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Root stock Lollipop 5.0.2 with Kingroot & Super-Sume .......no tripping Knox

SM-T700 UK version stock 5.0.2
1. Root using Kingroot 4.5
2. ONLY now !!! install and run Super-Sume
3. Update SuperSu binaries
That's all : you have root, SuperSu and Knox still "O" and Kingroot it's gone...
Would people please post the full build version of the firmware they have success or failure with, so others are aware of which ones work.

has this method been verified by other users?
Share your experience please!

It's brand new...
Verified by myself

Have you maintained root after reboot?

ashyx said:
Already tried it, v4.5 is posted in my kingroot thread, didn't work on lollipop for t805.
Neither did supersu me, binary always fails to update, once it did manage after several tries, but root is lost after reboot.
Supersu me is just the same script as posted in the kingroot thread. Root always lost after reboot.
Have you maintained root after reboot?
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Just following your thread, messing with Kingroot 4.5 (from your tread) I obtained root.
Also someone there suggesting SuperSume to remove Kingroot.
I use it and that's it
Yes the root it's permanent

stefan.pilsu said:
Just following your thread, messing with Kingroot 4.5 (from your tread) I obtained root.
Also someone there suggesting SuperSume to remove Kingroot.
I use it and that's it
Yes the root it's permanent
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Can you then install SuperSu or do you need to keep the SuperSume?
Anyone else confirm this method ?

louiscar said:
Can you then install SuperSu or do you need to keep the SuperSume?
Anyone else confirm this method ?
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Super-Sume install SuperSu
Update binaries and done

I waiting also others to confirm

stefan.pilsu said:
I waiting also others to confirm
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Ok Thanks for putting this up, if it's reliable it will save a lot time for many.

..guys try install first busy box while with kingo root, then install supersu. update binary. if successful,
..uninstall kingoroot . reboot supersu rules!!!!!!

angelshie said:
..guys try install first busy box while with kingo root, then install supersu. update binary. if successful,
..uninstall kingoroot . reboot supersu rules!!!!!!
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Super_Sume make all this "work" with one click !

Ok guys, thanks for confirming, Sweet

Thanks for the tip. This worked perfectly. I installed Kingroot 4.5. When Kingroot runs scroll down and press "Try it" and it rooted. I then immediately installed Busybox from the Google Play store and ran the smart installer. After a successful install of Busybox, I then installed Super-Sume from the Play store. I ran Super-Sume and it installed Super SU and removed Kingroot. After that, I opened Super SU and allowed it to update the binary. Rebooted. I checked root with Root Checker app and checked Knox with an app called Knox Status on the Play store. Root is still active and Knox is still at "0". I powered off, then restarted again. Root has stayed.
I did this on a brand new US region SM-T700 pulled straight from the box and updated to Lolilipop from OTA.
System Version:
SM-T700
LRX22G.T700XXU1BOE3

*ROOT WORKING !! SMT-700 OTA 'lollipop'

Confirmed working on Lollipop NEE-T805XXU1BOE3 firmware.
Reflashed back to complete stock then ran Kingroot v4.5, root succeeded first time.
Ran Supersu me to remove Kingroot and install Supersu then updated the su binary.
Rebooted then checked root status. Full root access still available.
No need to install busybox as Supersu me already installs busy box.
Looks like we have a winner, no need to downgrade to Kitkat any more. :good:
Hopefully now T807/707 users can now get root.
Credits go to the devs of Kingroot, Chainfire and Supersu me.

ashyx said:
Confirmed working on Lollipop T805XXU1BOE3 firmware.
Reflashed back to complete stock then ran Kingroot v4.5, root succeeded first time.
Ran Supersu me to remove Kingroot and install Supersu then updated the su binary.
Rebooted then checked root status. Full root access still available.
No need to install busybox as Supersu me already installs busy box.
Looks like we have a winner, no need to downgrade to Kitkat any more. :good:
Hopefully now T807/707 users can now get root.
Credits got to the devs of Kingroot, Chainfire and Supersu me.
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I've told you ...

ashyx said:
Confirmed working on Lollipop T805XXU1BOE3 firmware.
Reflashed back to complete stock then ran Kingroot v4.5, root succeeded first time.
Ran Supersu me to remove Kingroot and install Supersu then updated the su binary.
Rebooted then checked root status. Full root access still available.
No need to install busybox as Supersu me already installs busy box.
Looks like we have a winner, no need to downgrade to Kitkat any more. :good:
Hopefully now T807/707 users can now get root.
Credits go to the devs of Kingroot, Chainfire and Supersu me.
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It does not appear to work on T707a with 5.0.2.

Maybe ashyx could help.
What exactly didn't work for you ?

stefan.pilsu said:
I've told you ...
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Do you think this is likely to work for KitKat ANL1? I already downgraded as part of Ashyx's tutorial to ANF7.
My only reservation to going to Lollipop is that I want to use the Xposed framework which I think is still in it's infancy for 5.x or still not compatible.
So before this my options are to keep the original Kitkat by Flashfire - ANL1 or go directly to Lollipop. For the latter I could just get the OTA and do this method now. But not sure if I go to ANL1 kingroot will work as easily
If not I'll continue in the normal way I guess.

Once you have root with Kingroot install Super Sume and run it.
Kingroot 4.5 from ashyxs tread works for me.
Super-Sume just install busybox, SuperSu and get rid of Kingroot.
Why not use Flashfire to install whatever you want: KK or L ?

SuperSU 2.66 beta on Shamu

Please write your experience with SuperSU 2.60 / 2.61 / 2.62-3...2.66 on Shamu.
2.56 didn't work on my unlocked, unencrypted 6.0.0 (MRA58R)
Systemless 2.62-3 with works as a charm with my 6.0.1.
I dirty flashed 6.0.1 system.img and boot.img, then I flashed SuperSU 2.62-3 (in TWRP). I stayed unencrypted.
Xposed, ES File Explorer, Double tap 2 wake, Greenify, BetterBatteryStats ... work perfectly.
Edit:
2.62-3 works for some with 6.0.1. and with Android Pay

2.52 has been working fine for me since mm has been out, running on MRA58R now. Have not tried 2.6 but 2.49 was also working perfectly. If you need android pay to work then 2.6 or there are other options like custom ROMs that have it successfully working
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Running it here without issue. Also had it running on mra58r.
The only casualty I suppose was/is es file explorer. It could not gain root access for some reason.
I am rooted, unencrypted and have the latest Elite kernel.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Using 2.6.1 and brand new 6.0.1 fresh install and Android pay is working flawlessly!

Does anybody have a downloadlink for 2.61, can`t find it anywhere
Nevermind, found it.

gee2012 said:
Nevermind, found it.
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Adding the link to the post would have been useful!

f2 said:
Adding the link to the post would have been useful!
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Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/wip-android-6-0-marshmellow-t3219344. Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3568267&d=1449521348.

belek1979 said:
Please write your experience with SuperSU 2.60/2.61 on Shamu.
2.56 didn't work on my unlocked, unencrypted 6.0.0 (MRA58R)
Maybe 2.60/2.61 will work with 6.0.1?
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Although 2.61 is installed
TWRP says: no root
Root Explorer says: you are not rooted
Quick reboot says: no root

NLBeev said:
Although 2.61 is installed
TWRP says: no root
Root Explorer says: you are not rooted
Quick reboot says: no root
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Root Checker Pro, BusyBox Pro said i was rooted and the Franco FKU app has root too. Maybe its a problem with apps not adapted/compatible with systemless root (2.61) yet.

gee2012 said:
... Maybe its a problem with apps not adapted/compatible with systemless root (2.61) yet.
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I am using the lite Rom 6.0.1 of @Danvdh. Works, but with Franco's kernel (r35) installed, problems with the sim-card. (Not recognized).
Going back to 6.0...... Too many issues.

NLBeev said:
I am using the lite Rom 6.0.1 of @Danvdh. Works, but with Franco's kernel (r35) installed, problems with the sim-card. (Not recognized).
Going back to 6.0...... Too many issues.
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Well i`am on stock 6.0.1/TWRP/2.61/Franco r35 and so far no issues, everything working well :fingers-crossed:

gee2012 said:
Well i`am on stock 6.0.1/TWRP/2.61/Franco r35 and so far no issues, everything working well :fingers-crossed:
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Now back on 6.0. Will retry with a full wipe.

NLBeev said:
Now back on 6.0. Will retry with a full wipe.
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Good luck, from what i understand systemless root works best on stock.

gee2012 said:
Good luck, from what i understand systemless root works best on stock.
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Did a full wipe and flashed again the lite Rom 6.0.1 of Danvdh. This rom is stock based.
After reboot I restored the 6.0-data from a nandroid backup with TWRP. Root checker says 'no root'.
Now last try with full wipe and restore from Google.
At this moment my N6 is restoring the apps from Google take a long time, but root checker says there is root access.
So this update needs a complete wipe and factory reset.

NLBeev said:
Did a full wipe and flashed again the lite Rom 6.0.1 of Danvdh. This rom is stock based.
After reboot I restored the 6.0-data from a nandroid backup with TWRP. Root checker says 'no root'.
Now last try with full wipe and restore from Google.
At this moment my N6 is restoring the apps from Google take a long time, but root checker says there is root access.
So this update needs a complete wipe and factory reset.
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Maybe thats it, i didn`t mention i actualy did a full wipe prior to rooting.

gee2012 said:
Maybe thats it, i didn`t mention i actualy did a full wipe prior to rooting.
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I did some reading and trial with the lite rom of Danvdh. What seems important is that SuperSU 2.6x is flashed as the last file after flashing system stuff, like mods, kernel.

NLBeev said:
I did some reading and trial with the lite rom of Danvdh. What seems important is that SuperSU 2.6x is flashed as the last file after flashing system stuff, like mods, kernel.
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Yup, that what i did too. Thought you knew that

gee2012 said:
Yup, that what i did too. Thought you knew that
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It is logical, but I was too busy with trying to flash without wiping the data partition.

gee2012 said:
...about wiping data...
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I managed to update from M6.0 to M6.0.1 with data kept.
Important is that the system partition does not contain su-stuff of previous versions.
In TWRP I wiped the M 6.0 system and caches, but not the data.
Flashed the lite 6.0.1 rom of Danvdh;
Flashed Franco's kernel r35;
Flashed SuperSU 2.61;
Reboot - TWRP button 'do not install SU'.
Needed to restore settings (dpi), layers and the black themed apps of the TBO team.

I dirty flashed from stock rooted 6.0.0 to 6.0.1 today and rooted using Systemless 2.62-3. Everything is working great so far.

Root in 6.0.1

Hey guys! So I read around about rooting Android 6.0.1 and I only see systemless root. I am rooted right now using systemless root and it works fine, but my question is, is there a way to root 6.0.1 with traditional system root? Or is systemless the only way? Just curious really. Will systemless most likely be the future of rooting and the way it's going to have to be done from now on to keep Android Pay working?
Sent from my Nexus 6

I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.

StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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Thanks for the response! And I wonder if it will be what it is for now! It's the only way to keep Android Pay working while the device is rooted correct? Android Pay refuses to work with a traditionally rooted device?
Sent from my Nexus 6

StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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I did. I still use SU2.52. But only until this weekend. I'm switching to systemless too.
Actually building a permissive kernel is really straightforward, needs one line of code added. The build is about five minuters then with abootimg you can just replace the existing with the newly buil kernel in the boot.img, and flash it.
I can give you details if you're interested.

Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.

kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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Mine works perfectly.

kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
Sent from my Nexus 6

Krzysiek_CK said:
Mine works perfectly.
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How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
H4X0R46 said:
The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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I tested 2.61, is problem fixed in 2.62.3? because I must flash 6.0.1 and setup phone again!

i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.

simms22 said:
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
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Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
Sent from my Nexus 6

H4X0R46 said:
Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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ive no use for pay, so never tried. i assume its broken..

Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.

carmatana said:
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
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What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.

H4X0R46 said:
What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again

carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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I would say yes, I'm 90% sure but could be wrong. I would flash the a new update with fastboot.

carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Any mod stops ota's. Root, kernels....You will have to flash full images to get updates. You can skip the userdata part and save your apps and data. But you will have to flash.
Not a big deal, it an extra couple of commands just like the kernel you want to flash.

Thanks!

kamkar said:
How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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Clean 6.0.1 followed by systemless root installation as expained in the Root done right thread.

Flashable OTA?

When I had my Nexus 5 people would make flashable OTA files to be used in TWRP, is no one doing this any longer? All I can find is how to sideload the OTA.
Thanks

idbl_fanatic said:
When I had my Nexus 5 people would make flashable OTA files to be used in TWRP, is no one doing this any longer? All I can find is how to sideload the OTA.
Thanks
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just flash the boot.img and system.img in twrp. if you had root, youll need to reroot. yes, twrp flashes system.img and boot.img files now as well.

simms22 said:
just flash the boot.img and system.img in twrp. if you had root, youll need to reroot. yes, twrp flashes system.img and boot.img files now as well.
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WOW thank you, I didn't know that TWRP did this.

simms22 said:
just flash the boot.img and system.img in twrp. if you had root, youll need to reroot. yes, twrp flashes system.img and boot.img files now as well.
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Ok, I am a little confused, I am trying to apply the MRA58K from LMY48T OTA found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493 in the ZIP file, I am not finding system.img, or boot.img

Download the factory images and extract the system and boot.imgs,put them on your SD card(phone storage) enter twrp,select install,then select images in bottom right, select the partition you want to flash to, select the correct.img file
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holeindalip said:
Download the factory images and extract the system and boot.imgs,put them on your SD card(phone storage) enter twrp,select install,then select images in bottom right, select the partition you want to flash to, select the correct.img file
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Just want to double check, this will be ok to do giong from 5.1.1 to 6.0.1?

idbl_fanatic said:
Just want to double check, this will be ok to do giong from 5.1.1 to 6.0.1?
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yup

simms22 said:
yup
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Ok, so, I got my phone updates, however, I had systemless xposed working on it, MM 6.0.1 (MOB30M) however when I went in to try and enable the modules, it gave an error (a long one) so I thought that maybe I didn't have the correct version installed, or wasn't rooted right, so I went back into recovery, re-rooted, and installed 85.3, now it says that xposed isn't installed at all. So for now, I went back to my 5.1.1 restore. Any ideas?

idbl_fanatic said:
Ok, so, I got my phone updates, however, I had systemless xposed working on it, MM 6.0.1 (MOB30M) however when I went in to try and enable the modules, it gave an error (a long one) so I thought that maybe I didn't have the correct version installed, or wasn't rooted right, so I went back into recovery, re-rooted, and installed 85.3, now it says that xposed isn't installed at all. So for now, I went back to my 5.1.1 restore. Any ideas?
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You have to reflash xposed. It is in the system partition so you will have to redo it after making room as google now fills up the system partition almost completely.

zelendel said:
You have to reflash xposed. It is in the system partition so you will have to redo it after making room as google now fills up the system partition almost completely.
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I thought that was the whole reason behind the System Less Xposed, so it doesn't install to your system partition.

idbl_fanatic said:
I thought that was the whole reason behind the System Less Xposed, so it doesn't install to your system partition.
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was the systemless updated to work with the new security measures built into the update? You have to remember that with each update google is making things like xposed harder to get working. It is well known that sooner or later xposed all together will no longer be an option.
So I would check all the changes that the update did to see what it changed. I nor most the people I know have not used xposed in a long time so I really cant say for sure

zelendel said:
was the systemless updated to work with the new security measures built into the update? You have to remember that with each update google is making things like xposed harder to get working. It is well known that sooner or later xposed all together will no longer be an option.
So I would check all the changes that the update did to see what it changed. I nor most the people I know have not used xposed in a long time so I really cant say for sure
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That makes sense, maybe I'll go to MMB29K instead.

Systemless root or systemless exposed?
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I have systemless xposed working on mob30m. currently have v85.2 installed, all modules working. Only hiccup i ran into was the installer apk. you have to use the one linked in the systemless xposed thread, or it won't recognize the framework is installed.

putridfoetus said:
I have systemless xposed working on mob30m. currently have v85.2 installed, all modules working. Only hiccup i ran into was the installer apk. you have to use the one linked in the systemless xposed thread, or it won't recognize the framework is installed.
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Thank you, I just reinstalled 6.0.1 MOB30M and it works!

I'm on 6.0 right now with TW recovery, root with SuperSU and Xposed v85, I want to go to 6.0.1 latest version, what would be the best was to do it?
Shall I uninstall xposed, unroot and get stock recovery and then just try to install OTA or is there another way?

cL0uD` said:
I'm on 6.0 right now with TW recovery, root with SuperSU and Xposed v85, I want to go to 6.0.1 latest version, what would be the best was to do it?
Shall I uninstall xposed, unroot and get stock recovery and then just try to install OTA or is there another way?
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Check out Flashfire in the appstore, it let's you update with OTA, and re-root

idbl_fanatic said:
Check out Flashfire in the appstore, it let's you update with OTA, and re-root
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Yes, used, Great job, Mr Chainfire

[SOLVED] Can I really switch from SuperSU ?

Hi there fellows ! ^^
First of all, I want you all to know that I really am sorry if this is something that has been asked before. I tried, but couldn't find an answer by myself and I don't want to damage my phone again (I may have been waaaaay too hasty in the past...). So here goes.
I have a Honor 5C NEM-L51 (European variant) which I rooted a while ago (two or three months ago maybe ? Can't remember for sure) by unlocking the bootloader, installing TWRP from ADB, flashing the SuperSU zip file... You know, the usual thing. After that I went ahead and installed Xposed Framework, Busybox and several applications and modules which needed root like many of you I guess. Everything went fine. And still is, for the record.
Now I realize that I may have been living under a rock because I discovered very recently that not only SuperSU can be downloaded from the Play Store but also that there is Magisk, an open-source alternative with more functionnalities. Guess what ? I want it.
Soooo I did some research and read this https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 along with other articles here and there on the web and it seems that I'd just have to install some Magisk Manager app' from the Play Store... Is that really all there is to do ?!
I'm worried because it says "If you're already rooted with MagiskSU or Latest Official Systemless SuperSU". Yep, the "Systemless" part get me worried. While I do understand what it means, I can't help but wonder : since I installed SuperSU from a flashable zip file, is it Systemless ? How can I tell ?
Plus the whole thing is kinda confusing to me. If I do that, will Magisk remove SuperSU ? But if so, won't there be a problem with Xposed and other apps that need root ? Same question applies if I first manually remove SuperSU (assuming I can actually do that) before installing anything else.
In short, how should I proceed ? Do I have to remove anything ? Can I do anything ?
Again, sorry if things had been told already. I really want to take my shot, but I don't wanna soft brick my device again by being too carefree one more time.
Thank you for your time and your help.

When super su is installed magisk will make it automatically systemless. But it can't guarantee that it can always hide it. If super su isn't installed /you are unrooted then magisk will install and use magisk su.
Also since you mentioned them: soft bricks can be resolved by just reflashing your Rom, no need to wipe (lose your data) in most cases
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ken2802 said:
When super su is installed magisk will make it automatically systemless. But it can't guarantee that it can always hide it. If super su isn't installed /you are unrooted then magisk will install and use magisk su.
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Thank you for your answer. Can I uninstall SuperSU to install Magisk su instead then ? Do I need to remove Xposed module and my root apps too ?
ken2802 said:
Also since you mentioned them: soft bricks can be resolved by just reflashing your Rom, no need to wipe (lose your data) in most cases
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Yeah, I do know that, but I really do need my phone at the moment, so I'd kinda be in a world of pain if I brick it.

You can Uninstall super su if you want but it isn't a must if you don't care magisk su. I would remove xposed before installing magisk and after having installed magisk you can install the systemless version. As for your apps that use root, you don't need do deinstall them

ken2802 said:
You can Uninstall super su if you want but it isn't a must if you don't care magisk su. I would remove xposed before installing magisk and after having installed magisk you can install the systemless version. As for your apps that use root, you don't need do deinstall them
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Sorry for the late reply.
I do want to use Magisksu instead of SuperSU. So basically, what I have to do is :
1 - Uninstall Xposed by flashing the uninstaller from TWRP
2 - Uninstall SuperSu (by the app menu ? Is it enough to remove root ?
3 - Install Magisk from the store
4 - Install systemless Xposed from the store
And I'll be all set, correct ? Nothing should go wrong ?

Zarou said:
Sorry for the late reply.
I do want to use Magisksu instead of SuperSU. So basically, what I have to do is :
1 - Uninstall Xposed by flashing the uninstaller from TWRP
2 - Uninstall SuperSu (by the app menu ? Is it enough to remove root ?
3 - Install Magisk from the store
4 - Install systemless Xposed from the store
And I'll be all set, correct ? Nothing should go wrong ?
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I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.

Didgeridoohan said:
I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.
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Thank you for this clarification. Can you also tell me how can I restore the stock boot image only ? Or Do I have no choice but to re-flash the whole ROM in order to do so ?

Zarou said:
Thank you for this clarification. Can you also tell me how can I restore the stock boot image only ? Or Do I have no choice but to re-flash the whole ROM in order to do so ?
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Just flash the boot image from an near stock custom Rom. You can flash it through a recovery menu

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Just flash the boot image from an near stock custom Rom. You can flash it through a recovery menu
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Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?

Zarou said:
Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?
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You can try but if magisk complain while instalation you need to flash a fresh boot image/Rom
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Zarou said:
Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?
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It can be a bit of a bother getting the boot image from inside a Huawei factory image...
SuperSU can restore your boot image when you do the full unroot. That was actually what I was referring to with my 2.5.

Didgeridoohan said:
It can be a bit of a bother getting the boot image from inside a Huawei factory image...
SuperSU can restore your boot image when you do the full unroot. That was actually what I was referring to with my 2.5.
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Thank you, I managed to get by the whole thing with no issue. Problem solved !

Didgeridoohan said:
I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.
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Hi all,
Yesterday I've unlocked my Oneplus 3T bootloader and installed TWRP.
After that I flashed Lineage 14.1, Open Gapps, addonsu-14.1-arm64-signed.zip and finally Magisk. Reboot and install SuperSu.
But I'm wondering if I still need to flash the Lineage addonsu and SuperSu.

tutabeier said:
Hi all,
Yesterday I've unlocked my Oneplus 3T bootloader and installed TWRP.
After that I flashed Lineage 14.1, Open Gapps, addonsu-14.1-arm64-signed.zip and finally Magisk. Reboot and install SuperSu.
But I'm wondering if I still need to flash the Lineage addonsu and SuperSu.
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What are you doing mixing all those root solutions? Pick one... If you want Magisk, you do not need the other two.

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What are you doing mixing all those root solutions? Pick one... If you want Magisk, you do not need the other two.
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Thanks. I probably missed something when reading the threads. I understood Magisk can root my devices, but didn't understood that simply installing it would root my device. So that's why I was flashing su binary and using SuperSU app.
Thanks a lot.

First of all I'm sorry for answering this post so late but I needed to do it.
Well, according to all I've seen about magisk, and obviously with this post, everything I must do to use magisk is:
1. Unlock Bootloader
2. Flash Official Stock ROM
3. Flash Magisk.zip
4. Install Magisk Manager
Is it all? Really? Shouldn't I do anything else, because I'm too worried about it. I've ever used SuperSU until now, and this things of MagiskSU, Magisk Manager and Magisk Hide option are really new for me.
If someone could answer me, including the owner of this post it'd be VERY APPRECIATED and I would thank you all a lot!
Thanks haha

xdaVTU said:
First of all I'm sorry for answering this post so late but I needed to do it.
Well, according to all I've seen about magisk, and obviously with this post, everything I must do to use magisk is:
1. Unlock Bootloader
2. Flash Official Stock ROM
3. Flash Magisk.zip
4. Install Magisk Manager
Is it all? Really? Shouldn't I do anything else, because I'm too worried about it. I've ever used SuperSU until now, and this things of MagiskSU, Magisk Manager and Magisk Hide option are really new for me.
If someone could answer me, including the owner of this post it'd be VERY APPRECIATED and I would thank you all a lot!
Thanks haha
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It's not quite apparent from your post if you have rooted with SuperSU already and now want to use Magisk instead. But, considering that you're posting in a thread that deals with moving from SuperSU I'm gonna go with that... Kind of...
You will need an unlocked bootloader, yes.
If you've rooted with SuperSU you can reflash your ROM, or use something like @osm0sis unSU zip and then flash the stock boot image only. Depends on your setup which option is easier. If you're not already rooted, this step is unnecessary.
Installing Magisk is just as easy as that, yes.
The Manager is also installed when flashing the Magisk zip, so this step is unnecessary. However... In rare cases the Manager doesn't install with the zip. If that happens you just have to install it manually.
The only step I'd like to add is to have a backup of all important data and files on your device. That's always good practice when tinkering with your device...
The release thread and the installation/troubleshooting thread (I'm hoping to have time to update it for Magisk v15.2 tonight) are good resources when setting everything up and if you encounter issues. Searching through the general support thread is also a good idea if issues arise. Most questions have been answered numerous times already.

I'm new to Magisk but have a couple of questions. I have a pixel XL running Dirty UNICORNS rooted with SuperSU. If I want to use Magisk can I just flash my dirty UNICORNS rom, gapps and then the magisk.zip?
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Hi ..I am using Nexus 6 stock rom , super su, and with all kind root apps Xposed modules .
My questions is do I need to uninstall all the root apps first before flashing the UN su zip ?? Pls help sir

jc1266 said:
Hi ..I am using Nexus 6 stock rom , super su, and with all kind root apps Xposed modules .
My questions is do I need to uninstall all the root apps first before flashing the UN su zip ?? Pls help sir
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No. You merely need to uninstall SuperSU, either through the SuperSU app (complete uninstall) or by using the unSU zip. You'll also have to make sure that you restore the stock unpatched boot image.
After that you can flash Magisk and you'll be good to go.