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Hello
I just destoyed my hd2 leo by mistake so i am looking for a new phone or 7 inch tab , so is the streak 7 a good device or not that good .
i need an honest answer please?
Thanks

gab182 said:
Hello
I just destoyed my hd2 leo by mistake so i am looking for a new phone or 7 inch tab , so is the streak 7 a good device or not that good .
i need an honest answer please?
Thanks
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It really depends on what you're looking for. I love mine, but my wife would hate it (that's why we got her a Galaxy Tab).

Z4nd4r said:
It really depends on what you're looking for. I love mine, but my wife would hate it (that's why we got her a Galaxy Tab).
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there is a review about the screen > they say the screen is not that good ,it has a bad display resolution not even close to galaxy tab .
i don't care about android OS 2.3 rooted is OK with me >

I really, really like mine, love the 7" size, the weak battery is the only concern I have with it. If you are getting it as a commuter tablet to watch video etc... on the way to work, probably not a good option (battery). If you want a good email, surf, e-reader, some video, apps type device it is great. I can usually last the day with moderate usage,3/4G enabled, on a single charge.
If there was a similar 7" HC cabable tablet with better battery, I would probably go with that if I was to do it again.

The screen is fine, if you really need hd movies on small screen, go for it, but for general movie watching, email, pictures, surfing, I doubt you would even notice/care.

purelywasted said:
The screen is fine, if you really need hd movies on small screen, go for it, but for general movie watching, email, pictures, surfing, I doubt you would even notice/care.
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what to expect from the battery 12 hr or less

It has a 2750mAh battery, I can squeeze 5 hours on AT&T 3G. 6 hours on WiFi w/ airplane mode. This is all w/ intermittent use. Watching a streaming movie will drop the battery down to a little over 3 hours.
In comparison, the Tab has a 4000 mAh battery. So make sure you have your charger. I like mine, it does what I need. For the price, its great at everything. Just hope someone comes out w/ a pen app to write w/ like the flyer.

I was just about to ask this question as well. The Streak is rather inexpensive compared to the Galaxy Tab and especially the G Slate, and offers performance that should be on par with the G Slate. However, I understand that the battery is rather poor, which is really my only major gripe. Has anyone had a Galaxy Tab and noticed any speed differences?

XPLANE9 said:
I was just about to ask this question as well. The Streak is rather inexpensive compared to the Galaxy Tab and especially the G Slate, and offers performance that should be on par with the G Slate. However, I understand that the battery is rather poor, which is really my only major gripe. Has anyone had a Galaxy Tab and noticed any speed differences?
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The battery is not poor, nor does the battery have anything to do with the tablet speed - I have had both and can say that the Streak is a much better deal. The Galaxy is stuck with Samsung's pathetic attempt at an interface called TouchWiz - it's full of bloatware and not terribly responsive. Nor is Samsung very reliable at updates - frankly their software sucks.

XPLANE9 said:
I was just about to ask this question as well. The Streak is rather inexpensive compared to the Galaxy Tab and especially the G Slate, and offers performance that should be on par with the G Slate. However, I understand that the battery is rather poor, which is really my only major gripe. Has anyone had a Galaxy Tab and noticed any speed differences?
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I own both the Galaxy Tab and the Streak 7, so I can comment on this with a little authority (as can docfreed). Let's take the issues one at a time:
Screen-
Admittedly, the Streak 7's screen isn't the best. The Galaxy Tab's is pretty awesome (at least as good as the iPad's, in my experience). That said, the Streak 7's screen is actually not that bad. I find that, aside from one issue, there is no difference in real world usage between the S7's screen and the Tab's. Unless you have them side by side, you wouldn't know the difference (other than the one issue I'll get to). In fact, I actually prefer the contrast ratio of the S7's screen to that of the Tab.
The one issue the Streak 7's screen has is viewing angles; well, one viewing angle. If you have the S7 held in landscape mode, the angle that would be "down" is pretty poor. This can affect "left" in portrait mode, too. I find the only time it's annoying is if the S7 is flat on a desk in front of you, but this can easily be managed by either flipping it upside down (where there is a nice viewing angle; the screen will auto rotate) or by using the media dock (if you get a Streak 7, get the media dock; it's really nice).
Performance-
Between the Streak 7 and the Galaxy Tab, there's absolutely no comparison. Streak 7 creams the Tab in everything imaginable. I don't care what the Quadrant scores are (that benchmark is really dated and not very useful); the Streak 7 positively blows the Galaxy Tab away.
Battery Life-
No contest. The Galaxy Tab wins, hands down. The Streak 7's battery is less than 3/4 the size of the Tab's, plus I think there's a problem with the performance optimisation (I'll be posting a thread on it here, soon). I personally use the S7 for my main device; that's for all computing (other than work), internet browsing, phone calls, media consumption, gaming, photos; you name it. I don't find the battery life to be an issue, but I do end up charging a lot. My wife can go all day and into the next with her Galaxy Tab on a single charge.
Internet Connexion-
This one's a toss up, in my area. T-Mobile 4G is way faster than Verizon 3G, with about the same coverage, but Verizon's connexion is more reliable. Your mileage may vary depending on where you live.
Interface-
The Streak 7 runs vanilla Android FroYo with a custom launcher (Dell Stage UI). Add any launcher (LauncherPro, ADW Launcher, Zeam, etc.), and you're on stock Android. The back end is all stock. I personally run Zeam in a 6x6 grid and find it perfect.
However, this will not appeal to all. There's a reason I got my wife a Galaxy Tab and not a Streak 7, and battery life/screen wasn't all of it. TouchWiz, as much as we Android faithful hate on it, is actually pretty nice for the average consumer. The little touches like the coloured menus and the text pointer (which Android fixes in Gingerbread/Honeycomb, but are still bo-bo on FroYo) are a real boon to many users. If you want an easy experience over upgrades and raw speed, TouchWiz is actually pretty nice.
So, which would I recommend? If you're on XDA, the Streak 7 is probably your winer. It's faster in every way, and will stay relevant in the coming months. If you'd rather all day use and a seamless experience (or if you're really into ROMs and themes, which are in short supply on the S7 but plentiful n the Tab), go with the Galaxy Tab.
Only you will know which choice is right for your needs, but I hope I helped shed some light a little on what those choices really entail.

+1 as above and...
you can optimize battery life (if you are rooted) by basically renaming the phone and telephony.provider apk's (I posted how I did this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102279
This stops "cell standby" and , I think, stops the software from continually trying to find a mobile data connection.
Anyway, it gave me an extra hour+ of battery life in my own simple testing.

docfreed said:
you can optimize battery life (if you are rooted) by basically renaming the phone and telephony.provider apk's (I posted how I did this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102279
This stops "cell standby" and , I think, stops the software from continually trying to find a mobile data connection.
Anyway, it gave me an extra hour+ of battery life in my own simple testing.
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But this will kill mobile data, right? Cell Standby is atrocious on this thing. My wife's Galaxy Tab will always have screen as the number one battery consumer, followed by an app or two (usually the Browser). On the Streak 7, it's always Cell standby at number one.

Z4nd4r said:
I own both the Galaxy Tab and the Streak 7, so I can comment on this with a little authority (as can docfreed). Let's take the issues one at a time:
Screen-
Admittedly, the Streak 7's screen isn't the best. The Galaxy Tab's is pretty awesome (at least as good as the iPad's, in my experience). That said, the Streak 7's screen is actually not that bad. I find that, aside from one issue, there is no difference in real world usage between the S7's screen and the Tab's. Unless you have them side by side, you wouldn't know the difference (other than the one issue I'll get to). In fact, I actually prefer the contrast ratio of the S7's screen to that of the Tab.
The one issue the Streak 7's screen has is viewing angles; well, one viewing angle. If you have the S7 held in landscape mode, the angle that would be "down" is pretty poor. This can affect "left" in portrait mode, too. I find the only time it's annoying is if the S7 is flat on a desk in front of you, but this can easily be managed by either flipping it upside down (where there is a nice viewing angle; the screen will auto rotate) or by using the media dock (if you get a Streak 7, get the media dock; it's really nice).
Performance-
Between the Streak 7 and the Galaxy Tab, there's absolutely no comparison. Streak 7 creams the Tab in everything imaginable. I don't care what the Quadrant scores are (that benchmark is really dated and not very useful); the Streak 7 positively blows the Galaxy Tab away.
Battery Life-
No contest. The Galaxy Tab wins, hands down. The Streak 7's battery is less than 3/4 the size of the Tab's, plus I think there's a problem with the performance optimisation (I'll be posting a thread on it here, soon). I personally use the S7 for my main device; that's for all computing (other than work), internet browsing, phone calls, media consumption, gaming, photos; you name it. I don't find the battery life to be an issue, but I do end up charging a lot. My wife can go all day and into the next with her Galaxy Tab on a single charge.
Interface-
The Streak 7 runs vanilla Android FroYo with a custom launcher (Dell Stage UI). Add any launcher (LauncherPro, ADW Launcher, Zeam, etc.), and you're on stock Android. The back end is all stock. I personally run Zeam in a 6x6 grid and find it perfect.
However, this will not appeal to all. There's a reason I got my wife a Galaxy Tab and not a Streak 7, and battery life/screen wasn't all of it. TouchWiz, as much as we Android faithful hate on it, is actually pretty nice for the average consumer. The little touches like the coloured menus and the text pointer (which Android fixes in Gingerbread/Honeycomb, but are still bo-bo on FroYo) are a real boon to many users. If you want an easy experience over upgrades and raw speed, TouchWiz is actually pretty nice.
So, which would I recommend? If you're on XDA, the Streak 7 is probably your winer. It's faster in every way, and will stay relevant in the coming months. If you'd rather all day use and a seamless experience (or if you're really into ROMs and themes, which are in short supply on the S7 but plentiful n the Tab), go with the Galaxy Tab.
Only you will know which choice is right for your needs, but I hope I helped shed some light a little on what those choices really entail.
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Thanks for all of you guys i made my purchase from eBay , S7 T Mobile 4g unlocked 16 gig $340 is that a good price for it .
and i do like a good ROMs like american droid from Cyanogen in my HD2 LEO , but not changing them every day like my brother .
i browse web to much with the HD2 also Gaming , i love android games more than my psp .
I do know the tigra 2 is power full cpu strongar than the Galaxy tab

gab182 said:
Thanks for all of you guys i made my purchase from eBay , S7 T Mobile 4g unlocked 16 gig $340 is that a good price for it .
and i do like a good ROMs like american droid from Cyanogen in my HD2 LEO , but not changing them every day like my brother .
i browse web to much with the HD2 also Gaming , i love android games more than my psp .
I do know the tigra 2 is power full cpu strongar than the Galaxy tab
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If you're using it for mobile internet and gaming, you made the right choice.

tv out
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If you're using it for mobile internet and gaming, you made the right choice.
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could i connect the S7 to a TV or any kind of monitors by HDMI or TV-out like the galaxy tab .

gab182 said:
could i connect the S7 to a TV or any kind of monitors by HDMI or TV-out like the galaxy tab .
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Yes. Get the multi-media dock and an HDMI cable. It also makes for a nice stand and lets you charge via AC while hooked up USB. Well worth the money.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-DELL-STREAK...ccessories&hash=item2310e424c4#ht_3404wt_1141
I got mine on eBay for about the same price.

i appreciate your help thanks
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Yes. Get the multi-media dock and an HDMI cable. It also makes for a nice stand and lets you charge via AC while hooked up USB. Well worth the money.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-DELL-STREAK...ccessories&hash=item2310e424c4#ht_3404wt_1141
I got mine on eBay for about the same price.
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Thanks i didn't know that . I'll git it and that leather case from folio , some screen protectors > car charge > silicon cover > 32 gig card or 64 gig if it available
and i'll look for a good rooted ROMs .

Z4nd4r said:
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Screen-
Admittedly, the Streak 7's screen isn't the best. The Galaxy Tab's is pretty awesome (at least as good as the iPad's, in my experience). That said, the Streak 7's screen is actually not that bad. I find that, aside from one issue, there is no difference in real world usage between the S7's screen and the Tab's. Unless you have them side by side, you wouldn't know the difference (other than the one issue I'll get to). In fact, I actually prefer the contrast ratio of the S7's screen to that of the Tab.
The one issue the Streak 7's screen has is viewing angles; well, one viewing angle. If you have the S7 held in landscape mode, the angle that would be "down" is pretty poor. This can affect "left" in portrait mode, too. I find the only time it's annoying is if the S7 is flat on a desk in front of you, but this can easily be managed by either flipping it upside down (where there is a nice viewing angle; the screen will auto rotate) or by using the media dock (if you get a Streak 7, get the media dock; it's really nice).
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One thing I actually like about the limited viewing angle is the privacy, if I am on the subway/bus, it is nice to know that it can be difficult for other people to read my screen. For most things it doesn't matter, but for some of my work email the more privacy the better.

Z4nd4r said:
But this will kill mobile data, right? Cell Standby is atrocious on this thing. My wife's Galaxy Tab will always have screen as the number one battery consumer, followed by an app or two (usually the Browser). On the Streak 7, it's always Cell standby at number one.
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Yes, it does definitely kill cell standby - as a matter of fact, instead of the little airplane in the notification bar (I always leave mine in "airplane mode" - it's not a phone) I now get 4 bars and an x just like on a cellphone with the data off.
And, on the "what's using the battery" I now get "Tablet Idle" and "Display" as the main things using the battery - "Cell Standby" has disappeared!

Just wondering but does the plastic exterior on the front scratch easily? I am OCD to the extent that I notice almost every flaw on my electronic devices.

Help, Is the Note right for me?

Eh!
I'm considering buying this phone (uh...tablet?) but there are somethings that kinda get me besides the price.
The first thing that I want to know from the owners of a SGNote, how long does the battery life last for you. I'm a heavy user on my smartphones (My Samsung Focus can't keep up.) and most of the times I'm no where near an outlet. Also, External batteries any good?
Second thing, Do most ROMs support the S-Pen? I was thinking of rooting it and putting ICS on the beast, but I'm scared that the S-Pen won't function correctly after.
Lastly, Heavy Duty Cases? I'm rough on my phones.

Hi there!!
Would not be able to answer all of your questions, however will pitch in for few.
Battery backup?
As you already know it basically depends on the usage of the phone, wifi/3g always on with bluetooth and other connections heavy screen on time 3d games will dry out the juice quicker,
My experience
Bluetooth on for 5 to 6 hrs 3g full day, good screen on time... Lasts me a day and a half!!
This is with franco kernel.
Hard case availability??
Right place to look at is the accessory thread for note... Loads of reviews for the cases and screenguards out there... And it seems otterbox will be comming out with a cover for note soon... Some petitions as well going out there!!
S pen support??
All the roms support s pen and as you want to install ics, lemme tell you that its even better on ics rom,. When i say better I mean more responsive! Soon in the official launch of the ics by samsung we are promised premium suite ie a bunch of applications developed by samsung keeping s pen in mind!!
In my opinion its a great device and you should definitely go for it!!
If it helped click thanks
SHOT from my LOADED GT-N7000!!

S-pen is functional in the ICS ROM I'm using (Stunner). Samsung's apps don't work but there are plenty of apps that support the pen. Quill even supports the pressure sensitivity.
With heavy usage I get about 6 hours out of a battery. Normal usage, wouldn't know, it hasn't run out yet in that case. I would estimate 15 hours. The screen is a huge power hog

pboesboes said:
The screen is a huge power hog
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That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there. I do use automatic brightness, though, perhaps that's the thing.

WereCatf said:
That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there.
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I strongly second this.

WereCatf said:
That's odd. On my Note it's the applications consuming much more power than the screen, the screen is actually the least of my worries there. I do use automatic brightness, though, perhaps that's the thing.
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It's on top of my battery stats list with 41% of sucked power. That's with a lot of screen time though.

I think Note is a great deal for any one who wants a phone to be more than just a phone !!!!

Note is defintely one of the best phone made.
Battery last for very long, 10 hours of heavy usage with 3.5 hours screen time on.
Size? Definately not a problem, will be big at first, and u will get used to it very fast, because its amazing experince browsing, watching vids, playing games on the phone. other phones will look like a toy to u soon.
So far most of the rom maintain s pen functionality. There are so many rom to choose from, just look for the one with the s pen support.
Why would the dev create a rom for gnote that dont support s pen in the first place when the s pen is one of the best things on note.
Good luck mate.

wait.... and buy galaxy s III

no wait and buy the Galaxy S IV...no wait and get the Note 3

my SGN runs slightly more than 12hrs...
minimun running services, all black non live wallpaper and 0% screen brightness.
and i always have the usb cable with me just in case my SNG needs an urgent charge along the way in the office.

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no wait and buy the Galaxy S IV...no wait and get the Note 3
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I dont know about you my man. Im ready to sell it my note...to get SIII On the first day of realize

avetny said:
I dont know about you my man. Im ready to sell it my note...to get SIII On the first day of realize
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yeah its crossed my mind but im confident that a couple days later i would want my big ass screen back..
whatever the sgs3 has a lot will probably go into the next note so i may just wait till then.

I have been using the Note for four months now and it is easily the best device I have used over the years. Here's what I think you should consider.
You shouldn't buy the note:
1. If you have really small hands, I mean REALLY small!
2. You hate using your phone with both hands (you need to most of the time)
3. If you hate the weight (but frankly, its light for it's size)
Why you should buy the note:
1. Brilliant display
I have seen people complain about the Pentile Matrix but you can't spot any differences. The display is brilliant. If you notch up the brightness to full and play a 1080p video, you will know what I mean. The big size also means that the Note is a better. Reading is amazing on it, literally. You can zoom in and the text is still super clear. There are a lot more stuff to it too. You will see when you buy it.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K353JnA5QKg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=10&feature=plcp
2. Battery
The 2500 mAH battery is kickass. It last thourgh a full day of heavy use or two days of low to moderate use. If one 2500mAh battery aint enough, you can get more from eBay. I bought a three battery pack with an external charger for $14 and they are doing pretty well.
Listing link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-x-2500mAh...100845?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item256f009bed
It is a bit disappointing when you use your data plan a lot. But hey, you cannot have everything.
3. XDA Support
I have seen highly active forums before when I was using the HTC HD2 and the Desire HD. I must say that the Note devs and forums are brilliant. People like Chainfire, Chris X and eybee1970 are all coming up with new stuff. There are at least 5 stable ICS ROMs now. This is something you cannot get with any other phone.
4. Games
I have tried playing big and small games on the Note and they all look great. Fun games like Cut the Rope, Angry Birds etc are brilliant as usual and the bigger display just makes it better. HD games like Modern Combat 3, Shadowgun and Dead Space are in a league of their own. But somehow, I never really ended up playing big size games much.
5. GPS
Take my word. GPS is Amazing. I get locked on to 5m within a minute sometimes and the chip is so fast. It can be your ideal navigator.
GPS Demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arOYNNux_mg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=7&feature=plcp
6. Connectivity
If you have been around the Note threads for a while now, you would have seen a guy named NZTechFreak post a connectivity demo of the Note. If the above features didn't seal it for you, that should. It describes how you can put the different connectivity features of the Note and make it function like other devices.
Here's the link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEb-DICYCgg&list=UUFYR86TpcLB6aEag-oofN6A&index=11&feature=plcp
For what I know, the Note is the best of the following:
1. A high-end Android phone with all features
2. A very good camera
3. A tablet like device that fits into your pocket and weighs reasonably less.
4. A gaming console wherein you can emulate all classic games, connect to a HDTV via MHL, use a bluetooth joystick and play.
5. A HD Media Play, wherein you use your USB OTG to connect to a 1TB HDD or a 2GB pendrive to see content on the go. You can switch with MHL and use with your TV.
6. A portable gaming console, which lets you play some of the best games out there on the go.
7. A great eBook Reader, that will easily last for several hours even if you continuously. The Super AMOLED makes the experience super cool.
8. A Internet device, using which you can view webpages the way they are meant to be.
9. Run Ubuntu on it and use it as a PC, with all features.
There are probably more cool stuff I can say, but you get the point
I hope I was convincing enough
Credit to NZTechFreak for making so many cool and useful videos about the Note

MrDSL said:
yeah its crossed my mind but im confident that a couple days later i would want my big ass screen back..
whatever the sgs3 has a lot will probably go into the next note so i may just wait till then.
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True !! this is only 1 thing I will miss !

Why did you bought Optimus Black ? - Reasons

Hi Guys. I wanna start new topic. Tell me the reasons why did you bought LG P970.
First I:
- it was very good looking and with style what I like
- in 2011 this was one on the slimmest smartphones. I checked that on www.phonegg.com/top/12-Slimmest-Cell-Phones but now is out of list
- it was looking like Iphone 4 but with bigger display. Now is similiar to Iphone 5 black.
- I was thinking to buy Samsung Galaxy S1 but Optimus Black was better: have Flash, no pentile and screen brithness was much better (very important if I want to see something outside during sunny day)
- price was ok about 250 Euro
- I was quite sure that device will get Android 4.0 because was avalialbe on May 2011 in shops. ICS was realased in October 2011 (18 months support for updates )
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My OB is a 2nd hand phone. i like its design, and it has the world's brightest display the nova ips... it is still the brightest today but not that crisp as the new technology displays like htc lcd2 and amoled2. who cares... i got a phone OB that when full brightness on full white screen fully lights up a big room like a florescent lamp... hehehe

4". Good display. Thin.
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Thin. Cheap. Good camera and has ICS :v Haha.

My black was the best phone I could had been obtained while I change my ITSP.
And Im proud of what I selected

After this phone, lot of L series came, and some others, even so ours is best and unbeatable
I don't wish to sell..
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I bought it, because it has 4" display, 5 Mpx camera, CM support, official android 4.0, and also it has good value to money. I bought it for 500 zł (Polish money), for example SGS4 costs 2500 zł.
Sent from my LG Optimus Black

I wanted the O2X but it was too expensive even with contract so I got the OB instead.Not a bad decision.
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Same as the OP really... got it when it first came out in Germany, that was 3 years ago - along with a new contract so "free".
I still like its style, looks, size and display (was getting crazy searching for a new smartphone, because I need the high screen brightness and couldn't find a new phone that even comes close, lol).
What I didn't like were the initial very bad stock roms (battery life of ~10h idle...), the occasional slowdowns and keyboard crashed I got using stock roms, so I rooted and used a variety of custom roms. Phone is still running good, but I am now considering to buy something new, probably the Optimus G. I just need more performance for multitasking, plus my GPS has been acting up for a while now.
All in all I don't regret getting the phone, as it is one tough piece of hardware. It has fallen down like 50 times, been used daily without a hull or cover, gotten wet, been full of mud, and it still works No scratches on the display either, just the back plastic cover is full of them, but who cares.

I bought it because it was good looking and thin,with nice hardware and the brightest display.
And all of these at a reasonable price.I love it!The only thing that i miss is the USB OTG feature.

it was cheap when i bought it. switched from Samsung Wave 2 because of bigger (better) screen, slim body and android.
dropped it several times but still without scratches or cracks :angel:
do not regret it. should have purchased it in black color, though

OB-bob said:
it was cheap when i bought it. switched from Samsung Wave 2 because of bigger (better) screen, slim body and android.
dropped it several times but still without scratches or cracks :angel:
do not regret it. should have purchased it in black color, though
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Very much the same as you,. It was the IPS screen that won me. And if it gets somehow USB OTG I will be happy camper.
It has served me faithfully for over two years and it is a definite value for money. After all this time without screen protection there are only couple of very fine scratches, not visible when looking straight to the screen.
Only real downside is battery being bad to start with and gone worse over time, which turned out to be related with LGs chip design .
P.s. I came from nokia 5800 and samsung wave 1

I bought it since my dear Samsung Wave 1 was stolen and this phone was the best about quality/price. I have to admit that seeing knzo create the very first topic of our forum had helped.

I got it because it was light in weight, the awesome display, not to big, good hardware specs at the time, good development of custom roms and a good community to back it up.

My ob is second hand !!!
Bought it for emergency !!! When i lost my galaxy sl !
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Thanx to HEUXXX !!!!!

It was a great phone for the price he had, and the look of it was very worth it.

First for the screen, secondly for the design. Nova is stil one of the best screen (very bright, neutral colors and large angles of view), even versus newest phones. My girlfriend has a S3, Nova beats its over-saturated amoled...

Because its cheap and I got it as my second device. Am also gonna use for devment
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1) 4 inch screen back then (2011) was considered as quite big
2) thin and light
3) couldn't afford more expensive device as I'm a student

never baught it, my good old sister had the OB and SG-S1 for her daughter. she went on and got her self another SG-S1. so i asked her to be a loving sister and give her brother a present.....something like OB.
i had SG Gio, and it was nice until i saw the light with the OB. i like its size, screen, weight, and overall looks. i use it for almost a year and its still rocks. and since i got it from sis, i never say no to presents and passed my Gio to the wife.
mean while my sister upgraded both hers and daughters phone, she got SG Note, and for her daughter SG-S3, so i asked her for her old SG-S1 in order to compare with the OB. she gave me both her SG-S1 for me and my wife. my wife sold the Gio, and she is happy like i was when moving from small screen phone to a bigger one.
as far as for me, after 2 weeks of using the SG, i still like the OB better. they are so similar with the specs but still screen is way better and the camera has the flash which is a plus for me.

Disappointed in the Tab S

I am planning to return my Tab S 8.4 today. Though the screen looks stellar and the build quality is great I just can not get over the terrible battery life in normal use (IE not limited just to movies with a darker theme) or the performance issues that this pair of Samsung processors has. I get so much noticeable lag and hesitation that it is just to annoying for a product like this. I really wish they had put in a SD 801 or 805 so that performance was stable and smooth across the board. Battery life if you do anything that uses much light colors is just terrible. The screen drains the battery so fast with web use for example. Reviews back this up. Testing with a movie on loop can have great results up to 12 hours if it is a dark enough movie but testing with a light background with web use on review benchmarks shows that time drop down to 7 hours. Unfortunately I don't do much movie watching on a tablet so it is a particular issue for me. I had it side by side with my ipad mini retina doing the same work and it was draining twice as fast as the iPad. I really wish they had not felt the need to go so thin and instead gave us a revolution in battery performance.
I can only imagine what this device might have been like if they released it with a SD 805 SoC and 10mm thickness with doubled battery life.

I've been using a black background on my amoled screens from S2, S4 and now S5. Dark themes in any apps that have them. On the Tab S I'm also trying night mode in Next Browser. Battery seems good so far and should be a little better with root/custom rom's.
I'm pretty damn picky and it's fast enough for me.

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I've been using a black background on my amoled screens from S2, S4 and now S5. Dark themes in any apps that have them. On the Tab S I'm also trying night mode in Next Browser. Battery seems good so far and should be a little better with root/custom rom's.
I'm pretty damn picky and it's fast enough for me.
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Yeah, I really don't WANT to return it. I love that screen. Maybe I should try Next...In chrome most things are white and it is quite a drain. I also use black backgrounds. Primarily B/W portraits.

I am also disappointed in the performance of the device. It seems to stutter and lag constantly, even when not under heavy load. Maybe the L release (if it comes out for the tablet) will fix that, but I'm not holding my breath.
It seems like on a device coming out mid-2014, there should be no UI stutters.

I should also note that I'm using Nova Launcher so I can't speak much for lag on the Touchwiz Launcher.

HughesNet said:
I am planning to return my Tab S 8.4 today. Though the screen looks stellar and the build quality is great I just can not get over the terrible battery life in normal use (IE not limited just to movies with a darker theme) or the performance issues that this pair of Samsung processors has. I get so much noticeable lag and hesitation that it is just to annoying for a product like this. I really wish they had put in a SD 801 or 805 so that performance was stable and smooth across the board. Battery life if you do anything that uses much light colors is just terrible. The screen drains the battery so fast with web use for example. Reviews back this up. Testing with a movie on loop can have great results up to 12 hours if it is a dark enough movie but testing with a light background with web use on review benchmarks shows that time drop down to 7 hours. Unfortunately I don't do much movie watching on a tablet so it is a particular issue for me. I had it side by side with my ipad mini retina doing the same work and it was draining twice as fast as the iPad. I really wish they had not felt the need to go so thin and instead gave us a revolution in battery performance.
I can only imagine what this device might have been like if they released it with a SD 805 SoC and 10mm thickness with doubled battery life.
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Since you prefer battery life to size, you might consider the Tab pro 8.4 Sam rez, slightly thicker, no amoled, SD 800, and really good battery life for surfing.

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Since you prefer battery life to size, you might consider the Tab pro 8.4 Sam rez, slightly thicker, no amoled, SD 800, and really good battery life for surfing.
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I actually have 3 of those in the house, my 2 sons and my wife. It is a nice device but not one that would cause me to sell my iPad Min Retina and switch. I was hoping the display and build of the Tab S would be that device. I think I may give it a second shot, try to live on the dark side as much as I can. Now that we have root I may be able to fix a couple issues.

I replaced my Tab Pro 10.1 for the Tab S 10.5. Speed and battery life on my part is much better on the Tab S than on the Tab Pro. Also, Wifi reception is much more better. My only complaint is with KitKat and not Samsung. They changed the permission setting and because of than, I cannot copy file from the internal memory to my SDCard with RootExplorer or save it directly on the SD Card with Dolphin Broswer.

For what its worth I am running Nova Launcher and have never experienced any lag whatsoever. Yeah battery life isn't great but that is never as advertised.
Wait for Freeza or someone to crank out a nice ROM for us and what lag there may be will improve. His ROM made my 8.4 Pro much faster.

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I replaced my Tab Pro 10.1 for the Tab S 10.5. Speed and battery life on my part is much better on the Tab S than on the Tab Pro. Also, Wifi reception is much more better. My only complaint is with KitKat and not Samsung. They changed the permission setting and because of than, I cannot copy file from the internal memory to my SDCard with RootExplorer or save it directly on the SD Card with Dolphin Broswer.
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If you use the Samsung My Files you can do that. And now that there is Root for your tablet you can always remove that restriction right now all together.

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If you use the Samsung My Files you can do that. And now that there is Root for your tablet you can always remove that restriction right now all together.
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Yes, I discovered that yesterday. But still a pain that I have to use My Files app while Root Explorer could be doing it without any problem. I'm holding off root for the moment. I rooted my Note 2 but I don't have any reasons for the moment to root my Tab S.

I have the Tab 8.4 S and have zero issues with lag or battery and I would consider myself a heavy user. Playing games to watching HD movies while surfing the web and the battery does just fine.
Now... I do have Nova installed and did so as soon as I got the device onlined since I customize the hell out of my devices so I never experienced the TouchWiz launcher. I also have Clean Master and Battery Doctor installed. The combination of these three has made this my main device not only for home and hobby but also my work.

Touchwiz is actually Korean for "pretty eye candy that makes your tablet go slow". I swear.

I sold my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and bought a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 a couple says ago. Battery and performance are much better on Tab S IMO. This thing will be a beast after flashing a mod or two.

My only real gripe with this tablet is not how fast the battery drains but how long it takes to charge. This has to be the slowest charging electronic device I've ever owned. Wonder why?

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My only real gripe with this tablet is not how fast the battery drains but how long it takes to charge. This has to be the slowest charging electronic device I've ever owned. Wonder why?
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Are you using the stock charger? I never bothered with it from the get go and I am unsure how many volts it is.
I picked up a Rocketfish 10.2v from BB months ago at no cost using my Rewards. Priceless!

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Are you using the stock charger? I never bothered with it from the get go and I am unsure how many volts it is.
I picked up a Rocketfish 10.2v from BB months ago at no cost using my Rewards. Priceless!
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The stock charger is 5v 2amps. Not sure I would want to risk any higher.

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The stock charger is 5v 2amps. Not sure I would want to risk any higher.
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Be careful increasing the volts but the more amps the better. Though high end devices have power controllers so it doesn't matter how much over the specs you go the recharge will always be the same.

My two cents
I have owned every galaxy from vibrant to S4. I owned an N10 (currently have a 2013 N7 and N5). I owned a Note 2. For what its worth, even with the extra pixels to push, I don't think this is a hardware issue. Touchwiz has always just been a poorly coded behemoth of a skin. With the exception of the Note 2 (which TW seemed to be very smooth on)...it has always had frame stutters and an ass ton of processes eating up cycles. Whenever I flashed a stripped down...or even better an actual AOSP (I love slim) ROM, performance on these devices have been flawless.
Full disclosure... my 10.5 S is charging right now and I have not even fired it up yet. But I will immediately root and debloat the Eff out of this thing. I agree that Sammy's tablet update cycle is ridiculous...and that a snapdragon should have been the cpu by default, but que cera cera.
Once I fire it up...I will report back.

So far here are my 8.4 gripes after about 24 hours of ownership:
Battery life - I charged it to 100% prior to use and was a bit shocked that I lost 10% just doing the setup and installing my apps.
Pentile screen - Part of this is my fault as I did not realize the 8.4 is pentile and I thought both the 10.5 and 8.4 were Super Amoled Plus. There is a bit of a softness to the 8.4 screen that seems unusual considering its size and PPI. In some ways I find the Nexus 7 screen a bit better and more realistic. I own a LG G3 and the QHD display on it is fantastic, and I had thought the 8.4 would have a little of that magic but it is not in the same league at all. I wonder what the real PPI is on the 8.4 considering it is pentile, I gather it is less than the Nexus 7. This may be a dealbreaker for me, I am going to use it tonight and do a little side by side with my Nexus 7 and Note 10.1 2014.
That said Netflix looks great on this device, the best I have seen so I wonder if the app does some sort of edge sharpening. When I watch 1080p content streamed to the 8.4 find it is not as sharp as it should be and really no better than the Note 10.1.
Going to give it another couple of days and see if it grows on me.

ZTE Axon M in the house

I have received the ZTE Axon M and currently using it. Fire away any questions. Still trying to figure out how to post pics

When you’ve used it for a few days maybe you can give an indication of what the battery life is like.

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When you’ve used it for a few days maybe you can give an indication of what the battery life is like.
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I also have the Axon M, and I can say that it at least has better battery life than the Note 8. I took both phones off the chargers at 9pm (Nov. 8th) when I woke up to get ready for work. By the time I got home from work at 7am (Nov. 9th), my Note 8 was at about 77%, and my Axon M was at 82%. While at work, I streamed music to my bluetooth headphones on the Note 8, and used my Axon M to read a Kindle book and surf Facebook during my two 15 minute breaks, and my hour lunch. I still haven't put either phone on the charger yet, and it is midnight (Nov. 10th). Note 8 is at 52%, Axon M is at 76%

I've had mine for a week now and can give some impressions. Have used it exclusively and set aside my S8. Battery life is very good as long as you don't use the dual screens all day long which is what I end up doing. It's very hard to go back to a single screen as the extra real estate is very nice. While battery life isn't stellar, if I see it drop under 40% I keep it on one screen only. Good news is it recharges very fast! At least as fast if not faster than the S8.
Using the dual screens: I almost always use it in one large screen format. The middle gap can be. Little annoying but it's so much easier to type (doing that now) and navigate web pages. For emulators it's pretty rad as I dedicate the entire bottom screen to act as a touchscreen pad.
The dedicated media button or TV now button can be changed but I use it for DirecTV now. I tried using TiVo with two screens but sadly the media always pauses when touching the other screen so it's frustrating.
Two big problems with this phone are the camera, which is just not great compared to the S8. The other big problem is scratching. I know this is gorilla glass 5 and I have babied this thing, but got a minor stuff on the back bezel (not on screen). I had to cut out some cheapo screen protectors while waiting for skinomi skins and next month! For glass protectors. If I keep the phone I will be swapping it out wit attached for a new one.
I ordered the axon m case from ZTE as well. Last issue and my fellow M owners can help in this, when accepting a phone call the audio on the headset doesn't work until I switch to speaker, then I can toggle back to earpiece. Think it's a little bug they need to patch.
All in all a great phone. Makes me want a truly folding oled screen but I am likely to keep this.

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For emulators it's pretty rad as I dedicate the entire bottom screen to act as a touchscreen pad.
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How did you get emulators to work with using the two screens as one big screen? I tried two different ds emulators, and both said that the app wasn't optimized and disabled the second screen.

Under settings you can force all apps to run extended mode (a). Then run emmulators in portrait mode and adjust screen size to half and half. Easy

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Under settings you can force all apps to run extended mode (a). Then run emmulators in portrait mode and adjust screen size to half and half. Easy
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somehow I swear that option wasn't there before. I only saw the option to force support for dual mode. Now the option to force support for extended mode randomly decided to show up.

How easy or difficult would it be to unlock this phone for use outside the USA?

Flavio said:
How easy or difficult would it be to unlock this phone for use outside the USA?
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Extremely easy. If you're not an AT&T customer, you can unlock the phone for free on their website. They email you a code within 2 days.

johnnobts said:
I ordered the axon m case from ZTE as well. Last issue and my fellow M owners can help in this, when accepting a phone call the audio on the headset doesn't work until I switch to speaker, then I can toggle back to earpiece. Think it's a little bug they need to patch.
All in all a great phone. Makes me want a truly folding oled screen but I am likely to keep this.
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The case doesn't work very well for me and I hate the glass screen protectors. I think I'm going to try and have it wrapped in that plastic at the mall. ? As far as the issue with the speaker, I have that happen too but my brother does not on his axon m. I think it only happens when I have the Bluetooth on. When I turn off the Bluetooth I don't have a pro lemme with the speaker.

Is your phone running Oreo? I have mine coming in the mail hopefully it'll run the update. People claim to have Oreo on this site but I don't see any videos/images of one running Oreo and working