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I m making this post because I am curious as to what everyone thinks in here .
so what is your opinion witch one runs smooter on your phone and what advantages you see in abuild vs the other .
P.S. I will state my opinion once a few have answered so that my opinion doesnt give a direction to the thread /
Matter of opinion but generally speaking i9000's roms tend to be have more features since source and leaks come out first. I personally prefer native i897 roms because of audience chip support and they just run better imo.
^ what he said.
Bln, customized kernel splashes, working nandroid, hsupa, and ext4 (which is not even needed just thought I'd mention it) for I9000. But they all run with their little quirks ;/
I897 has much better battery life for me and runs smoother IMO, don't really give a crap about the audience chip, never talk on the phone.
Also another trade off is upload speeds.
well here is my take on this .
i897 pros :
Native f/w : i897 users can benefit of there provider's feature (mainly referred to as bloatware)
Audience chip support
Placebo effect : ?the illusion that running a native rom for our phone changes something?
i897 cons :
obsolete updates (note that lately Samsung has leaked many f/w and seems the Captivate is catching up to the i9000 ) but if you are running a native i897/i896 based rom chances are your a few month back in development
3G vs H no brainer here . I dotn use data myslef but its a Deal breaker for many .
Sources for Gingerbread still not released for our device , there is only few that can be done on the kernel side witch is one of the most if not THE most important thing on our phone .
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i9000 pros
H vs 3G . I dotn use data myslef but its a Deal breaker for many .
Kernel Source
f/w updates are more often and more recent in other words :
more support from samsung
more language / csc choices
more developers = more development
i9000 cons
they use to be many .. but truth is there is only one reason and that is the audience chip support ...
IT all comes down to this : Audience chip support with either obsolete f/w or basically stock kernel vs Data speed latest f/w more support from devs and Samsung .
these device are the same minus front facing video camera , FM antenna and h/w buttons
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Since I owned my i896 I have run all the stock f/w possible on my phone :
i896 i897 i9088 Vibrant based rom ( Axura ) and i9000
About Battery Drain :
the most performance I have ever run on my phone was the set up that drained my battery the most .. makes sense right ? tweaking your phone for smoothness at a level where it doesnt eat your battery can be tricky some apps may drain your battery one day and not the other day (example apps didnt close and kept draining silently) .
Ill tell you all a secret about cooking a rom , other then the kernel theres nothing that can be done to make battery life better , a rom chef can do things that will make battery drain worst (for example installing unstable apps or doing other stuff wrong ). but in the end the choice of kernel / modem combo, your display settings (#1 battery drain on ALL of our Samoled phone) and of course OC/UV settings, these are the only things that impact your phone 's battery life , for the rest , everytime you flash a new rom if somethign is wrong , reflash wipe your battery stats and let your phoen settle ( few charges and discharges ) .
Please dotn take my point of view personal about battery drain , everyone is entitled to there opinion on the matter , some ppl prefer stock odex roms with rooted stock kernel , I prefer to have my phone tweaked / themed customized Overclock and drain the battery like mad on it some ppl dont , these ppl should stay away form custom rom ESPECIALLY those developped on CLOSED SOURCE KERNEL as 99% of there battery tweaks are placebo .
hereI said it
I9000 is what I prefer, runs faster and has more features but uses more battery. As far as audience chip I only notice a difference if there is alot of background notice, like my window being down in the car. I897 roms are sluggish for me.
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I can say that Native I897 GB rom (2.3.3,2.3.4,2.35) have an incredible battery life. I have gotten up to 48 hours with any recharge. If you look at Fasty III, it now has added Ext 4 and Voodoo video to it along with init.d, that allows for major tweaks.
PS I have gotten up to 2526 quadrant score with Tegrak on Fasty III KI2
Hear hear!
I agree completely. As one who flashes a different ROM every other day, I can tell that most of them are just skinned and themed versions of the same thing. Some devs have better skills and can tweak configs to make android run better for some, but there are so many users with differing essential necessities that it is hard to optimize the system for all users. For me personally, I use the actual phone app maybe an hour a week, so the lack of the audience chip support isn't a dealbreaker for me, but for some it is essential. And I have tried every GPS tweak and hack and config with no success, but I don't rely on my GPS on my phone (not since that trip to NYC... *shudder*). OF course if that function is essential for you, you have the wrong phone.
I was just thinking that it would be great if someone created a ROM that featured system and apps optimized for a density of 200, but it would essentially be running the same base as all the other ROMs.
The best ROM I have used battery-wise is Andromeda 2.2. Great battery life and stability, but unfortunately is several revisions out of date. The smoothest performance I have had is also the one that murdered my battery, CM7.
I would rather see a couple base ROMs that devs would then offer themes, tweaks, and patches for so that we could pick and choose what is needed for them. My 2 cents
Great idea opening this thread DAGr8 !! Lots of newbies will have a general idea on how things are in the cappy land ,on that note this should be stickied.
As for me I'm more a i9k guy, mainly due to the better kernel support. Like to tweek myself so battery is secondary as I took for granted charging to phone daily ever since the smart phone era impacted my life.
The only reason for me to switch is the audience chip. Unfortunately I had cpl of, well not so happy responses from the other end of the line regarding call quality, but when in a peaceful nature the quality is good.
Like the way how the cappys kernel support is shaping up, but still there's allways that lack of source that holds the guys back. Would like to thank all you devs for making our cappys be what it is today, imo a captivated sensation
You left out an option Dag, what about AOSP? I would have never tried to flash MIUI/CM7 before it became a simple flash with CWM, but since it is that easy now I have flashed MIUI and I love it. I've tried going back to Samsung roms, but end up back here after a few days.
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You left out an option Dag, what about AOSP? I would have never tried to flash MIUI/CM7 before it became a simple flash with CWM, but since it is that easy now I have flashed MIUI and I love it. I've tried going back to Samsung roms, but end up back here after a few days.
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Great point CM is not true aosp but close enough at least , reason why they are not added in this thread is because I am not a fan , of the way it runs on our device (great job by the devs) but seem like the i9000 family were never made to run true AOSP , CM built on true aosp phone like nexus tho thats somethign else I am definitely an admirer . if ppl are willing to share there experience with CM I will add 'the option' in the op 's title eventho im afraid this coudl become a war between TW fanboys (ilke myself ) and CM fanboy ..
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Great point CM is not true aosp but close enough at least , reason why they are not added in this thread is because I am not a fan , of the way it runs on our device (great job by the devs) but seem like the i9000 family were never made to run true AOSP , CM built on true aosp phone like nexus tho thats somethign else I am definitely an admirer . if ppl are willing to share there experience with CM I will add 'the option' in the op 's title eventho im afraid this coudl become a war between TW fanboys (ilke myself ) and CM fanboy ..
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Understandable. Just didn't want the aosp'ish followers without even a nod.
By now everyone should know my alliance is with the I9000 stock ROM. At&t meddled with the I897 too much.
At times I am torn betwixt the two...but for now, with all the i897 leaked firmware that has been of late, and that along with all the great Dev work on this side of the house, I choose the i897.
For me, it just works. The leaks, since KF1, have had excellent battery life. The noise cancellation is a great plus. The capped upload speeds a minus I know, but worth the trade. The firmware bugs have been getting resolved. Themes, mods, extras, etc. are really good. And the phone running on the i897 gingerbread firmware is fast, responsive, and a pleasure to use.
Anywho...my 2 cents. Thanks again to all devs.
I ultimately had to ditch my i9000 rom for two reasons. First, I just couldn't find a modem that was good for both voice and data. It was either-or. Second, bluetooth is unusable with i9000. I have a car with bluetooth connectivity for calling and I like to use it, so that was a deal breaker for me.
I will stay on i9000 rom for now.
But i897 rom/kernel can provide sharpness fix, voodoo sound, lagfix, I will turn to i897 rom.
I have try i897 GB rom before, i897 GB rom have excellent battery life and noise cancellation. But I can't accept samsung stock rom horrible sharpness quality.......
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I m making this post because I am curious as to what everyone thinks in here .
so what is your opinion witch one runs smooter on your phone and what advantages you see in abuild vs the other .
P.S. I will state my opinion once a few have answered so that my opinion doesnt give a direction to the thread /
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i prefer to the I897 ROM ，when the GB source published，we will get more more developers and it will more eazy to mod our Rom
@DAGr8, can we flash any i9000 rom that hasn't been ported to the Captivate as long as we are using a reoriented i9000 kernel like Talon?
Or are there specific things done to Captivate ports that are essential for it to run correctly?
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@DAGr8, can we flash any i9000 rom that hasn't been ported to the Captivate as long as we are using a reoriented i9000 kernel like Talon?
Or are there specific things done to Captivate ports that are essential for it to run correctly?
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Not much needs to be done... I will make a script for you guys very soon that will allow you to do just that..
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DAGr8 said:
Not much needs to be done... I will make a script for you guys very soon that will allow you to do just that..
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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thank you!
Currently have a Xperia SP, but need a little extra money in my wallet and just to add another reason, in all honestly there isn't enough ROM support for me personally, and i'm not one to wait
Thinking about getting this OR the HTC Sensation...
Seen the great ROM support for this phone, so would like to know a few questions if you wouldn't mind taking the time to help me
What is the camera quality like? (xperia SP is awful in this department)
Is it a "fast" phone? any really noticeable lag?
if the phone is locked to a network can you still unlock the bootloader? (Xperia's tend to not let you if you are locked to a network 99% of time)
and would you choose this over the sensation? I mainly play a few games, browse internet and text..... OH and install ROMS.
Thank you
I can not compare models and I might have other needs than you (I am not a gamer). But considered the age of this phone, an used one can not be expensive, and there are some great fast and stable ROMs out there and there is ongoing development.
Furthermore, it is impossible to brick: you can change bootloader (it can not be locked), ROM and kernel as much as you like and there are excellent tools for doing so. Try to look at my post here.
You have to understand, it is not a state of the art phone, and in order to use all features (BT and HDMI-output), you will probably have to run a ROM based on an older CM version. Please note that CM has not released stable versions since CM7.2, and will not, but some have managed to modify CM10-CM10.2 to run on p990.
I am very happy with the phone and like to follow development on this forum!
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Currently have a Xperia SP, but need a little extra money in my wallet and just to add another reason, in all honestly there isn't enough ROM support for me personally, and i'm not one to wait
Thinking about getting this OR the HTC Sensation...
Seen the great ROM support for this phone, so would like to know a few questions if you wouldn't mind taking the time to help me
What is the camera quality like? (xperia SP is awful in this department)
Is it a "fast" phone? any really noticeable lag?
if the phone is locked to a network can you still unlock the bootloader? (Xperia's tend to not let you if you are locked to a network 99% of time)
and would you choose this over the sensation? I mainly play a few games, browse internet and text..... OH and install ROMS.
Thank you
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Here are my 2 cents. The main problem that plagues this otherwise quite likeable device is the RAM, or lack thereof. CPU as well as GPU are quite powerful despite being almost 3 years old.
Though one thing that goes in its favour, as you rightly mentioned, is the support of awesome developers. Guys like pengus77, tonyp, jishnu, sreeprajay, spyrosk & all the usual suspects have done such a awesome job of the utilizing every single ounce of its potential to the fullest.
It's usually fast as long as you manage your resources well. Don't allow too many services chewing precious RAM in the background. Using apps like "Greenify" comes quite handy to achieve the same.
Still, not a bad device to tinker around as long as one doesn't set his expectations a bit too high. Personally, I would suggest you to choose Sensation over this primarily for more available RAM. Having said that, Sensation has its own fair share of issues too like the infamous "death grip".
Basically choose your poison
Sorry to interrupt, but i'm in the same situation. Just changed my phone, and i like this one a lot more than a newer Samsung.
I'm looking for a rom, anything above CM7.2, preferrable 10.x at least with HDMI, BT and WiFi hotspot working.
I have flashed about 5 roms on the above CM10.x and everyone is missing a different thing, be it camera, BT or WiFi hotspot, even battery eating issues. (why no one makes a full one?)
And all lack HDMI.
I would use even a rom based on ICS if it has everything on it's place.
Altough, i really liked the new lock screen on CM10.2 meanwhile overclocking and Kowalsky opened a few doors.
Does anyone know of any mostly stable rom closest to this?
Which would be the newest ROM of any flavor with everything working and no battery issues?
I tried quite a few ROMs & here's my set-up. The best so far I could find in terms of performance, stability & battery life was pengus77's "Unofficial CM 10 ROM" coupled with his own Kowalski M1 Stable Kernel.
Though being primarily a CM10 based ROM which is a derivative of 4.1.2, it will not have lock screen widgets if that's the thing you really care about. As far as camera is concerned, I use jishnu sur's camera mod.
Thanks for your answer and my apologies for the thread opener for the kidnap.
I dont care much for the lockscreen widgets. Is just something that could be helpful.
I'm having real trouble with battery life when 3g enabled, overnight my battery drop about 1%, today i enabled 3g and tt went down by almost 30% in only 2 hours. Quite dissapointing issue.
By any chance do you know where could i find more info. about HDMI not working issue? I can't believe that no one ported the driver or worked it out since it appeared.
Frankly, I have neither tested HDMI out function nor it has any real world use in my case. My best guess is it'll work with Stock based Custom ROMs & stock ROM itself of course. You may test it out with Pengus77's ROM if it works.
why don't you want to downgrade to another better phone, for example to Xperia M it's really cheaper and much better than Optimus 2x.
Rom Port Team Effort
Hello P880 community.
This post has the purpose to put together a group of users / developers, who are willing to participate into bringing a different set of roms into our community.
These set of roms that I'm thinking, can range from complete Sense ports to more customized and maybe less popular roms (like ColorOS, LiGux, FlymeOS, FluidUI, etc..).
What's valid on this thread:
- CM / AOSP (any base we already have) themed (like Samsung TouchUI, Optimus, Blur, etc..). So you can grab any rom (with author authorization), theme it (i mean, not just shove an apk as default theme, I mean neat theming ).
- Ports from other devices (evert port needs to have clear authors permission to port it).
- All users are very welcome, everyone can participate, users with porting / developing skills are needed as well.
The idea is simple, we're not going to use this thread to post the work, this is just a thread to talk about possible projects.
We can start by listing which devices are hardware compatible and the port is "easily" possible.
Roms that can be used as a base for eventual future ports.
CM10.2 - thanks to laufersteppenwolf for compiling this build promptly for this purpose
http://goo.im/devs/laufersteppenwolf/CM10.2//cm-10.2-20140305-UNOFFICIAL-p880.zip
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I strongly recommend the use of MultiRom for testing ports and other roms. That way you can maintain your working rom and whenver feeling adventurous you can without going through the hassle of backup / restore / yada yada yada that we are all too familiar with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655988
- - List of Devices with hardware similar / close / identical to the 4X - -
- HTC One X
- HTC One X +
- More ??
- Possible roms to port:
Right now would be nice to see a OEM rom, such a touchwiz or Sense
Work in Progress
N/A available
(awaiting sugestions
So, what do you guys think? ? Any users with good porting skills ? I know we have good developers! Ideas? Sugestions?
Write away
A few guides from XDA - They may not be all you need to get the job done, but a LOT of important information is written here. Don't forget to thanks their authors
Guides / Tutorials
How to Port Roms by @saywhatt
How to Port Manufacturer Rom. by @GalaxyUser
How to port Stock/GB/CM7/CM9/ICS/CM10/JB Based ROMs by @Peteragent5
PS - Every work that is possible to port and if someone decides to invest time in it, it needs explicit authors permission.
Sure if a few people want a particular rom i can bring it to our device, but i would much prefer helping first time rom builders do this own their own then they can maintain it also
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Sure if a few people want a particular rom i can bring it to our device, but i would much prefer helping first time rom builders do this own their own then they can maintain it also
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Well, I though about some sort of "voting" to bring a "specific" rom.
Personally, I'd love to have Sense on our device. I had two HTC's before and I miss that Sense interface :b
But far as I'm aware, isn't an easy thing to port.
About your offer, this thread stands mostly with learning. The idea is everyone being able to contribute and more users start bringing roms as their first times. So, thank you so much for lending your help and know how, I'm sure we'll have a fine list of possible ports and then we can talk about how to port them over
Everyone can ask for help and the idea is to everyone who is able to - help.
I like the idea of this thread, but what would also be quite usefull is a list of available ROMs and their maintainer(s).
Also the list should include ROMs someone is working on ATM, so it cannot happpen that 2 devs are working on the same ROM
However, your idea is good, but porting a ROM not from sorce is quite hard, and might need some smali "hacking" in order to resolve bugs.
But well, we're a community, and I guess we can help each other if needed, right
laufersteppenwolf said:
I like the idea of this thread, but what would also be quite usefull is a list of available ROMs and their maintainer(s).
Also the list should include ROMs someone is working on ATM, so it cannot happpen that 2 devs are working on the same ROM
However, your idea is good, but porting a ROM not from sorce is quite hard, and might need some smali "hacking" in order to resolve bugs.
But well, we're a community, and I guess we can help each other if needed, right
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That's correct! :good:
The main point is to learn helping each other who knows in a month or so, today's whiners are tomorrow's contributors
Jokes aside, the first post will be edited in order to structure and add information.
I'm gonna start with compatible devices (the ones that allow porting in a easy way). Ideas? Besides the HTC One X ? I'm guessing the grouper (N7 2012) besides having the same soc, doesn't have the same screen...
PS - (this would be better with an experienced porter) - Maybe we could start with a easy one, and go on from there
I know we have "how to port" threads all around xda ,but each port is different so we can't use "one hat to fit them all" ... or a ring to rule them all, so we should treat each port differently.
However.. I'm gonna put some xda links about porting to bring some light into the matter for who is "new" on this subject... or for whom's feeling adventurous and can't wait to have "their" rom on "our" device
Oh yes finally, have been waiting for a thread like this for a long time me as well would love to see a sense rom on this phone
cm/aosp roms are not that hard to port most of the time u only need the same screen resolution for it to work. (ported a nexus s touchwiz rom over to my old lg optimus 2x) but would have loved to see some oem roms ported over as well, even though it would be a lot harder to port over. but as a wonderful community as this is we might be able to pull it off
MidnightDevil said:
That's correct! :good:
The main point is to learn helping each other who knows in a month or so, today's whiners are tomorrow's contributors
Jokes aside, the first post will be edited in order to structure and add information.
I'm gonna start with compatible devices (the ones that allow porting in a easy way). Ideas? Besides the HTC One X ? I'm guessing the grouper (N7 2012) besides having the same soc, doesn't have the same screen...
PS - (this would be better with an experienced porter) - Maybe we could start with a easy one, and go on from there
I know we have "how to port" threads all around xda ,but each port is different so we can't use "one hat to fit them all" ... or a ring to rule them all, so we should treat each port differently.
However.. I'm gonna put some xda links about porting to bring some light into the matter for who is "new" on this subject... or for whom's feeling adventurous and can't wait to have "their" rom on "our" device
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You can add the HOX+ to the list as well
About porting, you need to seperate it in two halfs, porting from source, and "winzipping". TBH, I'm no fas of winzipping at all, but some stuff (like sense or TW) can only be winzipped...
BTW, if you need a 2nd/3rd post, just let me know
Personally, I'd like to see a GFlex or even better, a G2 (/mini) ROM for our phone (KitKat, of course )
This thread has potential
I'm new to this forum,so i dont know whats going on about roms,i see there are few devs working full time.
I think this is the best way to go: Port ALL open source roms,such as we have already,but we need them all.
Second,make a badass kernel,with all features and customizations,possibly 3.4.
Third,and just a suggestion,Make a community ROM?
I really like this thread,and i even more like this OX4 community,you all get along,and i've missed that,i was on a forum that has no frendly people whatsoever.
And,about the roms,the idea is awesome,but i always think of the clash of clans rule,max everything out before going on a higher level.
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Regarding stock roms, it's an interesting thing, but I'm guessing stock roms are more trouble to port comparing to AOSP or CM.
I remember on the HTC Sensation forums the headaches sense brought to many developers and porters, the bunch of files that needed to be edited, kernel changes (aosp kernel is different from stock / sense kernel in that case).. so Stock roms are maybe harder to port fully.
Right now we have some apks from the G2 (lock screen, messaging, etc..), maybe someone will port some things from the Flex, but the whole base.. hum
@DeHuMaNiZeD , thanks for your reply
The other roms based of AOSP and CM, in my opinion, unless they're different (modded, themed, customized - etc..) but if not, if they are "clean" roms with no changes, then - we have them already I believe you'll agree. (Unless the idea is to test something).
A 3.4 kernel would be something, but perhaps a developer can shed some light here - what benefits would we have from a 3.4 kernel ?
A community rom is indeed long due. This thread is a different subject because it's about *several* roms, ports and tutorials, maybe you would like to create a thread here on General about that? You can start with votes (i believe it's a proper way to do it) with which base should we use (Cm, AOSP, Stock, etc..), included apps (or not), possibly aroma maybe and so on
DeHuMaNiZeD said:
This thread has potential
I'm new to this forum,so i dont know whats going on about roms,i see there are few devs working full time.
I think this is the best way to go: Port ALL open source roms,such as we have already,but we need them all.
Second,make a badass kernel,with all features and customizations,possibly 3.4.
Third,and just a suggestion,Make a community ROM?
I really like this thread,and i even more like this OX4 community,you all get along,and i've missed that,i was on a forum that has no frendly people whatsoever.
And,about the roms,the idea is awesome,but i always think of the clash of clans rule,max everything out before going on a higher level.
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Well, this sounds quite good, but the real problem is: this is a hell lot of work. Also, it needs resources. The sourcecode of a ROM is ~25-30GB. When it's compiled it's about double the size, and takes my PC (8 cores @ 4GHz) about 75Min to compile. Not to mention the time 'til the sources are Downloaded. My 500GB HDD is near to its limit very soon, so sooner or later I will need a new HDD, then I might be able to get another ROM ported, but right now, hard...
Also, why do you need a 3.4 kernel?
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Regarding stock roms, it's an interesting thing, but I'm guessing stock roms are more trouble to port comparing to AOSP or CM.
I remember on the HTC Sensation forums the headaches sense brought to many developers and porters, the bunch of files that needed to be edited, kernel changes (aosp kernel is different from stock / sense kernel in that case).. so Stock roms are maybe harder to port fully.
Right now we have some apks from the G2 (lock screen, messaging, etc..), maybe someone will port some things from the Flex, but the whole base.. hum
@DeHuMaNiZeD , thanks for your reply
The other roms based of AOSP and CM, in my opinion, unless they're different (modded, themed, customized - etc..) but if not, if they are "clean" roms with no changes, then - we have them already I believe you'll agree. (Unless the idea is to test something).
A 3.4 kernel would be something, but perhaps a developer can shed some light here - what benefits would we have from a 3.4 kernel ?
A community rom is indeed long due. This thread is a different subject because it's about *several* roms, ports and tutorials, maybe you would like to create a thread here on General about that? You can start with votes (i believe it's a proper way to do it) with which base should we use (Cm, AOSP, Stock, etc..), included apps (or not), possibly aroma maybe and so on
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For stock ROMs to work, it's your best bet to use AOSP as your base, and then look for what's missing/broken. This, however, means you need an AOSP base first to work with. And AOSP is not always the easiest thing to get properly running.
About the benefits of an 3.4 kernel: None IMO. All you get is a higher version-number, and that's it. We actually already have some 3.4 features backported, and also tweaked the 3.1 kernel quite a lot. So the actual benefits are all in your head (well, except you count bugs as benefits )
Community ROM? Meh, what for? We have so many ROMs already, so everyone should find the one that suits him/her best
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laufersteppenwolf said:
Well, this sounds quite good, but the real problem is: this is a hell lot of work. Also, it needs resources. The sourcecode of a ROM is ~25-30GB. When it's compiled it's about double the size, and takes my PC (8 cores @ 4GHz) about 75Min to compile. Not to mention the time 'til the sources are Downloaded. My 500GB HDD is near to its limit very soon, so sooner or later I will need a new HDD, then I might be able to get another ROM ported, but right now, hard...
Also, why do you need a 3.4 kernel?
For stock ROMs to work, it's your best bet to use AOSP as your base, and then look for what's missing/broken. This, however, means you need an AOSP base first to work with. And AOSP is not always the easiest thing to get properly running.
About the benefits of an 3.4 kernel: None IMO. All you get is a higher version-number, and that's it. We actually already have some 3.4 features backported, and also tweaked the 3.1 kernel quite a lot. So the actual benefits are all in your head (well, except you count bugs as benefits )
Community ROM? Meh, what for? We have so many ROMs already, so everyone should find the one that suits him/her best
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Why dont you set up that build server,i think they're cheap atm,or someone could borrow you? It would take a lot less time and effort. that's why i think offical rom support is important,once it's merged to the build bot,its their responsibility.
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DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Why dont you set up that build server,i think they're cheap atm,or someone could borrow you? It would take a lot less time and effort. that's why i think offical rom support is important,once it's merged to the build bot,its their responsibility.
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It's not as easy as you might think
I do have access to a buildserver, however I only have 100GB as it's a shared one, so this is genious for official builds, or quick tests/ports. But it isn't ideal for the long terms.
Also, having it official doesn't mean you're done you need to update it, and also fix it when it's broken. 'cause when it's broken, it can mess up the whole build process of the buildbot
But in general, you're right, having it official does help a lot
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Does anyone of you have a link to the latest CM10.2 (Android 4.3) for our device?
It seems like it's not anymore on get.cm and I wanted to start porting a TouchWiz (Note 3) ROM to our phone when I have free time
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I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly.
@laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
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I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly.
@laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
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LOL, no, I do not, but gimme a few hours and I'll have one
Syncing right now
laufersteppenwolf said:
LOL, no, I do not, but gimme a few hours and I'll have one
Syncing right now
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Thank you
{fd}ware said:
BTW, did anyone tried to port a ROM this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245786
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Nope, I actually never "winzipped" a ROM
Lot of things to comment on here. Very good initiative I have to admit. I'm sure I'll have more ideas as the discussion evolves.
Similar hardware: You can add HOX+ as laufer said. Very minor differences are there only.
What I would personally prefer is TouchWiz, at least Nature UX 2.0, but new S5 UI is also really awesome. I liked Sense till 4.5, but 5.0+ versions are now out of my 'inner circles'. Especially what I don't like is the UI.
Few suggestions:
FlymeOS (from Meizu MX) - I got 2.0 booting last summer, but had touchkey issues (they were freezing the device lol) and never released it. Nobody ever booted 2.0+ on other Android devices yet.
Porting LG roms might be the best start, I think porting full Optimus G system wouldn't be that hard. Just a pain in the *ss merging process.
What we mainly need is same screen size (unless you wanna resizing 100+ apps ). Similar SoC is a good extra, but that's very limited. Also, it's better to avoid Qualcomm SoCs to port from, it's extremely hard, there are a lot of code changes in low-level code which just make the device get into deep segfault cycles. :cyclops: Even Exynos is easier to port from, trust me. I got SGS3 leaked 4.2 booting on the O4X last autumn.
Big issue we have to note: In 4.2, Google radically changed graphics libraries code. We have old, 4.1.2 blobs and those need hacks in libgui.so and libsurfaceflinger.so to function properly (in 4.4+ libEGL.so, libGLES_v1_CM.so and libGLES_v2.so also need a change). Here comes the problem: Manufacturers do change these libraries, mainly adding Wi-Fi display and HDMI support code which other blobs rely on. Of course we can't just replace these libs, graphics wouldn't function that way. Either we have to guess those function signatures and reimplement some stub in the code, or use new blobs, i.e. what I did in Omni. But y'all now those are not perfect _yet_.
Regarding newer kernels: If, I emphasize, IF it's properly ported, it would cause a noticeable effect on overall performance, battery life, etc. What do I mean by proper porting: All machine-specific code must be updated to Nvidia/Google upstream, no excuses! I don't say anything for sure, I didn't check it much, but kholk didn't do this merge. His kernel still uses 3.1 files with slight modifications to be 3.4-compatible. What I mean would be a very long and painful process, but would surely benefit after all. 3.4 has no Android branch, mainline Nvidia Tegra kernel does only have Linux support, it might be even harder. 3.10 is maintained by Google for Android, issues I have found so far: No graphics driver support for T2 and T3, have to forward-port it and I didn't find core Android components like wakelocks, earlysuspend, etc. Weird.
A little related story: I initially started working on MultiROM so I can test and port different roms while I can keep a stable rom for myself and there'd be no need for reflash then. That's what I can suggest. Use MultiROM, it has so many capabilities! Maybe it's better with kernel sharing so you don't have to wait for hardboot on every reboot (which one needs a lot if porting). @MidnightDevil you could add this to the OP maybe.
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I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly.
@laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
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Here you are! Compiled this because wanted to start porting from Note 2, but finally worked on Omni more and abandoned it.
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BTW, did anyone tried to port a ROM this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245786
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That's way too generic unfortunately.
Quick suggestion for you port: Use Note 2 base with Note 3 features. Note 2 has the same resolution and you won't need to resize.
Adam77Root said:
Lot of things to comment on here. Very good initiative I have to admit. I'm sure I'll have more ideas as the discussion evolves.
Similar hardware: You can add HOX+ as laufer said. Very minor differences are there only.
What I would personally prefer is TouchWiz, at least Nature UX 2.0, but new S5 UI is also really awesome. I liked Sense till 4.5, but 5.0+ versions are now out of my 'inner circles'. Especially what I don't like is the UI.
Few suggestions:
FlymeOS (from Meizu MX) - I got 2.0 booting last summer, but had touchkey issues (they were freezing the device lol) and never released it. Nobody ever booted 2.0+ on other Android devices yet.
Porting LG roms might be the best start, I think porting full Optimus G system wouldn't be that hard. Just a pain in the *ss merging process.
What we mainly need is same screen size (unless you wanna resizing 100+ apps ). Similar SoC is a good extra, but that's very limited. Also, it's better to avoid Qualcomm SoCs to port from, it's extremely hard, there are a lot of code changes in low-level code which just make the device get into deep segfault cycles. :cyclops: Even Exynos is easier to port from, trust me. I got SGS3 leaked 4.2 booting on the O4X last autumn.
Big issue we have to note: In 4.2, Google radically changed graphics libraries code. We have old, 4.1.2 blobs and those need hacks in libgui.so and libsurfaceflinger.so to function properly (in 4.4+ libEGL.so, libGLES_v1_CM.so and libGLES_v2.so also need a change). Here comes the problem: Manufacturers do change these libraries, mainly adding Wi-Fi display and HDMI support code which other blobs rely on. Of course we can't just replace these libs, graphics wouldn't function that way. Either we have to guess those function signatures and reimplement some stub in the code, or use new blobs, i.e. what I did in Omni. But y'all now those are not perfect _yet_.
Regarding newer kernels: If, I emphasize, IF it's properly ported, it would cause a noticeable effect on overall performance, battery life, etc. What do I mean by proper porting: All machine-specific code must be updated to Nvidia/Google upstream, no excuses! I don't say anything for sure, I didn't check it much, but kholk didn't do this merge. His kernel still uses 3.1 files with slight modifications to be 3.4-compatible. What I mean would be a very long and painful process, but would surely benefit after all. 3.4 has no Android branch, mainline Nvidia Tegra kernel does only have Linux support, it might be even harder. 3.10 is maintained by Google for Android, issues I have found so far: No graphics driver support for T2 and T3, have to forward-port it and I didn't find core Android components like wakelocks, earlysuspend, etc. Weird.
A little related story: I initially started working on MultiROM so I can test and port different roms while I can keep a stable rom for myself and there'd be no need for reflash then. That's what I can suggest. Use MultiROM, it has so many capabilities! Maybe it's better with kernel sharing so you don't have to wait for hardboot on every reboot (which one needs a lot if porting). @MidnightDevil you could add this to the OP maybe.
Here you are! Compiled this because wanted to start porting from Note 2, but finally worked on Omni more and abandoned it.
That's way too generic unfortunately.
Quick suggestion for you port: Use Note 2 base with Note 3 features. Note 2 has the same resolution and you won't need to resize.
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Dang, you've beaten me but mine's as fresh as it could be
HERE you guys go, for all who need the newest CM10.2
laufersteppenwolf said:
Dang, you've beaten me but mine's as fresh as it could be
HERE you guys go, for all who need the newest CM10.2
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Just don't delete the sources, you might need them in the close future.
I think we should create a schedule about what to do. As you all know, good buildings all have good grounding. So let's get started from the very beginning I say. First fix remaining bugs in MultiROM, then create a unified kernel so users don't have to choose. Very likely this is not possible as people think different so just make all kernels hardboot compatible. After these we have a solid base for starting all the work. Of course this cannot be done if not everybody is involved. Both devs and users should share a part in this magnificent journey.
(High expectations, I know. )
Sent from my OmniROM-powered LG Optimus 4X HD
Since official update missing from too long time in latest months I have searching for alternative ROM or MOD since I cannot spend a lot of money for a new smartphone again after only a couple of years and with stock ROM Optimus for some reason is more laggy than smartphone far less powerful.
Unfortunately in all I have found some issue and problems, so now I'm wondering what are the ROM\MODS more used by the P880 community on XDA..
Eventually a list of not-working things (eg missing radio, broken GPS, unusable MHL HDMI out etc.) would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Everything working with BlissPop 3.2.
I am using CM 11 nightlies and I am waiting for its final release !
after more than 1 year of flashing many ROMs, I think I've found my best tradeoff with this: omni-4.4.4-20150520-p880-FINAL
No bugs for my use and excellent smothness.
The only drawback is the long time required to turn mobile data ON.
To keep the thread alive..
My experience after 2 years using this phone and custom roms:
- phone is s**t (but I do not intend to buy a new one, so here goes..)
- Used some recommended roms laying around, but here are some roms I tested and used for longer period.
- I use phone for everyday use. I want lagfree, fast and good battery life (at least in deep sleep). I mostly use some simple apps, browsing, messages, pdf books, camera and video recording.
1. CM11 (4.2.2.)
Great rom, with some bugs, but nothing serious.
Occasional lags, good battery life - some builds were awsome (less than 0,3%/hour batt consumption).
Maybe little too slow occasionally.
2.CM11 (4.4.4)
Also great rom, with some nice features, much more polished than 4.2.2. At start there were great builds, but after some time it got worse. Probably kernel related.
Quite good speed, some lags, quite good batt (but not so good as 4.2.2).
If you did not restart phone in a while, it got very laggy - at least second period of rom development.
3.MAHDI FINAL
Best rom - is`s features are endless. Great for customising everything, quite good speed, but laggy from time to time - when you most need it! Battery similar to CM11 4.4.4, but better with speed. Quite good, but too much lag for me.
3.MOURTA LS+KERNEL
Best rom I used becouse of smoothness, features and customization of whole rom. Really smooth.
BUT it has a bug with gapps - if you do not google enable update service(s) - it does not go to deep sleep.
And MAJOR DOWNSIDE - worst batt life of all the roms I used. Tried everything, but batt life did not get any better. Especially when you use the phone - batt drains as hell.
So I got a felling that all this speed and other goodies comes with bad batt.
I can do this on my own, with any rom, by putting governor to performance
Too bad for this rom... Goodbye!
4.OMNI 4.4.4. final
So I tried this recommended rom - after reading some forum posts.
It is not so great with features (some of them I miss), but it is almost lagfree, quite fast, good batt life..
Maybe only rom I used, that is stable and fast enough for everyday use..
I miss some functions and LS speed , but for now - I am satisfied.
For the end
- I did not tried any custom kernels, at least for longer period. Had a felling they all got too bad batt life for my taste.
- tried also scripts and tweaks 2.2, but I did not notice any big improvment over my demands (stable, fast, batt).
And it would be great if we all together find the best rom for everyday use ?!
And maybe upload the zips to some cloud, for later generations to use ?
I personally would like to get CM11 4.2.2 builds.
And CM11 unofficial builds to try.
That would be great, if whole LG 4x community could create final ROM for our phone - with everything done, and working as it shoud be.
Personally I use Resurrection Remix 5.4.5 ROM. Pretty good performance and battery life after some tweaks (Power Nap, disabling some wakelocks etc.). But it wasn't updated since May 2015 Sometimes it's going crazy: interface, and system crashes, but that's ocassionally (every day ? - f%#&#).
This phone is S%$t, and sometimes I want to throw it through the window... But i'm poor xD
Blisspop 3.4
CM 11 3.14 Nightly
Some times I get no signal and the phone wont wake up from deep sleep but most of the time it's not bad at all.
Yeah bros, i totally understand you all...Every ROM i used (some for short, other for long periods of time) eventually turned to be ****. I of course dont blame not one dev, as their doing their best to keep alive a crappy smartphone. Right now i use for some time the CM 12.1 i think, as it was the most (at least) usable ROM, whitout huge bugs and a whole lot of lag. There were a lot of times i wanted to burn this useless piece of **** and throw it out the window...But finally the time has come. I ordered a LG G4! Comming next week. I will miss you all out there, as we shared strugle... :crying::crying::highfive:
I want an update to this survey. Still I haven't found a ROM where everything works. In some ROM doesn't work correctly the GPS, in other ROMS I aren't able to scan QR codes. other ROMS have TV out broken, fm radio broken or videocamera not fully functional or with worsened quality... other ROMS are laggy or with freezes.
This is a 1,5 Ghz quad core with 1GB ram, is an outdated device but still far more powerful than many entry levels in the marked that are released with recent Android OS version and are way faster despite their hardware.
What are the most newer ROM fully working for daily use?
MoltenMotherBoard Lollipop 5.1.1
The only not-working stuffs, that I know of, are QR code scanning and FM radio. QR code scanning can never be fixed for grouper blobs based ROMs. FM radio is never a critical feature. Most custom ROMs choose to ignore this for most Android phones, not just LG O4X.
If you ever build the ROM from source, then you will appreciate this Lollipop ROM that it is preserving most of the pristine Google AOSP experience as much as possible.
Unfortunately for me that my taste of Android OS has been less than desirable until Lollipop. It is my personal choice that I won't look back on anything lesser than Lollipop on my Android phone. This is also one of the reason I am staying away even from LG stock JB ROM. If we take away issues with OS aging, then we hope to be able to declare that stock ROM should be perfect. But I can tell you that for LG O4X, LG had failed this.
In short, I just want to tell you that it is very rare to find custom ROMs matching the functionalities of stock ROM perfectly. If you had to take the route of custom ROMs, then you need to choose base on features that matter most for your usage.
Is there any rom with sustained performance and stagefright fixes (maybe f2fs for perfomance)?
I don't really care if its 4.3, 4.4 or 5.1
As long as it has halfway decent battery life (I know the tegra3 is power hungry) and it doesn't have seconds of lag in whatsapp like the stock rom, I am happy.
I am like you, tried many Rom's untill today. I think our P880 is same but there is something different, I know devices have same parts but somehow different.
I mean some Rom works for me very well but same rom for another friend dosn't work as it's supposed to be.
Lately I am using Euphoria for daily driver. I like LP features. Jb or Kit Kat doesn't satisfied me. And I decide to buy new phone because like I said before P880 's hardware doesn't enough anymore. I think I will buy Z5.
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I am like you, tried many Rom's untill today. I think our P880 is same but there is something different, I know devices have same parts but somehow different.
I mean some Rom works for me very well but same rom for another friend dosn't work as it's supposed to be.
Lately I am using Euphoria for daily driver. I like LP features. Jb or Kit Kat doesn't satisfied me. And I decide to buy new phone because like I said before P880 's hardware doesn't enough anymore. I think I will buy Z5.
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Yes, I do agree with u on the fact that our devices are somewhat different from one another and we are having somewhat difficult time in coping with the new OS provided that our hardware are a bit outdated. However, I think this phone is really endurable and I am very satisfied with this, I have been using this phone for almost three years and it still function as it is so I have to say I am impressed. Currently I am trying out cm11 and mahdi 4.4., I have to say cm11 is rock stable but I would say mahdi has a lot of customizable features that I like. So it is quite difficult to choose among them. But for LP rom, I think it requires way too much resources that our phone might not be able to cope with.
Beanstalk 4.4.x
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Is there any rom with sustained performance and stagefright fixes (maybe f2fs for perfomance)?
I don't really care if its 4.3, 4.4 or 5.1
As long as it has halfway decent battery life (I know the tegra3 is power hungry) and it doesn't have seconds of lag in whatsapp like the stock rom, I am happy.
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May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
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May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
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I am running Mahdi at the moment.
Works, responsiveness is fine. But sometimes PlayServices go bezerk and cause wakelocks, until the battery dies.
And Whatsapp sometimes get's messed up when the screen rotates.
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May I suggest beanstalk. Good battery, lots of optional features like halo etc (only thing that doesnt work is the screen recorder). If there was a lollipop version, then I would run it in heartbeat :good:
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I have heard many good things about beanstalk but never had the chance to experience that as most of the links in the post are dead.... Is there anywhere that we can find to try out that rom?
I am currently using ICS Stock 4.0.3
Also tried custom roms like Cm11 and Cm12.1
For me Stock (ICS) is good as it provide me best battery life for charging,usage,camera,wifi etc
Just waiting for Cm13
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I have heard many good things about beanstalk but never had the chance to experience that as most of the links in the post are dead.... Is there anywhere that we can find to try out that rom?
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Unfortuantly that is the only source i know of for beanstalk.
the 26/12/2013 link works, and most of the ones at the bottom too (remember though to right click on the big blue "download now" and choose "open link in new tab" to start the download on Dev-Host
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I am running Mahdi at the moment.
Works, responsiveness is fine. But sometimes PlayServices go bezerk and cause wakelocks, until the battery dies.
And Whatsapp sometimes get's messed up when the screen rotates.
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Try to use privacy guard to block the wake-up and keep awake of the google play service, then the drain should be gone.
Dear Folks,
I'm considering to buy a I9305. Actually I wonder how well the general custom ROM support is? I currently own a Samsung Galaxy S5 (I900f) which I don't like. The phone itself is awesome but the problem is that Samsung didn't provide (any?) documentations about the phone. Therefor the only good working ROMs are the TouchWiz ones - there're a few nice ones out there, but anyway, since Samsung doesn't seem to bring Android 6 (M) to the phone it's gonna be dead soon.
People told me that it's a completely different Situation for the Samsung Galaxy S3: You've got a good custom ROM support and a lot of them work with every funtion the phone provide with almost no bugs - is it the same for the S3 LTE? Do the ROMs work well? Are there good ones (Cyanogenmod and SlimRom are my favorites)? Is it likely to have a good custom rom support with Android 6 as well?
Thank you so far!
cRaZy
Hey,
the easiest way to see is to check the ROM section.
It differs between the i9300 and i9305. There is more development going on for the international S3 than the LTE version. But thanks to rodman providing most lollipop ROMs for the i9305.
What's good and what's not is a matter of taste and need. But I recommend slim, resurrection remix and cyanide - the latter two are based on cm with lots of features cm is missing.
About custom ROMs and android 6 - we don't know yet if we get any ROMs. It all depends on the devs.
All right, thank you a lot! By good I mean ROMs which only have a few bugs (if any). GPS should be working as well as no extensive battery drain. I'm quite satisfied with very simple ROMs as long as they're smooth and have (almost) no bugs. That's what I'm talking about. The situation with the S5 e.g. is very bad if you want a non-TW-ROM.
GPS is working on all, battery depends on usage of course but with most ROMs you'll get through a day.
Camera is kind of a known issue. Sometimes it loses connection but I never faced such problems. Mhl is not working due to missing sources. Everything else is working with common CM bugs on cm based ROMs.
All righty mighty. That sounds kinda okay for a daily driver. The thing is I'd like to use the phone as a daily driver. If e.g. Slim Rom 5.1.1. is working nicely I've got no problem using it for another two years. I guess most Apps will be working with Lollipop in the near future.
Last but not least, 2400 Mhz is not covered which might gimme some LTE issues in germany, right?
Yeah most ROMs are totally fine for being a daily driver.
I'm not sure about LTE and its frequencies. I'm using Vodafone and have no issues.