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[Q] Lollipop 5.0.2 update root access?

I have a rooted XT1068 and there is an official OTA update to 5.0.2, should I install it? Do I lose my root access?

egwktm said:
I have a rooted XT1068 and there is an official OTA update to 5.0.2, should I install it? Do I lose my root access?
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You have to "Full unroot" in SuperSU settings and restore the stock recovery. Otherwise OTA will fail. After the OTA is installed, You can easily return to TWRP and flash SuperSU.

okay thanks! also instead of twrp could I use chainfire again?

Unfortunately, i tried to install OTA and now every time i turn on my phone it reboots and tries to install 5.02 only to get an error and it stays at twrp menu. So what can i do now?

lol after many reboots phone decided to tell me that update was unsuccessful so it works again.

more details pls for a beginner
I made the same mistake trying to flash OTA 5.02 over rooted device 4.4.4 . I got out of the loop by moving the download zip from system/cache to external sd...
just wanting to make sure I do all the right things and in order:
so in Super SU I go the FULL UNROOT
how do I then restore stock recovery?
Once I I have restored it what are the steps for the zip and install via stock recovery?
sorry about the boring questions - it's still a bit of a jungle for a beginner

egwktm said:
okay thanks! also instead of twrp could I use chainfire again?
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Sure. But why? Twrp is superior in every aspect. It's like deliberately crippling your toaster so that only one slice fits.

Will I be able to install ota updates with stock recovery and after unroot if I do changes to /system?

dpdp73 said:
Will I be able to install ota updates with stock recovery and after unroot if I do changes to /system?
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No

doppelhelix said:
Sure. But why? Twrp is superior in every aspect. It's like deliberately crippling your toaster so that only one slice fits.
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Nice imagination.
But why do I often read that TWRP will be overwritten by Lollipop with custom recovery when rebooting the phone? Some people therefore recommend the Chainfire CF-Auto-Root instead.
So after unlocking bootloader can I flash TWRP in fastboot mode and superSU afterwards without those kind of problems?

Wolfcity said:
Nice imagination.
But why do I often read that TWRP will be overwritten by Lollipop with custom recovery when rebooting the phone?
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It's a "feature" introduced by google for their nexus. I will quote the twrp website:
The stock ROM will automatically replace TWRP with the stock recovery. To prevent the stock ROM from replacing TWRP, boot TWRP, go to the mount menu and mount system, press the home button, then press Advanced ->File Manager. Browse to /system and select the file named recovery-from-boot.p then choose to rename the file to recovery-from-boot.bak
Or you flash the SuperSU.zip. That will prevent the override too.

doppelhelix said:
It's a "feature" introduced by google for their nexus. I will quote the twrp website:
The stock ROM will automatically replace TWRP with the stock recovery. To prevent the stock ROM from replacing TWRP, boot TWRP, go to the mount menu and mount system, press the home button, then press Advanced ->File Manager. Browse to /system and select the file named recovery-from-boot.p then choose to rename the file to recovery-from-boot.bak
Or you flash the SuperSU.zip. That will prevent the override too.
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Thx a lot for your explantion.
This was one of the things that irritated me right from the start when I was checking out the possibilities of custom recovery/root within 5.0.
I heard about the file-renaming thing but didn´t realize that superSu will do the job too and that it is a Nexus "feature" at all.
Helped me very much!

[Q] OTA Updates on Rooted XT1095 (Stock Recovery)

I recently followed this guide to root my XT1095. All I did was unlock my bootloader and boot the image...I did not (intentionally) alter my recovery, nor did I install a custom ROM. Will I still receive OTA update notifications and, if so, are they safe to apply?

Dan Again said:
I recently followed this guide to root my XT1095. All I did was unlock my bootloader and boot the image...I did not (intentionally) alter my recovery, nor did I install a custom ROM. Will I still receive OTA update notifications and, if so, are they safe to apply?
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If you are running a custom recovery TWRP for example, I doubt that you will get OTA updates. I believe you need the stock recovery to be able to install OTA updates.

grneyez said:
If you are running a custom recovery TWRP for example, I doubt that you will get OTA updates. I believe you need the stock recovery to be able to install OTA updates.
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I'm a little confused by your response. As I said in my original question, I did not (intentionally) alter my recovery. Did the method that I used achieve root alter my recovery for me?

If you did not install a custom recovery than you should be able to get OTA updates. Check to see what recovery you have.

Dan Again said:
I'm a little confused by your response. As I said in my original question, I did not (intentionally) alter my recovery. Did the method that I used achieve root alter my recovery for me?
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As long as you don't make any changes to /system, you *should* be good to go for updates. If you didn't intentionally flash a custom recovery then you still have the stock one.

If you're rooted OTAs won't work. In KitKat and lower they just performed checksums on each file before updating, so the altered root files were left untouched and the update installed. In Lollipop and up (at least for Nexus devices), it does a total checksum and if /system has been altered in any way (including for root) OTA's won't install.

grneyez said:
If you did not install a custom recovery than you should be able to get OTA updates. Check to see what recovery you have.
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Thanks for all the responses, guys. I booted into recovery and saw this, so I think my recovery is still stock. One quick question: when I boot into fastboot and select "Recovery", I get a dead Android and a "No Command" prompt - I had to follow these steps to actually get there. Why is that?
I'd like to try out Xposed now that it's available for my device, and I see that requires a custom recovery. If I install a custom recovery (TWRP, for instance) and use it to flash Xposed, can I then revert back to stock recovery and continue to receive OTA updates?

Dan Again said:
Thanks for all the responses, guys. I booted into recovery and saw this, so I think my recovery is still stock. One quick question: when I boot into fastboot and select "Recovery", I get a dead Android and a "No Command" prompt - I had to follow these steps to actually get there. Why is that?
I'd like to try out Xposed now that it's available for my device, and I see that requires a custom recovery. If I install a custom recovery (TWRP, for instance) and use it to flash Xposed, can I then revert back to stock recovery and continue to receive OTA updates?
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If you modified your system with Xposed you won't be able to install OTA updates. Even if you return yo stock recovery.
To install an OTA you need three things. 1. Unaltered system, 2.no root and 3. stock recovery

juliospinoza said:
If you modified your system with Xposed you won't be able to install OTA updates. Even if you return yo stock recovery.
To install an OTA you need three things. 1. Unaltered system, 2.no root and 3. stock recovery
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Fair enough. So let's say that I install a custom recovery and then Xposed. Will there be a way that I can manually upgrade to new stock OS versions as they come out for my phone?

Dan Again said:
Fair enough. So let's say that I install a custom recovery and then Xposed. Will there be a way that I can manually upgrade to new stock OS versions as they come out for my phone?
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You can always flash a ROM or custom ROM via fast boot, but you will loss all your settings, apps etc because you are flashing an entire new system... The OTA only patches

The only way back is to flash your stock ROM if you can get a hold of it.

floepie said:
The only way back is to flash your stock ROM if you can get a hold of it.
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So, funny story - this weekend I accidentally wiped my OS and had to flash stock ROM to get back up and running. See: here. Good resource for others who might be looking for Moto X 2014 stock Lollipop firmware...definitely saved that on my computer

juliospinoza said:
If you modified your system with Xposed you won't be able to install OTA updates. Even if you return yo stock recovery.
To install an OTA you need three things. 1. Unaltered system, 2.no root and 3. stock recovery
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Isn't there any way to uninstall Xposed, revert back to original recovery and remove root--all in order to install OTA without completely loosing user data and apps installed?

yurkennis said:
Isn't there any way to uninstall Xposed, revert back to original recovery and remove root--all in order to install OTA without completely loosing user data and apps installed?
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yes
just flash via fastboot
1. recovery (stock)
2. system
if your phone is 5.0 xt1095 and you didn't flash modems you should be able to receive OTA.

Repeat of Question
I'm not sure I completely understand what I need to do to get updated to 5.1. I have an XT1095 that I only rooted, no custom recovery. I downloaded the OTA for 5.1 last night and tried to update. Got an error and it did not update. A quick google search seems to state, as well as earlier in this thread, that I can not update if I am rooted. I would prefer not completely start over on my phone (wipe) and would like to just apply the update. Can I just "unroot" my phone and apply the update or do I have to go back to the beginning (with a stock recovery) before the update will take?
I know enough about all this to have followed the directions to accomplish the root about 7 months ago. Since then not played with any system files! The only reason I rooted was so I could use the full capabilities of Greenify. Any opinions on that would be appreciated as well. Thanks!

jhworth8 said:
I'm not sure I completely understand what I need to do to get updated to 5.1. I have an XT1095 that I only rooted, no custom recovery. I downloaded the OTA for 5.1 last night and tried to update. Got an error and it did not update. A quick google search seems to state, as well as earlier in this thread, that I can not update if I am rooted. I would prefer not completely start over on my phone (wipe) and would like to just apply the update. Can I just "unroot" my phone and apply the update or do I have to go back to the beginning (with a stock recovery) before the update will take?
I know enough about all this to have followed the directions to accomplish the root about 7 months ago. Since then not played with any system files! The only reason I rooted was so I could use the full capabilities of Greenify. Any opinions on that would be appreciated as well. Thanks!
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Try reading, the post literally before yours tells you what to do, lol.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

AGISCI said:
Try reading, the post literally before yours tells you what to do, lol.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
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I take it that flashing the recovery and the system.img files to the phone will not erase all the apps, photos, music, etc.?

summit15 said:
I take it that flashing the recovery and the system.img files to the phone will not erase all the apps, photos, music, etc.?
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Correct, it won't erase those things.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

so if i am just rooted, and custom recovery, could I unroot (via supersu app) and flash stock recovery and be good to go? or am i missing something?

yamahakid said:
so if i am just rooted, and custom recovery, could I unroot (via supersu app) and flash stock recovery and be good to go? or am i missing something?
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It's more difficult with Lollipop: updates now "look for" a completely stock unmodified unrooted system. So you'll have to flash a stock image of the current build and then take the OTA.

[Q] 5.1.1 stock update: Re-root and Unencrypt Q's

Many of you have heard by now that 5.1.1 is out, and we should receive an update soon on our stock rom Nexus 6. I just bought a Nexus 6 64gb, XT1103, and it is running the stock rom, rooted, and un-encrypted. I'm wondering if we'll lose root and un-encrypt if we take the update, and loose data if we re-unencrypt. What have your experiences been on the stock rom 5.1 update?

bovineyard said:
Many of you have heard by now that 5.1.1 is out, and we should receive an update soon on our stock rom Nexus 6. I just bought a Nexus 6 64gb, XT1103, and it is running the stock rom, rooted, and un-encrypted. I'm wondering if we'll lose root and un-encrypt if we take the update, and loose data if we re-unencrypt. What have your experiences been on the stock rom 5.1 update?
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While the update will download, it will not install with root and an unencrypted kernel.
IF you want to take the OTA, then you will need to fastboot flash the boot.img and system.img from the factory image. Boot.img will encrypt your kernel, but you will not loose data (but you will have to factory reset, again, if you want to unencrypt, which will wipe data). Flashing the system.img will remove root and flash stock recovery.

cam30era said:
While the update will download, it will not install with root and an unencrypted kernel.
IF you want to take the OTA, then you will need to fastboot flash the boot.img and system.img from the factory image. Boot.img will encrypt your kernel, but you will not loose data (but you will have to factory reset, again, if you want to unencrypt, which will wipe data). Flashing the system.img will remove root and flash stock recovery.
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i think with root but encrypted will do the update

HitNrun_ said:
i think with root but encrypted will do the update
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Nope, not on Lollipop. Kitkat and before, yes. Not anymore.

cam30era said:
Nope, not on Lollipop. Kitkat and before, yes. Not anymore.
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so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?

5.1.1 is NOT officially out for the nexus 6. it is in aosp though. thats two differing things. stock is on 5.1.

HitNrun_ said:
so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?
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The OTA package only looks at system.img and boot.img. Of course you need stock recovery to install it. And the "unroot" option inside SuperSU is insufficient. It leaves some traces around that will prevent the OTA from loading. Flash the stock system.img.
And afterwards, when unencrypting, you'll have to fastboot format userdata. Which will wipe your SDcard again.

HitNrun_ said:
so unroot and encypted will do the trick? what about the bootloader, will it work with unlocked or should it be relocked too?
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Bootloader status has no effect on the OTA.

I have rooted, but encrypted 5.1, and got OTA5 5.1.1, I am on custom recovery,
should I flash stock recovery before flashing? plus, after installing, I will need to regain root access right? my data/apps will stay intact right?

ibraheeemz said:
I have rooted, but encrypted 5.1, and got OTA5 5.1.1, I am on custom recovery,
should I flash stock recovery before flashing? plus, after installing, I will need to regain root access right? my data/apps will stay intact right?
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As it says above, you cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted, even with a stock recovery.
You will have to flash the system.img and boot.img of the Stock factory image. IF the full factory image of the version you want is available here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
...download it, extract the system and boot.img and fastboot flash them. Job done. If the version you need is only available in an OTA file, you'll need to flash the system and boot of the expected version (i.e. the one you're on now) AND flash the recovery to accept the OTA

danarama said:
As it says above, you cannot receive the update if you are rooted, even with a stock recovery.
You will have to flash the system.img and boot.img of the Stock factory image. IF the full factory image of the version you want is available here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
...download it, extract the system and boot.img and fastboot flash them. Job done. If the version you need is only available in an OTA file, you'll need to flash the system and boot of the expected version (i.e. the one you're on now) AND flash the recovery to accept the OTA
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I am using a custom recovery, on a rooted but STOCK 5.1, and I already got OTA, I downloaded it as well, but needed to make sure before upgrading, that it doesn't cause data lose if I move to stock recovery, and want to regain root after flashing 5.1.1,
anyway, i flashed stock recovery, then proceeded with the update, it tried flashing but showed "error" at the android screen, so, I don't whats missing, as I was using stock 5.1, just unlocked it, rooted it, and flashed customer recovery,

ibraheeemz said:
I am using a custom recovery, on a rooted but STOCK 5.1, and I already got OTA, I downloaded it as well, but needed to make sure before upgrading, that it doesn't cause data lose if I move to stock recovery, and want to regain root after flashing 5.1.1,
anyway, i flashed stock recovery, then proceeded with the update, it tried flashing but showed "error" at the android screen, so, I don't whats missing, as I was using stock 5.1, just unlocked it, rooted it, and flashed customer recovery,
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When I said receive, I meant flash. You cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted. Period. Read my post again but substitute the word receive for flash.

danarama said:
When I said receive, I meant flash. You cannot FLASH the update if you are rooted. Period. Read my post again but substitute the word receive for flash.
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got it, but still looking for the answer, will I loose data after flashing system.img? or while regaining root after 5.1.1 update?

ibraheeemz said:
got it, but still looking for the answer, will I loose data after flashing system.img? or while regaining root after 5.1.1 update?
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No. Only factory reset or unlocking the bootloader loses data. System.img is the rom, flashing to /system. Boot.img is the kernel, flashing to /boot. if you flash these separately, userdata.img is not flashed to /data, so your /data partition remains in tact.
root doesn't touch /data either. Just /system

HitNrun_ said:
i think with root but encrypted will do the update
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How do you get root while leaving it encrypted?

Arfyness said:
How do you get root while leaving it encrypted?
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No OTA update will flash with any mods to system, boot, or recovery. No way, no how.

Evolution_Tech said:
No OTA update will flash with any mods to system, boot, or recovery. No way, no how.
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Yeahhh I get that now. It's got to verify that what's already there matches what it's supposed to be updating.
I'm looking here because I'm on Fi now, and there are more implications there than I realized before. Not that those matter too much, I do want stock. Just trying to see how I can stay current, be rooted, and not break Fi. Thankfully it's a Nexus device so it's not throwing up insane device restrictions blocking root access.
I want to be able to update system and boot, as they come available, with a recovery like TWRP or CWM. Then reapply SuperSU flash after that. What I'm not sure of is whether I can even do that. I'm fuzzy on the whole " encrypted device" thing. Does that apply to the images at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
Would I be hosed if I took the system and boot images and flash those to update from one version to the next?

Arfyness said:
Yeahhh I get that now. It's got to verify that what's already there matches what it's supposed to be updating.
I'm looking here because I'm on Fi now, and there are more implications there than I realized before. Not that those matter too much, I do want stock. Just trying to see how I can stay current, be rooted, and not break Fi. Thankfully it's a Nexus device so it's not throwing up insane device restrictions blocking root access.
I want to be able to update system and boot, as they come available, with a recovery like TWRP or CWM. Then reapply SuperSU flash after that. What I'm not sure of is whether I can even do that. I'm fuzzy on the whole " encrypted device" thing. Does that apply to the images at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
Would I be hosed if I took the system and boot images and flash those to update from one version to the next?
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You absolutely can, it's just that if you wish to decrypt, you'll have to format data. I've had this device, since launch and I'm still encrypted. Not an issue for me. But you can just flash, individually, everything but userdata and keep your data intact, each time a new image becomes available. Then just flash TWRP and then SuoerSu from TWRP. If you've unencrypted, OTA won't flash. You can always update manually.

edit - this was a duplicate. i can't delete it.

Evolution_Tech said:
You absolutely can, it's just that if you wish to decrypt, you'll have to format data. I've had this device, since launch and I'm still encrypted. Not an issue for me. But you can just flash, individually, everything but userdata and keep your data intact, each time a new image becomes available. Then just flash TWRP and then SuoerSu from TWRP. If you've unencrypted, OTA won't flash. You can always update manually.
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Oohhh, wait, so flash from fastboot, except flash SuperSU from TWRP? (update.zip style?) Is only the data partition encrypted then? If that's the case why are folks decrypting? Unlocking the bootloader requires it, but what is that required for?
And thank you loads BTW! I'm so far behind! I'm coming off 3 years of rooted, stable SGS3 stock, last updated to 4.1.2. There were no further stock updates that I wanted, (too many bugs) and everything was working so I left well enough alone.
(I probably would have messed about with CM and other roms, if I had not initially bricked the thing trying to put TWRP on... and had to send it for somebody to JTAG reprogram it. Thought about it several times, but never wanted to chance it again.)
Thanks again!

LMY48I update error

Hey.
My N6 got an error after I tried to update. I saw somewhere that installing the update on a rooted device (stock everything, just root) would be successful but it would remove root. Tried and got the error message with the android guy and a warning sign or something like that just with the "error" text, no more. I unrooted and rebooted, after some time the update prompted again and tried, same result.
I did some searches and just a few people have commented this issue, no answers yet.
Any ideas?

OscarBrito said:
Hey.
My N6 got an error after I tried to update. I saw somewhere that installing the update on a rooted device (stock everything, just root) would be successful but it would remove root. Tried and got the error message with the android guy and a warning sign or something like that just with the "error" text, no more. I unrooted and rebooted, after some time the update prompted again and tried, same result.
I did some searches and just a few people have commented this issue, no answers yet.
Any ideas?
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Has to be completely stock. No root, custom kernel or recovery. How did you unroot. Have to flash factory image to remove root. Can't just remove the app. Forget OTAs if you are gonna root. Have to reflash factory image anyway so might as well just flash the updated image.

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prdog1 said:
Has to be completely stock. No root, custom kernel or recovery. How did you unroot. Have to flash factory image to remove root. Can't just remove the app. Forget OTAs if you are gonna root. Have to reflash factory image anyway so might as well just flash the updated image.
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I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.

OscarBrito said:
I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
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Your system is still modified. Even if remove the files the partition has been modified. If you have custom recovery or kernel it also won't flash. Have to flash back to stock so might as well just fastboot the updated factory image.

OscarBrito said:
I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
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None of the unroot options put things back to 100% stock. They just remove root. The only way to remove all traces is to fastboot flash the system.img
If you're going to run rooted, forget about OTA and learn about fastboot.
General > sticky roll-up > adb and fastboot

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prdog1 said:
Your system is still modified. Even if remove the files the partition has been modified. If you have custom recovery or kernel it also won't flash. Have to flash back to stock so might as well just fastboot the updated factory image.
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Can I backup, do a factory data reset and then do the update? Then root again and restore my stuff.

OscarBrito said:
Can I backup, do a factory data reset and then do the update? Then root again and restore my stuff.
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Nope. Have to flash stock image as posted above.

prdog1 said:
Nope. Have to flash stock image as posted above.
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Dang. I don't like to mess with flashing and custom recoveries but I guess now I most.
I'm looking at Flashify. Download the stock image with the patch already on it and flash it that way. Do you recommend doing it that way?
Another thing, Any good and simple backup tool? I just want to skip the part where I need to configure everything again.

OscarBrito said:
Dang. I don't like to mess with flashing and custom recoveries but I guess now I most.
I'm looking at Flashify. Download the stock image with the patch already on it and flash it that way. Do you recommend doing it that way?
Another thing, Any good and simple backup tool? I just want to skip the part where I need to configure everything again.
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You can't flash the stock image with flashify. Use fastboot as I have already advised.
Titanium backup is a great backup app, but you won't wipe the device if you only flash the system.img, boot.img and radio.img

danarama said:
You can't flash the stock image with flashify. Use fastboot as I have already advised.
Titanium backup is a great backup app, but you won't wipe the device if you only flash the system.img, boot.img and radio.img
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Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.

OscarBrito said:
Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
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Fastboot works with Linux also.

OscarBrito said:
Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
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No worries. Linux is even easier. You just stick the fastboot binaries in /usr/bin
Note, you'll probably need to use sudo / su to call fastboot.

danarama said:
No worries. Linux is even easier. You just stick the fastboot binaries in /usr/bin
Note, you'll probably need to use sudo / su to call fastboot.
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If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.

OscarBrito said:
If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
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Better chance of bricking it with ToolKit than with manual fastboot. I run stock rooted with TWRP also. Takes 2-3 minutes to update with fastboot. If toolkit fails will most likely need fastboot to fix it anyway.

OscarBrito said:
If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
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Don't use toolkits unless you can use fastboot..so just use fastboot. I'm not saying this for fun you know...if anything, its quite boring having to say this to everyone on a daily basis
Use fastboot please. Read my fastboot thread. You understand that fastboot is Googles method for flashing Google android on the google nexus? It should be pretty clear that this is the best tool for the job.

danarama said:
Don't use toolkits unless you can use fastboot..so just use fastboot. I'm not saying this for fun you know...if anything, its quite boring having to say this to everyone on a daily basis
Use fastboot please. Read my fastboot thread. You understand that fastboot is Googles method for flashing Google android on the google nexus? It should be pretty clear that this is the best tool for the job.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not afraid of a terminal, but well, you are right going with a terminal rather than a tool.
I'm finishing my backup and then doing all this manually, thanks a lot, both.

OscarBrito said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not afraid of a terminal, but well, you are right going with a terminal rather than a tool.
I'm finishing my backup and then doing all this manually, thanks a lot, both.
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I can't see how any Linux user would be afraid of terminals

Yeap, just tried to Flash my Super Awesome Nexus 5 with the LMY48I Update Zip file (10mb), via TWRP, while Rooted and I got the Nice Red Error... So I guess I have to download the Factory image LMY48I and via fastboot just flash the system.img if nothing else has been modified since LMY48B... In case I loose Root Access I might just reflash the script via TWRP... I will post update if anyone interested...

imor said:
Yeap, just tried to Flash my Super Awesome Nexus 5 with the LMY48I Update Zip file (10mb), via TWRP, while Rooted and I got the Nice Red Error... So I guess I have to download the Factory image LMY48I and via fastboot just flash the system.img if nothing else has been modified since LMY48B... In case I loose Root Access I might just reflash the script via TWRP... I will post update if anyone interested...
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You will lose root. Flash supersu from recovery before first boot

Ok, just confirming here before I mess up. I have an international N6 rooted with stock recovery running LMY47Z. I can't update OTA. So I should flash the full stock image and then run cf-auto-root before rebooting.
Is this correct? Will I lose my user data when I do this? If so, what's the easiest way to backup and restore? Can't I flash the 25MB update .zip instead?
Thanks!

Magisk 14 News

Wow no need for custom recovery...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...hout-root-installing-without-custom-recovery/

@ultramag69 Maybe he doesn't follow Magisk closely? I know I don't. Magisk is only on used my stepmom's OP3T H2OS (which I update but don't look at the change log since it's only there in case I need it in the future), the other 2 phones I support don't use Magisk they use LOS su add-on. Not everyone who uses root cares about all the bloated/"nifty" features that come out, some just want plain old root.

I only use for root too but every so often I open magisk manager as it updates both the manager app and magisk itself....
It's done that for ages... The only one I found that didn't was 13.1, that one needed TWRP.

I'm letting people know that with 14 they can keep stock recovery and take OTAs

ultramag69 said:
I only use for root too but every so often I open magisk manager as it updates both the manager app and magisk itself....
It's done that for ages... The only one I found that didn't was 13.1, that one needed TWRP.
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Before you flame someone you should read the link. FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU CAN KEEP STOCK RECOVERY SO YOU CAN TAKE OTAS

lollyjay said:
Before you flame someone you should read the link. FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU CAN KEEP STOCK RECOVERY SO YOU CAN TAKE OTAS
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I have had stock recovery on more than one without having to reflash recovery with custom one .
If you use fastboot to flash the recovery, Instead of replacing with TWRP, you can use the command "fastboot boot TWRP.img" (TWRP.img being the name of the TWRP image you have such as twrp-3.1.1-0-oneplus5.img) , this will just boot you into TWRP where you can flash SuperSU or Magisk as you please but will revert back to stock recovery once you boot again while retaining root.

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I have had stock recovery on more than one without having to reflash recovery with custom one .
If you use fastboot to flash the recovery, Instead of replacing with TWRP, you can use the command "fastboot boot TWRP.img" (TWRP.img being the name of the TWRP image you have such as twrp-3.1.1-0-oneplus5.img) , this will just boot you into TWRP where you can flash SuperSU or Magisk as you please but will revert back to stock recovery once you boot again while retaining root.
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No need to do that now

Honestly, who roots a phone without flashing a custom recovery the very second after? Unless they are forced to use Flashfire without BL unlock, I guess.

lollyjay said:
No need to do that now
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Yeah, but using magisk to root my Axon 7 with unlocked bootloader didn't work...
There's still problems with some phones...

ultramag69 said:
Yeah, but using magisk to root my Axon 7 with unlocked bootloader didn't work...
There's still problems with some phones...
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No problems at all with my OP5

Magisk 14.0 breaks XPosed so had to go back to Magisk 13.3

Now where can we obtain a copy of the stock boot.img?

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Now where can we obtain a copy of the stock boot.img?
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What you're supposed to do is make a backup of your boot partition any time you update your rom. So if you didn't do that then you can dirty flash your current Rom and that would give you the stock boot.img and again, go into recovery and make a backup of your boot partition. then if you want to flash a custom kernel you can.

Help the noobs
Would any of you more experienced guys please post a step-by-step of how to do it?
From what Eric214 wrote I still don't understand where (or how) to get a copy of the stock_boot.img.
If you get the copy of the stock boot image, is it possible to do it without unlocking the bootloader?
I already installed everything before reading how to root - stupid me, and don't want to reinstall everything.

s_ofer said:
Would any of you more experienced guys please post a step-by-step of how to do it?
From what Eric214 wrote I still don't understand where (or how) to get a copy of the stock_boot.img.
If you get the copy of the stock boot image, is it possible to do it without unlocking the bootloader?
I already installed everything before reading how to root - stupid me, and don't want to reinstall everything.
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I have the stock 4.5.10 boot.img for download here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3gcDbDvV4Mkbm5EMEZ4dnpSbk0/view?usp=drivesdk
Sent from my OnePlus5 using XDA Labs

Thanks.
Do any of you think it is possible to FLASH anything without unlocking the bootloader?
There is a thread somewhere for OP3T that shows somehow that is possible to load TWRP on the phone without unlocking the bootloader or wiping data.

I only use for root too but every so often I open magisk manager as it updates also both the manager app and magisk itself. But using magisk to root my Axon 7 with unlocked bootloader.