Stock LP - Multitask not smooth - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello there,
I'm experiencing a problem with my Moto G 2014 XT1068.
When I'm inside an app and tab the multitask button. The app shrinks to a certain size and then it jumps to the stack of running apps. This looks very unsmooth and buggy. I'm wondering if this is a problem with 5.0.2 or some kind of bug and if i;m the only one experiencing this problem.
Kind regards

5.0.2 has a memory leak and Moto G only has 1GB of RAM so the multitasking is not the best on our phone unfortunately.

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[Q] Asphalt 8 Crashing

In my new Moto G Indian dual sim bversion Asphalt 8 is sometimes crashing suddenly without any error message like 'Unfortunately Asphalt 8 stopped' etc. It's directly comes to the homescreen quitting the game all of a sudden... Is there any problem with the game or firmwire? I downloaded directly from PlayStore. Any same incident or help?
Did you try reinstalling it?
Sent from my Moto G running Carbon ROM 4.4.4
noeticdm said:
In my new Moto G Indian dual sim bversion Asphalt 8 is sometimes crashing suddenly without any error message like 'Unfortunately Asphalt 8 stopped' etc. It's directly comes to the homescreen quitting the game all of a sudden... Is there any problem with the game or firmwire? I downloaded directly from PlayStore. Any same incident or help?
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try freeing some space & clear cache
I did it.. Cleared cache and data too several times. Even did fresh reinstall from PlayStore. Same problem occurring again. Even sometimes just before the end of a race and coming 1st position game suddenly crashed. Total frustration! Space available a lot already!
noeticdm said:
I did it.. Cleared cache and data too several times. Even did fresh reinstall from PlayStore. Same problem occurring again. Even sometimes just before the end of a race and coming 1st position game suddenly crashed. Total frustration! Space available a lot already!
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Are you playing in High Specs or in the Recommended Medium one ?
Marakatu said:
Are you playing in High Specs or in the Recommended Medium one ?
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All spec.. Very low, low, high, medium.. same problem occurring.
noeticdm said:
All spec.. Very low, low, high, medium.. same problem occurring.
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That's really strange. Does someone else have the same issue with their Moto G 2nd ? I still can't test it because mine did not arrive yet. Hope to get it till next Monday.
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Marakatu said:
That's really strange. Does someone else have the same issue with their Moto G 2nd ? I still can't test it because mine did not arrive yet. Hope to get it till next Monday.
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I've just got a moto g (1 gen) LTE model running 4.4.4... from amazon in the UK. I thought I'd try Asphault 8 to test out the phone today. Crashes back to the homescreen with no message whatsoever from the menus, during loading and sometimes I can get it to just get into the game.. when I use task manager to got back into the game it just loads from the start again (Gameloft logo). I haven't actually been able to get through the tutorial at all. Medium (default) settings.
Any ideas?
i think ram management problem in the new moto g 2nd gen... I never have this problem on moto g(2013)
same
same problem tried it several times always crashes no matter what u do
same problem here is due to low ram clear ram before playing game.
Asphalt 8 not working for me too..
The same happening to me too..
you are right---"i think ram management problem in the new moto g 2nd gen"
This happens with the background apps also.. closes for no reason...
Yeah the problem exists.
Asphalt 8 does crash to main screen and many apps are closed in the background. Can someone tell what issue is that and how can that be handalled. Also Firefox and Chrome don't keep the tabs loaded in the background. The tabs reload even if you jump from tab to tab, which is very bad and inconvenient. If someone finds a solution please tell, waiting for reply.
All this problem have only 1 reason low ram problem try to free up ram before playing any game u always disable apps that you dont use like some motorola app to free up ram.
Clearing RAM is not a proper solution. It crashes even after that. In KK ram is cleared a=by automatic in built tasker. Anyway, after a much research and tinkling with my Moto G2 I finally came with a successful solution. Most of the time with high graphic most part like Dubai track with high speed car the chance of crashing suddenly is more. Moto G 2 has a serious RAM management problem. Hope this bug may be corrected in L update very soon. With smaller application it is not felt particularly.
Anyway, root your phone first. Install RAM manager (paid app) and any build.prop editor. First edit your build.prop section the VM Heap size to 512 mb and VM Heap growth limit 256 mb. No matter, due to less collection of paging garbage your battery backup should also increase a little. But your RAM potential will be utilised at fullest. Now go to ram manager set 'Hard Multitasking Mode' and clear memory with it before playing the game. Asphalt 8 will never crash!! Tested!!
noeticdm said:
Clearing RAM is not a proper solution. It crashes even after that. In KK ram is cleared a=by automatic in built tasker. Anyway, after a much research and tinkling with my Moto G2 I finally came with a successful solution. Most of the time with high graphic most part like Dubai track with high speed car the chance of crashing suddenly is more. Moto G 2 has a serious RAM management problem. Hope this bug may be corrected in L update very soon. With smaller application it is not felt particularly.
Anyway, root your phone first. Install RAM manager (paid app) and any build.prop editor. First edit your build.prop section the VM Heap size to 512 mb and VM Heap growth limit 256 mb. No matter, due to less collection of paging garbage your battery backup should also increase a little. But your RAM potential will be utilised at fullest. Now go to ram manager set 'Hard Multitasking Mode' and clear memory with it before playing the game. Asphalt 8 will never crash!! Tested!!
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I changed only build.prop as you write on my Moto G LTE (1 gen.) and now Asphalt 8 works fine. No more force close. Thanks!
I had this problems with asphslt 8 and other big games... I wont root until 5.0, but I hope motorola release an ota to fix thid ram bug...My 1st gen Moto G didnt have this bug
Same Problem.. But is Rooting the only solution
I am facing the same problem as GT racing 2 also force closes. and Real Racing 3 too tried several apps but i'm unable to run all the apps. what to do
asphalt 8 :airborne
I have installed Asphalt 8: Airborne on my XT1068 , and it runs smoothly with good graphics ( i didn't change any settings for graphics in the game )
the game crashed 2 times after installing , but it has worked fine ever since i rebooted the device once
my device is rooted but there is no optimization apps .
Real racing 3 also worked fine without a single crashed, since i haven't installed many apps there is always about 300mb RAm free
Asphalt 8 crash on Moto G2
I'm facing the exact same problem on my Moto G 2nd Gen. What do I do? I really want to play this game.

[Q] Have the RAM problems been fixed?

I owned a Moto G 4G, It had a problem with force closing apps, launcher redraws and the rest, some issue with managing RAM and killing apps. I bought a 2014 Moto G, same issue. Anyway I foolishly bought a Nokia 930 and am looking to go back to Android as cheaply as possible so am wondering if these issues got fixed with Lollipop?
They are a little better, but not completely gone.

[Q] Automated Reboot XT1097

I have an AT&T 2014 Moto X (XT1097) with Android 5.0.2. As many of you may be aware there is a memory leak bug. How can I make the phone automatically reboot at a specific time once per day so I don't have a slow down in performance due to the memory leak bug?

Apps closing by themselves

Just a quick question for everyone. My apps close by themselves in the background. WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger are the 2 worst perpetrators. I will stop receiving messages unless I open the app once every 15 minutes. If I forget, I'll open the app and suddenly get flooded with a ton of "new" messages.
This only started happening since 5.0. I've unlocked my bootloader and installed the Pure Edition 5.0.1 and then upgraded to 5.1 leak and have the same issue. I've wiped my phone and that does nothing. I don't think it's the memory leak glitch because I will have more than 1gb of RAM free when these problems are happening.
Is it a rogue setting in 5.0 that's causing these problems? Has anyone seen this before? I'm back on my 2013 Moto X temporarily until I figure this out, but I'd love to go back to my 2014 X.
Thanks everybody!
This is a known memory leak issue with 5.0. It's supposed to be fixed with 5.1 but I haven't had an update so I can't confirm. Music playing in the background and Bluetooth are issues for me.
ShensMobile said:
My apps close by themselves in the background.
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Same problem here. For me, the app which gets restarted most often is Nova Launcher. Rebooting the phone fixes this for some time (one or two days) but eventually it come back again
TriumphGuy said:
This is a known memory leak issue with 5.0. It's supposed to be fixed with 5.1
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This only started happening since 5.0. I've unlocked my bootloader and installed the Pure Edition 5.0.1 and then upgraded to 5.1 leak and have the same issue. I've wiped my phone and that does nothing. I don't think it's the memory leak glitch because I will have more than 1gb of RAM free when these problems are happening.
Is it a rogue setting in 5.0 that's causing these problems? Has anyone seen this before? I'm back on my 2013 Moto X temporarily until I figure this out, but I'd love to go back to my 2014 X.
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I agree with TriumphGuy and am pretty sure the source *is* the memory leak bug since the symptoms are the same.
BTW I will be very disapointed if this issue is confirmed not being fixed un the upcoming 5.1 official release

Z3C 5.02 stock Memory leak or something else?

I know that there was a memory leak issue with 5.02 but it's apparently fixed before the fw was deployed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/clarification-xperia-lollipop-fix-t3087240
So that doesn't help explain my issue. Very often, when I have any combination of Spotify + Google Maps, Spotify + Chrome, Chrome + Google Maps, etc open, the app that's in the background will just flat out close. It's stupidly annoying while driving when my music just dies, or when my navigation disappears and I miss my turns because I don't hear any audible alerts. The issue goes away after a fresh restart, and will come back usually within a day or two.
I did not have this issue on 4.4.4.
My free ram hovers around 500-600MB at all times.
RAM status today
RAM Status after fresh restart
I absolutely hate why nothing can be properly backgrounded like in iOS. The moment I press the home button or switch apps, all my open tabs in Chrome have to be reloaded. Filling out forms in a Chrome tab while referencing another app is almost impossible... This was actually an issue on 4.4.4 as well as 5.02. I have not found any way to fix this, no matter how many times I restart my phone. I don't think my old Galaxy S3 had this problem...
Why does Android make us work so hard for a properly working phone, if we can even have that at all? As a consumer I should not have to go through 7 levels of technical hell to make a phone work properly. This isn't Linux.
Sorry for the rant. Anyone know what I can do to fix this? Everyone says RAM clearing apps are bad. So that's not an option right?
.726 has this problem and as far as I can recall it was pretty serious. Fortunately in .26 the problem has been solved. It's about memory management in lollipop being poor rather than memory leak.
.26 hasn't been released for D5803 USA right? I don't see it in the firmware thread
Still doesn't explain the Chrome issue. Whenever anything is backgrounded (not closed) in Chrome, all my tabs have to be reloaded. Most of the time now, even just switching from one tab to the next within Chrome while it's open forces a refresh of the tab. WTF
I never had any memory leak issues with any of the firmwares. Try to turn off Stamina mode just to see if it is affecting (I have it off, and queue background data off as well). Make sure also you have not enabled Developer Options and checked the setting 'Don't keep activities' or some other setting that limit the amount of process you can have in the background.
Dev options are not enabled. And stamina only kicks in at 50% battery. I could turn off que data but does that have anything to do with RAM?
I just called Xperia tech support and they suggested I do this:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...uctions-using-Pc-Companion-Win-or/td-p/249946
Has anyone done this and fixed the issue?
I am apparently not the only one who has had this problem:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/356f80/z3c_502_stock_memory_leak_or_something_else/
There's an Xposed module called App Settings that lets you force the OS to keep stuff resident in memory. Because it's an Xposed module, I have no idea if it's compatible with LP or not. Also, there's a point where you can run out of memory and experience involuntary restarts if you keep too many apps resident. Still, it's worth trying, imo.
I was told that the memory leak wouldn't be fixed until 5.1 or even 5.1.1
726 did indeed have this problem. i used the xposed module for the memoryleak fix and it did indeed work...phone was much faster.
People are saying sony phones do not have the leak but the leak affects each phone in slightly different ways.
I the new .28 USA firmware running on my phone now and it is working rather well. granted i still have the lollipop memory fix module activated but i will do some testing with it off as well.
Nope, the problem is not solved in any lollipop firmware, atleast for me. I tried all the latest, reflash and wiped all (Included Internal Data) and the problem still here. Is Ridiculous how with 2GB RAM I can´t have atleast 4 apps opened without the preocupation of they get killed for itself. I remember with my Nexus 7 Tablet in Android 4.3 had a looot of apps opened and no one get killed itself, it was a great multitask experience that I can't get yet in Xperia Z3 Compact. I tried edit minfree values, uninstall apps, change firmwares, edit services.jar, install tweaks, edit my build.prop, etc. Also I noticed with the Task Manager of System Tuner app that "/system/bin/mediaserver" is always eating more than 60mb of Ram, this is since kitkat and continues to happen in Lollipop, after of some hours, this same process can take up to 160 - 200 mb of RAM!!! The worst thing is that in other devices this process don't seems to take a lot of Ram as in Z3 Compact did. Idk, it would be good that we can improve multitask in this device.
I compared the /system/bin/mediaserver usage with a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and it only takes 5 mb of RAM while in Xperia Z3 Compact it always start eating 50 mb of RAM and it increases up to 160 - 200 mb in some hours. You can see my proofs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60569610&postcount=9
So Idk what to do now, I hear that the only good devices that take importance in multitasking are HTC M9 (M8 and M7 too) and the Asus Zenphone because they merged their own patches to ART to improve a lot how multitasking is managed in android. I think sony do their devices to kill apps very agressive, so in this way they can presume that his device is more smooth than others but useless for multitasking. Weird...
iFlasher said:
Nope, the problem is not solved in any lollipop firmware, atleast for me. I tried all the latest, reflash and wiped all (Included Internal Data) and the problem still here. Is Ridiculous how with 2GB RAM I can´t have atleast 4 apps opened without the preocupation of they get killed for itself. I remember with my Nexus 7 Tablet in Android 4.3 had a looot of apps opened and no one get killed itself, it was a great multitask experience that I can't get yet in Xperia Z3 Compact. I tried edit minfree values, uninstall apps, change firmwares, edit services.jar, install tweaks, edit my build.prop, etc. Also I noticed with the Task Manager of System Tuner app that "/system/bin/mediaserver" is always eating more than 60mb of Ram, this is since kitkat and continues to happen in Lollipop, after of some hours, this same process can take up to 160 - 200 mb of RAM!!! The worst thing is that in other devices this process don't seems to take a lot of Ram as in Z3 Compact did. Idk, it would be good that we can improve multitask in this device.
I compared the /system/bin/mediaserver usage with a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and it only takes 5 mb of RAM while in Xperia Z3 Compact it always start eating 50 mb of RAM and it increases up to 160 - 200 mb in some hours. You can see my proofs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60569610&postcount=9
So Idk what to do now, I hear that the only good devices that take importance in multitasking are HTC M9 (M8 and M7 too) and the Asus Zenphone because they merged their own patches to ART to improve a lot how multitasking is managed in android. I think sony do their devices to kill apps very agressive, so in this way they can presume that his device is more smooth than others but useless for multitasking. Weird...
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Hmmm, idk. My GPE m8 on 5.1 is experiencing these same symptoms. Super annoying to have my music cut out in the middle of a workout. ?
I play with my food
I referring to HTC M7, M8 and M9 with Sense, because they get own HTC patches. Well, is what I hear, and also I see some tests in YouTube and the multitask is very good.
jerflash said:
726 did indeed have this problem. i used the xposed module for the memoryleak fix and it did indeed work...phone was much faster.
People are saying sony phones do not have the leak but the leak affects each phone in slightly different ways.
I the new .28 USA firmware running on my phone now and it is working rather well. granted i still have the lollipop memory fix module activated but i will do some testing with it off as well.
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Any feedback on how .28 is running compared to .726 with the xposed fix?
Like many, I uninstalled the fix after I read the thread pointing out that having it active was pointless as Sony had already fixed the memory leak themselves, but after reading your reply, I decided to reinstall and sure enough, my phone does seem snappier. Having read the changelog for .28, it didn't seem worth upgrading unless performance was noticeably better.
I will tell you im enjoying .28 with the fix running. There are enough fixes in there to make it worth it i think
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No issues on 23.1.A.0.726 here, I have averagely 250 MB more free RAM on Lollipop than on Kitkat, with all the same apps installed. :good:
Guys, the problem is not how many ram do you have, the problem is if you can multitask some apps without someone get killed. I can multitask within 2 or 3 apps sometimes, but I can't get more than that without someone gets killed...
It was to be expected that Lollipop in Sony devices would be problematic. For the time being, I prefer to stay in KitKat and then make the jump to 5.0.2.
framerper2 said:
It was to be expected that Lollipop in Sony devices would be problematic. For the time being, I prefer to stay in KitKat and then make the jump to 5.0.2.
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Lollipop on Xperia started off at 5.0.2
degraaff said:
Lollipop on Xperia started off at 5.0.2
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And nobody said otherwise. I said that I prefer staying in KitKat until the Lollipop update is better to making worth the jump

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