can't find my device on file whenever I enter the IMEI/MEID and request a copy of my receipt... Which I cannot find. I tried contacting Best Buy thinking they could pull the receipt by the IMEI but according to customer service that isn't something they can do since I paid cash.
Do any of you guys know who I can contact about getting a warranty replacement? My carrier (sprint) doesn't want to help me since I bought the phone with cash outside of my contract and claim they can't verify the warranty term because of that, best buy won't give me a receipt since I paid cash, and Moto won't help me without a receipt. I'm at the end of my rope here and would really like to get this phone replaced under warranty and not have to pay more for the replacement than I did for the original phone (the supervisor in the cell phone Dept discounted it to $49.99 just to get rid of it)
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Okay guys,
I have a 2014 Moto X that I bought brand new at best buy about 7 months ago for cash when my phone broke and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade or had insurance. Now it's suddenly not booting past the little globe animation. I've tried various ROMs, kernels, flashing it back to stock, you name it and no matter what it just won't boot past the damn globe.
So I go to the Motorola site to start the warranty replacement process.... They can't find my device on file whenever I enter the IMEI/MEID and request a copy of my receipt... Which I cannot find. I tried contacting Best Buy thinking they could pull the receipt by the IMEI but according to customer service that isn't something they can do since I paid cash.
Do any of you guys know who I can contact about getting a warranty replacement? My carrier (sprint) doesn't want to help me since I bought the phone with cash outside of my contract and claim they can't verify the warranty term because of that, best buy won't give me a receipt since I paid cash, and Moto won't help me without a receipt. I'm at the end of my rope here and would really like to get this phone replaced under warranty and not have to pay more for the replacement than I did for the original phone (the supervisor in the cell phone Dept discounted it to $49.99 just to get rid of it)
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Without your receipt, there is nothing you can do. When you pay in cash it's important not to loose the receipt because there is no record of when you purchased it other than the receipt they give you during the purchase. Sorry but you will have to pay for the repair yourself since you don't have a receipt.
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Without your receipt, there is nothing you can do. When you pay in cash it's important not to loose the receipt because there is no record of when you purchased it other than the receipt they give you during the purchase. Sorry but you will have to pay for the repair yourself since you don't have a receipt.
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Yeah, that's what I figured was going to happen. I know I didn't throw the damn thing away, I just have to figure out where I left it. It's frustrating that best buy can't look it up by the IMEI though... Or rather, I KNOW that they can and they just won't. When I worked for at&t, we had incidents involving warranty claims where someone would scream and yell about their phone only being six months old but they bought it at best buy with cash, and we were able to call them and have them look it up by the IMEI (most of the time it was a few months out of warranty and the customer knew it) but when I said that on the phone, BB customer service said they've "changed their retail system since then", which I know is a load of BS, they just want me to come buy another phone.
agentfusion said:
Yeah, that's what I figured was going to happen. I know I didn't throw the damn thing away, I just have to figure out where I left it. It's frustrating that best buy can't look it up by the IMEI though... Or rather, I KNOW that they can and they just won't. When I worked for at&t, we had incidents involving warranty claims where someone would scream and yell about their phone only being six months old but they bought it at best buy with cash, and we were able to call them and have them look it up by the IMEI (most of the time it was a few months out of warranty and the customer knew it) but when I said that on the phone, BB customer service said they've "changed their retail system since then", which I know is a load of BS, they just want me to come buy another phone.
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I used to work for best buy about 6 years ago. They can't look it up by IMEI. The EMEI is not connected to the receipt. It's not that they don't want to, they really can't.
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I know this is a bit of thread necromancy (not too bad since it's only a few months old) but I've resolved the issue just in time.
I thought I had lost or thrown away the receipt, but it turns out I had apparently used it as a bookmark for a book I was reading in a doctor's office the same day I purchased the phone and I just decided to finish the book yesterday, took it off my bookshelf and TADA! THERE'S THE RECEIPT!!
I've taken a picture of it and was able to finally proceed with the warranty process and just received an email from moto telling me that my claim has been changed from "on hold" to "open" after being reviewed.
The purpose of this reply is twofold; 1) so I can definitively say that you cannot get a warranty claim through moto directly for no-contract devices without a receipt if they were purchased through another seller rather than straight from moto because they do NOT keep any sort of records that tell them whether or not it's still within the warranty term beyond the manufacture date, so if the phone was physically assembled more than a year ago, the warranty claim system will automatically tell you to provide proof of purchase, and 2) so I can mark this thread solved in case anyone else loses their proof of purchase and searches to see if there's anything you can do (there isn't) if you paid in cash
Whew. My warranty ends 7/17/2016 so I found it just in time!
AGISCI said:
I used to work for best buy about 6 years ago. They can't look it up by IMEI. The EMEI is not connected to the receipt. It's not that they don't want to, they really can't.
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Late reply, but THIS is absolutely correct. Though they used to be able to about 7-8 years ago, they have indeed changed their inventory system to having some sort of internal identifier. I've found the receipt, and it has a bunch of numbers for the device, but none of them are the IMEI,HEX,MEID, or even the retail SKU from the original box. There's literally nothing, when looking at the receipt, that would allow them to look up that particular sale just by providing the box.
Hi
Looking for some guidance - I am a private seller and do not run a shop. I sell my own things which are perfect working order and a buy as seen / no returns policy is indicated.
Anyway, I sold a Sony camera 4 weeks ago (in the UK) and the buyer took the camera on holiday (abroad) for a week and has returned saying there is a dead pixel and asked ebay to return it. Even though I said no returns, and proved there was nothing wrong with the camera before selling (enclosed a photo taken prior to sale), ebay have honoured the return!!! It has now been posted back and ebay have left it to me to get the camera inspected.
Come back for me - apparently none!
All I deduce is that the buyer changed her mind or damaged the camera in some way and decided to return it.
Where is my legal footing on this???
Ebay are crooks. They said if the camera comes back as no problem they will put a red mark on her account - in the meantime I'm out of pocket over £400 (which has since been spent). The hold is placed on the paypal account in the meantime.
I am thinking I'll try doing a visa chargeback or take ebay to small claims. Views?
thanks all
eBay is a buyer friendly market, there's really nothing you can do.
Are you 100% sure there isn't a dead pixel?
There was no dead Pixel as I had it checked by a local camera shop. The sensor was filthy and so was the body and the camera was returned damaged. Ebay have since agreed to cover the refund cost and I won't be out of pocket.
Interestingly they provide 30 days refund for buyers even if you as a private seller say "no return".
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If you are based in the UK too, and you know for a fact it was working perfectly fine, plus you had it stated as no returns.
If you have evidence of that, and Ebay basically tells you pay up or else, you can take it to a small claims court, because the buyer bought it on the basis of a no returns policy.
I would double check exactly whats in the Ebay ToS is though.
I hope that helps in some way.
I think the no returns only applies to auctions. If you sell it as a buy it now item you have to accept returns no matter what?
This is for Ebay, or use PayPal next time to help in the making a safe transaction....and or dispute.
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bonerp said:
Hi
Looking for some guidance - I am a private seller and do not run a shop. I sell my own things which are perfect working order and a buy as seen / no returns policy is indicated.
Anyway, I sold a Sony camera 4 weeks ago (in the UK) and the buyer took the camera on holiday (abroad) for a week and has returned saying there is a dead pixel and asked ebay to return it. Even though I said no returns, and proved there was nothing wrong with the camera before selling (enclosed a photo taken prior to sale), ebay have honoured the return!!! It has now been posted back and ebay have left it to me to get the camera inspected.
Come back for me - apparently none!
All I deduce is that the buyer changed her mind or damaged the camera in some way and decided to return it.
Where is my legal footing on this???
Ebay are crooks. They said if the camera comes back as no problem they will put a red mark on her account - in the meantime I'm out of pocket over £400 (which has since been spent). The hold is placed on the paypal account in the meantime.
I am thinking I'll try doing a visa chargeback or take ebay to small claims. Views?
thanks all
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