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White Nexus 4 is finally official

As if we didn't already know
LG Press Release

Thanks 4 this interesting new!!
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Black nexus 4 is sexier in my opinion

that's a panda not nexus my black one was soo better well before i sold it

Black is definitely sexier.
Though, I also read that LG won't make another nexus..

or change the backcover of my nexus to white would be cool ( mines already broke )

D4rkSoRRoW said:
Black is definitely sexier.
Though, I also read that LG won't make another nexus..
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Isn't currently making one. Not never making one again.

I was thinking of getting it for a long time now, upgrading from my white Gnex. However, the HTC one is looking mighty fine as well. Sense 5.0 vs Stock... Not pulling a trigger, just yet.

gideonMorrison said:
I was thinking of getting it for a long time now, upgrading from my white Gnex. However, the HTC one is looking mighty fine as well. Sense 5.0 vs Stock... Not pulling a trigger, just yet.
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it will be stock vs stock
cause there will be a stock version of galaxy s4 and htc one soon

Blackwolf10 said:
it will be stock vs stock
cause there will be a stock version of galaxy s4 and htc one soon
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Except the S4 looks horrible and has the worst colors, looney tunes style. So it's either N4 with stock or HTC One with Sense 5, which feels and looks a lot like stock android. The Google version of the One will feel like a Nexus phone, obviously. I usually hate OEM skins, but Sense 5.0 I could definitely live with.

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it will be stock vs stock
cause there will be a stock version of galaxy s4 and htc one soon
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But who wants to pay at least $300 more dollars for a stock HTC One without all the HTC camera software improvements? Might as well go get the HTC First (facebook phone) and remove facebook to use a stock phone, which is practically being given away for free now.

gideonMorrison said:
Except the S4 looks horrible and has the worst colors, looney tunes style. So it's either N4 with stock or HTC One with Sense 5, which feels and looks a lot like stock android. The Google version of the One will feel like a Nexus phone, obviously. I usually hate OEM skins, but Sense 5.0 I could definitely live with.
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i think specs wise it's the best though it looks like a frog
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facetubespam said:
But who wants to pay at least $300 more dollars for a stock HTC One without all the HTC camera software improvements? Might as well go get the HTC First (facebook phone) and remove facebook to use a stock phone, which is practically being given away for free now.
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it's for 850$ here but the specs beside the camera which i didn't like are awesome so that's the point of a stock one if u don't like sense get the stock one
and facebook phone really ?? might just get a galaxy s2 and flash latest CM10.1 is a better idea

Does mean we might see 4.3 soon?

TopazUser1 said:
Does mean we might see 4.3 soon?
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no just tells us we can have a panda like phone this reminds me of iphone 3G
but 4.3 we will get it soon cause it was expected

Nospin said:
Isn't currently making one. Not never making one again.
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No: http://gizmodo.com/this-is-lgs-white-nexus-4-but-it-wont-make-another-g-510070569

D4rkSoRRoW said:
No: http://gizmodo.com/this-is-lgs-white-nexus-4-but-it-wont-make-another-g-510070569
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No: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/28/4...id-tablet-announcement-non-android-smartphone

D4rkSoRRoW said:
No: http://gizmodo.com/this-is-lgs-white-nexus-4-but-it-wont-make-another-g-510070569
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No. CEO came out and said he was misquoted, and of course they would be happy to work with Google again.
So there.

It looks awful in white because there are too many black parts. That's the issue I have with most phone manufacturers that aren't Nokia. They never go "all-in" with their phone designs. They just half-ass it, including Apple.
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What an eyesore! I guess they bringing ugly back....smh
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facetubespam said:
But who wants to pay at least $300 more dollars for a stock HTC One without all the HTC camera software improvements? Might as well go get the HTC First (facebook phone) and remove facebook to use a stock phone, which is practically being given away for free now.
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I'm assuming the hardware will be the same, so you could just flash a sense ROM?
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Note 4 AOSP state

Just wondering how well does AOSP work so far for Note 4?
Do all features work without glitches? Are there still problems with Samsung not releasing drivers/documentation causing serious bugs and glitches? How is samsung-specific hardware (like S-Pen or fingerprint reader) functioning on AOSP builds?
I'm considering Note 4, but I want a phone with well working AOSP (for example Note 2 has a lot of issues, especially in Lollipop versions, presumably due to lack of Samsung's documentation).

Basic ly you lose all extra features with aosp
Crappy camera no pen. This is with all samsung phones
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I'm aware about loosing all fancy samsung S-Pen apps but how well does S-Pen work technically (does it support right-click via pen button for example? This feature got cut in Lollipop on N2 for some reason so I'm wondering if it works on N4).

matejdro said:
Just wondering how well does AOSP work so far for Note 2?
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You might want to ask this in the Note 2 section.
Racinghart91 said:
Basic ly you lose all extra features with aosp
Crappy camera no pen. This is with all samsung phones
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The camera is hardware........
If your talking about the Note 2 then probably. If your talking about the Note 4 then this is just more rubbish being posted to confuse people.
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I'm aware about loosing all fancy samsung S-Pen apps but how well does S-Pen work technically (does it support right-click via pen button for example? This feature got cut in Lollipop on N2 for some reason).
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Again two phone were mentioned and I have no idea which you are referring to. I'll assume Note 4 .
Everything works fine. Even camera and sPen. UHD recording works. Battery life is ok. You'll get around 12-18 hours of moderate usage. Of course you will loose TW features but you should already have known that. If you don't use action memo, S-health, S-whatever, KNOX or use the downsize app feature (Which nothing supports it anyways) then you will be fine.
EDIT: I forgot to mention. If you have another Samsung accessory like the Samsung Gear 2 then you don't want to use anything but TouchWiz. Samsung has locked out paying customers from using them on anything unless it is running BloatWiz, I mean TouchWiz.

Yeah I meant Note 4, I mistyped, sorry (edited my post above).
Thanks for the answer.
Also @airwa1kin7 does what you said apply to Kitkat roms or also to Lollipop ones?

matejdro said:
Yeah I meant Note 4, I mistyped, sorry (edited my post above).
Thanks for the answer.
Also @airwa1kin7 does what you said apply to Kitkat roms or also to Lollipop ones?
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Like KK AOSP?

Racinghart91 said:
Basic ly you lose all extra features with aosp
Crappy camera no pen. This is with all samsung phones
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S-pen works fine. FV-5 camera is great and UHD recording works fine. Currently the finger print sensor is not supported, but might be in future versions, most of the code is there already: Google pulled it at the last moment cause Apple bought the company but most was uploaded already, so it should be doalbe to support it.
Battery is the same as TW. ROM is stable, no crashes or weird bugs.
Anyway make sure you buy the snapdragon variant if you want AOSP: Exynos chipset is not yet supported and I'd say you'll see the Note 5 in the shops before the Note 4 Exynos AOSP is stable.

airwa1kin7 said:
Like KK AOSP?
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Yes.

matejdro said:
Yes.
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Haven't used a KK AOSP ROM yet. If i'm going to go through the painful process of using 4.4.4 I'll just use TW instead of AOSP. I've primarily just used LL AOSP ROMS.

gekkehenkie11 said:
S-pen works fine. FV-5 camera is great and UHD recording works fine. Currently the finger print sensor is not supported, but might be in future versions, most of the code is there already: Google pulled it at the last moment cause Apple bought the company but most was uploaded already, so it should be doalbe to support it.
Battery is the same as TW. ROM is stable, no crashes or weird bugs.
Anyway make sure you buy the snapdragon variant if you want AOSP.
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can you use air view/command/pointer action memos etc on aosp or just as stylus?

tmac31 said:
can you use air view/command/pointer action memos etc on aosp or just as stylus?
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Yeah. s-pen Air view/command just works as in TW. And you can link ejects of the s-pen to an action (like opening your favourite memo). However you can not select and copy/paste a part of the screen although it should be easy to write an app for it, maybe it even exists (it should just overlay the screen with your sketch and then copy/paste that area).

gekkehenkie11 said:
Yeah. s-pen Air view/command just works as in TW. And you can link ejects of the s-pen to an action (like opening your favourite memo). However you can not select and copy/paste a part of the screen although it should be easy to write an app for it, maybe it even exists (it should just overlay the screen with your sketch and then copy/paste that area).
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hmm maybe its possible to try on my 915f note edge too.

tmac31 said:
hmm maybe its possible to try on my 915f note edge too.
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Somebody was working on the edge. I remember some guy came into the IRC chat asking question about supporting the edge screen, I think it was a few weeks ago. Not sure if he succeeded though, als dont remember his name, sorry.

airwa1kin7 said:
Haven't used a KK AOSP ROM yet. If i'm going to go through the painful process of using 4.4.4 I'll just use TW instead of AOSP. I've primarily just used LL AOSP ROMS.
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Thanks. I assumed you used KK based on your signature but if everything already works on L, even better. I also don't care about KK if L works fine.

gekkehenkie11 said:
S-pen works fine. FV-5 camera is great and UHD recording works fine. Currently the finger print sensor is not supported, but might be in future versions, most of the code is there already: Google pulled it at the last moment cause Apple bought the company but most was uploaded already, so it should be doalbe to support it.
Battery is the same as TW. ROM is stable, no crashes or weird bugs.
Anyway make sure you buy the snapdragon variant if you want AOSP: Exynos chipset is not yet supported and I'd say you'll see the Note 5 in the shops before the Note 4 Exynos AOSP is stable.
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Is fv5 camera an app ? I really enjoyed your cm12 rom henkie. The only big problem for me was the camera quality.. so if there's a way that I could get the camera better I'm right back to your rom
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airwa1kin7 said:
You might want to ask this in the Note 2 section.
The camera is hardware........
If your talking about the Note 2 then probably. If your talking about the Note 4 then this is just more rubbish being posted to confuse people.
Again two phone were mentioned and I have no idea which you are referring to. I'll assume Note 4 .
Everything works fine. Even camera and sPen. UHD recording works. Battery life is ok. You'll get around 12-18 hours of moderate usage. Of course you will loose TW features but you should already have known that. If you don't use action memo, S-health, S-whatever, KNOX or use the downsize app feature (Which nothing supports it anyways) then you will be fine.
EDIT: I forgot to mention. If you have another Samsung accessory like the Samsung Gear 2 then you don't want to use anything but TouchWiz. Samsung has locked out paying customers from using them on anything unless it is running BloatWiz, I mean TouchWiz.
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And the camera drivers are software.
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app

Racinghart91 said:
Is fv5 camera an app ? I really enjoyed your cm12 rom henkie. The only big problem for me was the camera quality.. so if there's a way that I could get the camera better I'm right back to your rom
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There are several camera apps. The CM12 stock cam, the google cam, the FV-5 cam, open cam, snap cam, just to name a few. I don't like the CM12 stock cam too much neither but the FV-5 camera app is pretty good. It costs $3 though but those are $3 well spent in my opinion You don't need the Cm12 ROM to test them of course, they run on any android platform, so check them out, all available in the app store.
The Samsung cam app is indeed quite nice though, that's one of the few things Samsung actually did right

Racinghart91 said:
Is fv5 camera an app ? I really enjoyed your cm12 rom henkie. The only big problem for me was the camera quality.. so if there's a way that I could get the camera better I'm right back to your rom
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Oops. Auto correct on my phone. I meant the default AOSP camera app. It works fine for me. Even better then the TW app. Which is odd.
And the camera drivers are software.
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That I know. I was being silly.

I had CM12 on my note 4 for a couple of weeks, it wasn't stable enough for a daily driver really, some of the issues I had:
- Overheating, the phone gets hot, really hot, not just normal warming from charging or heavy use. On one occasion the phone smelt like burning electronics, i thought it was going to be dead.
- Camera is unstable, on first launch it was okay, subsequent launches gave an error of unable to connect to camera, only a reboot fixed it.
- Battery life is aweful, on echo i charge once a day on CM12 I had to charge 3 times a day.
- Random reboots, the phone would reboot then get stuck on the CM loading screen.
(I have the N910G,things maybe different on the N910F)

Yeah according to above replies N910F is considerably better than C edition (Apparently Exynos documentation still sucks way more than Qualcomm's?).
Thanks for the answer though, now I know N910G is completely off limits for me.

thelestat said:
I had CM12 on my note 4 for a couple of weeks, it wasn't stable enough for a daily driver really, some of the issues I had:
- Overheating, the phone gets hot, really hot, not just normal warming from charging or heavy use. On one occasion the phone smelt like burning electronics, i thought it was going to be dead.
- Camera is unstable, on first launch it was okay, subsequent launches gave an error of unable to connect to camera, only a reboot fixed it.
- Battery life is aweful, on echo i charge once a day on CM12 I had to charge 3 times a day.
- Random reboots, the phone would reboot then get stuck on the CM loading screen.
(I have the N910G,things maybe different on the N910F)
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Had the same problems with my Note 4 - N910F, lol..
I'm stuch with Touchwiz aswell at the moment

[T807AUCU1BOD4] Official Lollipop 5.0.2 OTA For AT&T Galaxy Tab S 10.5

The OTA is huge, to the tune of 1.1 GB, but I finally got it downloaded and installed. There are lots of UI tweaks and performance seems really good. Plus, the radio bug introduced with the NK1 update is fixed, so the cellular radio shouldn't randomly shut off anymore.
So far, I'm pretty happy with it. What say ye, fellow XDAers?
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Can anyone extract or pull the update and post it? I think you should be able to use kies

sram21092 said:
Can anyone extract or pull the update and post it? I think you should be able to use kies
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Come on, somebody help this guy out and grab the update from kies before it disappears.

I've finally got this damn thing working the way I want and now they're pushing an update? And I don't have a choice? I should have stayed with Verizon.

thorvindr said:
I've finally got this damn thing working the way I want and now they're pushing an update? And I don't have a choice? I should have stayed with Verizon.
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Seriously? Yes you have a choice. You can choose not to upgrade, but why wouldn't you? It's the latest and greatest of both Android and Touchwiz.
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oldblue910 said:
Seriously? Yes you have a choice. You can choose not to upgrade, but why wouldn't you? It's the latest and greatest of both Android and Touchwiz.
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Not giving me a choice. Starts downloading as soon as I connect to Wifi. And I f*&#ing HATE TouchWiz. First thing I do on a Samsung device is install a launcher with even the most basic of customization options and disable the S-anything bloatware. SwiftKey is a better keyboard and Google (ya know; the stuff that's included with Android) is a better everything else.
Of course that's just my opinion but you asked why I don't want the update.

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Not giving me a choice. Starts downloading as soon as I connect to Wifi. And I f*&#ing HATE TouchWiz. First thing I do on a Samsung device is install a launcher with even the most basic of customization options and disable the S-anything bloatware. SwiftKey is a better keyboard and Google (ya know; the stuff that's included with Android) is a better everything else.
Of course that's just my opinion but you asked why I don't want the update.
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Sounds like you should have bought a Nexus 9, then. haha
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oldblue910 said:
Sounds like you should have bought a Nexus 9, then. haha
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Yeah, I should have. Unfortunately, 30 bucks a month for 20 months is something I can do while 600 bucks right now isn't.

thorvindr said:
Yeah, I should have. Unfortunately, 30 bucks a month for 20 months is something I can do while 600 bucks right now isn't.
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Fair enough.
Sent from my Galaxy S6 using Tapatalk

Yup. Didn't give me a choice. Kept asking all day and I kept saying no. Updated while I was sleeping. Now stuck with cheezy white-everywhere iPhone color scheme.

[Confirmed] Features added in Android 6.0 / 6.0.1 aka Marshmallow

Hello folks,
Good news! I have come across a user manual in Hebrew of Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which was updated on 11th of March 2016 which confirms couple of new features of Samsung Galaxy Note 5 has been added for instance S-Pen menu of Note 5.
Take a look for yourself, as I'm unable to upload .pdf file which is 10MB.
Links: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-note/SM-N910FZKEBTU
http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=UNI_UK&CttFileID=6454117&CDCttType=UM&ModelType=N&ModelName=SM-N910F&VPath=UM/201603/20160311155949547/SM-N910_UM_MEA_Marshmallow_Heb_160311.pdf

eh.. no theme store

No NFC Samsung Pay :/

I'm curious about Off Screen Memo

No Screen Grid on this big device and now floating button dialer on this big devices. Samsung ...

here is pdf file.

Indian Site Update
downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201603/20160311161603623/SM-N910_UM_EU_Marshmallow_Eng_Rev.1.0_160224.pdf

Here it is, the Turkish one ?

Unfortunately Off Screen Memo doesn't seems to show up in this UM :/

148 page, there is Off Screen Memo

pigula97 said:
148 page, there is Off Screen Memo
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Thank you for pointing out. I'm relaxed now.

XDA_Tinker said:
Thank you for pointing out. I'm relaxed now.
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But anyway, samsung disappointed i guess everyone.

pigula97 said:
But anyway, samsung disappointed i guess everyone.
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It's not new, as we all know since Note 2 Sammy kept us disappointing.

XDA_Tinker said:
It's not new, as we all know since Note 2 Sammy kept us disappointing.
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The only thing left for us is waiting for Note 5 ports...

pigula97 said:
The only thing left for us is waiting for Note 5 ports...
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Yes indeed, I'm sure Marshmallow will be the last update for Note 4. Our Beloved Note 4 won't be able to see Android N.

XDA_Tinker said:
Yes indeed, I'm sure Marshmallow will be the last update for Note 4. Our Beloved Note 4 won't be able to see Android N.
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Well most of android phones don't even have marshmallow so N is really far far away from us

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Well most of android phones don't even have marshmallow so N is really far far away from us
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Yes but Marshmallow will be the last update. As you can see how Sammy abundant Note 3 with Android 5.0

XDA_Tinker said:
Yes but Marshmallow will be the last update. As you can see how Sammy abundant Note 3 with Android 5.0
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Well this is android world and sammy world

I hate Samsung's update policy. Note 4 is very powerful device and ı think note 4 will be able to work with Android N. Other side, Xperia z2 got marshmallow beta. We're still waiting for this s***. I got angry again.

mesuahas said:
I hate Samsung's update policy. Note 4 is very powerful device and ı think note 4 will be able to work with Android N. Other side, Xperia z2 got marshmallow beta. We're still waiting for this s***. I got angry again.
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I do agree mate ?

AR Emoji for note 8

Our note 8 got the AR Emoji and super-slow function for its camera

kmmi said:
Our note 8 got the AR Emoji and super-slow function for its camera
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Yes but i dont know how to activate it

memeliv said:
Yes but i dont know how to activate it
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You have to download a the emoji app from the samsung store lol.

Cant find it
Dchoi229 said:
You have to download a the emoji app from the samsung store lol.
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memeliv said:
Cant find it
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Go to your stock camera and swipe to the left and you should see a blue box that says create my emoji. Click on that and it should redirect you to the samsung galaxy apps page. It's really useless to be honest with you. Animoji for iphone is a lot better and innovative.

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Go to your stock camera and swipe to the left and you should see a blue box that says create my emoji. Click on that and it should redirect you to the samsung galaxy apps page. It's really useless to be honest with you. Animoji for iphone is a lot better and innovative.
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I still cant find it and yes I'm on latest firmware shown in the OP

Touch on stickers in camera, not Swype left.

sergyu91ma said:
Touch on stickers in camera, not Swype left.
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Thanks! It's there

We Sprint users didn't get it with the September update that arrived yesterday. Any way of side-loading it?

I'm still waiting for the update
I've seen the emoji maker app in galaxy apps many days ago excited and heard news, still waiting to get the update...

these functions very nice. but i don't know this super slow motion function is same as note 9 or s9 + ?

stormy_ugur said:
these functions very nice. but i don't know this super slow motion function is same as note 9 or s9 + ?
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No, not the same..... It's so crap [emoji36]
And AR emoji are not the same like s9, Note 9...can only create emoji gifs [emoji35]
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Case89 said:
No, not the same..... It's so crap [emoji36]
And AR emoji are not the same like s9, Note 9...can only create emoji gifs [emoji35]
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live message screen is smaller now. is it possible to backup note 8 oriiginal live message agian?
this live message is so ugly. i don't recommend anyone.

has anyone got these features on verizon in the usa?

jdog94 said:
has anyone got these features on verizon in the usa?
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No they Robbed us.

Steve One said:
No they Robbed us.
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Yes they did! I was cursing and saying the exact same thing.. It's just like the device manager that they took from us for well over a year.. They are always messing with something and taking it something.. And if you look at the date on the kernel, they took a good month to pull things. They're not trying to make sure anything works on their silly network.. They are just trying to remove features in the frail "hope" that it will make people upgrade to the new models.
Same thing for security patches.. Notice we didn't get one at all for 3 months, while Samsung had been rolling them out every month steady. All you have to do is either read here in some of the other threads, or simply sammobile. The latter always tells when they're is an update our patch to any Samsung device. And I just sat, read, and observed. They do this every year, with every single new devices far as Samsung is concerned.
They let Verizon do that to us. But yes, Verizon is as crooked a carrier, as a bent telephone pole.. I feel you what though, it makes me feel just the opposite. Why in the world would I, as a consumer keep investing money in a device that isn't cheap by a Longshot as far as cellular devices are concerned, when all they're going to do, is disable features, that the device was designed for by the manufacturer..
It really, at this price point to me is simply sickening.. And I really and utterly refuse....
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There is no AR feature in the so-called AR emoji for Note 8. There are plenty of app that can be used to create personalized sticker, nothing special.

p4n6 said:
There is no AR feature in the so-called AR emoji for Note 8. There are plenty of app that can be used to create personalized sticker, nothing special.
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Yes there is u just have to be on the right build

Just got the AR emoji and super slow motion update along with security update this morning. I'm using a Verizon samsung Galaxy Note 8.

ycats said:
We Sprint users didn't get it with the September update that arrived yesterday. Any way of side-loading it?
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I'm on sprint and I got it