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I made the blunder of deleting gtalk on my captivate. When I realized I messed up I did a factory reset and unrooted my phone. I am a novice at best. Now I have a stock phone with no ability to download apps. Atleast the phone works. I think
I have found the gtalk apk. Files but my phone wont install them because they are not from the market. What can I do that will not put me.in a position to further destroy my phone? Will at&t or.Samsung be able to just reinstall all stock software? Reading the post on this site I know I am playing with things I do not understand. Any guidance would be great
You can go back to stock very easily, just follow the instructions in this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
After that you'll of course have to re-root or run SRE or what have you.
Two options:
You can run odin from a windows machine to reflash. Probably the best bet and you can try one of the newer firmware versions. From there you may want to flash sre and the lag fix for a stable and greatly improved phone.
if you have a good .apk then you can flash utb or sre over as an easy way to enable sideloading.
I realize the above mentioned thread may be convoluted and flooded with nonsense and the same questions 30 times, if you can't figure odin out pm me as I've done it before and the devs have enough projects on there plate and might not answer question that have been answered.
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I am not a strong tech Guy and I obviously got over my head. AT&T is sending me a refurbished unit and since there is no physical damage it is a one for one swap. I am going to leave rooting to those who understand what they are doing
You had the .apk's, why didn't you just sideload them from your computer?
Why would you give up on trying to fix it without even really trying? It's not that hard. My mom has this phone and all I do is tell her where to go to find the directions and programs she needs and she can do it herself.
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I am not a strong tech Guy and I obviously got over my head. AT&T is sending me a refurbished unit and since there is no physical damage it is a one for one swap. I am going to leave rooting to those who understand what they are doing
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You're sending your phone back to ATT because you deleted a file??!?!??? Not to mention youre getting someone else already used handset (the refurb) that they already sent back instead of just fixing the NEW one you have in your hands?
Why give up so easy? This phone is practically impossible to break. You should try root explorer, its like a simple file explorer that actually has root access and can dig into your system files, then its easy as copy/paste.... or run one click odin, its literally one click, hence the name.
Yea I guess I am a chicken. I looked into side loading but I just ddid not want to further damage anything. These boards are overwhelming with all of the skripts and what not. I have already factory reset my phone so I starting from scratch anyway mock me if you like I deserve it
Why would you even buy this phone if you were not going to learn about how it works before you go and delete something? It it seemed that overwhelming from the start you should have gotten an iPhone as all Apple products are made for dumbed down end-users.
I offered my individual help just pm me, the board can be overwhelming I know but the reflash to stock is very simple. One step simple.
Then sre is also simple but to each his own.
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Okay, obviously I was rooted. Everything was great. I went into CWM, when I was going to flash a simple script mod (which every phone can use) well I accidently clicked off into my SGII files (which of course was stupid of me) and it installed fluxii kernel for SGH-i777. (intern flashes a custom recovery for the xx tweaker that that particular kernel uses. Of course, I didn't even realize I had done it, just went to Reboot Now. Now, I've got no Download mode, no bootloader, no anything, just blackness, I feel as if there is a simple key process or way to somehow get it fixed so I can flash it back via ODIN, but with all the confusing button combo's and ideas I've found so far, and all the ' types of bricks ' I dont know the best route about doing this, whomever helps me get my phone unbricked/unsoftbricked/superbricked/cute bricked, which ever version (assuming its possible) I swear on my life I will mail them a 32GB HP touchpad.
(I have 3 and only need 2) so, I hope this in some way will get me an answer soon.
I cantbelieve I pulled a n00b. No more not moving data from SD cards for me ever again...
Thanks, and the sooner the better.
Mail me here, or gmail me ( [email protected]) or heck text me if you want (i have my SGII still) just message me priavtely for the number. Thanks you guys you're the best.
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Okay, obviously I was rooted. Everything was great. I went into CWM, when I was going to flash a simple script mod (which every phone can use) well I accidently clicked off into my SGII files (which of course was stupid of me) and it installed fluxii kernel for SGH-i777. (intern flashes a custom recovery for the xx tweaker that that particular kernel uses. Of course, I didn't even realize I had done it, just went to Reboot Now. Now, I've got no Download mode, no bootloader, no anything, just blackness, I feel as if there is a simple key process or way to somehow get it fixed so I can flash it back via ODIN, but with all the confusing button combo's and ideas I've found so far, and all the ' types of bricks ' I dont know the best route about doing this, whomever helps me get my phone unbricked/unsoftbricked/superbricked/cute bricked, which ever version (assuming its possible) I swear on my life I will mail them a 32GB HP touchpad.
(I have 3 and only need 2) so, I hope this in some way will get me an answer soon.
I cantbelieve I pulled a n00b. No more not moving data from SD cards for me ever again...
Thanks, and the sooner the better.
Mail me here, or gmail me ( [email protected]) or heck text me if you want (i have my SGII still) just message me priavtely for the number. Thanks you guys you're the best.
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I would rccomend trying to use Odin to see if it recognizes your phone? You may have to get a USB jig to force it into download mode and you may be able to save it that way I'm pretty sure a jig would work
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Yeah thats Kinda my thinking as well unfortunately, Why the hell cant they sell them at like, I derno, the "rooted developer" store? hell Samsung should just include them in the box with as easy as root is. lmao What I don't get, is why the hell someone can't make a ' USB JIG ' out of their computer, or you know, something to tickle that little ports happy spot lmfao
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Yeah thats Kinda my thinking as well unfortunately, Why the hell cant they sell them at like, I derno, the "rooted developer" store? hell Samsung should just include them in the box with as easy as root is. lmao What I don't get, is why the hell someone can't make a ' USB JIG ' out of their computer, or you know, something to tickle that little ports happy spot lmfao
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Yeah, I'm mean there pretty cheap online and if you have the buts you can make your own since its only a 300k resistor. I think that's your only way out tbh :/
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I just wanted this issue brought to attention to all the people from other forum sites ive tried to try their methods clearly, Marshmellows and Chicken dumplins wouldnt work, so if we could figure it out here, itd be nice to have it in a smart people zone. seriously someone f'n said, for me to stick my finger where the socket meets the charger... i was like, "consider me "BRICKED"
why cant they sell these damn jigs on craigslist for immediate satisfaction? oh well some idiot just offered to trade me one of my 3 SGII's I own for a note and 50 bucks haha "I WANT IT UNROOTED AND NORMAL" was his email. hahaha
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I just wanted this issue brought to attention to all the people from other forum sites ive tried to try their methods clearly, Marshmellows and Chicken dumplins wouldnt work, so if we could figure it out here, itd be nice to have it in a smart people zone. seriously someone f'n said, for me to stick my finger where the socket meets the charger... i was like, "consider me "BRICKED"
why cant they sell these damn jigs on craigslist for immediate satisfaction? oh well some idiot just offered to trade me one of my 3 SGII's I own for a note and 50 bucks haha "I WANT IT UNROOTED AND NORMAL" was his email. hahaha
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Lol, how much would you be willing to sell your touch pad for by the way? And eBay is probably a good bet for a jig. Its just a pain nearly all of them are sent from china so you have to wait like 2 weeks :/
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IN TRUE NERD FASHION: any devices you'd be willing to part with for one or two of them, I have 10 16gb the day I remember telling mom "MOM LET ME BORROW 2000 dollars I swear it will pay off take it out of my savings anything" haha...
but cash isnt whats important to me, just technology really..idk, hell they're going for ridiculous onebay right now. and err, lets just say mine dont run CM9, or MIUI, hell I have my own recovery, Webos is all i knew for a while. I was always scared to post here, for the number of n00b post haters. I just stopped caring about those haha. I also have 2 Palm pre 2's running Android via a glitch in the Launcher/Wallpaper, and a Pre 3 Running ICS hybrided with basically the apps running in the 'recent windows ' version of ICS....
I really dunno man right now is I NEED TO GET THIS NOTE FIXED ASAP anyone know like a local place to go get it fixed temporarily they've gone to before. hell XDA should buy like shipments of them. we're the only ones that buy the damn things anyway.
also one more idea i found is this: idk if it just doesnt make sense to me, but if someone can make sense of it for me, and tell me its worth a shot...by all means..explain. http://samsunggalaxyreview2.blogspot.com/2011/07/one-click-unbrick-tool-for-samsung.html
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also one more idea i found is this: idk if it just doesnt make sense to me, but if someone can make sense of it for me, and tell me its worth a shot...by all means..explain. http://samsunggalaxyreview2.blogspot.com/2011/07/one-click-unbrick-tool-for-samsung.html
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It might be worth a go man. I would reccomend having it plugged into a computer and keep trying to turn it on even if the screen doesn't turn on and see if Odin picks anything up. Its not going to hurt your device anymore :/ you could always go to a hardware store and buy a mini USB and a 300k resistor and trying to make a jig yourself if that unbrick doesn't work (which I don't think it will)
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Well what do I have to lose? Potentially (with better instructions of course and a noob friendly UI) if it works on my note, ill try it on my original galaxy...who knows few tweaks and maybe all these folks suffering from bricked Notes/SII/SIII's will have an easy way to fix it. (hey guys, just let me be optimistic here.. at least unti somebody else comes up with a bright idea haha
Quote of the day:
"I feel the same way about apple as I do herpes.
First good news (ill just edit this post from now on), I see alot of really weird things going on in my Device Manager, or well things that weren't there prior...time for phase 1.
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First good news (ill just edit this post from now on), I see alot of really weird things going on in my Device Manager, or well things that weren't there prior...time for phase 1.
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What have you done so far?
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Fixed. I'll write up a XDA guide, and no I didnt use that silly guide. I used a trick the stupid guy at samsung tech support told me about something on the back of the phone will write up in a bit.
it involves a paperclip, and a hidden compartment behind somewhere where most would never dare stick anything, its rather a hidden reset button or something I wouldnt recommend it to anyone however...if someone finds themself in a bind id gladly help, but its that way or shipping it back if done wrong basically I just got lucky.
so CLOSE THREAD PLEASE THANKS
Red brick with white cement pattern, I dig that type of brick
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Fixed. I'll write up a XDA guide, and no I didnt use that silly guide. I used a trick the stupid guy at samsung tech support told me about something on the back of the phone will write up in a bit.
it involves a paperclip, and a hidden compartment behind somewhere where most would never dare stick anything, its rather a hidden reset button or something I wouldnt recommend it to anyone however...if someone finds themself in a bind id gladly help, but its that way or shipping it back if done wrong basically I just got lucky.
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McGuyver type nice. That or prevert sticking things in dirty places
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Ok so, I bought this awesome device and Im waiting for it to be delivered. I know that rooting has awesome features and great things, but Im wondering if someone has experienced any kind of issue after rooting... I read somewhere here in the forum, that the Wifi on someone's tablet stopped working and he had to return it.. Sadly, I can't be returning stuff since I live out of the states and is not that easy... Hope someone can tell me ^^ Would love to have 3 or 4 answers for me to take my decision. Thanks in advance.
Jailuis
jailuis said:
Ok so, I bought this awesome device and Im waiting for it to be delivered. I know that rooting has awesome features and great things, but Im wondering if someone has experienced any kind of issue after rooting... I read somewhere here in the forum, that the Wifi on someone's tablet stopped working and he had to return it.. Sadly, I can't be returning stuff since I live out of the states and is not that easy... Hope someone can tell me ^^ Would love to have 3 or 4 answers for me to take my decision. Thanks in advance.
Jailuis
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If you follow instructions to a complete letter and make sure it's the correct rooting instructions for your version number, then all should be well but I do have to say that it's always done at your own risk. There's no way around that.
I have not read anyone else with rooting problems on here for the KFHD. The guy with the wifi post which I've read most likely got a dud. Mine was rooted and ran fine for me. I returned mine for other reasons.
Just be careful on what you do to your device. If you do something you shouldn't with your "extra privileges", it can be easy to brick your device. Especially when it's so young in development stages right now.
I received my fire a week ago. I intended to root it like I have all other android devices I own.
I have kept it stock and probably will for awhile. I just did not feel the need to root. I side loaded GMail and most other Google apps I wanted. I side loaded adw launcher and dolphin browser. So I feel no real reason to root since a few people have had problems.
Now when the boot loader gets unlocked and there is custom Roms now that is a different story.
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I rooted yesterday. Got go ex as default launcher, play store, dolphin, etc. No problems yet. Seems faster, if anything.
There aren't many risks with it other then the average (brick). Which can occur with any device. Just make sure you follow the steps correctly step by step, and make sure your adb drivers are installed correctly.
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I rooted yesterday. Got go ex as default launcher, play store, dolphin, etc. No problems yet. Seems faster, if anything.
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About the only reason I'd root is for the play store
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You risk having a better running tablet
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My devices are all rooted, for my Bionic, it's so that I can use AdFree, Titanium Backup and to run AirBubble, which let's AirPlay devices see the phone and ply music to it remotely (or to whatever speakers it's plugged in to! ) It doesn't have to be used for illegal stuff, it just unlocks your phone's administrator privileges so that those that know specific use cases which require lower level code can go ahead and run. If you can already do everything you want with your phone, you don't need to root it.
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My devices are all rooted, for my Bionic, it's so that I can use AdFree, Titanium Backup and to run AirBubble, which let's AirPlay devices see the phone and ply music to it remotely (or to whatever speakers it's plugged in to! ) It doesn't have to be used for illegal stuff, it just unlocks your phone's administrator privileges so that those that know specific use cases which require lower level code can go ahead and run. If you can already do everything you want with your phone, you don't need to root it.
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Rooting is good for getting rid of bloatware too.
With rooting there is always a risk that you are going to screw something up. The easiest way to ensure that doesnt happen is to not root the device. But if you are going to anyway just don't do something you don't fully understand unless you are willing to take the risks.
For example if you do not know how to use adb then don't try at this time, play around with it on something else. If you still want root and don't know adb then use the automated root tool. All the hard stuff is done for you and there is no chance of inputting something wrong and causing problems. To avoid any conflicts with apps or settings reset the device to factory. Just one more step to take human error out of the equation.
After the device is rooted is when people tend to cause problems for themselves. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!! If you are messing around inside a file manager any folder outside the sdcard folder has the potential to cause problems so- IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!!(unless you can afford the risk)
When making changes, research what you are trying to do extensively and don't rely on one source. What worked for one person will not always work for another, to many variables.
All in all just aire on the side of caution.
Thanks for all responses ^^ I've had other android devices and I had rooted them, but Im afraid with this one since I read about the wifi not working anymore... But thanks to all of you I might give it a shot. One last thing, I have 2 KFHD, do I have to install Adb for both?
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Thanks for all responses ^^ I've had other android devices and I had rooted them, but Im afraid with this one since I read about the wifi not working anymore... But thanks to all of you I might give it a shot. One last thing, I have 2 KFHD, do I have to install Adb for both?
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I used the auto root tool without issues. I would think once you install adb on your Pc it should work for both. I had to also install the android sdk tool.
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no risk.just go ahead.toot it.lol
onemeila said:
With rooting there is always a risk that you are going to screw something up. The easiest way to ensure that doesnt happen is to not root the device. But if you are going to anyway just don't do something you don't fully understand unless you are willing to take the risks.
For example if you do not know how to use adb then don't try at this time, play around with it on something else. If you still want root and don't know adb then use the automated root tool. All the hard stuff is done for you and there is no chance of inputting something wrong and causing problems. To avoid any conflicts with apps or settings reset the device to factory. Just one more step to take human error out of the equation.
After the device is rooted is when people tend to cause problems for themselves. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!! If you are messing around inside a file manager any folder outside the sdcard folder has the potential to cause problems so- IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!!(unless you can afford the risk)
When making changes, research what you are trying to do extensively and don't rely on one source. What worked for one person will not always work for another, to many variables.
All in all just aire on the side of caution.
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Thanks.
Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.
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Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.
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TiBu is your friend
rawintellect said:
TiBu is your friend
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Word.
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glassjosh said:
Didn't see this anywhere, so I thought I would try and hopefully save at least one person some time/frustration. I, like many people on this site own multiple devices and swap my Sprint service back and forth between them. I normally do this through Sprint.com. I just got my GS4 and spent hours testing what launcher would be the fastest with this SOC, and setting everything up exactly the way I wanted it.(I always keep things stock for the return period so I had no real way of making a backup) After I got everything the way I wanted, I activated this beauty...but upon doing this, I didn't see the fine print that the profile update triggers a factory data wipe.. **POOF** and all my app/prefs/etc. were gone. Needless to say, I was LIVID. I waited until I was calmed down to call customer care. The rep I spoke to advised that they changed it to require a factory data wipe when switching service online and you need to call customer care to attempt a manual IMEI/DEC/HEX swap.
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Had you already activated the device at least once before you attempted the online activation that resulted in the factory reset?
So I can confirm that this is indeed the desired behavior of chameleon. Whenever activation info is changed through HFA, then the device is now supposed to hard reset.
While this is certainly inconvenient if you didn't know it would happen (as us here in the store didn't know this was going to be the behavior going forward either), the reasoning behind it is sound: chameleon is put in place so that identical models of phones that are different sprint channels (sprint post paid, prepaid, boost, etc.) can run the same firmware; chameleon handles the bloatware payload for each channel. In other words, sprint no longer has to have different software packages for the same phone just because one gets sprint zone etc. and the other gets boost stuff etc.
Now, hopefully we get to a point to where chameleon is smart enough to recognize the current payload and decide whether a hard reset is necessary, but...baby steps I suppose.
EDIT: also, profile updates on their own don't require a reset. It's part of the whole HFA process that does it.
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Nope, it was a new device I wanted to set up and play with on wifi before activating it. Now I just have to call CC and have them swap the devices manually.
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It's only your friend if you're rooted, I always keep stock FW for the return period of a device since you never know. I have always had mixed experiences with restoring app data as well.
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It's only your friend if you're rooted, I always keep stock FW for the return period of a device since you never know. I have always had mixed experiences with restoring app data as well.
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I've never had ONE bad experience with TiBu. Ever. If you know what you're doing it's fine. And why wouldn't you root? You can always unroot at any given time. And yes the counter can be reset.
The debate for rooting belongs elsewhere, I'm well aware you can reset counters, unroot, however, it's not worth the time when the risk of returning is high IMHO. You don't have to know what you're doing in TiBu, that's the beauty, but you still have a better chance of stability when using new app data, and it only takes 1 bad experience with some things..
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The debate for rooting belongs elsewhere, I'm well aware you can reset counters, unroot, however, it's not worth the time when the risk of returning is high IMHO. You don't have to know what you're doing in TiBu, that's the beauty, but you still have a better chance of stability when using new app data, and it only takes 1 bad experience with some things..
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LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.
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LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.
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I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, only warn others to possibly help someone out; which is the whole purpose of this site. I certainly don't have time to troll anyone's posts. Before you get more butt-hurt, read what I said. I know from my "MANY YEARS" of android tinkering and development, that you only need time to read, not to truly know what you're doing. Apparently we have different ideas of what that means. Never did I state that rooting was inferior, that's absurd. And how would you know the risk of me returning the phone in the return period? You obviously don't read or comprehend well. As stated before, I'm well familiar with the process for tweaking android devices, especially Samsung since I have 6 of them. I'm so super impressed with your vast knowledge though..
Wow. That escalated quickly for no reason. You ignores someone for having an opinion about not rooting a phone in the first seven days of owning it. I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that don't root in that first week, that includes me as one of them.
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LOL! You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours. I know from my own personal experience of MANY years of tinkering with android devices that you DO have to know what you're doing in TiBu or you're screwed. If you backup the wrong thing (say a system app from a different release of android) and restore it to an entirely new system you've just borked your device and are on a one way trip to bootloop city, population: YOU. And you'll have a full restore in your future.
As for "debating" on rooting? I'm not. Why even come on to XDA if you won't root? If you want stock apps stick to Google Play and sprint community forums. But don't come on to XDA and tell me or anyone else that rooting your phone is inferior to not rooting it. It just isn't. Period.
Stability is only as good as the person that coded it. That INCLUDES stock OEM ROMS or updates. I can count on two hands updates from manufacturers that have gone terribly wrong and been fixed by the devs in the XDA community LONG before they were fixed by the manufacturer. So your point about "new app data" is wrong as well.
And finally the "risk" isn't high. At all. Stop scaring folks. If your phone boots into the bootloader it's recoverable. Period. Even if it DOESN'T boot into the bootloader you can still recover it. I've had 8 HARD bricks. All of them recovered. Some even required EMMC_RECOVER to rewrite the bootloader. Don't know what that is? I'm not suprised. Let me google that for you. The WORST EVER required JTAG (again let me google that for you) to fix. But it WAS fixed.
I'm all done with this back and forth and I'll just place you on ignore and hope people see that you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Enjoy.
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I am new to rooting and have been wanting to root my ATT N900A but I honestly have no idea where to start or where to learn the basics. I have read a lot of the forums to try and learn most of it on my own but the lingo has been quite the challenge, some users say things I've never heard of and kind of already advanced more than what I have actually learned. Is there someone who can help me out with my rooting and learning about it all? Please and thank you
Floridaa said:
I am new to rooting and have been wanting to root my ATT N900A but I honestly have no idea where to start or where to learn the basics. I have read a lot of the forums to try and learn most of it on my own but the lingo has been quite the challenge, some users say things I've never heard of and kind of already advanced more than what I have actually learned. Is there someone who can help me out with my rooting and learning about it all? Please and thank you
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Did you honestly try a search here? I mean just looking down the list of threads I can count 5+ related to your question with answers. But let me humor you here. What version is your baseband? The last three letters. If they are MJ5 then Google Kingo Root and use it. If they are anything else then you will need to look for the Da la verga method.
To find your baseband go to settings, general, about device.
what is your purpose for rooting. I'm afraid you'll just brick your phone..
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what is your purpose for rooting. I'm afraid you'll just brick your phone..
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Exactly. Rooting for no purpose other than to be rooted (which won't do anything for you if that's the only reason you're doing it) is throwing your warranty away for no reason, even if you don't damage the phone.
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Did you honestly try a search here? I mean just looking down the list of threads I can count 5+ related to your question with answers. But let me humor you here. What version is your baseband? The last three letters. If they are ML5 then Google Kingo Root and use it. If they are anything else then you will need to look for the Da la verga method.
To find your baseband go to settings, general, about device.
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I rooted my MJ5 Baseband with Kingo Root.
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Rukbat said:
Exactly. Rooting for no purpose other than to be rooted (which won't do anything for you if that's the only reason you're doing it) is throwing your warranty away for no reason, even if you don't damage the phone.
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You can always reset the phone back to original factory settings (if you don't trip Knox Counter) and they will never know you rooted.
StormChaser83 said:
You can always reset the phone back to original factory settings (if you don't trip Knox Counter) and they will never know you rooted.
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So you root your phone for no reason other than to be able to say "I rooted my phone", then you unroot it.
Net result? Five minutes of your life that you'll never get back.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would anyone want to waste effort doing something that makes absolutely no difference once it's done? Is there some kind of thrill in having a rooted phone that I missed?
I also used Kingo. it was a no brainer...
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So you root your phone for no reason other than to be able to say "I rooted my phone", then you unroot it.
Net result? Five minutes of your life that you'll never get back.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would anyone want to waste effort doing something that makes absolutely no difference once it's done? Is there some kind of thrill in having a rooted phone that I missed?
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It takes like 5 minutes. You press the Root button then go do something for 5 minutes. No time wasted. . You do 2 things at once. . LOL
I guess I still don't get it. Press the button, the phone is rooted. You never install rooted apps so ... what's the point? Ir is that the point, that there is no point?
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I guess I still don't get it. Press the button, the phone is rooted. You never install rooted apps so ... what's the point? Ir is that the point, that there is no point?
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I'm not rooted now. Honestly, i do see your point. . I'm sure people root just to say they are rooted. lol. . . When i got my Galaxy S3 last february I rooted. I didn't know what to do with it. . . (I have a Galaxy Note 3 now). I rooted my GN3 a while back just to uninstall the bloatware, but then my phone started screwing up, so i had to reset it. So now most of those bloatware apps are just disabled.
Floridaa said:
I am new to rooting and have been wanting to root my ATT N900A but I honestly have no idea where to start or where to learn the basics. I have read a lot of the forums to try and learn most of it on my own but the lingo has been quite the challenge, some users say things I've never heard of and kind of already advanced more than what I have actually learned. Is there someone who can help me out with my rooting and learning about it all? Please and thank you
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Clearly you are looking for someone to do it for you, no effort on your part.
Look what happens when I copy paste your question into xda search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=root my ATT N900A
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I'm not rooted now. Honestly, i do see your point. . I'm sure people root just to say they are rooted. lol. . . When i got my Galaxy S3 last february I rooted. I didn't know what to do with it. . . (I have a Galaxy Note 3 now). I rooted my GN3 a while back just to uninstall the bloatware, but then my phone started screwing up, so i had to reset it. So now most of those bloatware apps are just disabled.
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I rooted my Galaxy Precedent (the hard way, with adb), just to be able to feel as if I was in a Linux environment, not having everything fenced off from me. I must have also put about a dozen different ROMs on that thing. Tried lots of iffy apps too. But for $40? Not much of a loss if I could never get it working again. (It still works, I just don't use Sprint any more. And for what a used Precedent is worth, I'd rather keep it.)
My N3? Tried Kingo, just to see if it worked. Undid it a few minutes later. I can't think of anything I need root for. Not even TiB. I have all my apps backed up, and my data isn't anything like "deathless prose", so if I lose track of my Solitaire game, I won't lose any sleep. Documents, scans, pictures - all backed up off the phone.
My only "deviation from the norm" is that this phone WILL NOT get updated to 4.4x until the OTA's been out for a few months, and no one screams that it ate their phone. I don't want to be like the people with S3s who jumped on 4.3, only to have expensive mp3 players. And if KitKat turns out to be as thrilling </sarcasm> as I've heard, I won't even bother then. About the only thing I can't do with the N3 is watch live TV, and that's my current cab;e company's fault - I could before I moved and had to change companies.
But root? Not until something comes along that I really need, and that needs root. (There's even a non-root replacement for wireshark.)