TAB S2 and general questions regarding ROOT or lack thereof - Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello fellow samsungers;
hope you are enjoying the festivus.
I recently purchased an S2 9.7. This thing is hot, but I digress.
I am coming from a rooted Nexus 7 running CM13.
I know the doose and donts, however, I still these few questions:
1) other than the obvious warranty loss, will Galaxy apps not run outside of Touchwiz?
2) do I need this knox feature? Can I get rid of it? I'm fine with stock authentication and encruptions services.
3) can a restore a samsung app on am android that is not running Touchwiz?
4) I can use the same chainfire su and busybox root apps on a rooted galaxy.
thanks!

1,2,3 are wrong, You can't do that. 4 is ok but at this stage there is not much to do due to the lack of development.

diehard2013 said:
hello fellow samsungers;
hope you are enjoying the festivus.
I recently purchased an S2 9.7. This thing is hot, but I digress.
I am coming from a rooted Nexus 7 running CM13.
I know the doose and donts, however, I still these few questions:
1) other than the obvious warranty loss, will Galaxy apps not run outside of Touchwiz?
2) do I need this knox feature? Can I get rid of it? I'm fine with stock authentication and encruptions services.
3) can a restore a samsung app on am android that is not running Touchwiz?
4) I can use the same chainfire su and busybox root apps on a rooted galaxy.
thanks!
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1. You can not use Samsung apps without Touchwiz.
2. If you are rooted you can and should freeze or delete all of the Knox apps.
3. See answer for #1
4. If you root using the methods on this S2 forum you will have Chainfire's SuperSU. Any root apps will work.

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[Q] T-Mobile Galaxy Tab - Few Questions

Hi guys, just this week I got a new Galaxy Tab from T-Mobile, so far so good, but I have a few questions about it.
1-) This is my first time using Android, is there a better version or ROM for this particular tab (or another that is fully compatible) which I should flash into it which is better or gives me more functionality than the default Android installation that T-Mobile puts on it?
2-) How are upgrades of Android OS obtained? I heard 3.0 is out, any ideas if Samsung or T-Mobile will make it available on these devices?
3-) Can "Line2" be used with it? I noticed when I'm connected to Wi-Fi at home Line2 works, but when I'm connected to 3G it wont work.
4-) Is it easy to install Themes on the Galaxy Tab, any tutorials?
5-) Any specific tricks/tweaks or apps, that are a must have for Galaxy Tab owners?
Thanks in advance!
-Eli
I also just got my SGT T-mobile. What is the model number of your tablet? What is the Baseband version of your tablet? Have you rooted yours?
Mine's model is SGH-T849, Baseband T849UVJJB, and yes, I downloaded a program from this board which supposedly roots it, after installing and running the commands it said it had successfully rooted my device, now how do I know if it is really rooted?
Also what's the Baseband? lol sorry but I'm lost, this is my first ever tablet and also first ever Android OS device.
RealAct said:
Mine's model is SGH-T849, Baseband T849UVJJB, and yes, I downloaded a program from this board which supposedly roots it, after installing and running the commands it said it had successfully rooted my device, now how do I know if it is really rooted?
Also what's the Baseband? lol sorry but I'm lost, this is my first ever tablet and also first ever Android OS device.
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We both have the same model and baseband. I'm not sure what baseband is. You can check to see if your tablet is rooted by going to Applications and look around to see if you can find a Superuser icon.
If it's rooted, I guess your next step is to find a custom ROM and flash it.
Do you remember what you used to root your tablet? Was it SuperOneClick?
Yes, it was the SuperOneClick one from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=812367
Baseband is the modem you have. The modem controls the phone, wirelass data, wifi, and bluetooth. Yours is JJB.
RealAct said:
Hi guys, just this week I got a new Galaxy Tab from T-Mobile, so far so good, but I have a few questions about it.
1-) This is my first time using Android, is there a better version or ROM for this particular tab (or another that is fully compatible) which I should flash into it which is better or gives me more functionality than the default Android installation that T-Mobile puts on it?
2-) How are upgrades of Android OS obtained? I heard 3.0 is out, any ideas if Samsung or T-Mobile will make it available on these devices?
3-) Can "Line2" be used with it? I noticed when I'm connected to Wi-Fi at home Line2 works, but when I'm connected to 3G it wont work.
4-) Is it easy to install Themes on the Galaxy Tab, any tutorials?
5-) Any specific tricks/tweaks or apps, that are a must have for Galaxy Tab owners?
Thanks in advance!
-Eli
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Well, I'm not an expert but here is my experience:
1. You should flash the new Overcome experience Hermes:
http://overcome.mimzo.com/
There is also the unofficial cyanogenmod beta, but as you said the overcome is fully compatible and it will not change the feel of the Tab, just adds to the functionality.
2. The updates are two types:
# Official, these are over the air and you will find notifications in the notification area to tell you that there is a new update, or may be through kies for Samsung.
# Unofficial, which is basically flashing other ROMs whether official or custom.
# As for Android 3.0 (which is called honeycomb), it is not officially coming to the Tab. May be after the 3.2 announced a couple of days ago, but I still don't think so. Still, you might want to follow this thread as there are trials to get it fully working on the Tab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122959
3. I don't have any idea about this, as I got mine used and then I rooted and flashed it the day I got it.
4. Of course there are themes for the Android. This Overcome I was telling you about has a Gold theme. There are a lot of ways to get themes on the Tab. I myself use different home launchers with different themes. You don't need to flash anything if you are just looking to change the looks of your device. Check this out and let me know if you like it:
Go Launcher EX https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex&feature=search_result
There are a lot other but this is my favorite. You can even change the fonts of the display.
5. The most common used tips and tweaks that you should use is over-clocking/ under-volting which gives you more speed and less battery drainage.
As for the apps, these are my favorites:
Tango, Photfunia, ezPDF reader, Movies (or IMDB), Springpad (or Catch), File Expert, Go Launcher, Go weather, Google Goggles, Google Shopper, Just reader, Splashtop, Plex, GrooveIP. I guess there are more on my device but these are the ones that I found more functional and fun to use.
Hope this helps...
Thanks rangercaptain,
Hey ahmadshawki, thanks so much, I will check out all of your suggestions, does overcome comes with Gingerbread?
Yes it does.
RealAct said:
does overcome comes with Gingerbread?
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Any 2.2 rom is froyo (frozen yogurt).
Any 2.3 rom is gingerbread.
You can have either "flavor". They are both in the development section. Both are highly recommended.
Hi guys,
I've been visiting this forum for more than 6 months now, but I think this is my first post. I have a T-Mobile SGH-T849 GT-P1000.
Last year I unlocked it and changed it to a Gingerbread Euro. Below is the current setup:
Firmware version 2.3.3
Baseband version P1000XXJPZ
Kernel version 2.6.35.7 [email protected] #2
Build number GINGERBREAD.XXJQ1
Tab has been working fine, with the exception of:
- often does not remember wi-fi hotspots automatically, need to switch off/on wi-fi to do this
- 3G & phone works erratically. I don't use it as a phone, but those times that I tried I noticed the phone would loose connectivity to the mobile network and needed a reboot in order to fix it.
I'd like to upgrade it to Ginger 2.3.6, but which rom should I use? I checked on the forum, but I'm not sure if I should use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380595&page=3
or any other.
Is my modem correct or should I use this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902323&page=4
to install JL5 modem?
Sorry for the noob questions.
I have a galaxy tab 7+ sgh-t869 I need to chance my build prop in order to play order and chaos online it doesn't support operating system I have no idea how to chance it or what to change it to please help thanks

[Q] Gingerbread 2.3.4 on SCH-I800 (Verizon)?

I did a search and was unable to find information on flashing stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 for the Verizon Galaxy Tab 7 (SCH-I800). Is this possible, and with root?
I would love to get a more stable build onto this machine. It crashes alot. also something more responsive would be great too Now that its out for the Sprint Vs. Does that mean its possible to get it on ours?
There hasn't been an official release of Gingerbread for the Samsung Galaxy Tab SCI-I800 (Verizon model). I'm getting very, very impatient and annoyed by it too, especially not that the Sprint model (VERY similar to ours) has already gotten that upgrade and we're still waiting without any details about when to expect it to come to us. VERY annoyed.
Flash the Sprint version that's rooted on here.
Hell, how can one root first?
I have tried NUMEROUS methods at rooting my Galaxy Tab, just to try and get the bloatware off of my device in hopes at making it work smoother, but that didn't work. Anyone, ANYONE, know a fool proof method at rooting the VZW Galaxy Tab 7? z4root, gingerbreak, etc, all didn't work. Ended up having to reset my device just to correct most major issues that the failed root attempts created.
etschuetz said:
I have tried NUMEROUS methods at rooting my Galaxy Tab, just to try and get the bloatware off of my device in hopes at making it work smoother, but that didn't work. Anyone, ANYONE, know a fool proof method at rooting the VZW Galaxy Tab 7? z4root, gingerbreak, etc, all didn't work. Ended up having to reset my device just to correct most major issues that the failed root attempts created.
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Just rerooted mine (my original z4root stopped working after the last update) and after combing through who knows how many posts and methods, I got it to work with version 1.7 of superoneclick. For some reason 1.9 would get stuck in the middle, but 1.7 had no problem. Good luck.
Can we really just flash the Sprint version? That won't break anything?
Thanks!
It will not connect to 3G but it works fine on wifi. I have been running it for 3 weeks.
Awesome... I don't use 3G anyhow. Thanks a bunch!
I got my tab finally rooted. Now need to have fun!
Sent from my SCH-I800 using XDA App
There's also a leaked VZW stock rooted 2.3.4 in the dev section...
That stock vzw rom... Is it stable?
Sent from my rooted SCH-I800 Galaxy Tab
Why would a stock rom not be stable? Besides the thread is several pages long with folks posting their experiences, me included.
It is very stable, with all the bloat and everything. Suggest BTL Confidence & Paranoia v01 if you dont want any of the bloat. Stable with some minor bugs.
yes the BTL confidence and paranoia is a great rom, I have the sch-i800 verizon model too.
looks like i missed the boat on that one.
etschuetz said:
I have tried NUMEROUS methods at rooting my Galaxy Tab, just to try and get the bloatware off of my device in hopes at making it work smoother, but that didn't work. Anyone, ANYONE, know a fool proof method at rooting the VZW Galaxy Tab 7? z4root, gingerbreak, etc, all didn't work. Ended up having to reset my device just to correct most major issues that the failed root attempts created.
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Use SuperOneClick.
Make sure you have USB debugging on.
Super no click for GB
Unfortunatly I have tried super 1 click 2.3.3 (with debug on and sd card out) and it dosen't work on the I800 2.3.5
I am going to try cubed 3.
all this just so i can use a six axis controller....
etschuetz said:
I got my tab finally rooted. Now need to have fun!
Sent from my SCH-I800 using XDA App
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HOW!!!!!!?????????

Custom ROM on Note 3? Who's using what?

Hi all,
I'm thinking about trying out some custom ROMs on my Note 3, but am not sure whether that will cause problems with the Gear.
Is anyone here using a custom ROM on their Note 3?
If so, which one?
Does it cause any issues with the Gear? e.g. some functions or apps not working
I have an N900, but interested to hear of issues on either platform.
Cheers,
Rich
richlum said:
Hi all,
I'm thinking about trying out some custom ROMs on my Note 3, but am not sure whether that will cause problems with the Gear.
Is anyone here using a custom ROM on their Note 3?
If so, which one?
Does it cause any issues with the Gear? e.g. some functions or apps not working
I have an N900, but interested to hear of issues on either platform.
Cheers,
Rich
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Use stock, not even rooted.
With Knox I do not know I even want to play with custom ROMs
AstroDigital said:
Use stock, not even rooted.
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Stock here also (not that I have much choice with the Verizon version) although I rooted it immediately so I could do unlimited tether etc.
With root, totally debloated and running Xposed with Wanam module I have basically all the advantages of a custom ROM/theme etc. and everything works perfectly.
DarthStalker V3, about to go to 4. No issues.
Jellybomb v2 beta 3. Works great
Sent from my SM-N900P using xda app-developers app
i'm working with stock Rom rooted and Gear rooted .
otherwise Galaxy Gear works fine with custom Rom ? (for example : Gear Manager : intelligent-relay and auto-lock?)
thanks...
Will odex/deodex make any difference to the Gear?
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda app-developers app

Pros/Cons of going from my old rooted NC2 to OC2?

I've been running a towelrooted NC2 note 3 for what seems like forever now. I'm currently seeing that OC2 has a stagefright patch and seems like a solid reason to finally update.
What would be your arguments for or against upgrading to OC2?
Right now my phone runs great and I've got it working to where I'm getting fantastic battery life. (GPS working, No wifi issues over AC, etc.)
1. Is safestrapping to OC2 standard procedure to keep root?
2. I've heard there are issues with Xposed? Can anyone confirm or offer some information regarding this?
The only root apps I use anymore are:
Titanium Backup Pro
Amplify
AdAway
YouTube AdAway
BootManager
Complete Action Plus
Xposed Additions
Xprivacy
I believe all but Titanium Backup Pro are based on Xposed Framework, so this is obviously a concern.
Your opinions are appreciated.
If you're looking to upgrade, might as well upgrade to a s6 (5.0.2) port in the dev section.
I have used all of the same apps/modules, minus xPrivacy, in the past on LP/KK. You can certainly install xposed on 5.0+, but there are several issues that arise with it. Mainly, the xposed framework itself requires a few workarounds/compromises with Samsung's ART, which impact performance/endurance.
With the s6 port, you get a basic privacy/permission app (think built-in App Ops), full theme support, ART, etc.. I've had no need for Amplify/Greenify/etc. since updating.
All in all, LP is quite a bit faster than KK, way more secure, & far more functional of a ROM, imo. Make a backup in TWRP, flash LP, and see which you like. :good:
EDIT: You'll be giving up xposed (most likely) by moving to LP. Which may be a good thing, in the long run.
Thanks for the input. I will give your s6 ROM a shot and see how I like it. I've read about, but not in detail, that xposed caused some security issues of its own before. I still wonder just how severe a threat those are in relation to others.
Are there debloat scripts available or needed for the s6 ROMs? I've always done them one by one myself, but I'd like to see if they might save me a lot of time.
(Arguments about hurting website revenue aside) is there a non xposed based ad blocking for 5.02? Personally, I just can't stand ads on my mobile device at all. I've never heard a lot about malicious ad code hitting android users much, but better safe than sorry.
What about firewall capabilities in 5?
Still it's too bad their isn't a ROM that would be a distribution focused on reliability and security.
PatrickF22 said:
(Arguments about hurting website revenue aside) is there a non xposed based ad blocking for 5.02? Personally, I just can't stand ads on my mobile device at all. I've never heard a lot about malicious ad code hitting android users much, but better safe than sorry.
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AdAway Version 3.1 https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway I just download and install the apk. It needs root permission to run.
PatrickF22 said:
I've been running a towelrooted NC2 note 3 for what seems like forever now. I'm currently seeing that OC2 has a stagefright patch and seems like a solid reason to finally update.
What would be your arguments for or against upgrading to OC2?
Right now my phone runs great and I've got it working to where I'm getting fantastic battery life. (GPS working, No wifi issues over AC, etc.)
1. Is safestrapping to OC2 standard procedure to keep root?
2. I've heard there are issues with Xposed? Can anyone confirm or offer some information regarding this?
The only root apps I use anymore are:
Titanium Backup Pro
Amplify
AdAway
YouTube AdAway
BootManager
Complete Action Plus
Xposed Additions
Xprivacy
I believe all but Titanium Backup Pro are based on Xposed Framework, so this is obviously a concern.
Your opinions are appreciated.
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Same boat, rooted stock nc2 with xposed and moto tether working just fine. Everything works, screen mirror, occasional GPS hiccup but not sure it's because of the magnetic mount. After two days and reading 100+ pages, I decided to stay on NC2. Too many FCs and fixes and patches.
Did you update? Is it stable? Does everything work? Tether, screen mirror, GPS?
COMPLETELY agree!!!
aquaholik said:
Same boat, rooted stock nc2 with xposed and moto tether working just fine. Everything works, screen mirror, occasional GPS hiccup but not sure it's because of the magnetic mount. After two days and reading 100+ pages, I decided to stay on NC2. Too many FCs and fixes and patches.
Did you update? Is it stable? Does everything work? Tether, screen mirror, GPS?
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I've gone back to OC2, numerous times...and go right back to NC2. Hiccups, lag, straight up freezing...and just an overall terrible experience versus JellyBean or KitKat. App history management is subpar, uses way too much memory...too much white which leads to more battery drain. OC2 is a fail, in my book. Just my two cents.
jreed3786 said:
I've gone back to OC2, numerous times...and go right back to NC2. Hiccups, lag, straight up freezing...and just an overall terrible experience versus JellyBean or KitKat. App history management is subpar, uses way too much memory...too much white which leads to more battery drain. OC2 is a fail, in my book. Just my two cents.
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Thanks for the feedback. Been switching between the S5 on 5.1 and the Note 3 on 4.4.2. S5 is surprising smooth on 5.1. Great battery life most of the time. Note 3 is stable except for the latest Google maps update which crashes occasionally.
PatrickF22 said:
I've been running a towelrooted NC2 note 3 for what seems like forever now. I'm currently seeing that OC2 has a stagefright patch and seems like a solid reason to finally update.
What would be your arguments for or against upgrading to OC2?
Right now my phone runs great and I've got it working to where I'm getting fantastic battery life. (GPS working, No wifi issues over AC, etc.)
1. Is safestrapping to OC2 standard procedure to keep root?
2. I've heard there are issues with Xposed? Can anyone confirm or offer some information regarding this?
The only root apps I use anymore are:
Titanium Backup Pro
Amplify
AdAway
YouTube AdAway
BootManager
Complete Action Plus
Xposed Additions
Xprivacy
I believe all but Titanium Backup Pro are based on Xposed Framework, so this is obviously a concern.
Your opinions are appreciated.
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As far as I understand OC2 ruins the ability to root or anything.. I upgraded to OC2 not knowing i can't do anything now.. can't root or anything all root ODIN's fail... Tried ODIN all in one NC2 now it's stuck on ATT logo never loads in so OC2 will ruin your day and I can't even use my phone right now.. I absolutely HATE SAMSUNG since I bought this Note 3.. I hate the stock OS.. I want cyanogenmod.. So I guess now I'll need to odin oc2 again and stick with it forever or until someone figures out how to root OC2... NC2 is a downgrade from OC2 .. so that's not possible to downgrade everything breaks with a downgrade.. I might need to do it all over again now of the CSC etc.. I did all in one to NC2
1chris89 said:
As far as I understand OC2 ruins the ability to root or anything.. I upgraded to OC2 not knowing i can't do anything now.. can't root or anything all root ODIN's fail... Tried ODIN all in one NC2 now it's stuck on ATT logo never loads in so OC2 will ruin your day and I can't even use my phone right now.. I absolutely HATE SAMSUNG since I bought this Note 3.. I hate the stock OS.. I want cyanogenmod.. So I guess now I'll need to odin oc2 again and stick with it forever or until someone figures out how to root OC2... NC2 is a downgrade from OC2 .. so that's not possible to downgrade everything breaks with a downgrade.. I might need to do it all over again now of the CSC etc.. I did all in one to NC2
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There's a rooted OC2 Stock ROM available here though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3185574
Sent from my H1511 using Tapatalk
spookykidmm said:
There's a rooted OC2 Stock ROM available here though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3185574
Sent from my H1511 using Tapatalk
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Thanks, I'd actually prefer to stick with NC2 but I'm having a hard time finding Kat Xtreme v2.3 as the links are dead... It's an amazing 533MB rom .zip which is perfect but I just can't find it anywhere..
http://www.dynamicrom.com/
http://www.dynamicrom.com/index.php/downloads/category/9-dkxtreme
09/11/2014 Dynamic Kat Xtreme 2.3 : http://www.dynamicrom.com/index.php/downloads/send/9-dkxtreme/26-dynamic-kat-xtreme

Your Advice about custom rom

I have verizon s6 edge stock 5.1.1
( G925VVRU4BOG7 )
I couldn't root it even by ping-pong root or even downgrade ,,, Now I wanna flash a custom rom which alredy rooted?
Which is (the best) custom rom should I flash,,, I realy need the root .
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
dr0mar said:
I have verizon s6 edge stock 5.1.1
( G925VVRU4BOG7 )
I couldn't root it even by ping-pong root or even downgrade ,,, Now I wanna flash a custom rom which alredy rooted?
Which is (the best) custom rom should I flash,,, I realy need the root .
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
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Root is required in order to install a custom ROM.
OMG ..I cant root my stock or downgrade or even flash a custom rom ...
What can I do ... any idea guys!
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Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
dr0mar said:
OMG ..I cant root my stock or downgrade or even flash a custom rom ...
What can I do ... any idea guys!
[emoji24][emoji30][emoji31][emoji24]
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
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There is more to life than custom ROM's.
That said, many of the apps that require root have alternatives for people without root.
For example, Adaway requires root, while AdBlockPlus works without root.
They perform the same functionality, just with different permissions.
The only reason I am not yet ready to give up root is Viper4Android is the best app for tweaking audio,
and without root it is impossible to remove crapware
Snowby123 said:
There is more to life than custom ROM's.
That said, many of the apps that require root have alternatives for people without root.
For example, Adaway requires root, while AdBlockPlus works without root.
They perform the same functionality, just with different permissions.
The only reason I am not yet ready to give up root is Viper4Android is the best app for tweaking audio,
and without root it is impossible to remove crapware
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There is another reason for actually. .. it is adding arabic language to the system and the only way is by using root permissions
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
You can flash a ROM without root. You just need a PC and software that bypasses the locked bootloader so you can flash the custom ROM onto your device. I recommend the SP Flash Tool for Windows if you don't want to root your phone and still run a custom ROM.
dr0mar said:
There is another reason for actually. .. it is adding arabic language to the system and the only way is by using root permissions
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
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SAD. like I said earlier, it is still impossible to install a custom ROM without root.
If you really need root, you could try looking on Swappa for one that either has root or has an early enough build date to obtain root.
I have the same Build: G925VVRU4BOG7 and have been looking for root options for months now. I just received access to Samsung Pay which I'm pretty excited to check out (and I heard can be lost if you trip KNOX), but I still would like root as this is the only phone I've owned which can't be rooted.
Additionally, I JUST received a software update notification... I'm user what to do. If I update, maybe someone will figure out a way to root the new version. However, if I do update and then someone finds a root method for G925VVRU4BOG7, I will probably shoot myself in the kneecap lol.
Does anyone have any suggestions for accepting the software update? Thank you!
the818studios said:
I have the same Build: G925VVRU4BOG7 and have been looking for root options for months now. I just received access to Samsung Pay which I'm pretty excited to check out (and I heard can be lost if you trip KNOX), but I still would like root as this is the only phone I've owned which can't be rooted.
Additionally, I JUST received a software update notification... I'm user what to do. If I update, maybe someone will figure out a way to root the new version. However, if I do update and then someone finds a root method for G925VVRU4BOG7, I will probably shoot myself in the kneecap lol.
Does anyone have any suggestions for accepting the software update? Thank you!
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if I were in your shoes I would take the update. there is no clue when or even if root will ever be achieved on 5.1 for the Verizon variants

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