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ok i'm very confused with the 3g bands stuff...so i would like to know if i can use the great britain g1 in us with 3g? and also do i need to unlock the phone? even tho its the same network like us a england tmobile in us with tmobile thanx

somebody???

Refer to this site for great information:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/ARCHI...utside-of-the-USA-1700-Mhz-2100-Mhz/m-p/37301

ajgoldie15 said:
Refer to this site for great information:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/ARCHI...utside-of-the-USA-1700-Mhz-2100-Mhz/m-p/37301
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I wouldn't base anything on what you see in that thread.... some of what is written there is quite simply WRONG.
Specifically, the theory that it may be 3G in one way and 2G in the other way? LOL! Impossible! If the thing says 3G, its 3G in BOTH DIRECTIONS.
I can't say if there's a difference or not between the europe and north american versions... I *doubt* that there is, but don't hold me to that.

Sprint + Tmobile merger? What do you think of it?

http://gizmodo.com/5585983/sprint-ceo-sees-logic-in-a-t+mobile-merger
Seems like a great idea to me. I have / love Sprint presently, have had Tmobile in the past and they are my second favorite carrier.

I read that TMobile may go down next year

M_T_M said:
I read that TMobile may go down next year
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I've always thought Verizon would swallow Sprint, but I think they wouldn't allow it because Verizon would become a freakin giant.
While I love Tmobile + Sprint, I wonder if it would be the straw that breaks the Camel's back at Sprint. We all know how the Sprint + Nextel thing went... And I doubt Deutsche Telekom would really want to divest... But it does seem that Sprint and Tmobile are in a bad position. I dunno, should be interesting.

berardi said:
I've always thought Verizon would swallow Sprint, but I think they wouldn't allow it because Verizon would become a freakin giant.
While I love Tmobile + Sprint, I wonder if it would be the straw that breaks the Camel's back at Sprint. We all know how the Sprint + Nextel thing went... And I doubt Deutsche Telekom would really want to divest... But it does seem that Sprint and Tmobile are in a bad position. I dunno, should be interesting.
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Why do you think sprint is in a bad position? Never mind tmobile.
JBlaze -- Evo 4G

jsantos248 said:
Why do you think sprint is in a bad position? Never mind tmobile.
JBlaze -- Evo 4G
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If you check the headlines they have been bleeding badly. T-mobile I haven't heard much about though.
sent from my telepathic neurotransmitter.

Would that be possible considering -Mobile is GSM and Sprint CDMA?

Nextel used IDEN, neither GSM OR CDMA. So my answer would be, it wouldn't matter.

(I'm from the UK, so not much real input.. but...)
Much the same as what is happening/happened with the OrangeUK and T-Mobile UK Merger here to make one big parent company, although they are operating still as 2 brands of the parent. Should be fine.

it work on tzone for $5.99.(confirmed)

just got home from work tonight and I try put sim card in it and tzone plan it work on incredible s very nice phone.but I can't confirmed for 3g because the place where I live no 3g network

Good to know. I have T-Zones $5.99 and live in a HSPA+ zone, so I may upgrade to this when my Nexus One croaks..
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anyone confirm web2go?

paullu said:
just got home from work tonight and I try put sim card in it and tzone plan it work on incredible s very nice phone.but I can't confirmed for 3g because the place where I live no 3g network
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Nice! Is it still working or did they pull the plug?

DukeL said:
Nice! Is it still working or did they pull the plug?
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yes it is still working .just like nexus one.

It's good to know because I will get HTC Incredible S 2-3 months later. It's one of two phones I will purchase this year (the other will be LG G2x).
Except Vibrant 2 (SGS 2) comes to T-Mobile (root it and rock with "sub-$10 internet), I'd put it aside.

mingkee said:
It's good to know because I will get HTC Incredible S 2-3 months later. It's one of two phones I will purchase this year (the other will be LG G2x).
Except Vibrant 2 (SGS 2) comes to T-Mobile (root it and rock with "sub-$10 internet), I'd put it aside.
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bro if you wait for two months go get htc Pyramid. it sure come to tmobile but don't know work with tzone or not..

paullu said:
bro if you wait for two months go get htc Pyramid. it sure come to tmobile but don't know work with tzone or not..
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I think the pyramid is going to weigh a lot more. I had the G2 in my hands and it was way too heavy. The incredible S is just at my weight limit. Do you know of any lighter phones coming out soon?

sdxda said:
I think the pyramid is going to weigh a lot more. I had the G2 in my hands and it was way too heavy. The incredible S is just at my weight limit. Do you know of any lighter phones coming out soon?
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http://m.pocketnow.com/android/htc-pyramid-first-renders
Look here.I Don't think so it will too heavy.g2 have keyboard that why make it heavy.

So everything still working fine on Tzones? Anyone else copped this bad boy for TZzones!!??

DukeL said:
So everything still working fine on Tzones? Anyone else copped this bad boy for TZzones!!??
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as soon as my paypal funds go thru (tues i think) I'm gonna order the phone for tzones. Anyone know any reliable merchants to get it at? I was thinking ebay. A few sellers have it for $540

http://www.plemix.com/phone-htc-incredible_s-phone has it for $503 Canadian

In case anyone is interested. I've gotten around 4-5mb download and around 3mb upload speeds with T-Mobile in the US, which is the same speeds I get with my current phone, MyTouch 4G.
I was wondering if I would get the same speeds because one phone is 3g and the other 4g but you do get the same speed because the 3g phone is supporting 14.4mb downloads and 5.76mb uploads. So, one phone being 4g and the other 3g is not making any difference.

Dodolom said:
In case anyone is interested. I've gotten around 4-5mb download and around 3mb upload speeds with T-Mobile in the US, which is the same speeds I get with my current phone, MyTouch 4G.
I was wondering if I would get the same speeds because one phone is 3g and the other 4g but you do get the same speed because the 3g phone is supporting 14.4mb downloads and 5.76mb uploads. So, one phone being 4g and the other 3g is not making any difference.
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That's because 4g on T-mobile US is just a marketing term and the rest of the world still calls it 3g. So imported 3g phone from Europe = T-mobile US 4g.

Dodolom said:
In case anyone is interested. I've gotten around 4-5mb download and around 3mb upload speeds with T-Mobile in the US, which is the same speeds I get with my current phone, MyTouch 4G.
I was wondering if I would get the same speeds because one phone is 3g and the other 4g but you do get the same speed because the 3g phone is supporting 14.4mb downloads and 5.76mb uploads. So, one phone being 4g and the other 3g is not making any difference.
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me here highest speed is 4mb never over 4.2mb.

Anyone with Total Internet (and in a "4g" zone) tried this? I got a G2 recently with the free upgrade, but of course it's IMEI is blocked and I haven't updated the plan yet. So, the phone is sitting unused. If the S works with Total Internet, I'd prolly just ebay the G2 and pick one of these up.

nixguy said:
plemix has it for $503 Canadian
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looks like its sold out..anywhere else to get it for that price?

Anyone have the exact model number for the HTC Incredible S that is working with T-Zones? I've seen a few online but some say they are not compatible with T-Mobile or US 3G. I just want to make sure I order the right phone is all. Just for further info, I have T-Mobile with the $5.99 plan which is still working with the Nexus One. Thanks again fellas.

Cyberthief2010 said:
Anyone have the exact model number for the HTC Incredible S that is working with T-Zones? I've seen a few online but some say they are not compatible with T-Mobile or US 3G. I just want to make sure I order the right phone is all. Just for further info, I have T-Mobile with the $5.99 plan which is still working with the Nexus One. Thanks again fellas.
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S710E. I have that model and it works great on tmobile. reception is eh though.

Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it. Now I can buy it and feel somewhat comfortable. I know there are a couple different types and I didn't want to make a $500 mistake.

What US network are you on if you have unlocked note?

I saw a deal for an unlocked "world" version of the note and I am on TmoUS. So if I buy the note, will I be able to use my unlimited data plan with 3g or H? I am confused reading the forums on the att side and this one...they're saying I can only get edge? Because that would really suck.
I'm on tapatalk and can't do a decent search on xda via app so if this had been asked already, just point me to that thread and I will gladly have this one deleted. Also, the desire to get the unlocked note is a spur of the moment kinda thing since the deal is only available for one day. Btw, unlocked note is selling for 585 with shipping from 1saleaday.
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what they said is right you will only get edge speeds on tmobile with the inter.. Note...If you use AT&T then its no big deal.

I am also on tmo. I found an article that says you can run tmo hspa+ on att note so I'm going to try and trade line on Craigslist. Edge is killing me man.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.

skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?

whocares2k7 said:
Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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that depends on the frequency of the 3g network in your area.
however, this is the first I've seen it mentioned that American t mobile has any other 3g bands than 700mhz.
So I'd say no, you most likely will not get 3g speeds.

The N7000 will only run on T-Mobile edge. If you want 4g you have to AT&T or Straight Talk.

This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.

Well, EDGE is downright terrible...no one can argue that. If you want to use T-Mobile, you're better off getting the AT-T note, unlocking it, then installing the right modem files to use it on 3g/4g. I use T-Mobile myself, and decided to keep the Int. version...I think it's better, and the development community is WAY better, mainly because the device has been out longer. It's up to you really. Don't hope T-Mobile will be updating it's 1900mhz spectrum in your area anytime soon...it's a process I'm sure will take many years.

ubermetroid said:
This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.

chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?

smalmagal said:
I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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Yes they do number porting as long as it is not a at&t number because straight talk uses at&t network.

It sucks that it is more difficult to get the inter version to work on 3g or h on tmo. I did read that the inter version is better than att version and I do believe that development will be better with the inter version as it obviously covers more countries and it has been out longer. I really want this note but I'm just gonna wait a bit. I have a feeling those guys working on getting tmo to work on inter version will be able to do it. Wishful thinking probably but it is possible with all the talented devs out there. I guess I'm going to be on sensation for a while until tmo comes up with a phone as awesome as the note. Thanks for all the responses!!
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Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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kotaro_14 said:
Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Noob question...how can I check? Are you getting 3g with tmo now?
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chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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FYI and I have heard of this issue before, Straight Talk gets varied reception in Metropolitian areas. Let me explain.
I have had ST for a few months now, on the NT7000. I have had zero issues.
A couple of caveats
DO NOT use more than 100mb/day or 2gb/month, whichever comes first. People have had their contracts terminated by ST for doing this. So not truly unlimited (but still more than decent deal). This is not a *hard* limit- I have done more without any issues by accident.
I get decent service in the suburb of NYC where I live (few tall buildings), actually much better service than Tmobile had.
However, in NYC itself, the service can be absolutely horrible depending on area. My guess for this phenomenon is that while you are on an ATT MVNO, this doesn't necessarily mean that you have the same roaming rights as regular ATT customers. In a metro area, roaming might be necessary to get signal in certain places.
My download speeds at 2gb down 1 up.
I would just buy a months' worth at first and try it out as prepaid, then port your number in.
From what I understand, you don't even need to buy the e71 like I did anymore

skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Which areas in Philly? I live in Philly but only manage to ever get Edge speeds on mine.

I use RedPocket. It's a MVNO of AT&T ....
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!

so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?

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so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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I do. I got it with the SGS II and ow with the Note. up to 3mbs download. Good enough. MediaNet is $10 a month unlimited, I don't use nearly 2GB maybe less than 1 as I am in WiFi most of the time. I am using a Cingular.wap setting. Its different than the "smartphone" APN but the speeds are the same (until LTE is available) I don't need LTE speeds on a phone. I don't even get those speeds at home on cable. maybe 7Mbs DL.

[Q] Moto X GSM Unlocked T-Mobile works outside the US?

Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?

aricris said:
Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?

moto x in Belgium
I got my T-mobile Moto X shipped to Belgium, it works on the local GSM networks.

joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)

TheSaw said:
We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though

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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.

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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs

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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.

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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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joemon871 said:
Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Well I could say casual user, I guess, but I use mostly wifi wherever I spend more time. Home, work, friends place, all have good wifi, so when I'm out, I switch to 3G, and in that time I don't really need super fast speeds.
Thanks.

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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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Romania?? of course I have!! have u heard about Ecuador? haha
At high school we studied most countries name around the world =) not as in...u may know where
And thanks!! means that it's really unlocked

joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday

aricris said:
Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
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Haha guess you'll have to find out yourself eh? let us know if it works

Works outside the us!
If you want it...buy it because it works!! The NO CONTRACT MOTO X is fully unlocked!!
Comes with a t-mobile nano card but that's no problem...I guess if that I need it at the US someday, I will have to activate it.