Hey guys! So I read around about rooting Android 6.0.1 and I only see systemless root. I am rooted right now using systemless root and it works fine, but my question is, is there a way to root 6.0.1 with traditional system root? Or is systemless the only way? Just curious really. Will systemless most likely be the future of rooting and the way it's going to have to be done from now on to keep Android Pay working?
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I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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Thanks for the response! And I wonder if it will be what it is for now! It's the only way to keep Android Pay working while the device is rooted correct? Android Pay refuses to work with a traditionally rooted device?
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StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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I did. I still use SU2.52. But only until this weekend. I'm switching to systemless too.
Actually building a permissive kernel is really straightforward, needs one line of code added. The build is about five minuters then with abootimg you can just replace the existing with the newly buil kernel in the boot.img, and flash it.
I can give you details if you're interested.
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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Mine works perfectly.
kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
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Krzysiek_CK said:
Mine works perfectly.
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How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
H4X0R46 said:
The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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I tested 2.61, is problem fixed in 2.62.3? because I must flash 6.0.1 and setup phone again!
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
simms22 said:
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
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Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
Sent from my Nexus 6
H4X0R46 said:
Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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ive no use for pay, so never tried. i assume its broken..
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
carmatana said:
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
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What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
H4X0R46 said:
What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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I would say yes, I'm 90% sure but could be wrong. I would flash the a new update with fastboot.
carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Any mod stops ota's. Root, kernels....You will have to flash full images to get updates. You can skip the userdata part and save your apps and data. But you will have to flash.
Not a big deal, it an extra couple of commands just like the kernel you want to flash.
Thanks!
kamkar said:
How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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Clean 6.0.1 followed by systemless root installation as expained in the Root done right thread.
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Please write your experience with SuperSU 2.60 / 2.61 / 2.62-3...2.66 on Shamu.
2.56 didn't work on my unlocked, unencrypted 6.0.0 (MRA58R)
Systemless 2.62-3 with works as a charm with my 6.0.1.
I dirty flashed 6.0.1 system.img and boot.img, then I flashed SuperSU 2.62-3 (in TWRP). I stayed unencrypted.
Xposed, ES File Explorer, Double tap 2 wake, Greenify, BetterBatteryStats ... work perfectly.
Edit:
2.62-3 works for some with 6.0.1. and with Android Pay
2.52 has been working fine for me since mm has been out, running on MRA58R now. Have not tried 2.6 but 2.49 was also working perfectly. If you need android pay to work then 2.6 or there are other options like custom ROMs that have it successfully working
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Running it here without issue. Also had it running on mra58r.
The only casualty I suppose was/is es file explorer. It could not gain root access for some reason.
I am rooted, unencrypted and have the latest Elite kernel.
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Using 2.6.1 and brand new 6.0.1 fresh install and Android pay is working flawlessly!
Does anybody have a downloadlink for 2.61, can`t find it anywhere
Nevermind, found it.
gee2012 said:
Nevermind, found it.
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Adding the link to the post would have been useful!
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Adding the link to the post would have been useful!
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Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/wip-android-6-0-marshmellow-t3219344. Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3568267&d=1449521348.
belek1979 said:
Please write your experience with SuperSU 2.60/2.61 on Shamu.
2.56 didn't work on my unlocked, unencrypted 6.0.0 (MRA58R)
Maybe 2.60/2.61 will work with 6.0.1?
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Although 2.61 is installed
TWRP says: no root
Root Explorer says: you are not rooted
Quick reboot says: no root
NLBeev said:
Although 2.61 is installed
TWRP says: no root
Root Explorer says: you are not rooted
Quick reboot says: no root
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Root Checker Pro, BusyBox Pro said i was rooted and the Franco FKU app has root too. Maybe its a problem with apps not adapted/compatible with systemless root (2.61) yet.
gee2012 said:
... Maybe its a problem with apps not adapted/compatible with systemless root (2.61) yet.
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I am using the lite Rom 6.0.1 of @Danvdh. Works, but with Franco's kernel (r35) installed, problems with the sim-card. (Not recognized).
Going back to 6.0...... Too many issues.
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I am using the lite Rom 6.0.1 of @Danvdh. Works, but with Franco's kernel (r35) installed, problems with the sim-card. (Not recognized).
Going back to 6.0...... Too many issues.
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Well i`am on stock 6.0.1/TWRP/2.61/Franco r35 and so far no issues, everything working well :fingers-crossed:
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Well i`am on stock 6.0.1/TWRP/2.61/Franco r35 and so far no issues, everything working well :fingers-crossed:
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Now back on 6.0. Will retry with a full wipe.
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Now back on 6.0. Will retry with a full wipe.
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Good luck, from what i understand systemless root works best on stock.
gee2012 said:
Good luck, from what i understand systemless root works best on stock.
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Did a full wipe and flashed again the lite Rom 6.0.1 of Danvdh. This rom is stock based.
After reboot I restored the 6.0-data from a nandroid backup with TWRP. Root checker says 'no root'.
Now last try with full wipe and restore from Google.
At this moment my N6 is restoring the apps from Google take a long time, but root checker says there is root access.
So this update needs a complete wipe and factory reset.
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Did a full wipe and flashed again the lite Rom 6.0.1 of Danvdh. This rom is stock based.
After reboot I restored the 6.0-data from a nandroid backup with TWRP. Root checker says 'no root'.
Now last try with full wipe and restore from Google.
At this moment my N6 is restoring the apps from Google take a long time, but root checker says there is root access.
So this update needs a complete wipe and factory reset.
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Maybe thats it, i didn`t mention i actualy did a full wipe prior to rooting.
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Maybe thats it, i didn`t mention i actualy did a full wipe prior to rooting.
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I did some reading and trial with the lite rom of Danvdh. What seems important is that SuperSU 2.6x is flashed as the last file after flashing system stuff, like mods, kernel.
NLBeev said:
I did some reading and trial with the lite rom of Danvdh. What seems important is that SuperSU 2.6x is flashed as the last file after flashing system stuff, like mods, kernel.
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Yup, that what i did too. Thought you knew that
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Yup, that what i did too. Thought you knew that
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It is logical, but I was too busy with trying to flash without wiping the data partition.
gee2012 said:
...about wiping data...
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I managed to update from M6.0 to M6.0.1 with data kept.
Important is that the system partition does not contain su-stuff of previous versions.
In TWRP I wiped the M 6.0 system and caches, but not the data.
Flashed the lite 6.0.1 rom of Danvdh;
Flashed Franco's kernel r35;
Flashed SuperSU 2.61;
Reboot - TWRP button 'do not install SU'.
Needed to restore settings (dpi), layers and the black themed apps of the TBO team.
I dirty flashed from stock rooted 6.0.0 to 6.0.1 today and rooted using Systemless 2.62-3. Everything is working great so far.
I read on another forum that Titanium Backup does not work if you're using systemless root. Can anyone verify if this is true ?
If TB does work, how would I go about upgrading stock Android 6.01 rooted with TWRP to 6.0.1 with systemless root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
If TB does work, how would I go about upgrading stock Android 6.01 rooted with TWRP to 6.0.1 with systemless root ?
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Make backup's with TWRP.
NLBeev said:
Make backup's with TWRP.
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I know how to make backups with TB. That wasn't my question. My question is, how do I go from 6.0 rooted with SuperSU to 6.0.1 with systemless root (assuming TB works in 6.0.1)
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... how do I go from 6.0 rooted with SuperSU to 6.0.1 with systemless root (assuming TB works in 6.0.1)
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Read post 2153 of @Tylog in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
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Read post 2153 of @Tylog in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3059493
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So is SuperSU 2.61 the ZIP for Chainfire's systemless root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
So is SuperSU 2.61 the ZIP for Chainfire's systemless root ?
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Yes since version 2.6x.
NLBeev said:
Yes since version 2.6x.
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What about Titanium Backup ? Can anyone verify if it works or not with systemless root ? I read a post on Reddit where someone said that they were not able to use it with this root method. Do root apps need to be specifically modified for this type of rooting so it can recognize it ?
Also just to be clear, I am on stock Android 6.0 ROM, rooted and with TWRP recovery.
so the order that I would need following according to the post that you gave me is:
Flash 6.0.1 ROM
flash Update-unSU
flash SuperUser 2.61 or 2.52
Is that correct ? Can I dirty flash 6.0.1 over 6.0 ?
aparanoidandroid said:
What about Titanium Backup ? Can anyone verify if it works or not with systemless root ? I read a post on Reddit where someone said that they were not able to use it with this root method.
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Root apps with hard coded su-stuff needs to be updated for use with systemless root.
What I read....There is a new version 2.62 that solves compatibility issues. But Android Pay will not work.
NLBeev said:
Root apps with hard coded su-stuff needs to be updated for use with systemless root.
What I read....There is a new version 2.62 that solves compatibility issues. But Android Pay will not work.
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Oh really ? From what I read, Android Pay and OTA both do work using systemless root although many people think that Google will find a way to block Android Pay again. Its one of the reasons I wanted to use systemless root in the first place.
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Oh really ? From what I read, Android Pay and OTA both do work using systemless root..
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Not with version 2.62. Info in the SuperSU thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125
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Not with version 2.62. Info in the SuperSU thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125
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OK. Thanks for the info.
Yes, TB works with systemless root.
I was running stock 6.0 w/ root (a few xposed mods) and here's what I did:
Wiped system, flashed Cataclysm, flashed SU 2.61, rebooted, profit.
I also manually updated the radio by using fastboot, for what it's worth. AdAway made me create a simlink with the systemless root, but TB seemed to work just fine.
EDIT: I wiped system before anything as I knew it would get rid of any root files and anything related to Xposed. Phone has been running great, but I haven't re-done Xposed as the only modules I really used were GravityBox and YouTubeAdAway. Catacylsm has almost all the features I used in GB so no need to do both. I might put Xposed on tonight for kicks, but I don't really need it for anything right now.
hayzooos said:
Yes, TB works with systemless root.
I was running stock 6.0 w/ root (a few xposed mods) and here's what I did:
Wiped system, flashed Cataclysm, flashed SU 2.61, rebooted, profit.
I also manually updated the radio by using fastboot, for what it's worth. AdAway made me create a simlink with the systemless root, but TB seemed to work just fine.
EDIT: I wiped system before anything as I knew it would get rid of any root files and anything related to Xposed. Phone has been running great, but I haven't re-done Xposed as the only modules I really used were GravityBox and YouTubeAdAway. Catacylsm has almost all the features I used in GB so no need to do both. I might put Xposed on tonight for kicks, but I don't really need it for anything right now.
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thanks but what happens when you wipe system ? What will I lose other than root ?
aparanoidandroid said:
thanks but what happens when you wipe system ? What will I lose other than root ?
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Anything Xposed related will be gone, but other than that...nothing. All apps, settings, etc of mine were all retained. Wifi networks, bluetooth connections, all those stayed. Wallpaper, Nova Launcher setup/settings, stayed.
Most ROMs have built in their script to wipe the system partition before flashing anyway, so you're likely already doing it if you're flashing ROMs. I just wanted to start with a pretty clean slate and check to see if anything in data was causing issues, and nothing so far.
Titanium Backup 7.4.0.2 and System Root was working about 2 weeks ago FLAWLESSLY
My last Titanium Backup was on July 7, 2016 with Systemless root, with XPosed, Gavitybox for MM and Stock 6.0 ROM Build MPHS24.49-18-3. I have been using Titanium Backup since I got my MOTO X Pure (2015) in May of 2016, and everything is working great, except I just noticed that Titanium Backup v 7.4.0.2 states
"Error
Sorry,
I could not acquire root privileges.
This application will *not* work! Please
verify that your ROM is rooted, and try
again.
This attempt was made using the "/system/
bin/su"command."
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My last Titanium Backup was on July 7, 2016 with Systemless root, with XPosed, Gavitybox for MM and Stock 6.0 ROM Build MPHS24.49-18-3. I have been using Titanium Backup since I got my MOTO X Pure (2015) in May of 2016, and everything is working great, except I just noticed that Titanium Backup v 7.4.0.2 states
"Error
Sorry,
I could not acquire root privileges.
This application will *not* work! Please
verify that your ROM is rooted, and try
again.
This attempt was made using the "/system/
bin/su"command."
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Do you have Busybox installed? If not, that may be why. Had the same issue, installed Busybox to /su/xbin, and all is good now.
Gravity Box works with XPosed Framework, which ONLY works with "BusyBox on Rails", which I do have installed. Not sure if I can tell it where to install BusyBox, but it seems to be working now.
Does anyone have a clue to get magisk and titanium backup to work with each other... TB does not seem to ask for Root, seems to simply bypass it...
-----Nevermind, just make sure you have unticked Magisk Hide- in Settings. WORKS!
So after getting my replacement N910T, I rooted it using the method here, and it seemed to go well, but during the process of reinstalling apps, I noticed some erratic behavior like the device not allowing root access when root checker says it is rooted. Or SuperSu not asking for SU access on apps that normally do, thereby denying root access, like Root Explorer. When I go back and check root checker again, sometimes it shows that it has access and other times it says that it doesn't. For a device with a supposedly unlocked bootloader, I've never encountered so many issues. My AT&T S4 which has a locked BL never gave me any issues once it was rooted. With all the devices I've rooted over the years, I've never had this much trouble. So I'm wondering if it's corrupted somehow? Or is there something about this systemless root that is the issue?
Here are the basics:
Android 5.1.1
Baseband OK2
Kernel Version 3.10.40-6209177
Build Number LMY47X.N910TUVU2DOK2
I've read threads until I'm crosseyed and googled but couldn't really come up with anything, so I could use some help here.
I had the same problem with a Note 4 Tmo I am working with. What SuperSU version are you using?
I had root issue problems (root chk says rooted, issues in ES File Expl, etc) when I used anything higher than 2.65.
Try flashing SuperSU 2.65 stable through recovery (I use TWRP 2.8.?.?) and when exiting out of recovery DO NOT allow SuperSU to be installed as SuperSU installation says...
Thanks much for the response. I'm using SuperSu 2.71; I didn't choose this version, it came with the root I got from here. So where do I find this version you're referring to?
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Hi have you figured out your issue yet. If not, Try using supersu 2.52. It's the last full system root I believe. I have had much better luck with full system than systemless.
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Hi have you figured out your issue yet. If not, Try using supersu 2.52. It's the last full system root I believe. I have had much better luck with full system than systemless.
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I haven't tried anything else yet, I giving my head some time to clear. I've been at this for hours now, so I need a rest. Can I find that version of SuperSu as a flash able zip?
I used the links from Chainfire's thread on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Download to stable 2.65 is in that thread points to this link:
https://download.chainfire.eu/921/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.65-20151226141550.zip
https://download.chainfire.eu/743/supersu this is link to 2.52 zip if u need it
Thanks for all the help, I'm glad this happened to someone other than me. One thing though: I'm on OK2, I thought you couldn't have system root with that.
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Okay, the installation of supersu 2.52 via TWRP has definitely made a difference! The device is noticeably stabler now. One last thing, though: root checker shows it's rooted, but says that a superuser app isn't installed, which is what I thought supersu was. So now what?
Did you flash over 2.71. And do you have a su app icon on your scrren.
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Did you flash over 2.71. And do you have a su app icon on your scrren.
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Yes, I just flashed it from TWRP without doing anything else. And no, there isn't a Su app icon on the screen. I have a nandroid backup that'll put it back to the way it was before I did that, just in case it crashed and burned.
Download the app from playstore and then go to settings and do a full unroot. Then reboot to recovery and flash 2.52 then wipe cache and dalviche and reboot
MUCH BETTER!!! I'm in the process of reinstalling all of my apps; I don't want to take a chance of restoring my backup from Titanium, just in case there's something that won't play right.
I'll report back in a day or so.
Thanks to everyone who provided answers, it is most appreciated!
Welcome bud.
Thank you for the information guys. I was having the same issue as OP. Reverted SU as described and everything is much smoother
Yes, it's been a few days and my device is working the way it is supposed to. Interestingly enough, my SuperSU has automatically updated to version 2.65 but it's still working fine.
I've since turned off automatic updates in Google Play for fear of getting a version that begins the cycle all over again.
I still have the issue with the device telling me that the recovery is not seandroid enforcing even though I've updated to TWRP 3.0, and the set warranty bit: kernel issue. In spite of these, my device seems to work just fine with no issues.
Thanks again to everyone who offered help. It's nice when people offer help instead of posting just to tell you to find the answer yourself.
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Your welcome. And I get kernel is not seandroid enforcing on every reboot. Thought it was normal ha
My research on this has taken me all over the place, but none of the suggestions or explanations seem to apply. The device isn't ostensibly crippled, so I don't know.
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I think it's normal...maybe...ha Im pretty sure it's the warranty bit
are there root for N910A 5.1.1
Hi there fellows ! ^^
First of all, I want you all to know that I really am sorry if this is something that has been asked before. I tried, but couldn't find an answer by myself and I don't want to damage my phone again (I may have been waaaaay too hasty in the past...). So here goes.
I have a Honor 5C NEM-L51 (European variant) which I rooted a while ago (two or three months ago maybe ? Can't remember for sure) by unlocking the bootloader, installing TWRP from ADB, flashing the SuperSU zip file... You know, the usual thing. After that I went ahead and installed Xposed Framework, Busybox and several applications and modules which needed root like many of you I guess. Everything went fine. And still is, for the record.
Now I realize that I may have been living under a rock because I discovered very recently that not only SuperSU can be downloaded from the Play Store but also that there is Magisk, an open-source alternative with more functionnalities. Guess what ? I want it.
Soooo I did some research and read this https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 along with other articles here and there on the web and it seems that I'd just have to install some Magisk Manager app' from the Play Store... Is that really all there is to do ?!
I'm worried because it says "If you're already rooted with MagiskSU or Latest Official Systemless SuperSU". Yep, the "Systemless" part get me worried. While I do understand what it means, I can't help but wonder : since I installed SuperSU from a flashable zip file, is it Systemless ? How can I tell ?
Plus the whole thing is kinda confusing to me. If I do that, will Magisk remove SuperSU ? But if so, won't there be a problem with Xposed and other apps that need root ? Same question applies if I first manually remove SuperSU (assuming I can actually do that) before installing anything else.
In short, how should I proceed ? Do I have to remove anything ? Can I do anything ?
Again, sorry if things had been told already. I really want to take my shot, but I don't wanna soft brick my device again by being too carefree one more time.
Thank you for your time and your help.
When super su is installed magisk will make it automatically systemless. But it can't guarantee that it can always hide it. If super su isn't installed /you are unrooted then magisk will install and use magisk su.
Also since you mentioned them: soft bricks can be resolved by just reflashing your Rom, no need to wipe (lose your data) in most cases
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ken2802 said:
When super su is installed magisk will make it automatically systemless. But it can't guarantee that it can always hide it. If super su isn't installed /you are unrooted then magisk will install and use magisk su.
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Thank you for your answer. Can I uninstall SuperSU to install Magisk su instead then ? Do I need to remove Xposed module and my root apps too ?
ken2802 said:
Also since you mentioned them: soft bricks can be resolved by just reflashing your Rom, no need to wipe (lose your data) in most cases
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Yeah, I do know that, but I really do need my phone at the moment, so I'd kinda be in a world of pain if I brick it.
You can Uninstall super su if you want but it isn't a must if you don't care magisk su. I would remove xposed before installing magisk and after having installed magisk you can install the systemless version. As for your apps that use root, you don't need do deinstall them
ken2802 said:
You can Uninstall super su if you want but it isn't a must if you don't care magisk su. I would remove xposed before installing magisk and after having installed magisk you can install the systemless version. As for your apps that use root, you don't need do deinstall them
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Sorry for the late reply.
I do want to use Magisksu instead of SuperSU. So basically, what I have to do is :
1 - Uninstall Xposed by flashing the uninstaller from TWRP
2 - Uninstall SuperSu (by the app menu ? Is it enough to remove root ?
3 - Install Magisk from the store
4 - Install systemless Xposed from the store
And I'll be all set, correct ? Nothing should go wrong ?
Zarou said:
Sorry for the late reply.
I do want to use Magisksu instead of SuperSU. So basically, what I have to do is :
1 - Uninstall Xposed by flashing the uninstaller from TWRP
2 - Uninstall SuperSu (by the app menu ? Is it enough to remove root ?
3 - Install Magisk from the store
4 - Install systemless Xposed from the store
And I'll be all set, correct ? Nothing should go wrong ?
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I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.
Didgeridoohan said:
I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.
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Thank you for this clarification. Can you also tell me how can I restore the stock boot image only ? Or Do I have no choice but to re-flash the whole ROM in order to do so ?
Zarou said:
Thank you for this clarification. Can you also tell me how can I restore the stock boot image only ? Or Do I have no choice but to re-flash the whole ROM in order to do so ?
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Just flash the boot image from an near stock custom Rom. You can flash it through a recovery menu
ken2802 said:
Just flash the boot image from an near stock custom Rom. You can flash it through a recovery menu
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Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?
Zarou said:
Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?
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You can try but if magisk complain while instalation you need to flash a fresh boot image/Rom
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Zarou said:
Well, all I can find with Huawei Firmware Finder seems to be full or OTA ROM updates. I can't download the boot image only.
However, within the SuperSU app settings, there are two options : one to change superuser app and a second one to completely remove root. By any chance, does one of these options clear the boot image by itself ?
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It can be a bit of a bother getting the boot image from inside a Huawei factory image...
SuperSU can restore your boot image when you do the full unroot. That was actually what I was referring to with my 2.5.
Didgeridoohan said:
It can be a bit of a bother getting the boot image from inside a Huawei factory image...
SuperSU can restore your boot image when you do the full unroot. That was actually what I was referring to with my 2.5.
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Thank you, I managed to get by the whole thing with no issue. Problem solved !
Didgeridoohan said:
I'll add a couple of points to your list:
2.5 - Make sure to restore the stock boot image.
3.5 - Flash magisk.zip in recovery. You can't install through the Manager if not rooted.
If you want to use Magisk Hide to pass SafetyNet you'll have to disable Xposed. Magisk can't hide it, even if it's systemless.
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Hi all,
Yesterday I've unlocked my Oneplus 3T bootloader and installed TWRP.
After that I flashed Lineage 14.1, Open Gapps, addonsu-14.1-arm64-signed.zip and finally Magisk. Reboot and install SuperSu.
But I'm wondering if I still need to flash the Lineage addonsu and SuperSu.
tutabeier said:
Hi all,
Yesterday I've unlocked my Oneplus 3T bootloader and installed TWRP.
After that I flashed Lineage 14.1, Open Gapps, addonsu-14.1-arm64-signed.zip and finally Magisk. Reboot and install SuperSu.
But I'm wondering if I still need to flash the Lineage addonsu and SuperSu.
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What are you doing mixing all those root solutions? Pick one... If you want Magisk, you do not need the other two.
Didgeridoohan said:
What are you doing mixing all those root solutions? Pick one... If you want Magisk, you do not need the other two.
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Thanks. I probably missed something when reading the threads. I understood Magisk can root my devices, but didn't understood that simply installing it would root my device. So that's why I was flashing su binary and using SuperSU app.
Thanks a lot.
First of all I'm sorry for answering this post so late but I needed to do it.
Well, according to all I've seen about magisk, and obviously with this post, everything I must do to use magisk is:
1. Unlock Bootloader
2. Flash Official Stock ROM
3. Flash Magisk.zip
4. Install Magisk Manager
Is it all? Really? Shouldn't I do anything else, because I'm too worried about it. I've ever used SuperSU until now, and this things of MagiskSU, Magisk Manager and Magisk Hide option are really new for me.
If someone could answer me, including the owner of this post it'd be VERY APPRECIATED and I would thank you all a lot!
Thanks haha
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First of all I'm sorry for answering this post so late but I needed to do it.
Well, according to all I've seen about magisk, and obviously with this post, everything I must do to use magisk is:
1. Unlock Bootloader
2. Flash Official Stock ROM
3. Flash Magisk.zip
4. Install Magisk Manager
Is it all? Really? Shouldn't I do anything else, because I'm too worried about it. I've ever used SuperSU until now, and this things of MagiskSU, Magisk Manager and Magisk Hide option are really new for me.
If someone could answer me, including the owner of this post it'd be VERY APPRECIATED and I would thank you all a lot!
Thanks haha
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It's not quite apparent from your post if you have rooted with SuperSU already and now want to use Magisk instead. But, considering that you're posting in a thread that deals with moving from SuperSU I'm gonna go with that... Kind of...
You will need an unlocked bootloader, yes.
If you've rooted with SuperSU you can reflash your ROM, or use something like @osm0sis unSU zip and then flash the stock boot image only. Depends on your setup which option is easier. If you're not already rooted, this step is unnecessary.
Installing Magisk is just as easy as that, yes.
The Manager is also installed when flashing the Magisk zip, so this step is unnecessary. However... In rare cases the Manager doesn't install with the zip. If that happens you just have to install it manually.
The only step I'd like to add is to have a backup of all important data and files on your device. That's always good practice when tinkering with your device...
The release thread and the installation/troubleshooting thread (I'm hoping to have time to update it for Magisk v15.2 tonight) are good resources when setting everything up and if you encounter issues. Searching through the general support thread is also a good idea if issues arise. Most questions have been answered numerous times already.
I'm new to Magisk but have a couple of questions. I have a pixel XL running Dirty UNICORNS rooted with SuperSU. If I want to use Magisk can I just flash my dirty UNICORNS rom, gapps and then the magisk.zip?
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Hi ..I am using Nexus 6 stock rom , super su, and with all kind root apps Xposed modules .
My questions is do I need to uninstall all the root apps first before flashing the UN su zip ?? Pls help sir
jc1266 said:
Hi ..I am using Nexus 6 stock rom , super su, and with all kind root apps Xposed modules .
My questions is do I need to uninstall all the root apps first before flashing the UN su zip ?? Pls help sir
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No. You merely need to uninstall SuperSU, either through the SuperSU app (complete uninstall) or by using the unSU zip. You'll also have to make sure that you restore the stock unpatched boot image.
After that you can flash Magisk and you'll be good to go.
I used CF Auto Root a while back to root my Nexus 6 (months ago). It did the trick getting the bootloader unlocked and rooting the phone. I then proceeded to install TWRP and then installed Pure Nexus. From then to know the phone has been a joy to use. This ROM is fantastic.
Recently I decided to look into custom Kernels, Elementalx is the one I have been reading up on. I installed the kernel, and then purchase the EX Kernel Manager. Using the app I realized that the phone wasn't rooted, or so it told me. I test this with the Root Checker Basic App and it confirmed that the phone was not rooted.
I am not sure what happened but what I wanted to do was run the SuperSU zip via TWRP again, but wanted to ask you guys if this would be an issue. I can't see why it would but it Rooth had already been achived and then it was gone so..... I just wanted to ask in case.
Sorry that this was a little long winded. Thanks in advance.
Magisk and SuperSU achieve root without modifying the system partition through patching of the kernel's ramdisk (?). When you installed the new kernel it installed an unpatched copy. This is why you lost root.
Download SuperSU from the XDA thread and flash it in TWRP to restore root.
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Magisk and SuperSU achieve root without modifying the system partition through patching of the kernel's ramdisk (?). When you installed the new kernel it installed an unpatched copy. This is why you lost root.
Download SuperSU from the XDA thread and flash it in TWRP to restore root.
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Thanks for the quick reply. That makes sense. I will run SuperSU again. Take care.