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[Q] I want a kernel that blocks recovery and download mode by pin code

hello,
I stole my gt n7000, he was protecting by pin. (simcard and phone)
The thief did that was back in recovery mode or download to reset the settings.
It would be interesting to be able to protect the download mode and recovery, a password or a PIN code for the phone is That a brick.
(minimum 6 digits for real security )
there is an application to do this?
I think rather a kernel with this option.
next month I will buy the galaxy note 2, and I am very happy to have a phone that turns into a brick if it gets stolen again!
I'm ok to take the risk of losing the pin code (if I get amnesia) and not being able to use my phone, but it's so unlikely that it happens!
so many people could do this, there would be less robber smartphone ...
I'm right when I say that.

gomatrixor06 said:
I stole my gt n7000
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omg wat. gaiz we have have a thief here.
jk.
I think I get what you're trying to say.
Pretty sure I've actually searched this up before cuz I've also thought about how much more safer it would be to have pin protected recovery.
Similar to how you can password protect your computers bios to stop people from booting from usb/cd etc.
But the search results were basically like:
"It's not worth it."
"It's still pretty easy to circumvent etc."
and the typical "If you want something, make it yourself." response.
So yea.
Unfortunately no kernel (that I know of) supports this.

I know that in France people take knives to hit a smartphone, it would be better for everyone that manufacturers include this option directly on any smartphone.
I think that must be an online petition.

I too thought of this several time but nothing can be done anyone can wipe the phone after stealing it and use it normally
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gomatrixor06 said:
I know that in France people take knives to hit a smartphone, it would be better for everyone that manufacturers include this option directly on any smartphone.
I think that must be an online petition.
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It doesn't happen so often in France because a stolen phone can be blacklisted by french operators database (imei blacklist).
A good way would be a worldwide blacklist of stolen phones.
International roaming is possible, so I think international blacklist would be possible.

Think thats a brilliant idea.

lionelia said:
International roaming is possible...
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Isn't that punishment enough? You'll get poor soon with this stolen device when paying for roaming.

I think avast has the option to have the anti-theft app stick to your phone... even after a factory reset.

XxPixX said:
I think avast has the option to have the anti-theft app stick to your phone... even after a factory reset.
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What if the thief know how to flash a new fresh rom through odin thrn the avast will not persist
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XxPixX said:
I think avast has the option to have the anti-theft app stick to your phone... even after a factory reset.
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Its partly secure.
It would be gone if you format system.

I stole my underwear
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least we can do is.. always safe keep our personal belonging..
we used, hard earned money to buy smartphones and other gadgets, etc..
be extra cautious..

Nexus 6 Unblock

I really enjoy my Nexus 4 and wasn't planning to change it until it fails, but i found an Nexus 6 at a very attractive price...
The guy who sells it says he got it from outside the country, it was working and he did an factory reset and now the phone wants the previous gmail account and password to finish the reset. I don't know how true is his story, and I really don't care...
I'm tempted to buy it, but can it be resurrected? Can i root it, install a custom recover and ROM, as the phone is? I don't want to end up with an paper weight...
The rooting guide suggest it's possible, but it says that first i have to enable OEM Unlock and USB Debugging, and this has to be done from the phone.

kiarfuzzy said:
I really enjoy my Nexus 4 and wasn't planning to change it until it fails, but i found an Nexus 6 at a very attractive price...
The guy who sells it says he got it from outside the country, it was working and he did an factory reset and now the phone wants the previous gmail account and password to finish the reset. I don't know how true is his story, and I really don't care...
I'm tempted to buy it, but can it be resurrected? Can i root it, install a custom recover and ROM, as the phone is? I don't want to end up with an paper weight...
The rooting guide suggest it's possible, but it says that first i have to enable OEM Unlock and USB Debugging, and this has to be done from the phone.
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No, it cannot be recovered without the gmail password. This is a security feature. This leads me to believe that the phone may be stolen.
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Oh and questions go in the Q&A section, not in general forum.

I did some research on the new "Device Protection" and it seems pretty solid... But i'm afraid this will kill the second-hand android market also...
Just a few scenarios:
1. I want to sell my phone, but obviously i don't want to sell it with my account. How will i do that?
2. I buy a SH phone, i enter my email then do a factory reset. What will happen than? Will it ask for my account or the previous one?

kiarfuzzy said:
I did some research on the new "Device Protection" and it seems pretty solid... But i'm afraid this will kill the second-hand android market also...
Just a few scenarios:
1. I want to sell my phone, but obviously i don't want to sell it with my account. How will i do that?
2. I buy a SH phone, i enter my email then do a factory reset. What will happen than? Will it ask for my account or the previous one?
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Neither of your scenarios are causes for concern.
1: Only a moron would sell a phone without performing a factory reset BEFORE handing it over to the purchaser.
2: See #1.
3: ALWAYS perform a factory reset **AND** network test with YOUR SIM CARD WITH the seller BEFORE handing over the money. If it completes successfully, then you're golden. If it is a NEXUS device, perform an OEM UNLOCK on it before handing over the money. If it completes successfully (along with functional network), then you're golden.
If #3 is not possible, you should ensure that your method of payment protects you from fraud of this nature.

If you're selling your phone, or passing it on to someone else, you can remove your account before you do so. Factory resetting without removing your Google account first will not un-protect the phone. If you reset without removing your account it will remained locked to your account.
To turn off device protection, remove your Google account from your device. If you have Developer options enabled on your device, you can also go to Settings > Developer options and check "OEM Unlocking."
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Without access to a Google account that was previously setup on a protected phone there seems to be no way to activate it on a new Google account.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6172890?hl=en
On a side note; if you've changed your Google account password don't factory reset your phone for at least 72hrs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59780601&postcount=4

kiarfuzzy said:
I really enjoy my Nexus 4 and wasn't planning to change it until it fails, but i found an Nexus 6 at a very attractive price...
The guy who sells it says he got it from outside the country, it was working and he did an factory reset and now the phone wants the previous gmail account and password to finish the reset. I don't know how true is his story, and I really don't care...
I'm tempted to buy it, but can it be resurrected? Can i root it, install a custom recover and ROM, as the phone is? I don't want to end up with an paper weight...
The rooting guide suggest it's possible, but it says that first i have to enable OEM Unlock and USB Debugging, and this has to be done from the phone.
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Nobody should be selling used Nexus 6 at any kind of discount at this point in time.
The reason it is a discount, is because it is STOLEN.
If the owner of the registered gmail account cannot be contacted, then the ownership chain is broken and the device is stolen.
It *MAY* be possible to bring it back to life using low level reinitialization, HOWEVER, it could also have a blocked IMEI, making it useless on a network even IF you manage to clear the lockout.
If I were you, I would report this seller to law enforcement.

So after i do a factory reset, I verify my account and the reset finishes. Than it will be like a new phone, my account will than be removed and the buyer will have to enter a new/his account?
@doitright
I'll stick with my Nexus 4... Reporting him to the police will probably be just a waste of my time...

Look here for a bit more info:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6172890?hl=en
Again, thanks @efrant for finding this.
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Oops, I see this link was already provided. Sorry.

If the boot loader is unlocked can it be flashed back to 5.0.1 and do away with the new security feature all together, of course if it is stolen/blocked imei then of course it still wouldn't work

If you look on eBay for used iPhones, you'll see many cheap 5 and 6 variants - except in cases where the phones are horribly damaged, they are usually iCloud Activation Locked. I tend to see that as a comparable concept to Lollipop's Device Protection scheme and it may likewise lower some phone theft numbers over time, for all we know.
At the very least, Device Protection might make people more cautious when purchasing Android phones - a seller on eBay sold me a locked S5 and none of her passwords worked - fortunately, this was KitKat, so performing 10 bad passcodes forced a factory reset with no additional locks.
- ooofest

Yup, stolen, don't buy.
It's always fun to see these - the phone at a great price, only one thing wrong with it ....
Here's a way to get out of it without calling the person a thief, ask for the IMEI to have it checked, betcha they don't want to give it out.

kiarfuzzy said:
@doitright
I'll stick with my Nexus 4... Reporting him to the police will probably be just a waste of my time...
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You really should report him. As should *everybody* who runs into this kind of fraud. You're right, it probably won't amount to anything, but in the off chance that it could, then you manage to do something good and it doesn't cost you anything.
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RW-1 said:
ask for the IMEI to have it checked, betcha they don't want to give it out.
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Nobody with an ounce of sanity would give out the IMEI anyway, since that is all you need to GET a phone blacklisted.
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There is a strong possibility that some variation of http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fix-fix-qhusbbulk-cm12-t3059518 would be able to fix a locked out device.

doitright said:
Nobody with an ounce of sanity would give out the IMEI anyway, since that is all you need to GET a phone blacklisted.
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Seen this a few times now. I don't think that is how it works. Pretty sure you have to prove you owned the phone. As in it was attached to your account, or a police report. If you can just call and say your phone with blah blah IMEI was stolen and they don't verify anything what's stopping me from just blacklisting all phones (of I had enough time to go through all IMEI's)?
(OK that's a bit extreme as it would take well longer then a few life times to call and so each one, but you get the idea)

doitright said:
There is a strong possibility that some variation of http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fix-fix-qhusbbulk-cm12-t3059518 would be able to fix a locked out device.
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Possibly. It would be great if that is the case. We just need someone to figure out how.

help please
ok.. i was not aware of the new device protection thingy and bought a nexus 6 for 150$. Realistically what is my option? i have search everywhere in xda for solution but have not able to find it yet. Without access into the phone to enable usb debugging and enable oem unlock there is not thing much to do right? Resale with a warning that is lock with email account ?

haixingau said:
ok.. i was not aware of the new device protection thingy and bought a nexus 6 for 150$. Realistically what is my option? i have search everywhere in xda for solution but have not able to find it yet. Without access into the phone to enable usb debugging and enable oem unlock there is not thing much to do right? Resale with a warning that is lock with email account ?
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Your only option is to try and return it. Or try to sell it as unusable.
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How Easy is it To Get Around a Blacklisted EMEI?

Someone in my family had her Galaxy S9 stolen. She reported it to Verizon and they had the EMEI blacklisted with all carriers.
But how permanently attached is the EMEI number, can't you just wipe it/hack it?
How sophisticated does a thief have to be to circumvent it and make it work on a carrier again?
FYI: I am not asking anything about how to "get around a blacklisted EMEI" number nor do I want to hear about a single way of doing so.
I simply wanted to ask if blacklisting the EMEI is very effective against a phone thief?
We had a brand new S9 stolen, and reported it to Verizon, but they are just general customer service. So their claim that it can't be used by anyone in the US doesn't really mean much to me

halfhumble said:
Someone in my family had her Galaxy S9 stolen. She reported it to Verizon and they had the EMEI blacklisted with all carriers.
But how permanently attached is the EMEI number, can't you just wipe it/hack it?
How sophisticated does a thief have to be to circumvent it and make it work on a carrier again?
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It can be done. We don't necessarily allow discussion of how to do it here for obvious reasons, but the guy would have to be fairly competent on a computer to go in and do that.
More than likely he'll sell it really cheap to someone or a shady outfit that does know how to do it.

orangekid said:
It can be done. We don't necessarily allow discussion of how to do it here for obvious reasons, but the guy would have to be fairly competent on a computer to go in and do that.
More than likely he'll sell it really cheap to someone or a shady outfit that does know how to do it.
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Okay, that's what I figured, I thought there must be a way.

halfhumble said:
Okay, that's what I figured, I thought there must be a way.
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Unfortunately yes. That is one thing iOS has over Android, I don't think it's possible to reprgoram an IMEI on an iPhone, so once it iCloud locks it really is a brick.
I still prefer Android though because of other pros.

orangekid said:
Unfortunately yes. That is one thing iOS has over Android, I don't think it's possible to reprgoram an IMEI on an iPhone, so once it iCloud locks it really is a brick.
I still prefer Android though because of other pros.
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Interesting, didn't know that. Android manufactures should follow suit to reduce phone thefts.
Maybe it would have been better to NOT blacklist the EMEI when it's stolen, so that the thief or buyer activates it. Then report it like a month later to track who has it at the time.
If it's been sold, the police could work backwards from the for sale listing or emails with the buyer (Craigslist for example). Kinda elaborate though.....

halfhumble said:
Interesting, didn't know that. Android manufactures should follow suit to reduce phone thefts.
Maybe it would have been better to NOT blacklist the EMEI when it's stolen, so that the thief or buyer activates it. Then report it like a month later to track who has it at the time.
If it's been sold, the police could work backwards from the for sale listing or emails with the buyer (Craigslist for example). Kinda elaborate though.....
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Yeah well it's not on the manufacturers really, I think it's just a limitation of AOSP and the way android works. Even KNOX can't prevent it or even working around FRP (which I had to do not too long ago for a legitimate forgotten password).
But yeah I think those types of thefts are probably too low importance for the cyber crime division to go thru those types of hoops. The only real possibility would have been to try to track the phone when turned back on, or put one of those invisible self installing tracker type apps in the SD card.
End of the day if you lose or phone or it gets stolen, you're pretty much SOL.

orangekid said:
Yeah well it's not on the manufacturers really, I think it's just a limitation of AOSP and the way android works. Even KNOX can't prevent it or even working around FRP (which I had to do not too long ago for a legitimate forgotten password).
But yeah I think those types of thefts are probably too low importance for the cyber crime division to go thru those types of hoops. The only real possibility would have been to try to track the phone when turned back on, or put one of those invisible self installing tracker type apps in the SD card.
End of the day if you lose or phone or it gets stolen, you're pretty much SOL.
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"self installing tracker type apps in the SD card." Didn't know that existed. Will look into that.

Stolen Note 8 - How to prevent reflashing

Hi,
Last night my Note 8 was stolen. I had it tracked and locked using Google but I believe the guy removed the sim or it died after noticing me locking it. I went on to erase the data on Googles "Find your Android".
So my Q is, can the thief just reflash the software and use the phone? Is there anything preventing this from happening?

He can't. When he reflashes the phone it will ask for the last Google account connected to the phone. Without that login the phone is useless

its the worst thing, even if he cant use the phone, he can still sell battery, camera,speakers, screen anything with hardware except motherboard. whatever you do, if you have an expensive phone keep it with you even when you are going to sleep

gsser said:
its the worst thing, even if he cant use the phone, he can still sell battery, camera,speakers, screen anything with hardware except motherboard. whatever you do, if you have an expensive phone keep it with you even when you are going to sleep
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so the thief could technically speaking buy a broken phone and use the motherboard from that and have a cheap phone?
at least the original poster had the sense to erase everything via the Google account.

Make sure you report the theft to appropriate authorities so that the emei will be blacklisted/blocked.

Report the imei as stole.

Problem is with carriers even if blocked will work in some other countries eg here in UK wen a phone stolen and emei blocked can b used in Africa and States, don't make sence to me

j_hansen said:
so the thief could technically speaking buy a broken phone and use the motherboard from that and have a cheap phone?
at least the original poster had the sense to erase everything via the Google account.
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no thats not it, even if imei is blocked, he can pry back glass cover and take small HW devices like fingerprint, nfc, cameras, speakers, battery, and many pieces that connects to the mother board. he wont be able to use motherboard otherwise he will be caught as soon as he turns on the device(imei).
point is stealing a phone for using yourself is a silly idea, you can make profit from HW pieces cause you dont pay for anything, its like stealing cars. you dont find the car but when police finds it in scrapyard by looking at chasis number, you will see the car as naked. this is like it

You can report the IMEI as stolen here http://imeipro.info/report-stolen-lost-phone.html
In this way, you make sure that they won't be able to use it with any other network.

RossTeagan said:
You can report the IMEI as stolen here ...... with any other network.
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I am a noob, but is this safe? I have seen cautions against disclosing the IMEI no in the internet.

Buildwell said:
I am a noob, but is this safe? I have seen cautions against disclosing the IMEI no in the internet.
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Don't worry, you only report the emei when phone is stolen ...

Buildwell said:
I am a noob, but is this safe? I have seen cautions against disclosing the IMEI no in the internet.
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You are right to be cautious and not disclose your IMEI. And a lot more users should do the same.
However, as your phone is stolen, at the moment, you will need to report it, so the only thing to do is register the IMEI with a service that updates the Blacklist database.
You don't need to use the first IMEI reporting service, just check any service you find trustworthy.

frp lock would prevent the thief activating the phone. unfortunately there are ways to bypass this.

thuglife said:
frp lock would prevent the thief activating the phone. unfortunately there are ways to bypass this.
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Like what?

I think Cricket can flash the phone for use on its network, even if its been stolen.

myechophone said:
Like what?
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That will not be disclosed here.

Op asked what to do now that his note 8 has been stolen, the only choices are:
Lock/erase itwith google
Lock it with samsung find my mobile
Report the imei to carrier/vendor
Report to authority
And that is pretty much it, worrying about what the thief will do, is useless, just accept your loss and go on, feel sorry for you, anybody can be robbed, it has happened 2 times to me, a SE xperia S, and a Note 4

myechophone said:
Like what?
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Like Mr. Orange 645 said its not allowed to discuss that here.

My Note 8 was dropped out of the car in front of a restaurant. The person who found it took it home with him/her (I know this because I tracked it). The police said they don't visit peoples homes anymore because the tracking isn't always 100% accurate. I reported the phone stolen to my carrier, erased all of the data via Samsung's website, and the only thing that concerns me is the photo's and documents that were kept on the SD card. Certainly sucks. I'm devastated over this.

Secondlaw said:
My Note 8 was dropped out of the car in front of a restaurant. The person who found it took it home with him/her (I know this because I tracked it). The police said they don't visit peoples homes anymore because the tracking isn't always 100% accurate. I reported the phone stolen to my carrier, erased all of the data via Samsung's website, and the only thing that concerns me is the photo's and documents that were kept on the SD card. Certainly sucks. I'm devastated over this.
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That certainly sucks, sorry to hear about it. Too late now of course, but I suggest encrypting the SD card in the future to limit the "damage" in a case like this.

Question Google Locked Galaxy Tab A8

Hello everyone,
A few days ago I was given a sm-x200 at a local tech shop that is google locked. A factory reset was done, but sadly the account is still there and nobody has the original info. I'm very unfamiliar with tablets so I don't know to remove the account. Is there a way to remove this account? I'd hate to throw this tablet away since it's in good condition.

adrian0883 said:
Hello everyone,
A few days ago I was given a sm-x200 at a local tech shop that is google locked. A factory reset was done, but sadly the account is still there and nobody has the original info. I'm very unfamiliar with tablets so I don't know to remove the account. Is there a way to remove this account? I'd hate to throw this tablet away since it's in good condition.
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That is an anti-theft lock and the only way to unlock it is to contact Samsung tech support and show "proof of purchase". Back in the Android 6 and 7 days, there were ways to circumvent it, but Google has since made it next to impossible to get around.

lewmur said:
That is an anti-theft lock and the only way to unlock it is to contact Samsung tech support and show "proof of purchase". Back in the Android 6 and 7 days, there were ways to circumvent it, but Google has since made it next to impossible to get around.
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That really sucks! I guess there is nothing I can do since I didn't buy this. Thank you for replying.

One more thing. Do those programs like Tenorshare 4uKey actually work?

adrian0883 said:
One more thing. Do those programs like Tenorshare 4uKey actually work?
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You tell me. $30 gamble to find out.

lewmur said:
You tell me. $30 gamble to find out.
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I might take the risk since it was a completely free tablet. I'll post if it works once I do it.