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I made this thread so that you guys can take a final decision on this one.If the Nexus 4 is better than 'that' device,how good the Nexus 4 is.Hopefully this thread will help you decide on such things.So,lets get back to the topic.
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A small description about the device(as XDA describes it,all credits to them)
The LG-built Google Nexus 4 is powered by a 1.5 GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro processor, featuring four Krait cores and the class-leading Adreno 320 GPU. In addition to the fast processor, the Nexus 4 also packs 2 GB of RAM and either 8 or 16 GB of internal storage. The device also features a 4.7″ 720p display, delivering 320 ppi. Most importantly, the Nexus 4 is one of the two lead devices for Android 4.2, the revamped version of Jelly Bean.
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What will this thread contain?
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This thread will cover the following topics:
1.Detailed Specifications(done by eep2378)
2.Reviews from professional review sites such as GSMArena,Engadget,CNET,etc.(done by eep2378)
3.User reviews from people over here at xda
4.Video section which would contain hands-on videos and video reviews from professional guys(done by eep2378)
5.FAQcontaining content, both development-related and general information
More sections might be added in the future but that will happen only when the current sections are completed.
Disclaimer:Neither me nor eep2378 is responsible if you brick your device using some sort of a method after following this thread.Not that there is anything in here that can brick your phone, but still..
PROFESSIONAL REVIEWS
Other more formal reviews will follow as they become available(i.e Cnet,BGR,Engagdet,GSMarena, etc)
This is from Computer World, not a real review but does have some insight into what we can expect
Here: http://blogs.computerworld.com/smar...up-amazing-no-4g-lte-verizon-or-sprint-itbwcw
Engadget official Review: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review/
The Verge Review: http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2/3589280/google-nexus-4-review
Slashgear Review(Vincent Nguyen): http://www.slashgear.com/nexus-4-review-02255292/
Abcnews Review: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ne...roid-phone-major-tradeoff/t/story?id=17625276
Cnet Review: http://reviews.cnet.com/lg-nexus-4/
Telegraph(UK) Review: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9651268/Google-Nexus-4-review.html
Techcrunch Review: http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/02/nexus-4-review-not-exactly-perfect-but-close-enough-for-me/
Gizmodo Review: http://updates.gizmodo.com/post/34831233868/google-nexus-4-review-yes-you-want-this-phone-by
Ubergizmo Review: http://updates.gizmodo.com/post/34831233868/google-nexus-4-review-yes-you-want-this-phone-by
Wired Review: http://www.wired.com/reviews/2012/11/google-nexus-4/
Androidcommunity Review: http://androidcommunity.com/lg-nexus-4-review-20121102/
Laptopmag Review: http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphone/google-nexus-4.aspx
NBCnews.com Review: http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/nexus-4-review-amazing-phone-deal-breaker-flaw-1C6845378
Cnet UK Review: http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/google-nexus-4-review-50009629/
TechHive Review: http://www.techhive.com/article/201...-offers-great-specs-but-bad-battery-life.html
TechRadar Review: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/google-nexus-4-1108999/review/1#articleContent
Business Insider Review: http://www.businessinsider.com/nexus-4-review-2012-11
All things D Review: http://allthingsd.com/20121106/nexus-4-is-a-great-value-with-small-improvements/
Android Central Review: http://m.androidcentral.com/lg-nexus-4-review
Android police Review: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...premium-flagship-phone-that-android-deserves/
BGR Review: http://bgr.com/2012/11/08/google-nexus-4-review/
Ars Technica Review:http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/nexus-4-two-thirds-of-a-great-phone/
Stuff Review: http://www.stuff.tv/review/google-nexus-4
Anandtech Review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review
Mobile Syrup Review: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/11/19/google-nexus-4-review-video/
Android Central Review(Second look): http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-nexus-4-second-opinion?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
GMSarena Review: http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_4-review-860.php
HANDS ON VIDEOS/PREVIEWS
Here is where you can find all the hands-on videos and previews with regard to the Nexus 4: More will be added as they become available
Perhaps the most comprehensive one we have to date was done by The Verge, its 15:00 and very informative. Can be found here:
The Verge Video Review:
Nexus vs Lumia 920 vs Xperia T:
Here is an ongoing discussion with Phil Nickinson of Android Central(he's had an N4 for a few days now): http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...ave-nexus-4-you-have-questions-fire-away.html
Hands on look(German), some nice close ups:
Hands on and VS LG Optimus L9:
Another review:
USER REVIEW
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No user reviews currently available as the phone is not yet available.
DETAILED SPECIFICATIONS
Here is where you will find detailed specification regarding the Nexus 4
Nexus 4 complete specs:
Screen4.7” 1280×768 (320ppi)
WXGA, HD IPS+
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2
SizeH: 5.27 in (133.9 mm)
W: 2.7 in (68.7 mm)
D: 0.36 in (9.1 mm)
Weight0.31 lbs (139 g)
CamerasMain: 8MP BSI sensor, 1080p video
Front: 1.3MP, 720p video
Face recognition
Memory8GB or 16GB (formatted capacity will be less)
ChipsetQualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro 1.5GHz (Adreno 320 GPU)
RAM2GB
SensorsAccelerometer, Compass, Ambient light, Proximity, Gyroscope, Pressure, GPS
NetworkUnlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 42 Mbps
Wireless display on a Miracast compatible HD TV
Dual-band Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n)
Bluetooth
NFC (Android Beam)
PowerWireless charging (use any Qi-compatible charger)
2,100 mAH Li-polymer battery
Standby: up to 250 hours
Talk time: up to 10 hours
Music playback: up to 40 hours
Video playback: up to 8 hours
Web browsing: up to 7 hours
OSAndroid Jelly Bean (4.2)
For a complete comprehensive technical breakdown I would recommend checking out l0st.prophet thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850
Here is another specs review/preview done by phonearena with some pretty good insight:http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-N...s-Nexus-crush-Samsungs-Next-Big-Thing_id36102
FAQ
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Is it possible to root this phone?
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No root methods exist for this phone,as of now.You can be pretty sure that they will show up after some time after the phone is launched
Is the boot loader locked?
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Bootloader, certainly is unlockable.Same process as other Nexus devices. For more information, watch http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?amp=&f...i=/watch?v=532sQpllDl8&feature=plcp&gl=GB
Thanks to raze for the link
Are any custom ROMs available for this device?
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Currently,No custom roms are available for this device as it hasn't been launched.
Any custom recoveries available for this device?
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Nope,none currently.Check this link for the full list of ROMs,kernels,guides and even more when they start showing up. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975842
What's the model number?
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Model number for the Nexus 4 is E960
What do you mean by 'Nexus'? I have never heard of it before
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The nexus line of devices is a line of devices that are produced by Google, partnered with hardware manufacturers such as LG and Samsung.They come with vanilla android, i.e. no skins like TouchWiz and Sense.Another factor that makes these devices so famous is that they receive support directly from Google, so they get updates for a long time, unlike normal devices from manufacturers
What's the codename for the device?
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Its Mako from what I hear
I heard the battery is not removable.Anyway I can remove it?
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The battery is removable,though not really easy..Check out this link for some preview into this
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/12jze2/nexus_4_battery_may_not_be_so_hard_to_replace_acc/
More things will be added here and linked to as development for the device starts
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That's good news !
Make it fast
It's coming along
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It's coming along
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Ya..Once some reviews and videos come up, we should be good to go with this one.
Controversies,controversies everywhere :what:
Updated with Engadget's official review
Edit: All major reviews added(as of now)
I think it's safe to say so far (Nov 2) at least, none of the reviews is reliable because they are running pre-release softwares.
Updated with video review from The Verge
All nexus devices have used the same method for rooting IIRC, and the bootloader has already been unlocked on AndroidCentral's review unit.
Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
Future sticky, I reckon. Good work guys
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All nexus devices have used the same method for rooting IIRC, and the bootloader has already been unlocked on AndroidCentral's review unit.
Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
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Are you sure about that? Some links maybe? So that I can add it to the OP
Controversies,controversies everywhere :what:
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Are you sure about that? Some links maybe? So that I can add it to the OP
Controversies,controversies everywhere :what:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=532sQpllDl8&feature=plcp
I imagine the other stuff will be the same too. So from start to finish:
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery _____.img
Then flash superuser.
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EDIT: A new review from NBC, they say battery life is very good: http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/nexus-4-review-amazing-phone-deal-breaker-flaw-1C6845378
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphone/google-nexus-4.aspx
Laptopmag review they also talk about the sound quality
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http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphone/google-nexus-4.aspx
Laptopmag review they all talk about the sound quality
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Thanks. I'll add it
There are some reviews that mention call quality/sound as being a weak point. This review actually says the opposite.
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Thanks. I'll add it
There are some reviews that mention call quality/sound as being a weak point. This review actually says the opposite.
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I'm getting fed up of all this.. I just want to read real reviews of official devices.
Which is
Better Screen?
Latest?
Fastest?
More Developer/upgradable?
pros and cons of the two?
Please post in the correct section and use search. There are several threads on this already
There are a LOT of similar threads. But ill answer this very shortly:
Better Screen? - T
Latest? - T
Fastest? - Unsure (should be identical)
More Developer/upgradable? - T
pros and cons of the two? - Search
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There are a LOT of similar threads. But ill answer this very shortly:
Better Screen? - T
Latest? - T
Fastest? - Unsure (should be identical)
More Developer/upgradable? - T
pros and cons of the two? - Search
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Based on gsmarena:
V has Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon, while T has Qualcomm MSM8260A.
Better screen? V recognizes 10 fingers while T - only 4.
V has Bravia Engine 2, T has Bravia Engine.
720 x 1280 pixels, 4.3 inches (~342 ppi pixel density) vs 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.55 inches (~323 ppi pixel density)
I read somewhere that V has 2 layers screen instead of the 3 layers screens used so far resulting in a thinner screen.
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Based on gsmarena:
V has Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon, while T has Qualcomm MSM8260A.
Better screen? V recognizes 10 fingers while T - only 4.
V has Bravia Engine 2, T has Bravia Engine.
720 x 1280 pixels, 4.3 inches (~342 ppi pixel density) vs 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.55 inches (~323 ppi pixel density)
I read somewhere that V has 2 layers screen instead of the 3 layers screens used so far resulting in a thinner screen.
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I think different version of T have different specs. I got my information from here when I thought of buying the phone: http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/08/31/specifications-compared-xperia-ttx-vs-xperia-v-vs-xperia-j/
As for the multitouch. Mine supports 10 fingers I don't know why GSM arena would put that us
I forgot that the latest update brought BE2. But apart from that I doubt the other things would make a visible difference in the screen quality, especially the difference in PPI.
I see. That's something I haven't seen before
In that case the only pros for the Xperia V are the water/dust resistance and the Bluetooth 4.0 (as of me as a user I don't care much about Bluetooth version). Probably LTE too.
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I see. That's something I haven't seen before
In that case the only pros for the Xperia V are the water/dust resistance and the Bluetooth 4.0 (as of me as a user I don't care much about Bluetooth version). Probably LTE too.
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Yeah those and Bravia 2. Anyway doubt he even cares anymore
Was testing Asphalt 8 today, and noticed that gameplay was more or less the same as it was in the Note 2. Seems like we're reaching a plateau in the world of mobile technology.
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Was testing Asphalt 8 today, and noticed that gameplay was more or less the same as it was in the Note 2. Seems like we're reaching plateau in what can be done in mobile technology.
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Isn't Asphalt 8 locked at 30fps?
Anyway,youve got all those extra pixels to render with the Note 4,it will stress the CPU/GPU more. I believe Annandtechs tests showed that running the S805 with a 2k screen gave similar performance to running the S800 with a 1080screen.
I forgot to think from that perspective. Seems like the game is locked at 30fps. I really see no use of those extra pixels and thus unnecessary battery drain though I've achieved over 3 days with the standard battery.
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Isn't Asphalt 8 locked at 30fps?
Anyway,youve got all those extra pixels to render with the Note 4,it will stress the CPU/GPU more. I believe Annandtechs tests showed that running the S805 with a 2k screen gave similar performance to running the S800 with a 1080screen.
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arjun90 said:
I forgot to think from that perspective. Seems like the game is locked at 30fps. I really see no use of those extra pixels and thus unnecessary battery drain though I've achieved over 3 days with the standard battery.
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There's only going to be more pixels, wait for 4k phones at the end of this year!
4K on a small screen is crippling when think in terms of battery drain. Wonder what the future of battery technology will bring to the table.
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There's only going to be more pixels, wait for 4k phones at the end of this year!
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I feel you. I've also upgraded from note 2 (which is now with my wife). Really, other than a better scree/ pixel density, I don't see much in the Note 4. May thinner profile/ better build quality. I still feel that the camera is downgraded (except for the fact that the note 4 has better control over spherical aberration). I really miss the macro mode in the note 4. Gaming, as you already mentioned, isn't any different.
I see the camera at fault as well. Not defective, but in low-light, tends to get grainy without the flash. Perhaps I haven't taken enough low-light pictures w/o flash with my Note 2 to notice this. For outdoors, the HDR modes works great with the Note 4; I do like the ability to enhance the photo, edit, and get creative. Software, there are some things I miss, especially Quick Glance, and features in the Galaxy S4, which I never got to experience, not that those software features are gimmicky.
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I feel you. I've also upgraded from note 2 (which is now with my wife). Really, other than a better scree/ pixel density, I don't see much in the Note 4. May thinner profile/ better build quality. I still feel that the camera is downgraded (except for the fact that the note 4 has better control over spherical aberration). I really miss the macro mode in the note 4. Gaming, as you already mentioned, isn't any different.
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You may need to get your eyes checked lol massive difference
Asphalt 8 is not locked at 30fps, the note 4 Exynos during game gives around 60fps while Snapdragon 45fps.
The Note 3 Snapdragon is around 30fps.
You can test the FPS whit the app "Gamebench". It needs root.
Lodix said:
Asphalt 8 is not locked at 30fps, the note 4 Exynos during game gives around 60fps while Snapdragon 45fps.
The Note 3 Snapdragon is around 30fps.
You can test the FPS whit the app "Gamebench". It needs root.
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Lodix,
Thanks for the plug mate Just a note - GameBench doesn't require root - you can launch it using our desktop launcher just fine If you have root we can launch it for you.
Cheers,
Jake Daynes
Head of Web Development
GameBench Ltd.
Confirmed 60fps. The massive difference is only on the display quality, not the game play; subtle differences only.
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You may need to get your eyes checked lol massive difference
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Confirmed 60fps. The massive difference is only on the display quality, not the game play; subtle differences only.
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Seems like OP is on cloud 9.
LOL. :silly: I was just basing this on various articles I came across on Google, can't confirm real world value, unless I perform the diagnostics. Though Antutu does mention my overall score to be 49,888. My Note 2 only reached 18,000. Seems odd that the real world performance difference is subtle. Forget gaming, my Note 4 does feel a lot smoother and I can keep more apps running in the background compared to the Note 2.
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Seems like OP is on cloud 9.
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dude Note 2 with mali 400 can play almost every game around 30fps @720p but Note driving x4 the amount of pixels which needs a lot of power + adreno drivers sucks and games always run better on non adreno GPUs like mali , Powervr
anyway i don't think any android game support 1440p or even 1080p natively they are just get up scaled i think which is just wasting of gpu/cpu power if android allows user to change the res of the game like windows that would be great
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That's why I miss the Mali / Exynos combination. Hopefully, my next Galaxy device will feature this.
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dude Note 2 with mali 400 can play almost every game around 30fps @720p but Note driving x4 the amount of pixels which needs a lot of power + adreno drivers sucks and games always run better on non adreno GPUs like mali , Powervr
anyway i don't think any android game support 1440p or even 1080p natively they are just get up scaled i think which is just wasting of gpu/cpu power if android allows user to change the res of the game like windows that would be great
[email protected] > [email protected]
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Confirmed 60fps. The massive difference is only on the display quality, not the game play; subtle differences only.
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Can you share a screenshot ??
As some of you might be aware Google's awesome camera software with HDR+ was ported to devices running Snapdragon 820/821/835 devices. Now I know for fact we couldn't port that version to our Moto X. Even if could it would cook our CPUs.
But what about the older version of HDR+ that's on the Nexus 6? Can it be ported? It makes a huuuuugggggggeeeee difference in the quality on photos like night and day. Google's photo processing is leaps and bounds better than any other.
Been wondering this for a while as well. I believe it could be done.
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Been wondering this for a while as well. I believe it could be done.
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Do you know which Snapdragon 800/801 device has the biggest development scene? Maybe prodding over there would be better, if it works for them it will work for us.
Are you talking about the oneplus one? I loved using the old version of google camera and would even like a 3+ version available to everyone. I wonder why google would limit the app exposure?
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Do you know which Snapdragon 800/801 device has the biggest development scene? Maybe prodding over there would be better, if it works for them it will work for us.
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The description on the main page only has info on the Mediatek version. I have the US version with the Snapdragon, 32GB storage, and 2GB RAM. Is there a US version forum, or are they both in this one? Just asking before I post in case I'm in the wrong one.
Main page: The 2017 Moto E4 Plus is the larger version of the E4 series from Motorola. The 5.5" display has a screen resolution of 720 x 1280 pixels. The Mediatek MT6737 chipset has a quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 CPU and a Mali-T720 GPU. There are 16GB of internal storage and 3GB of RAM. The back facing camera has a 13MP sensor and the selfie camera is 5MP. The massive 5000 mAh battery comes with fast charging.
I think should have separate topics from mediatek and qualcom variants.
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The description on the main page only has info on the Mediatek version. I have the US version with the Snapdragon, 32GB storage, and 2GB RAM. Is there a US version forum, or are they both in this one? Just asking before I post in case I'm in the wrong one.
Main page: The 2017 Moto E4 Plus is the larger version of the E4 series from Motorola. The 5.5" display has a screen resolution of 720 x 1280 pixels. The Mediatek MT6737 chipset has a quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 CPU and a Mali-T720 GPU. There are 16GB of internal storage and 3GB of RAM. The back facing camera has a 13MP sensor and the selfie camera is 5MP. The massive 5000 mAh battery comes with fast charging.
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agreed as I'm not seeing any twrp or root for the snapdragon version here which is odd.
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agreed as I'm not seeing any twrp or root for the snapdragon version here which is odd.
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I see you were asking in the E4 forums. I have an E4 snapdragon variant. Like your E4 plus, there are mediatek and qcom variants both in the same thread and it's very confusing and frustrating. I don't know why this happens, but I'm afraid both these forums are going to end up like the Moto E 2015 forums which had the same problem with otus and surnia variants which were both completely different. I'd really like to see this changed before things go much further and the different variants getting their own threads. Looking at the qcom E4 plus, it's almost the same as the qcom E4 so I think the root method for that should work for the plus. It looks like the only difference is the bigger battery and 13mp rear camera compared to an 8mp.
Edit: twrp for the qcom E4 plus should be easily built with sources for perry by @squid2.
Edit-2: if your really desperate, we were booting a G5 twrp with fastboot boot recovery *.img then flash Magisk v14.2 and a zip you can find in the E4 section to disable dm-verity and force-encrypt. Should work just as well with the perry twrp.
So, I put in a request to have both the E4 and E4 plus qcom and mediatek devices separated. We'll see what happens.
amarc78 said:
So, I put in a request to have both the E4 and E4 plus qcom and mediatek devices separated. We'll see what happens.
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Do you currently have any news about this?
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Do you currently have any news about this?
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They made a separate development section for the E4, but only made special rules that you have to specify qcom or mtk when starting a thread for the rest of it. I mentioned doing this here also, but was either forgotten or ignored I guess. I was planning in getting one of these also, that's why I posted here to begin with. You might want to contact a mod and request it before things get any further since the more content a thread has, the less likely they'll be to go for moving things around.
Edit: I don't know if any of you guys know it or not, but you should all be very happy pretty soon. This is all I have to say about it, so don't ask.?
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They made a separate development section for the E4, but only made special rules that you have to specify qcom or mtk when starting a thread for the rest of it. I mentioned doing this here also, but was either forgotten or ignored I guess. I was planning in getting one of these also, that's why I posted here to begin with. You might want to contact a mod and request it before things get any further since the more content a thread has, the less likely they'll be to go for moving things around.
Edit: I don't know if any of you guys know it or not, but you should all be very happy pretty soon. This is all I have to say about it, so don't ask.?
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Can we please at least have a hint?
Xt1776
Hey there. I have read through many posts about the Moto E4 Plus. I have yet to see anyone mention XT1776. Will XT1770/5/4 methods work on the XT1776 model?
I am on Boost Mobile.
wickEwoo said:
Hey there. I have read through many posts about the Moto E4 Plus. I have yet to see anyone mention XT1776. Will XT1770/5/4 methods work on the XT1776 model?
I am on Boost Mobile.
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no. 1776 is seperate
wickEwoo said:
Hey there. I have read through many posts about the Moto E4 Plus. I have yet to see anyone mention XT1776. Will XT1770/5/4 methods work on the XT1776 model?
I am on Boost Mobile.
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Your in the wrong place. Look here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4-plus
Sent from my Moto E (4) using XDA Labs
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no. 1776 is seperate
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Thanks! I was able to get as far as unlocking the bootloader and that's it. Haha
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ROGGGER3G said:
I think should have separate topics from mediatek and qualcom variants.
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Definitely Agree. I suggest adding [SD]-for Snapdragon and [MT]-for Mediatek devices. Keep it in the subject name at the very least so its a clear signification.
Please help me figure this out.
I unlocked, rooted and flashed a custom ROM on my phone. But as it didn't have Volte I reflashed the stock rom. But ever since the baseband version is unknown and no sim is being detected. I am using XT1770 Moto E4 Plus Indian Version. Please help....