Weird problem w/ group text messaging - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Happy holidays everyone.
a few days ago I received a group text message on a few days back with about 14 people in the group. (merry christmas everyone!) I wanted to reply back but the send button never gets highlighted to be able to send.
a few hours later i received another group text message with a bunch of different recipients (there were some same recipients too). I was able to reply back to this one with no issue.
What is going on here? Is there some setting i'm not looking at?
running stock DOK2 firmware. Just received this phone less than a week ago and barely have any apps loaded on it.

There is a limit for group messaging on the stock messaging app (10 people). If you want to test it out, try to create a group text with 10 or less and the send icon will be available, when you go above 10 it will not.

legendindisguise said:
There is a limit for group messaging on the stock messaging app (10 people). If you want to test it out, try to create a group text with 10 or less and the send icon will be available, when you go above 10 it will not.
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I had no idea. It was so frustrating. What is their reasoning for this? Is that even documented anywhere? what's the workaround?

dtrinh4000 said:
I had no idea. It was so frustrating. What is their reasoning for this? Is that even documented anywhere? what's the workaround?
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Not sure what the reasoning is, but I just recall that the limit has always been 10 for group messaging within the default app (Android devices).
I use Textra right now as it works well for texting over Wifi. But most 3rd party texting apps don't have the 10 person limit.

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devastating text message issue

So I receive a text, click on the notification and read the message, then I type a response and press send, now the fun part- it sends to someone else. Not every time but enough to make me not use the app. Phone is stock, using stock messaging app. This isn't going to cut it. Anyone?
Having 2 contacts with the same name, but different phones?
Having 2 different contacts with several phones, one of them being the same?
Look for those, I believe that it's the root cause of your problem.
I unfortunately wasn't able to verify that. I'm going to reset the phone and see what happens....
This is actually why I stopped using handcent sms, I think it has to do with the way the Android OS reads the contacts.
This is a common issue many people have. But its with the stock messaging app. Handcent fixes this issue, or at least it does not happen with handcent. Google never did figure out this bug.
RogerPodacter said:
This is a common issue many people have. But its with the stock messaging app. Handcent fixes this issue, or at least it does not happen with handcent. Google never did figure out this bug.
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Thanks I guess that settles it. Good to know Google is working on making the OS prettier instead of making its most basic functions work. I understand android has a list a mile long of issues they need to address but this has to be pretty damn close to the top 5 no?
It has to be disorganized contacts on your end. Duplicate phone numbers, etc. I've never heard of this problem.
Of course I could be full of sh¡#.
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Do you have friends with nicknames and friends that use their full name?
Sorry, here's an example: Elizabeth and Liz, or Eddie and Edward. I've noticed that the contacts i have with names like those get combined automatically for some reason and when you try to text one it goes to the wrong person
Now I've rooted, running frg 33 and its still happening. But now I have one conversation in my list, I send a text to that person via the conversation, then I get a "?" In reply from a random contact who has received the text as well as the intended recipient. These contacts have the same area code but completely different names, no nicknames. Is it possible this is a phone issue? I absolutely want to stay with android and ill gladly get a different android phone when I can...but if this is just how google rolls then I have an awful decision to make. Also, I searched and it apparently happens on 3rd party SMS apps. I wonder if it could even be a carrier issue....I don't know the intricacies of texts but this is my 3rd android phone and the first that sends texts to whomever it wants...there a lot of small bugs with android, but this is far and away the most disappointing. Anyone had any luck with this? Maybe there are settings in the **464646** or whatever it is, that could help?

Windows Phone 8 OS - Is there native support for group texts (iMessage)?

Does windows phone OS support group texting? Mostly concerned with iPhone users sending a group text to me and I want to reply all back and keep a single thread of chat/text going between the other users.
Currently the best option on Android is using GOsmspro or handcent and enabling group MMS threading. Problem is this is TERRIBLY slow even on my S3 because it has to convert each message to MMS and send and upon receiving a reply back from any party member it is received as MMS and then converted and then placed into the group thread. Extremely laggy if multiple texts are sent at in a short amount of time. Just wondering how Windows Phone 7 or 8 might handle this. It's making me really consider going back to iPhone since I like to keep tabs on my bro n sis via this group texting.
I am using groupme at the moment but it's a third party system and only supports sms if using the sms push, or else MMS via 3rd party app, which requires each sender to have the app and use this separate app to communicate.
Yes, Windows Phone 7 already supports this. It works via MMS on all platforms, but that's transparent when it's built in. The WP7 implementation is pretty good; I can't imagine they'd drop it in WP8.
bkaul said:
Yes, Windows Phone 7 already supports this. It works via MMS on all platforms, but that's transparent when it's built in. The WP7 implementation is pretty good; I can't imagine they'd drop it in WP8.
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Thank you. Is it pretty seemless? As in sending and receiving is pretty smooth as if sending an sms to a single user? I assume that's what you mean as in it's transparent. If so, this is great news.
Most of my family have iPhone and use group message. Was using gosms but it slow like the OP said. I use wp7 for 2 weeks and their group message is fast. I return wp7 and will wait for wp8.
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By transparent, I mean you don't really notice the difference between SMS and MMS when there's no image attached, since in Windows Phone the UI is identical - they're both messages in the same messaging app. But any "group text" is a MMS rather than an SMS, as far as how it's sent on the back end. It is very seamless - Microsoft's Messaging app handles both types of messages very well.
You'll see a message to/from some number of recipients with the individual recipients listed as screen space allows (you can tap to pop up the full list if it runs off the edge of the screen), and on each incoming message, the sender is listed near the timestamp so you can tell who sent it. Everything in that conversation, from any of the recipients, shows up in the same conversation thread no matter how many people you're texting. When you create a new text, you can add multiple recipients just like you would for an e-mail, etc.
bkaul said:
By transparent, I mean you don't really notice the difference between SMS and MMS when there's no image attached, since in Windows Phone the UI is identical - they're both messages in the same messaging app. But any "group text" is a MMS rather than an SMS, as far as how it's sent on the back end. It is very seamless - Microsoft's Messaging app handles both types of messages very well.
You'll see a message to/from some number of recipients with the individual recipients listed as screen space allows (you can tap to pop up the full list if it runs off the edge of the screen), and on each incoming message, the sender is listed near the timestamp so you can tell who sent it. Everything in that conversation, from any of the recipients, shows up in the same conversation thread no matter how many people you're texting. When you create a new text, you can add multiple recipients just like you would for an e-mail, etc.
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I've been having trouble getting this to work. The group text I was a part of on my iPhone isn't coming through on my Lumia 920 at all. iMessage is stuck authorizing my phone number, so that may be a part of it, but as of yet I haven't found out what the issue is. Anyone else having this issue?
Apple has never been big on interoperability, but you can easily do group texts natively without worrying about iMessage.
Kindrex said:
I've been having trouble getting this to work. The group text I was a part of on my iPhone isn't coming through on my Lumia 920 at all. iMessage is stuck authorizing my phone number, so that may be a part of it, but as of yet I haven't found out what the issue is. Anyone else having this issue?
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You will have to turn off iMessage on your iPhone. You probably don't have your iPhone anymore, but what needs to happen is to unlink your phone number from iMessage. Did you do that? If not I think you can unregister your phone here:
http://holgr.com/blog/2011/12/howto-deactivating-imessage-on-lost-or-sold-iphones/
Also turn on group chat in your messaging settings. I saw this while messing with a WP8 in store.

MMS Issues: Phone or AT&T?

I've been having a lot of problems with MMS since picking up the Active and switching to AT&T.
I usually use Handcent, but right now it's pretty worthless when it comes to group messages or receiving a picture. in both the stock messaging app and Handcent settings I have it set to group messages, and to automatically download. when I receive an MMS, though, I still have to click on download (and they won't download at all in Handcent even after clicking).
say I receive a group text from someone and 3 other people respond. both apps now display 4 different entries, one for each person. if I open each individual's thread and click download (again just in the stock app) the messages will be removed from that individual's thread and then be added to a group thread.
this is pretty frustrating, and I really want it solved. is this an AT&T issue (I was on VZW riding the Droid train before) or something with the phone?
a little update on this:
sending of MMS is also way less than ideal, either not sending at all, or taking a really really long time. I tried to send a picture earlier and it took 40 minutes before it finally went through. my searching of the interwebs leads me to believe it's perhaps an APN issue? it would be strange if the default settings out of the box prevent it from working, though. anyone else have an issue with this?
MMS is horrible for me on Handcent, too. I have to open the stock Messaging app just to download an MMS and sometimes that doesn't work, either. I also tried AT&T Messages, but it won't ever even setup correctly.
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[Q] Missing messages in group messages?

So I just got my Moto X and its pretty awesome. My previous phone was an iPhone 3GS and I really liked iMessage but I figured that now since Android supports group sms I would take the plunge. However, after doing my first group message today I was only able to see 1 of my contact's text messages while everyone elses messages just never reached me (I guess in text message limbo).
All of the people I messaged were iPhone users (5 and 5s). Is this just a blip or just a common problem that I will have to deal with for the next 2 yrs (which I dont really want to deal with, all of my friends are iPhone users)? Could it possibly be a ATT problem, I tried texting my phone from one of my friends and immediately it went to iMessage instead of SMS but it eventually changed to text and I got it.
so I asked motorola about this issue. They said group messaging is no longer supported (wth) and I should download a 3rd party app.
conquerstrife said:
so I asked motorola about this issue. They said group messaging is no longer supported (wth) and I should download a 3rd party app.
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If you like the stock app check out 8sms. Works very well and supports group messaging.
I have found that group messaging on android is pretty lack luster. I've installed Google hangouts as my default sms app and just deal with the issues. Hopefully, it will get better over time. They have a ton of issues to work through though. Good luck.
I do group messaging all the time in the hangouts app. Works no problem for me at all. I do them as "group MMS" messages. Try switching your SMS app to hangouts and see if it's any better.
Oh and before you switched from the iPhone did you unregister your phone number with iMessage? If not, that might be why they're not coming through. The apple database thinks you're still on iMessage and they're getting lost in limbo. See this:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2013/11/28/switching-from-iphone-to-android-switch-off-imessage/

[Q] Group Text: Reply texts coming back as individual texts

Group Text: Reply texts coming back as individual texts
I'm getting the reply texts individually instead of within the group text that I started. Is this normal?
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xjedi said:
Group Text: Reply texts coming back as individual texts
I'm getting the reply texts individually instead of within the group text that I started. Is this normal?
T-Mobile; Nexus 6; Sinless rom 5.0
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My Android devices have done this for several years.
cam30era said:
My Android devices have done this for several years.
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Thanks for the reply. When I had the HTC One M8 I think it worked where the reply texts were within the same group thread. I know iphones work the same way too - within the same group thread.
I've tried googling and searching on XDA and can't find a setting to have it work that way. Maybe I'll go back to stock and see if it works - as soon as I got the N6 I had rooted/rom it.
xjedi said:
Thanks for the reply. When I had the HTC One M8 I think it worked where the reply texts were within the same group thread. I know iphones work the same way too - within the same group thread.
I've tried googling and searching on XDA and can't find a setting to have it work that way. Maybe I'll go back to stock and see if it works - as soon as I got the N6 I had rooted/rom it.
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It will be no different on stock.
Evolution_Freak said:
It will be no different on stock.
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So that's normal behavior for group text? Oh well. It's still a great phone.
xjedi said:
So that's normal behavior for group text? Oh well. It's still a great phone.
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Well, it seems to be somewhat normal. I sent my first group text yesterday and the first couple responses seemed to be in group form but then the replies came individually. It may be related to how the recipient responds. If they respond directly to the group text or if they create a new message in response. So I guess I'm not 100% sure on this then lol. You should ask your recipients how they responded.
Evolution_Freak said:
Well, it seems to be somewhat normal. I sent my first group text yesterday and the first couple responses seemed to be in group form but then the replies came individually. It may be related to how the recipient responds. If they respond directly to the group text or if they create a new message in response. So I guess I'm not 100% sure on this then lol. You should ask your recipients how they responded.
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Just tested it on my work phone. It is because of the setting on my work phone! I didn't have the MMS Group setting checked. Now my N6 is receiving the group thread as expected. You'd think that that would be on by default though. Now I've got to tell my friends on Android to make sure that's checked on. Thanks!

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