So, if TMO is going with 1700mhz for their 3G (whenever the hell that might be), my Kaiser isn't going to be compatible, right? Bummer. Hope I'm wrong.
will not be compatible
thats the very reason I left Tmobile...i no longer conider then a real carrier.
Any idea if my Kaiser would work on Verizon or another carrier?
I can understand t-mo's reasons for deploying 3g services on 1700mhz, better coverage within mast area and penetration in buildings.
UK is going through similar turmoil, Ofcom is looking into 900Mhz and 1800Mhz 2G networks being upgraded to 3G services if they dont take the 900Mhz range off Voda and o2.
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Any idea if my Kaiser would work on Verizon or another carrier?
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Not verizon, but any gsm service provider. ie:AT+T.
Read the 3g part of the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1930269#post1930269
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366634&page=14
I don't know where all these people are getting their proof on T-Mo rolling out 1700. Proof anyone? or just something you heard and thought you might repeat.
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Read the 3g part of the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1930269#post1930269
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366634&page=14
I don't know where all these people are getting their proof on T-Mo rolling out 1700. Proof anyone? or just something you heard and thought you might repeat.
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/06/t-mobile-details-3g-plans/
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/06/t-mobile-details-3g-plans/
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http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9825328-1.html
This says 2100 which kaiser also supports. There are no hard facts these stories are like celebrity gossip that nobody cares about.
moddin said:
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9825328-1.html
This says 2100 which kaiser also supports. There are no hard facts these stories are like celebrity gossip that nobody cares about.
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Yeah, nobody really cares because it's all good and fun until your phone doesn't work one day by surprise when you take it out of your pocket because they changed the bands on you. I don't worry about things like this either.
Yes i have a question concerning about the 3G network for AT&T. I have read alot of sticky's, threads new and old and can't seem to get a definite answer to what i am looking for. I really didnt want to post this, but i have searched everything by going into the search tab at the top. So i was wondering does the version Diam100 from EU/Asia have the hardware to support 3G for AT&T. I know it says it in the tabs on the phone that it can recieve the 3G band, but i have read its the hardware that can't but they werent sure. I've also read that some people say it needs a newer radio and/or ROM to get 3G. I really dont want to flash a new radio onto my phone if i dont need it. Can someone so kind as to tell me if it is or it is not capable so i can decide to keep the phone or not.
Thank you ever so much,
Xero
EU/Asia diamond won't work in US, i even tired swapping a US radio into a Euro Diamond and still didn't work. Only US diamond with US radio will give you 3G.
Hope it helps.
Kinda figured. But how bout this. Can anybody answer this its most likely a no but im just curious. Can you add/change the hardware from inside to receive 3G? And if so how? I know the answer is a no but someone might of done it or figured it out without messing up the phone.
us vs north america
averma said:
EU/Asia diamond won't work in US, i even tired swapping a US radio into a Euro Diamond and still didn't work. Only US diamond with US radio will give you 3G.
Hope it helps.
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is the us considered its own seperate band or does it share the same bands as canada and mexico? i ask b/c i bought my diamond from a canadian and i truly hope its 3g works here inthe states. i am with t-mobile and they dont have 3g in my area yet.
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is the us considered its own seperate band or does it share the same bands as canada and mexico? i ask b/c i bought my diamond from a canadian and i truly hope its 3g works here inthe states. i am with t-mobile and they dont have 3g in my area yet.
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What version do you have of the phone and what ROM and Radio? If its from Asia/EU then thats a no.
Xero Omega said:
What version do you have of the phone and what ROM and Radio? If its from Asia/EU then thats a no.
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p3700 about to try udk's R3 i think its the latest htc stock radio 1.11.25.01
currently XBoxmods
I have a Rogers G1 that I use with AT&T's service. When I first received the phone (yesterday), AT&T's 3G service was working fine and it even had an option to enable|disable the 3G signal in the settings. However, after I decided to flash the SPL, radio, etc. (after everything, I've decided to stick with Cyanogen 4.2.14.1), my 3G signal no longer works, as I only have EDGE coverage AND there is no setting in the phone that even mentions HSDPA or 3G enabling. I know it's not the ROM that did this, since I was using the Expresso, MLIGN's 3.3 and another ROM. So basically.. How do I get my 3G signal back??? Thanks in advance!
My current G1 info:
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-3.22.26.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
wrong section dude
G1 Android Development
Good luck getting your 3g back though!
Try here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=507
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I have a Rogers G1 that I use with AT&T's service. When I first received the phone (yesterday), AT&T's 3G service was working fine and it even had an option to enable|disable the 3G signal in the settings. However, after I decided to flash the SPL, radio, etc. (after everything, I've decided to stick with Cyanogen 4.2.14.1), my 3G signal no longer works, as I only have EDGE coverage AND there is no setting in the phone that even mentions HSDPA or 3G enabling. I know it's not the ROM that did this, since I was using the Expresso, MLIGN's 3.3 and another ROM. So basically.. How do I get my 3G signal back??? Thanks in advance!
My current G1 info:
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-3.22.26.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
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isnt that the rogers radio ?
btw wrong section there is a questions and answers section for help. just so you know. Welcome to xda btw..
now on with other member flames.
Not sure how to help you. Wrong forum by the way. I used my Rogers Dream for AT&T 3G but I have noticed several things about it.
1. The build quality seems much lower than my ADP1. I put my ADP1 that I got in Dec. '08 thru hell and it is battered but not a single thing is wrong with it function wise. My Rogers Dream I had for 4 months and it already bit the dust. I took care of it like a baby, yet the bluetooth has failed, as has the microsd slot. I took it apart and swapped the sd board into my ADP1 and it worked fine, yet it fails in my Rogers one still yet. Damn you Rogers.
2. It always seems to show a low signal strength (~-100 dBm where my ADP1 gets ~-80 on EDGE and my Samsung flip-phone gets ~-75 on 3G all in one area)
I would recommend you try a reflash.
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Not sure how to help you. Wrong forum by the way. I used my Rogers Dream for AT&T 3G but I have noticed several things about it.
1. The build quality seems much lower than my ADP1. I put my ADP1 that I got in Dec. '08 thru hell and it is battered but not a single thing is wrong with it function wise. My Rogers Dream I had for 4 months and it already bit the dust. I took care of it like a baby, yet the bluetooth has failed, as has the microsd slot. I took it apart and swapped the sd board into my ADP1 and it worked fine, yet it fails in my Rogers one still yet. Damn you Rogers.
2. It always seems to show a low signal strength (~-100 dBm where my ADP1 gets ~-80 on EDGE and my Samsung flip-phone gets ~-75 on 3G all in one area)
I would recommend you try a reflash.
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Yes, everyone keeps telling me the wrong forum. When I posted another question on another forum, NO ONE answered at all. Here, I get answers in 3 mins. However, I didn't mean to post it here (I will re-post this thread in the proper section). Thanks for your info! Except, I don't understand what you mean by re-flash.
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Yes, everyone keeps telling me the wrong forum. When I posted another question on another forum, NO ONE answered at all. Here, I get answers in 3 mins. However, I didn't mean to post it here (I will re-post this thread in the proper section). Thanks for your info! Except, I don't understand what you mean by re-flash.
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I feel your pain on that one. It happens but you'll get an answer, hopefully.
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Yes, everyone keeps telling me the wrong forum. When I posted another question on another forum, NO ONE answered at all. Here, I get answers in 3 mins. However, I didn't mean to post it here (I will re-post this thread in the proper section). Thanks for your info! Except, I don't understand what you mean by re-flash.
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I wasn't trying to be hateful or snarky. I was just stating that it was, unlike some people who just post "wrong forum jackass" & crap like that I actually tried to contribute something
And by reflash, I mean to try to reinstall another ROM. It could just be a temporary problem that reinstalling Cyanogen's ROM or any other ROM may fix.
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I wasn't trying to be hateful or snarky. I was just stating that it was, unlike some people who just post "wrong forum jackass" & crap like that I actually tried to contribute something
And by reflash, I mean to try to reinstall another ROM. It could just be a temporary problem that reinstalling Cyanogen's ROM or any other ROM may fix.
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Oh.. I know you weren't being "hateful or snarky". I was just saying what everyone else has told me. I hope I didn't come off as "hateful or snarky" either.
If that's what re-flashing is then I've done that plenty of times. Most of the time, I would wipe everything (except the last two settings - Battery & Rotation). I've flashed MLIGN's v3.3, Espresso ROM, some other random v2.3 ROM by the same creator as the Espresso and now, CM's latest (which is what I'm at now - Most stable and it's the most smoothest ROM I've used so far).
its a network issue i doubt anyone here could help at all
Heres your problem..
A g1 WILL NEVER fuction on ATT 3g. They use different bands that the G1 does not use. No matter what you think you may have had, you NEVER had att 3g coverage with a G1. It is an ATT problem, not a rom, radio or whatever problem. Once you unlock a G1 for ATT you say by by to 3g.
Dont belive me, use google and do a tiny ity bity search.
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Heres your problem..
A g1 WILL NEVER fuction on ATT 3g. They use different bands that the G1 does not use. No matter what you think you may have had, you NEVER had att 3g coverage with a G1. It is an ATT problem, not a rom, radio or whatever problem. Once you unlock a G1 for ATT you say by by to 3g.
Dont belive me, use google and do a tiny ity bity search.
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He has a Rogers one, so he is able to get AT&T 4G.
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He has a Rogers one, so he is able to get AT&T 4G.
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Ahhh.. See I didnt know there was a difference. I guess its just us US'ers that get screwed on that.
But ATT 3g is garbage anyway lol
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Ahhh.. See I didnt know there was a difference. I guess its just us US'ers that get screwed on that.
But ATT 3g is garbage anyway lol
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Actually it's not that bad lol. I live in the boonies about 60 mi. south of St. Louis & I have excellent 3G. I average about 120KB/s and on a good day I can cruise at 210KB/s. Not excellent, but when at my house my only other option is Hughesnet or Dial-up it's pretty dang good. Vzw has no service here & T-Mo barely has EDGE. Sprint is the only other 3G network here and I get about 60KB/s average on my EvDo card.
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Ahhh.. See I didnt know there was a difference. I guess its just us US'ers that get screwed on that.
But ATT 3g is garbage anyway lol
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I REALLY hate when people try and give me info that they know NOTHING about. How are YOU going to tell ME if I had AT&T 3G or not? Don't you think I'd realize that!? Why else would I import a Rogers G1!? AT&T's 3G has a much wider spectrum than T-Mobile's, by the way.
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I REALLY hate when people try and give me info that they know NOTHING about. How are YOU going to tell ME if I had AT&T 3G or not? Don't you think I'd realize that!? Why else would I import a Rogers G1!? AT&T's 3G has a much wider spectrum than T-Mobile's, by the way.
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oh how I am so tired of you rude little twerps. I made a mistake and I am sorry which I already siad. I was under the impresstion that ATT 3g DID NOT work on G1's I had no idea of the difference in builds.
Dont go giving me a high and mighty BS attitude because I made a mistake. Funny how Im the one who doesnt know what hes talking about, and your the one asking for help.
And as for Tmobiles coverage.. I live in florida.. I stay in florida.. I dont travel. My 3g and sometimes H depedning on what part of town im in averages 800kbps and has gone up to 7mb many times.
So again, Im sorry for making a mistake and apologizing fo rit and Im sorry you prefer ATT.
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I REALLY hate when people try and give me info that they know NOTHING about. How are YOU going to tell ME if I had AT&T 3G or not? Don't you think I'd realize that!? Why else would I import a Rogers G1!? AT&T's 3G has a much wider spectrum than T-Mobile's, by the way.
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This should be order for US: Fastest - Slowest
-Verizon
-Sprint
-Tmobile
-A&TT
The top mobile carriers so I excluded any other ones.
I always got slow 3G on my old att phone but tmobile's is faster with great coverage for me and unfortunately bad for you.Not sure what desert wasteland your at that you cant get 3G(jk)...If you dial *#*#4636#*#* then select WCDMA only it should give you only 3G. Not sure if the feature is compat with Att too.
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oh how I am so tired of you rude little twerps. I made a mistake and I am sorry which I already siad. I was under the impresstion that ATT 3g DID NOT work on G1's I had no idea of the difference in builds.
Dont go giving me a high and mighty BS attitude because I made a mistake.
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Granted you admitted inaccuracy with your assumption (and at no point apologized, for those keeping track), but with the tone you took in your initial post regarding his issue, I think he has the right to lash out a little.
You can tell him to do itty bitty searches all you want but your input's no good if you don't read first.
Sigh. Back to lurking I go.
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Heres your problem..
A g1 WILL NEVER fuction on ATT 3g. They use different bands that the G1 does not use. No matter what you think you may have had, you NEVER had att 3g coverage with a G1. It is an ATT problem, not a rom, radio or whatever problem. Once you unlock a G1 for ATT you say by by to 3g.
Dont belive me, use google and do a tiny ity bity search.
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everyone knows this, I also have a UNLOCKED MyTouch, actually i've had a few unlocked T-mobile phones over the years. All you get EDGE never 3G i dont think it possible to ever get 3G, unless u know how to tweak the freq. and the radio crystal or whatever, and nobody can do that
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everyone knows this, I also have a UNLOCKED MyTouch, actually i've had a few unlocked T-mobile phones over the years. All you get EDGE never 3G i dont think it possible to ever get 3G, unless u know how to tweak the freq. and the radio crystal or whatever, and nobody can do that
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Did you read ANYTHING on the second page???? How many times have we explained, he has a ROGERS DREAM. I have one too, THEY GET AT&T 3G, I PROMISE YOU! It's people like this that piss me off.
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Did you read ANYTHING on the second page???? How many times have we explained, he has a ROGERS DREAM. I have one too, THEY GET AT&T 3G, I PROMISE YOU! It's people like this that piss me off.
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yeah, I import at&t phones for use on rogers network, because they share freq's, rogers = at&t
I want an HD7 and wondered if any XDA-member could purchase one from o2 and i would pay them through PayPal and they could ship me the phone. I am in the US and on AT&T
Why don't you just go down to Walmart? They have them there already. Besides you'r on ATT and will get no 3g I thought with one from O2? I believe you need one from Telstra (Australian) network and your 3g will work.
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Why don't you just go down to Walmart? They have them there already. Besides you'r on ATT and will get no 3g I thought with one from O2? I believe you need one from Telstra (Australian) network and your 3g will work.
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Okay, so anyone from Australia want to buy me an HD7 and I will send the money.
i think folks are too busy trying to make money lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-H...0493202894?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43a2be81ce
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i think folks are too busy trying to make money lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-H...0493202894?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43a2be81ce
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Im talking about someone buying it and not trying to rape me for the phone. I went to Telestras website and they dont sell the hd7
good luck bro, i hope it works out for you . if you wanted one for t-mobile, i could get it tommorow.
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good luck bro, i hope it works out for you . if you wanted one for t-mobile, i could get it tommorow.
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I see the rebel sim cards are being developed for wp7 so perhaps 3g is still in the game if i get a tmobile version. I s being on edge versus 3g really that big of a difference anyway?
oh yeah, it's like swimming in tar lol (edge).
Isn't the phone Quad Band? Surely the device will work on all of the GSM networks?
I hope it's that or it's going to be quite a mission finding the right device to work on the right networks int the right countries.
in the u.s., the only 2 big gsm carriers (at$t, t-mo) operate on different bands. the rest of the world is ok lol, the telstra(sp) operates on at$t w/ 3g, any one else on t-mo gets edge.
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in the u.s., the only 2 big gsm carriers (at$t, t-mo) operate on different bands. the rest of the world is ok lol, the telstra(sp) operates on at$t w/ 3g, any one else on t-mo gets edge.
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Ah, ok
So would the T-Mobile HD7 work on standard GSM bands (900MHz and 1800MHz for South Africa)?
Our staff lounge is in the basement and it's where I spend my lunch hour. Only people who get any signal at all are people on tmobiles network. Is there a way for me to either manually roam on tmo networks or jump on their bands?
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Our staff lounge is in the basement and it's where I spend my lunch hour. Only people who get any signal at all are people on tmobiles network. Is there a way for me to either manually roam on tmo networks or jump on their bands?
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not yet and I don't think anyone is working on unlocking the aws bands:crying:
I been waiting for months for good news on this but no dice:crying:
Maybe if you flashed a new modem it'd work?? Go here----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698464
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Maybe if you flashed a new modem it'd work?? Go here----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698464
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already on NC2 modem. which modem u think I should use?
^That my friend, is entirely left up to you to find out. Not being stingy, I just don't know which one will work for you. As an OTR truck driver, I find different modems will give you internet signal where others won't.