Hello! I have somehow managed to get a reallllllly annyoing screen burn in on my G Flex. Its the status bar and another part under it that's maybe .7cm wide, going from side to side. It perfectly matches the blue Facebook "bar" thing and the Chrome webbrowser search field.
I wonder, how the hell could this happen? I know that it is an Oled display and that it risks getting a burn in, but I've never used it for an extended period of time, I just can't understand how it happend. All displaytypes can get burn-ins I've read, but they shouldn't get it from moderate use. Now is there any way to fix this? It i reaally annoying considering I payed alot of money for it. I have googled it and found nothing useful. Do you think it's possible to get a new device?
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Well i had a little at the the bottom i noticed and i turned the phone off for awhile and it got rid of it maybe you should try that and see if it works. Hope it helps burn in sucks.
HIT EM WIT DAT FLEX
Maybe it's just temporary image retention you see. Doesn't it go away after a little while? If you keep away from the home screen for a long time does the same burn-in still show?
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Maybe it's just temporary image retention you see. Doesn't it go away after a little while? If you keep away from the home screen for a long time does the same burn-in still show?
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It's definately not just temporarily, I've had it for maybe 2-3 weeks and not cared very much. Now though it starts to annoy me more and more.
I also shut off my phone every night for around 8 hours so, yeah, it's permanent... Could this just be a bad display as it is an early sample, or is this just how it is?
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It's definately not just temporarily, I've had it for maybe 2-3 weeks and not cared very much. Now though it starts to annoy me more and more.
I also shut off my phone every night for around 8 hours so, yeah, it's permanent... Could this just be a bad display as it is an early sample, or is this just how it is?
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You shouldn't get permanent burn-in unless you use the mobile with maximum brightness all the time and letting it show static images most of the time. The screen is most sensitive to burn-in while it's new. You could try to exchange it if they accept it as a fault.
However you can also try to "wash" it out first. Put the phone on maximum brightness showing an 100% white screen. No statusbar or navbar just plain white all over the screen. Doing this for a few hours can get rid of burn-in.
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You shouldn't get permanent burn-in unless you use the mobile with maximum brightness all the time and letting it show static images most of the time. The screen is most sensitive to burn-in while it's new. You could try to exchange it if they accept it as a fault.
However you can also try to "wash" it out first. Put the phone on maximum brightness showing an 100% white screen. No statusbar or navbar just plain white all over the screen. Doing this for a few hours can get rid of burn-in.
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That's the annoying part, I have owned alot of phones with displaytypes from S-AMOLED to LCD and so on, and NEVER had this problem before. This phone has only seen normal, regular use and I always take care of my phones.
And this wash out thing, is it safe to do? I've read that it isn't safe for OLED/AMOLED displays, it could be total bs though, as it came from other threads that i read.
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That's the annoying part, I have owned alot of phones with displaytypes from S-AMOLED to LCD and so on, and NEVER had this problem before. This phone has only seen normal, regular use and I always take care of my phones.
And this wash out thing, is it safe to do? I've read that it isn't safe for OLED/AMOLED displays, it could be total bs though, as it came from other threads that i read.
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Well nothing bad can really happen when you "wash" the screen that way. As long as you make sure ALL of the screen is white and have no statusbar or navbar present.
This technique is often used on Plasma TV's when they get burn-in. What happens is you "age" all of the pixels when doing this and sometimes it can get rid of burn-in. No garantuee for it though. But it never hurts to try. I've never heard that it's unsafe in any way. It's a normal thing to do.
This phone seems to have different screen revisions. I have two G-Flex at the moment and one of them is much more noticeably grainer in the texture even though they are on the same firmware. On one example I can hardly notice it if I don't look for it while the other one looks noisy as heck and I see it easily and can't ignore it. Really big difference between the two. The noisy one is also a LOT more prone to image retention. I will get rid of the one with the noisy screen for a good price and keep the good one only.
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Well nothing bad can really happen when you "wash" the screen that way. As long as you make sure ALL of the screen is white and have no statusbar or navbar present.
This technique is often used on Plasma TV's when they get burn-in. What happens is you "age" all of the pixels when doing this and sometimes it can get rid of burn-in. No garantuee for it though. But it never hurts to try. I've never heard that it's unsafe in any way. It's a normal thing to do.
This phone seems to have different screen revisions. I have two G-Flex at the moment and one of them is much more noticeably grainer in the texture even though they are on the same firmware. On one example I can hardly notice it if I don't look for it while the other one looks noisy as heck and I see it easily and can't ignore it. Really big difference between the two. The noisy one is also a LOT more prone to image retention. I will get rid of the one with the noisy screen for a good price and keep the good one only.
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Ah, well I'm going to try that then! And btw, my statusbar has burned in, but not my navbar buttons... Kinda weird, huh?
And I think that I have the "bad" revision, as my screen is REALLY grainy at lower brightness and when displaying dark images. If this problem doesnt solve I'll try to send it in, and if they replace it I hope that I get a less grainy one, even though that I don't really care about that haha. I'll run in a couple of hours and come back with results!
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Ah, well I'm going to try that then! And btw, my statusbar has burned in, but not my navbar buttons... Kinda weird, huh?
And I think that I have the "bad" revision, as my screen is REALLY grainy at lower brightness and when displaying dark images. If this problem doesnt solve I'll try to send it in, and if they replace it I hope that I get a less grainy one, even though that I don't really care about that haha. I'll run in a couple of hours and come back with results!
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Quick update, I can now see when displaying a full white image that there is minor burn ins all over the screen... This is not acceptable for an expensive phone...
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Quick update, I can now see when displaying a full white image that there is minor burn ins all over the screen... This is not acceptable for an expensive phone...
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I believe you have a defective display then. Even my worse panel does not suffer from permanent burn-in. It all goes away in seconds.
I've had this happen last night on my flex where I was watching a movie that was letterboxed, half way through and I had to reload the movie due to a bathroom break and noticed the letterboxing in Facebook. But as of today its gone.
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I have horrible image retention on pretty bad on mine primarily the onscreen softkeys. When I go in a game after I've been browsing the web I can clearly see a line where the soft keys bar is and clearly make out all three buttons. It's horribly annoying and I'm wondering if it's a defective phone or is this just the crappy way the G FLEX is?
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i just noticed that my 1 month old nexus one has the notification bar burnt in. go to landscape view in the browser, load a white background like google.com, and sure enough i can see very faintly the notification bar.
i've always kept the display on auto brightness. i'm very curious to hear if anyone else checks their screen if they have the same issue. the phone is only 1 month old, maybe 2 at the tops, so its very strange for this to happen. anyone else?
Had mine since end of March. No burn-in or any type of ghosting. I have my screen time-out set to 30 seconds. I wonder if that's got anything to do with it.
that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
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that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
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how bad is it? Is it possible to show us a picture?
its not too bad, but definitely there. the concern is how new this phone is. what happens after 6 months?
I'll try to take a pic later, but don't have a good camera on me.
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its not too bad, but definitely there. the concern is how new this phone is. what happens after 6 months?
I'll try to take a pic later, but don't have a good camera on me.
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Definately, you should give htc a call and tell them whats up. No rush on a picture.
AMOLED displays are worse for burn in than old CRT's, so br interesting to see how these fair
Got mine in late Jan and no sign of it.
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that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
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Can't say either way if 1.5 minutes more of screen-on time can create the burn-in. But compared to the standard 30-sec time-out on most phones (some have 15 sec), 2 minutes is pretty long. You may want to set it to a shorter time-out duration.
you REALLY have to look close to see it. I tried it on black screen and you can't see it all. except in landscape the notification bar switches so at the very left inside the bar you can see the small faded line of the portrait bar.
i don't care enough to call HTC for any type of exchange or repair. I've heard the horror stories of their service too!
I have slight burn in on mine too. It's expected and I doubt the screen time out has anything to do with it. Keep in mind that any use of the phone the notification bar usually stays in the same place. Sometimes I have maps nav going on and that alone keeps the display on for the length of a car trip.
Also you guys can test by getting Dead Pixel Detect from the market and cycling through a few different colors.
well I'm not gonna get all worked up about it. sucks it happened so soon, hopefully it doesn't get worse. I'll try that dead pixel app just to see.
I'll take a pic shortly, but I don't know if it will actually be visible from a photo.
thats bad if its true....still a new phone with this problem already? wow..mine is less than a week old ...I will keep an eye out for it though, and if anyone has a solution that would be nice...
Drawing white on AMOLED requires much more than drawing black.
One more reason for using Desire (or a black notification bar theme)
I have two Nexus One's. The first was the Tmobile version which I used on ATT EDGE. That device has the purple tint issue and also has some burn in(uneven wear)where the notification bar is. Unfortunately I ran it with the brightness at 100%, 24-7. Now, it is very slight, but it is there.
I also have the 3G ATT version and it has no purple tint and has no burn in(uneven wear) yet and I've used it more now that I did the EDGE version. BUT, I never run this one with 100% brightness unless I have to.
Also, it is better to run at very low brightness for the first say hundred hours because there is a sharper dropoff in brightness half life during that time, making burn in(uneven wear)detectable with the human eye more likely to occur.
At the end of the day, for my situation, I blame myself for running at 100% brightness. I should have known better. LCD, with as long as they have been around, have innovated to the point of having very long half lives making burn in possible, but very rare. I was operating the way I always had with mobile devices. BUT, with these new screens, new care must be taken until AMOLED matures with higher brightness half life.
100% brightness I understand, but auto setting and this still happened in a month?
that pixel detector app definitely shows the burn in. I can see the icons too for 3g, signal meter, M from the pm time stamp, etc.
I guess there's no way to fix other than replace the screen? cause I'll change my notification bar to black if I had known this could happen.
I wonder what I should do...repair, HTC warranty, live with it, etc
I have the same problem. t-mobile nexus one. Happened about 2 months after I first got it. HTC replaced it. And it happened again on the new one. I keep it on 100% brightness pretty much all the time except at night. Doesn't bother me much though. I hardly use my phone in landscape and it's only on white backgrounds.
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100% brightness I understand, but auto setting and this still happened in a month?
that pixel detector app definitely shows the burn in. I can see the icons too for 3g, signal meter, M from the pm time stamp, etc.
I guess there's no way to fix other than replace the screen? cause I'll change my notification bar to black if I had known this could happen.
I wonder what I should do...repair, HTC warranty, live with it, etc
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If you get a new one just remember that even with a black notification bar, you're at risk. You will also need to run dark or black backgrounds to stay even with the black bar. Otherwise you will end up with a very bright bar and the rest of the screen will look yellowish/grey compared to it. It's always about making sure all the pixels are as evenly worn as possible. Another thing you can do is switch to a black notification bar now and run bright backgrounds and you can reverse some damage. It will never be perfect but you can get the wear more even again thus making the issue even less noticeable than it already is.
I agree about auto setting should have prevented this. At least you would think, but I'm no expert.
Several more things that can be done to help prevent this issue: if browsers or apps you use have the option to turn off the notification bar, use it. The more you can keep that notification bar off the screen, the more evenly you can wear the screen. Also, set your screen timeout to a shorter level. I used to use two minutes but now I use 30 seconds. The time that the screen is on and the bar is on the screen add up and can eventually contribute to uneven wear, and it's just wasted time waiting for the screen to timeout.
i'm seeing some faint burn in too
I don't feel so bad since I'm not the only one.
even with a black notification bar you would prob need white letters which would still burn in the white letters.
why the hell did I read this thread... lol mine is slight but I have some and I didn't notice it before because the only time I'm in landscape is in navigation most of the time.
Hello all. So I LOVE my Samsung Focus S that I purchased shortly after Thanksgiving Day...all except for one problem. My phone seems to dim permanently out of no where and nothing I do will correct it back to it's normal brightness except for restarting the phone. Automatic Brightness is off and the "Auto Display Intensity" in the Extra Settings category is off. Now I don't know if this is something that specific to Windows Phone or Samsung Focus S particularly? I'm going to take a guess and say it's on the Samsung Focus S that exhibits this behavior. I also can't figure out if it's a hardware failure or a software failure. I'm beginning to think it's a specific update that is used to update your "Extra Settings". I don't know at this point. I just want to know if others have this problem.
The 2nd issue is not so much a problem now but a concern. My first Focus S had a VERY HEAVY greenish tint to it that was immediately noticeable at the lightest of viewing angles. To give you an example of how bad it was, my buddy was looking at a picture of oranges he took with his iPhone4, I thought they were lemons from the side. I went to an ATT store near me and noticed the Galaxy S II exhibited this behavior as well but the Focus S on display did not. I quickly concluded it was a defective screen as it was REALLY noticeable. My buddy gave me a call and told me he was at an ATT store across town and noticed it on another Galaxy S II as well. I made the employee take out two brand new Focus S' and chose the best looking one. They both looked identical, although the one on display had an edge over all of them. Thing is, ALL of the ones I've seen have a very slight green/blue tint to them. Is this normal with Super AMOLED Plus? Is this the Gorilla Glass Coating? I love the colors and contrast on this phone but to be honest the brightness and viewing angle leave something to be desired, more-so the viewing angle. Sorry for the long post!
I just looked at some pictures of oranges to test this. They look nice and orange do me. at an angle the entire screen starts to lose its pop. But I would not call it green more so just dimmer. Can't complain with the blacks...if only more sites background was black lol.
at an angle the entire screen starts to lose its pop.
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Would you mind doing me a favor and looking at different viewing angles on a predominantly white screen? Every phone loses it's composure a bit as the viewing angle is more and more off but I've never seen them turn a different hue. Dim a bit like you said? Yes. I looked online to see if anyone else notices this bluish/greenish tint and many do but more notice it on the AMOLED screen though a few did complain about the Super AMOLED Plus. Thank you!
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Ive been running the focus s since it came out and never noticed this "tint" issue...till today. a simple image of pure white, when viewed from above is fine, but as you change the view angle so does the white begin fade into the bluish haze.
now youre all probably going to hate me but i have a titan too. when i pull the exact same image, it does not fade into blue haze. my suspicion is one of two thoughts: a) the super amoled screen samsung uses has this side effect. b) the glass samsung uses creates this effect.
personally its not a deal breaker for me as i really enjoy the clarity of images and color the samgsung has to offer. that said, the titans inability to go true black are more noticable than a slightly bluish white. but thats purely personal prefence.
FWIW, ive tested red, green, and blue matching images. the only difference i see between the two is a decreased viewing angle on the thc in all aspects. screen display differences is the likely cause.
I can see the blue/green from those angles on white screens
kinda ugly actually
still a few days left to return and get the titan....
now youre all probably going to hate me but i have a titan too. when i pull the exact same image, it does not fade into blue haze. my suspicion is one of two thoughts: a) the super amoled screen samsung uses has this side effect. b) the glass samsung uses creates this effect.
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It's good to see you have a Titan. The Titan is a pretty nice phone. Viewing angles seem quite good and the whites are SUPER bright. It's just the colors and blacks that suffer. Nice to know you can compare them though.
I can see the blue/green from those angles on white screens
kinda ugly actually
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Hey Alright, I'm not crazy. Heh. I'm going to run to a couple of more ATT stores and see what their display units look like. My buddy just got a GSII and he says he doesn't see it, so I'm going to investigate it as well.
BTW, I spoke to someone at Samsung online and he seemed to think it was "normal" and was caused by a Super AMOLED Plus characteristic. Unfortunately I didn't believe a lick he was telling me.
I'm off to find the perfect display! Wish me luck.
i went back to the store
they want to charge me $35 to restock what I have ^^ - and cant seemed to be talked out of it....
the display Focus S had the same exact issues
as does the GSII/SkyRocket from what I could tell
the Titan's whites make the Focus S whites looks blue - but the Focus S blacks look the Titans blacks look grey
and the color palettes are so radically different - for themes the green on the Titan looks like the lime on the Focus S, and the Titan has nothing that can compare to the green on the Focus S - its ridiculous the difference in the saturation and vividness - I can see what people say about the Titan producing more realistic images - but at the end of the day for most things the Focus S is just better looking, who cares if its accurate?
i imagine using the Titan for a while you would get used to it, but side by side it looks paltry in comparison
to be honest the iPhone display looked pretty good! - just too damned small after using a 4"+ sized display - I could never use something that small after using what I have
So I went to ABT Electronics today and looked at their Focus S. It's funny, all of these places, including the Apple store choose the most PERFECT displays they can find in their inventory to show to the public, when in reality your results can vary greatly. For example, the Focus S at ABT had a whiter/bluer screen than mine in terms of whites. It wasn't a huge difference but it was noticeable. Now I want a new whiter screen. My screen seemed buttery compared to the one I saw. We'll see how successful I am. I know I may sound picky but if I'm going to keep this phone for the next 2 years, I want it to look the way I want it.
I also checked out others with the same 4.3" Super AMOLED Plus and I didn't really see much of a green tint to them. In fact one looked yellowish directly and turned whitish on the side. Weird.
OLEd is still a newer technology, compared to LCD - guess there are still some kinks to work out
Yeah, a problem with AMOLED is a slight bluish hint but I don't believe the screen is a PenTile one.
The dimming has been a bit aggressive, I just usually cover the proximity sensor with my hand and let it work again.
Has anyone noticed a flicker (then on) when you unlock the Focus S screen? Sometimes the screen instantly brings up the lock screen sometimes a second after the flicker.
Alright guys. Back to one of the original topics of the Focus S randomly dimming? I think I figured it out. My phone is over heating and the phone is dimming to try and cool it down. No error messages of overheating or anything. I noticed it today when I was playing games on my phone while charging. My phone was pretty warm. Now up until this point, my phone had not dimmed randomly for a week or so, but this morning? BOOM. Dimmed on me. So it hit me. Screen Dimming + Warm Phone = Overheating. I put the phone down on the cold floor to cool down for 10 minutes. Turn the screen back on and guess what? Original Brightness is back.
Either I exchange my phone again or return it all together. I'm in a bind because I can't get the HTC Titan for the same price I got the Focus S for (Free with No Activation).
Has anyone noticed a flicker (then on) when you unlock the Focus S screen? Sometimes the screen instantly brings up the lock screen sometimes a second after the flicker.
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I have not noticed this at all.
i am in the same boat
almost potentially worthwhile holding out for a Nokia set (perhaps the 900/850)
i actually think I will keep the Focus S to be honest with you
in a year or a year and a half, call up Att and see what they will work for me if I really want to - I have heard lots of success stories about calling them up and getting very discounted phones deals
after revisiting the store - the titan screen looks like **** (IMO except for the whites) compared to the Focus S - and its just too damned big - the Focus S IMO is the perfect size
and all the Android GUI overlays suck ass - so no way I get a droid - and I will certainly not pay $100 for a year old iPhone.
**this fixed mine** random dimming and tinting
Don't throw anything because I just skimmed over the thread before I am responding. I have the Focus S and had that problem. I corrected it by going to "settings>extra settings" and turning off the "Auto Display Intensity" to make it stop adjusting. Unfortunately, that setting defaults to "On" every time the device is restarted. So you have to remember to turn it off. Maybe everybody thought of this, already, and your device does this, anyway, but mine is perfect with this setting off. So, I hope this helps!
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Don't throw anything because I just skimmed over the thread before I am responding. I have the Focus S and had that problem. I corrected it by going to "settings>extra settings" and turning off the "Auto Display Intensity" to make it stop adjusting. Unfortunately, that setting defaults to "On" every time the device is restarted. So you have to remember to turn it off. Maybe everybody thought of this, already, and your device does this, anyway, but mine is perfect with this setting off. So, I hope this helps!
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I had to use the option in the "Brightness" page under Settings. The option on the Extra Settings page applies only when it is set to a white background.
Hopefully a future update will address this and improve the auto dimming. For now, though, it's set to bright all the time.
U only need to press the power button to let the phone go to sleep, then press power button again and almost immediately the custom brightness u set will be back.
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Well the dimming issue hasn't happened to me in quite a while now. I decided to keep the phone. The fact that the display wasn't perfect wasn't enough to make me want to return the phone, especially since I got it for free with no activation fee on a 2 year contract. In the meanwhile, I'm just enjoying it. Funny though, Now that I've got a 4.3" screen, I want MORE. Bring on the 4.7"!
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Well the dimming issue hasn't happened to me in quite a while now. I decided to keep the phone. The fact that the display wasn't perfect wasn't enough to make me want to return the phone, especially since I got it for free with no activation fee on a 2 year contract. In the meanwhile, I'm just enjoying it. Funny though, Now that I've got a 4.3" screen, I want MORE. Bring on the 4.7"!
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After an Inspire and Focus S, I find the 4.7" display of my Titan too large to easily type in.
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After an Inspire and Focus S, I find the 4.7" display of my Titan too large to easily type in.
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I honestly only find it more difficult in landscape mode. Portrait mode is awesome though. I can't stop hitting the "a" button when trying to turn on caps lock. It's really annoying.
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Well the dimming issue hasn't happened to me in quite a while now. I decided to keep the phone. The fact that the display wasn't perfect wasn't enough to make me want to return the phone, especially since I got it for free with no activation fee on a 2 year contract. In the meanwhile, I'm just enjoying it. Funny though, Now that I've got a 4.3" screen, I want MORE. Bring on the 4.7"!
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Having had 3 Samsung Amoled phones (Galaxy S2, Skyrocket, Focus S) and a SAMOLED (Galaxy Note) I will say that Samsung doesn't display true whites, it's always blueish. As far as the dimming, Go to "Settings" > Exta Settings > Use Auto Display (Turn it off, however; it seems to enable itself after changing the theme from light to dark or vice versa, as well as after a reboot.)
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Having had 3 Samsung Amoled phones (Galaxy S2, Skyrocket, Focus S) and a SAMOLED (Galaxy Note) I will say that Samsung doesn't display true whites, it's always blueish. As far as the dimming, Go to "Settings" > Exta Settings > Use Auto Display (Turn it off, however; it seems to enable itself after changing the theme from light to dark or vice versa, as well as after a reboot.)
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I believe all the phones you had, had a SAMOLED + display no? Also, I checked to see if changing the theme from light to dark turns the Auto Display feature back on and for me it does not. As for my dimming issue, it only seems to happen when the phone is plugged in and the battery is a bit warm.
Overall, I like this phone but I also don't. The display is quite delicious really. I've had it on half brightness for a few days now just to see how it looks to me and today I finally put it back to full brightness and the colors really are gorgeous. It's not perfect but I've learned to look past it I guess. Thank you for the reply.
I've bought an Xperia Z3+ two months ago, recently, I've discovered a certain bright spot on its screen, it's particularly available in white and bright backgrounds, it's less noticeable in black backgrounds, and not at all noticeable in non-solid backgrounds.
I know that it's a hardware issue, but the warranty here is a joke, and I don't want to pay for a new screen for such a small issue.
But on the other hand, once I noticed it, it's all I could see in the mobile, and it removes the whole premium feel in it.
I've manually removed the back cover and there's no issue in the battery that would make it press towards the screen and cause such issue.
I was wondering if there's any manual fix for it? I know that it's a light diffusing layer problem, mostly caused by a certain pressure, but is there a way to make it normal again? A certain pressure in an opposite way, or heat, or suction from behind, etc.
Here's a picture that indicates the issue "It's more visible and annoying in real life"
I have the exact same problem at the very same position as you point. My country does not support officially the Z3+ and so the cost is really high. I searched enough on the internet and i think it is where the vibration is but i cannot confirm it. I also see it all the time because i simply know it is right there. At my case, there are other 2 spots but not seen so easy.
I only hope not to get bigger. I wish i knew what caused this so to be carefull (such as sun exposure or something else - although i am REALLY careful as a person with my mobile phones). I cannot help you and i got really dissapointed after my long search on the web so i will have to live with that. It is hardware problem as i really tried everything to find out that.
Hope someone has any solution. It is not only on our phone but to others too. I hope the post won't get lost after some days!
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I have the exact same problem at the very same position as you point.
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That's so weird, I thought it was caused by an anonymous fall that I wasn't aware of, the other point is barely noticeable but it's at the top left.
Also, my upper speakers started to produce mixed loud and faint sounds when i play something whike the volume is below 25%.
It's winter, and I usually text near heatrrs, which made me think that the speakers problem was caused by the heater and the screen problem was caused by a particular fall.
Since the warranty is useless I've manually disassembled the phone and there's nothing behind that spot of screen except battery, the vibrator is way below the navkeys, there's no screen on the other side of it, which actually seems to prove that our spots are similar by coincidence, because there's no pressure on the other side except for battery, and I highly doubt yours is faulty, because mine isn't.
My z3+ single sim also has the spot at the same place, but it isnt that noticable since i use auto brightness, really weird, i thought because maybe of accidental high press when the phone was in my pocket.Anyway, I'll switch to XZ premium in december, that sh*t is dope
On the top left corner i have too! So it is not a coincidence. Something is there that you couldn't see when you opened it. I only hope it doens't get worse..
I have it too not only there also in the right bottom corner and a line of 1 centimeters like 1 inch bow in the left upper corner one day was not in there and to the other plaff they appear
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Now that multiple people have it, I started to suspect that there's actually something.
I might open if again when I can't live with it anymore, but for now I'll try to enjoy it as it's new, and hopefully won't get worse.
I have a z3 and z4 that also have these white spots..no way to fix. look up tv lcd problems your not gonna be able to fix....it gonna keep me from buying anymore sonys till they switch to oled.
I have the same problem in the same position and it was happen after a warranty repair.... Sony didn't have noticed it....
I think a lot of us have had our phone for about a month now, and this is my second OLED phone so I know how to treat it with more care in comparison to my old Moto Z Force. (look in the attachments ( :silly: ) [Ignore the cracks, they're on the glass screen protector, not the phone itself]
But, so far I haven't gotten any screen burn I on my Note 9 (I use an app called White to check it). I use about 50-60% brightness throughout the day and sometimes a little more during gaming and watching videos, an SOT of 30 secs, AOD is activated, so far so good.
What about everyone else?
Hey there .
You shouldn't check for screen burn in with this blue image
Try this dark green picture I will upload (use full screen brightness)
Or this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oledtools
I've noticed some strange pattern on my phone not sure if screen burn in or faulty oled panel
I'll have an eye on it
None here had since release but then again I run full immersive mode so that always helps
One month old note 9 it's a shame
And I have no clue why
None of my apps have such an layout
Screen off time is 15 seconds and after I had screen burn in on my s8 I was really careful on my note
But I have to admit I am really not sure if this is really screen burn in or maybe structure stuff of the phone or the panel
I opened every app and I have no app that have this layout or anywhere close to it
wer wo was said:
One month old note 9 it's a shame
And I have no clue why
None of my apps have such an layout
Screen off time is 15 seconds and after I had screen burn in on my s8 I was really careful on my note
But I have to admit I am really not sure if this is really screen burn in or maybe structure stuff of the phone or the panel
I opened every app and I have no app that have this layout or anywhere close to it
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Yeah that burn-in looks insanely weird, assuming if it even is burn in. I tried OLED tools and didn't notice any burn in on my panel there either thankfully, however I did try your dark green image on my phone and even at 100% brightness the picture looks black.
EDIT: Okay you're supposed to look at this in COMPLETE darkness, and I do see the green on my phone now, and from the looks of things I still don't see anything in particular burned into my panel. Though, is the picture supposed to be darker at the bottom than it is at the top?
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Yeah that burn-in looks insanely weird, assuming if it even is burn in. I tried OLED tools and didn't notice any burn in on my panel there either thankfully, however I did try your dark green image on my phone and even at 100% brightness the picture looks black.
EDIT: Okay you're supposed to look at this in COMPLETE darkness, and I do see the green on my phone now, and from the looks of things I still don't see anything in particular burned into my panel. Though, is the picture supposed to be darker at the bottom than it is at the top?
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Yeah I am also not sure might be the panel maybe structure thing (really checked every app for a similar pattern but there is none and I've seen burn in before I know what's causing it)
Sorry should have told you have to look at it in complete darkness
And nope the image should be everywhere the same green
Should be a slight green so the green pixels are just turned on a little bit
You should check the app I posted in the first post it's very useful to check for burn in or any other stuff maybe you can also post results j am really curious
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Yeah I am also not sure might be the panel maybe structure thing (really checked every app for a similar pattern but there is none and I've seen burn in before I know what's causing it)
Sorry should have told you have to look at it in complete darkness
And nope the image should be everywhere the same green
Should be a slight green so the green pixels are just turned on a little bit
You should check the app I posted in the first post it's very useful to check for burn in or any other stuff maybe you can also post results j am really curious
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Well, oddly enough the green image is a "bright" green at the top of my phone and gradually fades to black toward the bottom, but this isn't anything I can see in any other program I use. I used OLED tools but it seems to just be an app to swap through colors? I can do that using White
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Well, oddly enough the green image is a "bright" green at the top of my phone and gradually fades to black toward the bottom, but this isn't anything I can see in any other program I use. I used OLED tools but it seems to just be an app to swap through colors? I can do that using White
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Yeah for me this pattern thing is also not visible (ATM I wish I never looked for this thread )only if you really "want" to see it
No no oled tools offers you different stuff in the main menu the first one it the one to test the panel
In this mode you can swipe to change the "brightness" of the color/pixels
And single tap shows a button to change color
Edit: so for me only the green pixels have this weird pattern blue and red are fine
My note 8 has some burn in ghosting from watching YouTube in non landscape mode. It's not horrible but its there for sure. Going to try to be a little more careful this time around. Also you tube didnt uave a dark mode until recently either. Not sure if dark mode will help
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My note 8 has some burn in ghosting from watching YouTube in non landscape mode. It's not horrible but its there for sure. Going to try to be a little more careful this time around. Also you tube didnt uave a dark mode until recently either. Not sure if dark mode will help
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What kind of burn in you gout from YouTube ? Like where the video is or the down below ?
Cause I thought about that a few times and my s8 kind of stated that
Using black theme or so gives you kind of reverse screen burn in
So the part that is black wont burn in for sure but the other pixels that are on those are aging faster then those that are off because of black
So you will see that after a time
Call me crazy here but that's what my s8 had
I had black navbar and at the end the navbar was like reversed burned in because those pixels were not that often used then the other ones
That's what ive noticed
Ify theory is wrong correct me
wer wo was said:
One month old note 9 it's a shame
And I have no clue why
None of my apps have such an layout
Screen off time is 15 seconds and after I had screen burn in on my s8 I was really careful on my note
But I have to admit I am really not sure if this is really screen burn in or maybe structure stuff of the phone or the panel
I opened every app and I have no app that have this layout or anywhere close to it
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I have this very same weird pattern visible on dark screens on my Note 9. Must be the panel or something else behind the screen. Thought I was the only one, but apparently not... Not sure what's going on.
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I would really like to know what's causing this. My phone is also only a month old. This device is too expensive to have this kind of issue with the screen this early. What's weird is that I noticed it several days ago but then apparently it went away, but came back today.
I'm stumped.
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If this is affecting several users and their devices, then Samsung has a defective screen on their hands and needs to be made aware it! Please guys, let me know your findings and/or solutions to this. I can't see it at all on white or brightly colored screens. Only on certain dark ones.
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I have this very same weird pattern visible on dark screens on my Note 9. Must be the panel or something else behind the screen. Thought I was the only one, but apparently not... Not sure what's going on.
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I would really like to know what's causing this. My phone is also only a month old. This device is too expensive to have this kind of issue with the screen this early. What's weird is that I noticed it several days ago but then apparently it went away, but came back today.
I'm stumped.
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If this is affecting several users and their devices, then Samsung has a defective screen on their hands and needs to be made aware it! Please guys, let me know your findings and/or solutions to this. I can't see it at all on white or brightly colored screens. Only on certain dark ones.
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So confirmed I am not the only one
Could you also post pictures of your screen like I did ? Would be interesting
These windows is where is most noticeable. Also has a very faint line under the top video box
I experienced burn-in on my Note 8 and S7 edge. Both were caused from a combination of having auto brightness enabled, along with heavy usage of YouTube while on my daily drives. I would have my phone attached to a car mount sitting on the air vents. While driving, the different lighting angles of the day would cause my screen to trigger daylight mode. I found out the hard way, that long periods of daylight mode watching videos was creating a burn-in on my screen. With this being a common problem, you would think that Samsung would consider this problem by allowing users more control on adjusting the daylight mode settings a bit more. Since then, I'm currently using "Screen Brightness Control(F-Lux)" to auto maintain a screen brightness between 35% - 70%. So far no burn-in on my note 9.
I've used the OLED tools and other tools to check burn in and it seems that i don't have any burn-in whatsoever, not even on the more used areas like the nav bar or notification bar. I use a system wide Amoled black theme that i created from the ThemeGalaxy app. I frequently run in fullscreen mode (or atleast try to) with a transparent nav bar with translucent icons. I typically have my brightness in the mid to high range but rarely full brightness. Even my most frequent used apps and system apps are completely black for the background and i use Vanced Youtube for the Amoled black background. Hope this helps for those that want to slow screen burn-in.
Today I am really just confused ?
Yesterday I showed you this dot pattern in my screen specials on the green pixels
Today thought like "take another look"
And it's gone
Everything is working like it should be
I have no clue why
Didn't change anything (only thing that comes to mind first is battery charge I will have a look again later)
But it's just gone
no dots nothing at all
Someone in this thread also said it disappeared and comes back
So let's investigate what's causing it
wer wo was said:
Today I am really just confused ?
Yesterday I showed you this dot pattern in my screen specials on the green pixels
Today thought like "take another look"
And it's gone
Everything is working like it should be
I have no clue why
Didn't change anything (only thing that comes to mind first is battery charge I will have a look again later)
But it's just gone
no dots nothing at all
Someone in this thread also said it disappeared and comes back
So let's investigate what's causing it
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Yep, mine has done the very same thing. I think it has to do with when the phone gets hot and the water cooling system is activated... but that's just a wild guess. Will take many who are having the same issue to investigate and test it out.
This thread reminded me to shift my desktop icons around.
I had burn in on my previous Note 8 that had them stuck on the main screen.
Possibly a combination of Auto Brightness and Super Crazy Outside Brightness.
- Which I just remembered to turn off.
So...Keep your eyes OPEN!
hkjxda said:
Yep, mine has done the very same thing. I think it has to do with when the phone gets hot and the water cooling system is activated... but that's just a wild guess. Will take many who are having the same issue to investigate and test it out.
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As far as I know there is nothing to be activated with water cooling
This super carbon water cooling thing is just marketing bull**** ?
The note 9 have a noticeable bigger heat pipe than other phones and that's all
No real magic (search on YouTube "note 9 Jerry")
Yesterday I took the pictures with low battery state so I will drain battery now to the same amount and check
And also check your heat idea
Let's have a look
Use the displayed tester app by brainstree to check for screen burn in. Especially use the grey #8080 test card color. You can also adjust the brightness level by swiping the up or down . Normally the grey will show defects well.
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Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
Never understood how people managed with burn ins. Well, stop watching a static picture with 100% brightness for 5hrs in a row is a good start.
i have owned more than a dozen samsung products with amoled screens, never had burn in on one of them. I always keep the screen very bright because my eyesight isnt that great. the one lg amoled phone i owned had terrible screen burn
The factors involved are: heat (ext), brightness (curr), uneven degradation rate of each color (rgb), persistent elements, and age (of panel). If half a screen is black and the other is blue, at max brightness, the blue subpixels are under the most stress. Their decay rate will overshadow the resting blue lights - plus that of green and red.
5yrs from now you're going to look at an all white image. Half of it will look awful.
Thanks guys, but not really helping, are you?
Fall asleep once with your phone under your face and you'll have a burn in your amoled screen. Probably many other ways.
This is a common issue that most people don't even notice.
I get how it happens. I'm looking for ways to prevent it.
Setting a screen timeout is helpful
Had every Samsung for years and never had this, so I've no idea.
Maybe some people don't have a screen timeout and fall asleep sometimes dunno
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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I don't remember that. I know they had it on their Plasma TVs. I thought the Pixel phones with OLED screens also had it but don't know about Samsung phones. I do think that 99.9% of people that use a phone normally will never experience burn-in for the time they own the phone.
Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
No way am I turning stuff off to avoid something I've never seen
900 quid to have to suffer immersive mode utter lols, if I have to did that I'll sell it
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I also honestly don't know what you're talking about. I've had s3, s5, s7, s9 and now to s10. Never had anything of the sort and since s7 I've been using AOD. Nothing happend. For the love of me I can't imagine how you may have had anything wrong with the display....
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Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
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Exactly, it's always the status bar. I think there is no immersive mode on s10+ yet, but I removed all the icons.
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Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
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THANK YOU
I'm pretty sure many think they never had a burn in on their precious amoled screen, but they actually had.
Well they probably aren't looking for it that closely
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lumiden said:
Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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You can set the schedule for the time for the AOD is active and either use the AOD auto brightness option or set the brightness lower, if that helps you feel more confident with it. The movement should help avoid issues.
FWIW, I used AOD with my previous phone without any issue and I anticipate the same with this one.
My burn in issue was only with the games & YouTube as noted.
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This is my main issue with AMOLED screens. They look nice but they wear out. The nature of Android means they will wear out unevenly which is why people see burn in. The wearing out of your screen is cumulative. Meaning that it isn't like an old CRT TV where it would take weeks of a static image to burn in but just showing the same image over time day in and day out. The only way to prevent it is to use the entire screen with moving images, like full screen movies, so that the panel wears evenly.
The status bar and navigation bar tend to be on the screen all the time those images will burn in first. Dark mode can also cause issues because if the area is dark it isn't being used and if it isn't being used it will look brighter than other areas that were used more frequently. The s10 has a full screen mode option for some apps. Some apps like Netflix will show the full screen movie even around the camera cutout and that is ideal. Youtube will also allow you to zoom in and show the video around the camera. cutout Chrome and the Samsung browser keep the status bar but it will change colors based on the site and if the bar is white it will invert the status icons which will help keep the panel wearing evenly. I have the dolphin browser which runs in full screen but the top portion of the panel is not used so that is less than ideal.
Auto brightness can be used but in the bright sun that panel is wearing much faster. The screen time out should be set to 15 seconds. These panels are designed to look great but not be super durable and in many cases that's what Samsung wants. They benefit when you have to buy a new device. It's sad to say but its business.