Screen Ghosting/"Burn In"? - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anyone else experienced Ghosting, otherwise known as "burn in", on their Fire tablet? I will have a residual image left even after staying on the same page for less than a minute then switching apps. It fades eventually, but happens so often there is almost always a residual image left.

Bad panel? I'd suggest returning it

Not seen any on mine, and do get it quite severely on my windows tablet so know what you mean.

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[Q] Bad Digitizer?

I've noticed the last few days that my nc has a hard time unlocking. I start to swipe my finger across the unlock and it moves about 1/10 of the screen then shoots back. If I do it a few times, I might get lucky and unlock it.
Does this sound like the digitizer is going out? It's one of the first production models (wife bought it for me for christmas right after they came into the store). So I don't know if there was an issue with them at all or not.
Everywhere else on the screen seems to be fine, but it doesn't do me much good if I can't open the thing to read the books inside.
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Just did a test on the bottom row of books, and they seem to be working fine in that general area. Is anyone else seeing this only when trying to unlock the nc from sleep/off?
Do you have it plugged in?
Yeah it seems to happen on my girlfriends NC, at least when it was running 1.1 Stock, not sure I've noticed it since 1.2. It's not a bad digitizer assuming you have the same issue which was right after resuming from sleep it will SOMETIMES be a little pokey for the first 20 seconds or so but after that it slides smooth as butter. It never really bothered me since I just assumed it was reloading some software into memory. The only other common issues I know of are issues when plugged in as mentioned above and the seemingly obvious but often overlooked dirty screen.
I do notice in general that both NC's I use are a little less than perfect when touching the far corners (I often need to jab while making grunting sounds) but I figure it's an e-reader so they probably didn't spend a fortune on the capacitive part of the screen. If you are so inclined, loading up CM7 disables the lock screen by default and there might be a way to do it in stock as well although I suspect you will still occasionally need to give it it's 20 seconds to get things running again.

[Q] LG G Flex screen burn in...

Hello! I have somehow managed to get a reallllllly annyoing screen burn in on my G Flex. Its the status bar and another part under it that's maybe .7cm wide, going from side to side. It perfectly matches the blue Facebook "bar" thing and the Chrome webbrowser search field.
I wonder, how the hell could this happen? I know that it is an Oled display and that it risks getting a burn in, but I've never used it for an extended period of time, I just can't understand how it happend. All displaytypes can get burn-ins I've read, but they shouldn't get it from moderate use. Now is there any way to fix this? It i reaally annoying considering I payed alot of money for it. I have googled it and found nothing useful. Do you think it's possible to get a new device?
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Well i had a little at the the bottom i noticed and i turned the phone off for awhile and it got rid of it maybe you should try that and see if it works. Hope it helps burn in sucks.
HIT EM WIT DAT FLEX
Maybe it's just temporary image retention you see. Doesn't it go away after a little while? If you keep away from the home screen for a long time does the same burn-in still show?
dannejanne said:
Maybe it's just temporary image retention you see. Doesn't it go away after a little while? If you keep away from the home screen for a long time does the same burn-in still show?
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It's definately not just temporarily, I've had it for maybe 2-3 weeks and not cared very much. Now though it starts to annoy me more and more.
I also shut off my phone every night for around 8 hours so, yeah, it's permanent... Could this just be a bad display as it is an early sample, or is this just how it is?
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It's definately not just temporarily, I've had it for maybe 2-3 weeks and not cared very much. Now though it starts to annoy me more and more.
I also shut off my phone every night for around 8 hours so, yeah, it's permanent... Could this just be a bad display as it is an early sample, or is this just how it is?
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You shouldn't get permanent burn-in unless you use the mobile with maximum brightness all the time and letting it show static images most of the time. The screen is most sensitive to burn-in while it's new. You could try to exchange it if they accept it as a fault.
However you can also try to "wash" it out first. Put the phone on maximum brightness showing an 100% white screen. No statusbar or navbar just plain white all over the screen. Doing this for a few hours can get rid of burn-in.
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You shouldn't get permanent burn-in unless you use the mobile with maximum brightness all the time and letting it show static images most of the time. The screen is most sensitive to burn-in while it's new. You could try to exchange it if they accept it as a fault.
However you can also try to "wash" it out first. Put the phone on maximum brightness showing an 100% white screen. No statusbar or navbar just plain white all over the screen. Doing this for a few hours can get rid of burn-in.
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That's the annoying part, I have owned alot of phones with displaytypes from S-AMOLED to LCD and so on, and NEVER had this problem before. This phone has only seen normal, regular use and I always take care of my phones.
And this wash out thing, is it safe to do? I've read that it isn't safe for OLED/AMOLED displays, it could be total bs though, as it came from other threads that i read.
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That's the annoying part, I have owned alot of phones with displaytypes from S-AMOLED to LCD and so on, and NEVER had this problem before. This phone has only seen normal, regular use and I always take care of my phones.
And this wash out thing, is it safe to do? I've read that it isn't safe for OLED/AMOLED displays, it could be total bs though, as it came from other threads that i read.
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Well nothing bad can really happen when you "wash" the screen that way. As long as you make sure ALL of the screen is white and have no statusbar or navbar present.
This technique is often used on Plasma TV's when they get burn-in. What happens is you "age" all of the pixels when doing this and sometimes it can get rid of burn-in. No garantuee for it though. But it never hurts to try. I've never heard that it's unsafe in any way. It's a normal thing to do.
This phone seems to have different screen revisions. I have two G-Flex at the moment and one of them is much more noticeably grainer in the texture even though they are on the same firmware. On one example I can hardly notice it if I don't look for it while the other one looks noisy as heck and I see it easily and can't ignore it. Really big difference between the two. The noisy one is also a LOT more prone to image retention. I will get rid of the one with the noisy screen for a good price and keep the good one only.
dannejanne said:
Well nothing bad can really happen when you "wash" the screen that way. As long as you make sure ALL of the screen is white and have no statusbar or navbar present.
This technique is often used on Plasma TV's when they get burn-in. What happens is you "age" all of the pixels when doing this and sometimes it can get rid of burn-in. No garantuee for it though. But it never hurts to try. I've never heard that it's unsafe in any way. It's a normal thing to do.
This phone seems to have different screen revisions. I have two G-Flex at the moment and one of them is much more noticeably grainer in the texture even though they are on the same firmware. On one example I can hardly notice it if I don't look for it while the other one looks noisy as heck and I see it easily and can't ignore it. Really big difference between the two. The noisy one is also a LOT more prone to image retention. I will get rid of the one with the noisy screen for a good price and keep the good one only.
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Ah, well I'm going to try that then! And btw, my statusbar has burned in, but not my navbar buttons... Kinda weird, huh?
And I think that I have the "bad" revision, as my screen is REALLY grainy at lower brightness and when displaying dark images. If this problem doesnt solve I'll try to send it in, and if they replace it I hope that I get a less grainy one, even though that I don't really care about that haha. I'll run in a couple of hours and come back with results!
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Ah, well I'm going to try that then! And btw, my statusbar has burned in, but not my navbar buttons... Kinda weird, huh?
And I think that I have the "bad" revision, as my screen is REALLY grainy at lower brightness and when displaying dark images. If this problem doesnt solve I'll try to send it in, and if they replace it I hope that I get a less grainy one, even though that I don't really care about that haha. I'll run in a couple of hours and come back with results!
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Quick update, I can now see when displaying a full white image that there is minor burn ins all over the screen... This is not acceptable for an expensive phone...
Grollman said:
Quick update, I can now see when displaying a full white image that there is minor burn ins all over the screen... This is not acceptable for an expensive phone...
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I believe you have a defective display then. Even my worse panel does not suffer from permanent burn-in. It all goes away in seconds.
I've had this happen last night on my flex where I was watching a movie that was letterboxed, half way through and I had to reload the movie due to a bathroom break and noticed the letterboxing in Facebook. But as of today its gone.
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I have horrible image retention on pretty bad on mine primarily the onscreen softkeys. When I go in a game after I've been browsing the web I can clearly see a line where the soft keys bar is and clearly make out all three buttons. It's horribly annoying and I'm wondering if it's a defective phone or is this just the crappy way the G FLEX is?

Bizarre "Jumpy" Edge S6 Behavior

I have the Galaxy S6 ATT with 128 mb. Running stock, rooted, lollipop5.02. Have had it less than two weeks.
Two issues are becoming major. First, the HEAT. This phone gets hotter than any phone I have every had. Sometimes, almost to the point that it is untouchable. I have tried to discern what apps, if any, might be causing this behavior, but without success. The heat seems to come and go relatively randomly; that is, if I set it down for 15 minutes, it will have cooled off and I might not experience the same thing until tomorrow.
Second, and this is equally bothersome. Sometimes when the phone has been on for awhile, and especially if it has gotten warm as described above, the Edge just goes crazy. Pages opening and closing, sliding in and out, keyboard is taken over and types random latters, frequently sending them out in texts. (I've sent many texts that are quite lucid at the beginning, and look like I'm plastered at the end.) Again, a look at 3C Toolbox doesn't show any particular app overutilizing the CPU or anything else that would be apparent to a relative novice like me.
Anyone else experienced this? It's one of those things that is going to be difficult to demonstrate unless it happens when I am right near an ATT store. Any advice will be so much appreciated.
Robert
I've had one of these too on my ATT S6 edge. It's often called "touchscreen ghosting" across different devices that have it. I used to have the OnePlus One which was plagued with these touchscreen ghosting problems. It's exacerbated in high heat environment. You'll find that putting it in the fridge for some time resolves the symptoms immediately. I'd hold out 'til winter and hope they subside on their own.
i was having similar issues. removing my tempered glass helped. im starting to hate this phone. My battery was 66% an hour and a half after i left house today with a full charge. MY gps doesnt ever connect correctly. When using navigation it jumps around and re-routes me constantly. I can't wait to get a nexus 5x and get rid of this junk.
I'm dropping this phone for the Nexus 5x also. I learned my lesson dealing with these phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6-edge/help/screen-bright-spot-t3209518

How to prevent amoled burn in?

Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
Never understood how people managed with burn ins. Well, stop watching a static picture with 100% brightness for 5hrs in a row is a good start.
i have owned more than a dozen samsung products with amoled screens, never had burn in on one of them. I always keep the screen very bright because my eyesight isnt that great. the one lg amoled phone i owned had terrible screen burn
The factors involved are: heat (ext), brightness (curr), uneven degradation rate of each color (rgb), persistent elements, and age (of panel). If half a screen is black and the other is blue, at max brightness, the blue subpixels are under the most stress. Their decay rate will overshadow the resting blue lights - plus that of green and red.
5yrs from now you're going to look at an all white image. Half of it will look awful.
Thanks guys, but not really helping, are you?
Fall asleep once with your phone under your face and you'll have a burn in your amoled screen. Probably many other ways.
This is a common issue that most people don't even notice.
I get how it happens. I'm looking for ways to prevent it.
Setting a screen timeout is helpful
Had every Samsung for years and never had this, so I've no idea.
Maybe some people don't have a screen timeout and fall asleep sometimes dunno
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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I don't remember that. I know they had it on their Plasma TVs. I thought the Pixel phones with OLED screens also had it but don't know about Samsung phones. I do think that 99.9% of people that use a phone normally will never experience burn-in for the time they own the phone.
Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
No way am I turning stuff off to avoid something I've never seen
900 quid to have to suffer immersive mode utter lols, if I have to did that I'll sell it
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I also honestly don't know what you're talking about. I've had s3, s5, s7, s9 and now to s10. Never had anything of the sort and since s7 I've been using AOD. Nothing happend. For the love of me I can't imagine how you may have had anything wrong with the display....
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Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
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Exactly, it's always the status bar. I think there is no immersive mode on s10+ yet, but I removed all the icons.
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Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
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THANK YOU
I'm pretty sure many think they never had a burn in on their precious amoled screen, but they actually had.
Well they probably aren't looking for it that closely
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lumiden said:
Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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sainthooligan said:
Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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You can set the schedule for the time for the AOD is active and either use the AOD auto brightness option or set the brightness lower, if that helps you feel more confident with it. The movement should help avoid issues.
FWIW, I used AOD with my previous phone without any issue and I anticipate the same with this one.
My burn in issue was only with the games & YouTube as noted.
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This is my main issue with AMOLED screens. They look nice but they wear out. The nature of Android means they will wear out unevenly which is why people see burn in. The wearing out of your screen is cumulative. Meaning that it isn't like an old CRT TV where it would take weeks of a static image to burn in but just showing the same image over time day in and day out. The only way to prevent it is to use the entire screen with moving images, like full screen movies, so that the panel wears evenly.
The status bar and navigation bar tend to be on the screen all the time those images will burn in first. Dark mode can also cause issues because if the area is dark it isn't being used and if it isn't being used it will look brighter than other areas that were used more frequently. The s10 has a full screen mode option for some apps. Some apps like Netflix will show the full screen movie even around the camera cutout and that is ideal. Youtube will also allow you to zoom in and show the video around the camera. cutout Chrome and the Samsung browser keep the status bar but it will change colors based on the site and if the bar is white it will invert the status icons which will help keep the panel wearing evenly. I have the dolphin browser which runs in full screen but the top portion of the panel is not used so that is less than ideal.
Auto brightness can be used but in the bright sun that panel is wearing much faster. The screen time out should be set to 15 seconds. These panels are designed to look great but not be super durable and in many cases that's what Samsung wants. They benefit when you have to buy a new device. It's sad to say but its business.

Intermittent loss of touch response

Just retired my 2 XL and got a like-new 4 XL. Loving it so far, except one nagging issue.
Randomly the top 30-50% of the display stops registering taps (touch). It's easy to fix by turning the display off then back on, but I'm concerned it may be a hardware issue.
Interestingly, when this happens and something that is full screen and scrollable such as a contact list or app drawer is in the foreground, I can drag from below the "no touch area" to the top of the screen, but I can't start a drag at the top. So, it can sense touch in the troubled half, it just won't register taps.
I have done tons of searches. I see lots of people saying Android 12 had touch issues out of the gate, but was supposedly fixed. I disabled the block_untrusted_touches. I have checked any app that has draw over other apps permissions. I have tried with high touch sensitivity on and off. I have paid attention to running apps when it happens. I installed a LogCat reader looking for touch related issues when the problem occurs. I tried safe mode, but due to the intermittent nature of the problem, and the fact that safe mode disables most functionality, it really wasn't a good long term test.
I have yet to pinpoint this.
Sometimes it doesn't happen for a day, other times it's multiple times per day. So trial and error takes time because just when you think you licked the problem, it rears it's ugly head again.
I'm running LineageOS 19.1 at the moment (which I had also run on my 2XL with no issues). It is rooted. No apps force closing or crashing.
Has anyone else seen this on the 4XL?
Definitely interesting, never heard of that. I had some touch issues, specially if the display gets wet where it register touch, but poorly to the point I need to restart the device and dry out the screen. Though in my case the creen is completely cracked, so I suspect that's the cause as it didn't happened before.
Though I had a similar to yours but with the battery.
The problem was that the phone would randomly shut down, and that would happen more often when it was on my pocket.
This made the phone very un stable as sometimes I would have the phone completely off and didn't even know about it.
So I decided to open it and have a look at it. It turn out that the problem was the flex cable that connected the battery with the logic board, it was just slightly tore on one side, but just a tiny I couldn't nearly see it, I had to use another phone to zoom in.
As it was torn, depending on the way the phone was changed the force the gravity made over the cable, causing that sometimes it not enough energy got the phone, causing it to shut down.
Once I replaced it, it never happened again, not a single time.
Maybe you have a similar problem, though as you are rooted and using a custom ROM, that may be the reason, my case was extremely rare.
anyway, good luck

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