Hey.
My N6 got an error after I tried to update. I saw somewhere that installing the update on a rooted device (stock everything, just root) would be successful but it would remove root. Tried and got the error message with the android guy and a warning sign or something like that just with the "error" text, no more. I unrooted and rebooted, after some time the update prompted again and tried, same result.
I did some searches and just a few people have commented this issue, no answers yet.
Any ideas?
OscarBrito said:
Hey.
My N6 got an error after I tried to update. I saw somewhere that installing the update on a rooted device (stock everything, just root) would be successful but it would remove root. Tried and got the error message with the android guy and a warning sign or something like that just with the "error" text, no more. I unrooted and rebooted, after some time the update prompted again and tried, same result.
I did some searches and just a few people have commented this issue, no answers yet.
Any ideas?
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Has to be completely stock. No root, custom kernel or recovery. How did you unroot. Have to flash factory image to remove root. Can't just remove the app. Forget OTAs if you are gonna root. Have to reflash factory image anyway so might as well just flash the updated image.
KingRoot
prdog1 said:
Has to be completely stock. No root, custom kernel or recovery. How did you unroot. Have to flash factory image to remove root. Can't just remove the app. Forget OTAs if you are gonna root. Have to reflash factory image anyway so might as well just flash the updated image.
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I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
OscarBrito said:
I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
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Your system is still modified. Even if remove the files the partition has been modified. If you have custom recovery or kernel it also won't flash. Have to flash back to stock so might as well just fastboot the updated factory image.
OscarBrito said:
I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
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None of the unroot options put things back to 100% stock. They just remove root. The only way to remove all traces is to fastboot flash the system.img
If you're going to run rooted, forget about OTA and learn about fastboot.
General > sticky roll-up > adb and fastboot
Reset
prdog1 said:
Your system is still modified. Even if remove the files the partition has been modified. If you have custom recovery or kernel it also won't flash. Have to flash back to stock so might as well just fastboot the updated factory image.
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Can I backup, do a factory data reset and then do the update? Then root again and restore my stuff.
OscarBrito said:
Can I backup, do a factory data reset and then do the update? Then root again and restore my stuff.
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Nope. Have to flash stock image as posted above.
prdog1 said:
Nope. Have to flash stock image as posted above.
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Dang. I don't like to mess with flashing and custom recoveries but I guess now I most.
I'm looking at Flashify. Download the stock image with the patch already on it and flash it that way. Do you recommend doing it that way?
Another thing, Any good and simple backup tool? I just want to skip the part where I need to configure everything again.
OscarBrito said:
Dang. I don't like to mess with flashing and custom recoveries but I guess now I most.
I'm looking at Flashify. Download the stock image with the patch already on it and flash it that way. Do you recommend doing it that way?
Another thing, Any good and simple backup tool? I just want to skip the part where I need to configure everything again.
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You can't flash the stock image with flashify. Use fastboot as I have already advised.
Titanium backup is a great backup app, but you won't wipe the device if you only flash the system.img, boot.img and radio.img
danarama said:
You can't flash the stock image with flashify. Use fastboot as I have already advised.
Titanium backup is a great backup app, but you won't wipe the device if you only flash the system.img, boot.img and radio.img
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Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
OscarBrito said:
Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
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Fastboot works with Linux also.
OscarBrito said:
Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
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No worries. Linux is even easier. You just stick the fastboot binaries in /usr/bin
Note, you'll probably need to use sudo / su to call fastboot.
danarama said:
No worries. Linux is even easier. You just stick the fastboot binaries in /usr/bin
Note, you'll probably need to use sudo / su to call fastboot.
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If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
OscarBrito said:
If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
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Better chance of bricking it with ToolKit than with manual fastboot. I run stock rooted with TWRP also. Takes 2-3 minutes to update with fastboot. If toolkit fails will most likely need fastboot to fix it anyway.
OscarBrito said:
If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
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Don't use toolkits unless you can use fastboot..so just use fastboot. I'm not saying this for fun you know...if anything, its quite boring having to say this to everyone on a daily basis
Use fastboot please. Read my fastboot thread. You understand that fastboot is Googles method for flashing Google android on the google nexus? It should be pretty clear that this is the best tool for the job.
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Don't use toolkits unless you can use fastboot..so just use fastboot. I'm not saying this for fun you know...if anything, its quite boring having to say this to everyone on a daily basis
Use fastboot please. Read my fastboot thread. You understand that fastboot is Googles method for flashing Google android on the google nexus? It should be pretty clear that this is the best tool for the job.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not afraid of a terminal, but well, you are right going with a terminal rather than a tool.
I'm finishing my backup and then doing all this manually, thanks a lot, both.
OscarBrito said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not afraid of a terminal, but well, you are right going with a terminal rather than a tool.
I'm finishing my backup and then doing all this manually, thanks a lot, both.
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I can't see how any Linux user would be afraid of terminals
Yeap, just tried to Flash my Super Awesome Nexus 5 with the LMY48I Update Zip file (10mb), via TWRP, while Rooted and I got the Nice Red Error... So I guess I have to download the Factory image LMY48I and via fastboot just flash the system.img if nothing else has been modified since LMY48B... In case I loose Root Access I might just reflash the script via TWRP... I will post update if anyone interested...
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Yeap, just tried to Flash my Super Awesome Nexus 5 with the LMY48I Update Zip file (10mb), via TWRP, while Rooted and I got the Nice Red Error... So I guess I have to download the Factory image LMY48I and via fastboot just flash the system.img if nothing else has been modified since LMY48B... In case I loose Root Access I might just reflash the script via TWRP... I will post update if anyone interested...
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You will lose root. Flash supersu from recovery before first boot
Ok, just confirming here before I mess up. I have an international N6 rooted with stock recovery running LMY47Z. I can't update OTA. So I should flash the full stock image and then run cf-auto-root before rebooting.
Is this correct? Will I lose my user data when I do this? If so, what's the easiest way to backup and restore? Can't I flash the 25MB update .zip instead?
Thanks!
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Hi I just got the 5.0.1 update, I downloaded it and the phone rebooted itself, I got the installation screen and after 5 seconds I just got the word "error" and I had to restart it manually; the device is rooted, have anyone else had this problem? I would appreciate your help
saman0suke1 said:
Hi I just got the 5.0.1 update, I downloaded it and the phone rebooted itself, I got the installation screen and after 5 seconds I just got the word "error" and I had to restart it manually; the device is rooted, have anyone else had this problem? I would appreciate your help
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With lollipop you can't take an OTA if you are rooted or running just about anything else modified (custom kernels, like ones that have force decrypt disabled also will cause it to error out).
You can still flash it manually by flashing the images. If you don't want to wipe, don't flash the userdata.img . Also, if you aren't currently encrypted, booting up with the stock kernel will force encrypt your device, so don't flash that if you want to stay that way. You can then re-root. There are more in depth instructions for doing this out there if you search around for them.
My Nexus 6 took 5.0.1 just fine, but my Nexus 7 does this same thing, running stock ROM/Bootloader/Recovery/etc. The ONLY thing done to it is the Fastboot OEM unlock, but I doubt that alone would stop it. I'm curious to know what resolves this ( other than downloading the factory image and flashing it without wiping the userdata )
Just got same error. I didnt even root phone, bought it today, it installed apps from backup of my previous Nexus 4 and OTA is failing.
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With lollipop you can't take an OTA if you are rooted or running just about anything else modified (custom kernels, like ones that have force decrypt disabled also will cause it to error out).
You can still flash it manually by flashing the images. If you don't want to wipe, don't flash the userdata.img . Also, if you aren't currently encrypted, booting up with the stock kernel will force encrypt your device, so don't flash that if you want to stay that way. You can then re-root. There are more in depth instructions for doing this out there if you search around for them.
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So basically the only way is to flash the image manually? If I choose not to flash userdata.img my phone data (photos, contacts, apps, etc) won't be erased right? But I will lose root correct? Thanks!
saman0suke1 said:
So basically the only way is to flash the image manually? If I choose not to flash userdata.img my phone data (photos, contacts, apps, etc) won't be erased right? But I will lose root correct? Thanks!
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Correct, with Lollipop if you modify things you basically are then forced to manually take the updates. Not that big of a deal as you would likely be needing a PC to reinstall your custom recovery or re-root anyhow after the update.
Flashing userdata.img isn't necessary to update. Neither is recovery.img if you want to keep a custom recovery.
Also as I mentioned before, if you have disabled encryption on your device, if you flash the stock kernel (boot.img) and boot up with it you will re-enable forced encryption. You will need to flash a kernel with force encryption disabled if you want to keep running without encryption. If you haven't disabled encryption, or don't care if your device re-encrypts (this doesn't erase anything, just may take a few minutes on first boot) then this doesn't matter.
cupfulloflol said:
Correct, with Lollipop if you modify things you basically are then forced to manually take the updates. Not that big of a deal as you would likely be needing a PC to reinstall your custom recovery or re-root anyhow after the update.
Flashing userdata.img isn't necessary to update. Neither is recovery.img if you want to keep a custom recovery.
Also as I mentioned before, if you have disabled encryption on your device, if you flash the stock kernel (boot.img) and boot up with it you will re-enable forced encryption. You will need to flash a kernel with force encryption disabled if you want to keep running without encryption. If you haven't disabled encryption, or don't care if your device re-encrypts (this doesn't erase anything, just may take a few minutes on first boot) then this doesn't matter.
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Can I manually update without removing root first? Am I going to receive an error if I don't remove it? based on what you said, I will remove userdata.img and recovery.img and that will not wipe my data right? Do I have to decompress those files or the flash-all.bat will take care of that? Thanks!
saman0suke1 said:
Can I manually update without removing root first? Am I going to receive an error if I don't remove it? based on what you said, I will remove userdata.img and recovery.img and that will not wipe my data right? Do I have to decompress those files or the flash-all.bat will take care of that? Thanks!
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I'm interested as well. Mine is rooted and I have encryption disabled, and I have TWRP on my phone. I tried to sideload the OTA update, but I can't get my phone to start sideload. I even flashed the stock recovery to get it to go, and no dice. What do I do next?
Anyone? I would appreciate the feedback, thanks!
sideload refers to adb as I understand it. thats NOT how you flash....you use fastboot to flash so you can do it all by hand or use one of the toolkits that script it for you.
cmh714 said:
sideload refers to adb as I understand it. thats NOT how you flash....you use fastboot to flash so you can do it all by hand or use one of the toolkits that script it for you.
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Thanks, I get that, however I wanted to know if I need to remove the root before installing the update and if I need to decompress the .zip with the .img files or the batch will do that? thanks!
saman0suke1 said:
Thanks, I get that, however I wanted to know if I need to remove the root before installing the update and if I need to decompress the .zip with the .img files or the batch will do that? thanks!
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If your doing from the PC you need to extract the zip file from within the image and then fastboot them. As for root, when you do it from fastboot I dont believe it matters as you will lose root anyway and need to re-root via flashing SuperSU.zip
Worked great! Thanks! Android 5.0.1 and root, no data deleted
Is it normal to not have received an update beyond 5.0? I have had a Nexus 6 since day one, no rooting of any kind and I have not received 5.0.1.
I have done the sideload method, but I really don't want to bother with it. I do however want some of these terrible bugs I am experiencing squashed. This phone is giving me lots of issues lately.
Thanks!
Can you receive and install OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader? Everything else is stock, no disabled encryption or anything just unlocked bootloader.
naulsballs said:
Can you receive and install OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader? Everything else is stock, no disabled encryption or anything just unlocked bootloader.
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Yes
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
saman0suke1 said:
Worked great! Thanks! Android 5.0.1 and root, no data deleted
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Can you provide steps for this. I am in the same situation. I have the 5.0.1 image downloaded, just wondering what files and what order to flash. Thanks
TOCS88 said:
Is it normal to not have received an update beyond 5.0? I have had a Nexus 6 since day one, no rooting of any kind and I have not received 5.0.1.
I have done the sideload method, but I really don't want to bother with it. I do however want some of these terrible bugs I am experiencing squashed. This phone is giving me lots of issues lately.
Thanks!
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Try pulling your Sim card out and rebooting.
scotbotmosh said:
Can you provide steps for this. I am in the same situation. I have the 5.0.1 image downloaded, just wondering what files and what order to flash. Thanks
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If you're planning to stay rooted (meaning no OTA in future) system.img, boot.img and radio.img in any order.
scotbotmosh said:
Can you provide steps for this. I am in the same situation. I have the 5.0.1 image downloaded, just wondering what files and what order to flash. Thanks
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If you use fastboot, just run these commands in terminal (I used windows, so in order to flash using fastboot, put the image that you downloaded for the update in the same folder where you have fastboot and open a terminal there) you can rename the .img files to whatever you like and replace those name in the commands below:
fastboot flash bootloader <bootloader file name here>.img
fastboot flash radio <radio file name here>.img
Then reboot it:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
Then flash these:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
And that's it. These commands are run while the phone is connected to the PC, you have to turn it on by pressing volume up + volume down + power.
Good luck.
Is there a way to sideload the 5.1 update (downloaded from the google images page) without losing the CF root AND not losing any of my system settings and configurations?
Thanks in advance.
LordGrahf said:
Is there a way to sideload the 5.1 update (downloaded from the google images page) without losing the CF root AND not losing any of my system settings and configurations?
Thanks in advance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/using-image-to-update-nexus-6-data-loss-t3053158
Edit after rereading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008 I would prob also do the reboot step after radio flash.
Maybe what your lookin for. If rooting is lost simply redo the cf root process and flash your custom recovery via fastboot. Most importantly this route will prevent data loss. I am going this route but will still backup because its safer and more responsible.
Without a modified img, and using the google provided stuff, you can't keep root. Just re-root, it's not hard.
Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps? For example I HAVE LMT pie control installed and configured. Would reinstalling root make it work as before without the need to reinstall and reconfigure LMT?
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update? Like I think I should probably skip the user.img if I don't want my user settings to be wiped out, correct? What other images should I skip in order to not wipe out apps, apps settings, and system settings.
Thank you very much
LordGrahf said:
Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps? For example I HAVE LMT pie control installed and configured. Would reinstalling root make it work as before without the need to reinstall and reconfigure LMT?
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update? Like I think I should probably skip the user.img if I don't want my user settings to be wiped out, correct? What other images should I skip in order to not wipe out apps, apps settings, and system settings.
Thank you very much
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If doing the fastboot way like I linked (I have not read through the procedure for sideload, so I don't know)
1) no
2) no if you only flash some of the IMG files. For your purpose it seems (I'm also assuming you don't have custom kernel) these are the ones to not lose data. Make sure you follow the links in how to flash this correctly with the appropriate order and spots where to fastboot reboot.
Bootloader image
Radio image
Boot image (kernel)
Cache image
System image
Recovery image
Then reroot with the cf zip like before then reinstall the su app.
4) no we flash the new stock recovery too
5) minimal, to not overwrite the user data, above. Yup we skip the user data image
LordGrahf said:
Thanks guys. Few questions:
1. Do I need to unroot before sideloading the update?
2. Would I loose my currently installed and configured apps?
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No.
LordGrahf said:
3. If I'm not losing my installed apps, what would happen to my root-required apps?
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You'll have to install su since it was deleted by system.img but that's all. Note that last time I looked CF-Auto still said it was 5.0.1 but ...
LordGrahf said:
4. I'm still using stock recovery, would that affect what I'm trying to do in any way?
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If you install a current TWRP it will install super-su for you when you request a reboot.
LordGrahf said:
5. What is the minimal set of the update's images can I use to get this update?
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Everything except user.img. You can read or run flash-base to get the Google suggested initial ordering.
MunkinDrunky said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/using-image-to-update-nexus-6-data-loss-t3053158
Edit after rereading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008 I would prob also do the reboot step after radio flash.
Maybe what your lookin for. If rooting is lost simply redo the cf root process and flash your custom recovery via fastboot. Most importantly this route will prevent data loss. I am going this route but will still backup because its safer and more responsible.
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I flashed the bootloader, but the command to flash the radio (fastboot flash radio radio-shamu-d4.0-9625-02.95.img) failed
Any idea?
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I flashed the bootloader, but the command to flash the radio (fastboot flash radio radio-shamu-d4.0-9625-02.95.img) failed
Any idea?
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I don't really know. I usually just follow instructions. Did you fastboot reboot after flashing bootloader?
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I don't really know. I usually just follow instructions. Did you fastboot reboot after flashing bootloader?
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Yes, I rebooted the boot loader (and it indeed showed the new boot loader version after the reboot)
After the fail message of the radio flash command, I rebooted to the system, it works, and from the baseband number in settings/about, it seems that the new radio has been flashed (besides the fail message)
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Yes, I rebooted the boot loader (and it indeed showed the new boot loader version after the reboot)
After the fail message of the radio flash command, I rebooted to the system, it works, and from the baseband number in settings/about, it seems that the new radio has been flashed (besides the fail message)
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hmm yeah i really dont know why that happend. I guess as long as the new radio shows up as you say then it worked. I will actually be doing this shortly, since i am now at a computer
Just updated to 5.1
for those who will read later and more importantly in my same position.
I was on 5.0.1 BL unlocked, custom recovery+root, custom kernel- -wanting to go to->>5.1, root+custom recovery (cause flashing kernels is trivial) without any data loss (basically don't flash the userdata image) (also you could have left out the radio, I guess if you don't want newest radio, and the boot if you want to just keep your kernel--**not 100% about these two though)
I flashed via fastboot the: bootloader (then fastboot reboot-bootloader), the radio (then fastboot reboot-bootloader), then the boot (updated stock kernel), cache, system. Done, exit command prompt, then while in fastboot menu go into TWRP, whereby I choose system reboot and TWRP RE-ROOTS for me! Now I just kernel shop again
Thanks a lot gents. I followed the directions and upgraded/rerouted and none of my apps/settings got wiped. Yay!!
Can someone verify I'm on the latest versions for all components from my screenshot?
Thanks!
I also updated my Nexus 6 with 5.0.1, unlock and root, to 5.1 without losing data. I just had to re-root it afterwards.
I used Wugfresh Nexus root toolkit.
In short I used "Flash stock + unroot", in which I selected "Enable no-wipe" and "force-flash".
After this I rerooted the device from within NRT.
Worked like a charm!
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LordGrahf said:
Thanks a lot gents. I followed the directions and upgraded/rerouted and none of my apps/settings got wiped. Yay!!
Can someone verify I'm on the latest versions for all components from my screenshot?
Thanks!
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That's all the latest versions yes...
My nexus 6 is unlocked and is running stock 5.0.1, rooted. . It has twrp and is decrypted.
I tried to sideload the 5.1 ota but it doesnt work.
I tried flashing the new 5.1 factory image but that doesnt work.
I'm tired of all this now, I just want my phone running stock 5.1 , locked , encrypted ,unrooted so I can just get ota next time from Google whenever they send it out.
Any guidance on what I need to do would be appreciated.
Use Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit :good:
Edit : Now I'm currently "Optimising app..." loop.
I tried using tge NRT to flash it back to stock but it didn't work.
I would first make a TWRP backup, then I would flash the boot image (decrypted if you want and make sure its the new one), system, radio and then reboot. I flashed everything fine while keeping twrp on my phone but I didn't like not having a custom ROM plus it was a little laggy so I restored a TWRP backup. My phone did bootloop for a while but eventually it booted 5.1. I would be careful since 5.1 seems to be having some issues in general.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...gs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452/page101
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Originally Posted by baudi11
Same thing happened to me. Here's what I did.
1. Press and hold power, volume up, and volume down. Keep holding them down until the phone boots into bootloader mode.
2. Go back to the toolkit and click the radio button labeled "Soft bricked/bootloop"
3. Click "Flash stock plus unroot"
4. Check all the boxes under "Settings", including "Post-flash factory reset" then click OK.
5. Follow the toolkit instructions from there.
This got me out of the bootloop, successfully installed 5.1, and kept all my apps and settings. Good luck.
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It worked for me after that. Now I'm booted in 5.1
When I try to flash the factory images directly from Google I get the following errors even though the MD5 checks out.
archive does not contain 'boot.sig'
archive does not contain 'recovery.sig'
failed to allocate 1778070480 bytes
error: update package missing system.img
Press any key to exit...
celeriL said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...gs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452/page101
It worked for me after that. Now I'm booted in 5.1
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Thanks so much! This worked perfectly. Exactly what I needed. The past couple days have been so annoying but now it's over. Thanks again!
Giuseppe1010 said:
Thanks so much! This worked perfectly. Exactly what I needed. The past couple days have been so annoying but now it's over. Thanks again!
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Glad to help!
You also could have extracted the zip and manually flashed the images ing fastboot
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img
Etc
rootSU said:
You also could have extracted the zip and manually flashed the images ing fastboot
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img
Etc
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HaHaa. Tried and true. Always works.
prdog1 said:
HaHaa. Tried and true. Always works.
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rootSU said:
You also could have extracted the zip and manually flashed the images ing fastboot
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img
Etc
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I agree that always works without fail and is much easier than a tool kit. I don't like tool kits because people need to learn the correct way to flash things before using one because its better to understand what you are flashing should there be an error.
Pilz said:
I agree that always works without fail and is much easier than a tool kit. I don't like tool kits because people need to learn the correct way to flash things before using one because its better to understand what you are flashing should there be an error.
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I totally agree. Have done successful manual flash when tool kits failed. Seen on Nexus 6 already.Saved my soft brick with manual flash when tool kit failed.
Pilz said:
I agree that always works without fail and is much easier than a tool kit. I don't like tool kits because people need to learn the correct way to flash things before using one because its better to understand what you are flashing should there be an error.
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I don't have anything against toolkits on some devices, so long as it is not used as a shortcut to learning the basics. That said, on a nexus, I don't really see any need to be honest.
rootSU said:
I don't have anything against toolkits on some devices, so long as it is not used as a shortcut to learning the basics. That said, on a nexus, I don't really see any need to be honest.
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Thats how I feel because its so easy my wife could do it and she doesn't know anything about flashing. Toolkits are good for non Nexus devices, I just don't see a point when we need to learn things the correct way first.
I hope the bugs get sorted out so people don't hard brick their phones anyone
rootSU said:
You also could have extracted the zip and manually flashed the images ing fastboot
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash system system.img
Etc
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Im a complete fastboot novice since this is my first nexus device (always had samsung phones up until now) and although I managed to root and unlock the boot loader I want to make sure I learn all the basics including flashing (side loading?) subsequent updates.
So Im currently rooted, unlocked bootloader on a 5.01. custom rom. How would I go about flashing the 5.1 update manually?
Im assuming that once I extract the update zip file I will find all the images that need to be flashed....what order do i do them in? How do I take into account the boot loader locking issue people have been facing that results in a bricked device?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I found this thread which outlines what I need to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/using-image-to-update-nexus-6-data-loss-t3053158
I only have two question now:
1. Im assuming the system image will wipe out the custom rom im on but not the data will leaving the data cause a problem? whats the command line to wipe data?
2. This doesnt address the boot loader locking issue causing a brick that people have been facing. This process involves updating the boot loader what do i have to do to make sure I dont brick my device?
Thanks again
kingofkings11 said:
Im a complete fastboot novice since this is my first nexus device (always had samsung phones up until now) and although I managed to root and unlock the boot loader I want to make sure I learn all the basics including flashing (side loading?) subsequent updates.
So Im currently rooted, unlocked bootloader on a 5.01. custom rom. How would I go about flashing the 5.1 update manually?
Im assuming that once I extract the update zip file I will find all the images that need to be flashed....what order do i do them in? How do I take into account the boot loader locking issue people have been facing that results in a bricked device?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: I found this thread which outlines what I need to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/using-image-to-update-nexus-6-data-loss-t3053158
I only have two question now:
1. Im assuming the system image will wipe out the custom rom im on but not the data will leaving the data cause a problem? whats the command line to wipe data?
2. This doesnt address the boot loader locking issue causing a brick that people have been facing. This process involves updating the boot loader what do i have to do to make sure I dont brick my device?
Thanks again
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You could simply not update the bootloader. Bare minimum requirements is update system and boot (kernel). if you want to learn more about fastboot, go to general > All in one guide > Question 28.
If you do not update the bootloader, you'll never get an OTA but it doesn't seem like you're wanting that anyway.
In regards to data, yes it could cause a problem if you're using a custom rom. You can use fastboot erase data command. This also wipes your /sdcard though.
I am looking for an easy way to be able to receive OTA updates after rooting with the 'systemless' root method, the steps I mention below assume that the system partition remains untouched after rooting. I have searched and not found a clear answer on this.
Would I be correct in assuming that this procedure should work to receive an OTA update and keep stock recovery after rooting?
Start with completely stock Android 6.0
fastboot boot twrp-recovery.img (boot TWRP, NOT flash, to maintain stock recovery after rooting)
Flash systemless root with TWRP
OTA arrives (Android 6.0.1 for example)
fastboot flash boot boot.img (with stock 6.0 kernel, root lost)
Accept & install OTA update
Success?
So unless I am missing something, this method would leave the system in a stock, unrooted state after the OTA is installed, and could be repeated for future updates. Anybody have any experience with this yet?
Sounds like it will work, but why mess with the ota? More work and risk honestly.
Since you're already using fastboot just flash the newest boot and system.img. Then flash/boot twrp and flash su like you'd need to do anyway. Done. You don't lose anything flashing system.
yosmokinman said:
Sounds like it will work, but why mess with the ota? More work and risk honestly.
Since you're already using fastboot just flash the newest boot and system.img. Then flash/boot twrp and flash su like you'd need to do anyway. Done. You don't lose anything flashing system.
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That is true, kind of just wondering/gathering information. It just seemed like with the new root method, OTA would be possible and less risky than before.
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@quakeaz there is one step missing on your guide. After boot.img you also have to flash stock recovery.img. From Lollipop, Google is also checking installed recovery, and for successful OTA, it has to be stock as well.
Otherwise, your guide should work, I've done same thing with my Nexus 5 and 7 for like last 3 months.
Srandista said:
@quakeaz there is one step missing on your guide. After boot.img you also have to flash stock recovery.img. From Lollipop, Google is also checking installed recovery, and for successful OTA, it has to be stock as well.
Otherwise, your guide should work, I've done same thing with my Nexus 5 and 7 for like last 3 months.
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Thanks for your reply, but I intentionally left that step out, due to step 2 in my list. By only booting TWRP, instead of flashing, I assume stock recovery will remain after rooting.
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Thanks for your reply, but I intentionally left that step out, due to step 2 in my list. By only booting TWRP, instead of flashing, I assume stock recovery will remain after rooting.
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Ah, sorry, I overlooked that.
Since I have flashed TWRP instead of stock recovery, I'm going by same process as you write, just reflash stock recovery. And can confirm, that the process is indeed working (no need to install system.img, as with previous system-based SuperSU).
Sounds good!
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quakeaz said:
I am looking for an easy way to be able to receive OTA updates after rooting with the 'systemless' root method, the steps I mention below assume that the system partition remains untouched after rooting. I have searched and not found a clear answer on this.
Would I be correct in assuming that this procedure should work to receive an OTA update and keep stock recovery after rooting?
Start with completely stock Android 6.0
fastboot boot twrp-recovery.img (boot TWRP, NOT flash, to maintain stock recovery after rooting)
Flash systemless root with TWRP
OTA arrives (Android 6.0.1 for example)
fastboot flash boot boot.img (with stock 6.0 kernel, root lost)
Accept & install OTA update
Success?
So unless I am missing something, this method would leave the system in a stock, unrooted state after the OTA is installed, and could be repeated for future updates. Anybody have any experience with this yet?
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Instead of fastboot flashing boot.img, you can use "Settings --> Full Unroot" in SuperSU. During SuperSU systemless flash, your old boot image is backed up. Among other things, the full unroot option will restore the backup, assuming it hasn't been lost due to a factory reset and whatnot.
On many firmwares, this procedure also restores stock recovery. This requires that both the firmware supports recreating the recovery from the boot image plus a patch file (most do), and that TWRP did not remove said patch file (which some versions do).
That being said, if you're using fastboot anyway, flashing boot, recovery, system and vendor manually is always the safest thing before an OTA.
Thanks for the info. So I take it while using systemless root, installing ota without unrooting is a big nono? The January ota just downloaded and is asking me to install, should I do it manually?
Chainfire said:
Instead of fastboot flashing boot.img, you can use "Settings --> Full Unroot" in SuperSU. During SuperSU systemless flash, your old boot image is backed up. Among other things, the full unroot option will restore the backup, assuming it hasn't been lost due to a factory reset and whatnot.
On many firmwares, this procedure also restores stock recovery. This requires that both the firmware supports recreating the recovery from the boot image plus a patch file (most do), and that TWRP did not remove said patch file (which some versions do).
That being said, if you're using fastboot anyway, flashing boot, recovery, system and vendor manually is always the safest thing before an OTA.
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Thank you for this thread and the procedure. I tried myself to avoid as much as possible to use a computer for super easy OTA update. But there is always one obligatory step: to root the phone.
Phone systemless rooted (2.66) - TWRP installed - OTA arrives.
In SuperSu app : Fully unroot
Install OTA - success
Fastboot boot (or install) TWRP
Flash superSu 2.66.zip
And that's it!
My question is the following: Does it exist a possibility to load on step 3. something that could flash superSu.zip from within the phone, no computer required?
Maybe FlashFire? I guess not, for it needs root and the point is to flash a rooting zip... You see the loop there...
Would it be theoreticaly possible at all?
Judim said:
Maybe FlashFire? I guess not, for it needs root and the point is to flash a rooting zip... You see the loop there...
Would it be theoreticaly possible at all?
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Yes, this is one of the use-cases of FlashFire. I just haven't finished updating it to 6.0 yet.
Oh nice!
I didn't know it cause I never had the chance to try out FlashFire.
Thanks so much for everything you do for the Android community!
Cheers!
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Ah, sorry, I overlooked that.
Since I have flashed TWRP instead of stock recovery, I'm going by same process as you write, just reflash stock recovery. And can confirm, that the process is indeed working (no need to install system.img, as with previous system-based SuperSU).
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mine fail here. i previously got systemless root 2.62, blu spark kernel and twrp. fastboot flash stock boot and recovery. reboot to update and it fail. any idea why?
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mine fail here. i previously got systemless root 2.62, blu spark kernel and twrp. fastboot flash stock boot and recovery. reboot to update and it fail. any idea why?
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Did you modify system?
Try flashing system, boot, and recovery.
Then try again.
Hi, I have a Oneplus One and today has been released an OTA, so I tried the method. I have COS13 JK (latest full rom) firmware, with systemless 2.84beta supersu and twrp.
The only apps that have root access are AdAway and Greenify (without mods to system apps). No Busybox installed.
I reverted via fastboot to original JK boot.img and recovery.img, and restored, via Adaway, the original hosts file, then I applied the OTA via stock Cyano Recovery, but update failed ("system partition has unexpected contents" error).
Why?
Thanks.
you have to unroot first from the app.Revert to original boot. and then flash
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caldent said:
you have to unroot first from the app.Revert to original boot. and then flash
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I tried: no way to install OTA, I had to wait for the full rom, and dirty flashed it via TWRP without a problem.
Then I rerooted.
Bye!
ok i seem to be getting the run around on where i need to be to ask my question(s)
i am very interested in systemless root....
that being said i am clueless and all info i am findingis just super confusing me.
if someone could humor a noob to systemless rooting that would be greatly appreciated!!
i recently bought 2 new phone for my household, both are the lg tribute hd (also called lg x style)
one click root and pc method of kingoroot etc dont work... i cant locate a twrp or a cwm for this model easily by searching so i am assuming there isnt one (maybe someone could located or help to build one?)- or maybe im not tech smart enough and i can use any?(i dont think so)
model is lg ls675,android 6.0.1, kernel version 3.10.49, build # MXB48T, software is ls676zv3
main reason at the moment for trying to get root is to remove bloatware and to be able to wifi tether without limitations buy the provider, on ther phone that i have obtained root on i used an app called WIFI Tether Router which works beautifully but requires root...
please help as this is how we use our computer with internet and its beneficial all the way around especially to get rid of bloatware and keep device running smoothly...
thanks again for any help. greatly appreciated.
if im not in the right thread please kindly direct me to the correct one. thanks
can someone give me steps or link how to flash MM?
I am on 6.0.1 without twrp and just want to factory flash image
thanks
fromgeorgia said:
How to Flash 6.0.1 MM
can someone give me steps or link how to flash MM?
I am on 6.0.1 without twrp and just want to factory flash image
thanks
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You are already on 6.0.1 Marshmallow. You said it yourself. You said you even still have stock recovery. So, seems like you don't need to do anything?
Maybe you wrote something wrong or left something out? Please clarify, and we'll be glad to help if we can.
ChazzMatt said:
You are already on 6.0.1 Marshmallow. You said it yourself. You said you even still have stock recovery. So, seems like you don't need to do anything?
Maybe you wrote something wrong or left something out? Please clarify, and we'll be glad to help if we can.
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you are right i am, but phone crashes and when receiving phone calls and restarts sometimes so i want to try to reflash it. thanks
fromgeorgia said:
you are right i am, but phone crashes and when receiving phone calls and restarts sometimes so i want to try to reflash it. thanks
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OK, then you need to flash this via RSDLite or ADB.
[FXZ] Official Stock Firmware 6.0.1 MCG24.251-5-5
https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr...-official-stock-firmware-6-0-1-mcg24-t3569334
You can google how to download/use RSDLite or ADB. But that's the most recent stock firmware you need to flash with either of those tools.
ChazzMatt said:
OK, then you need to flash this via RSDLite or ADB.
[FXZ] Official Stock Firmware 6.0.1 MCG24.251-5-5
https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr...-official-stock-firmware-6-0-1-mcg24-t3569334
You can google how to download/use RSDLite or ADB. But that's the most recent stock firmware you need to flash with either of those tools.
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i've tried RSDLite but it was unable to detect the phone(drivers was right and phone was in recovery).
i will try ADB than. with ADB should i flash every partition manually?
fromgeorgia said:
i've tried RSDLite but it was unable to detect the phone(drivers was right and phone was in recovery).
i will try ADB than. with ADB should i flash every partition manually?
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As far as I know you need to be on the bootloader screen, not recovery screen. Maybe that was your problem? RSDLite just automates a bunch of stuff ADB does.
Also, sometimes you need to use msfastboot instead of fastboot commands. I sort of remember why, but I don't want to state anything incorrectly. But try msfastboot if fastboot doesn't work.
For ROMs I use TWRP, so I'm not an ADB expert -- but I have used it. However, it's been over two years since I've had to flash a full firmware image via ADB (but I have flashed individual elements since then like modems, boot logos, etc.), so I'm just going to say yes flash every partition manually.
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As far as I know you need to be on the bootloader screen, not recovery screen. Maybe that was your problem? RSDLite just automates a bunch of stuff ADB does.
Also, sometimes you need to use msfastboot instead of fastboot commands. I sort of remember why, but I don't want to state anything incorrectly. But try msfastboot if fastboot doesn't work.
It's been over two years since I've had to flash a full firmware image via ADB (but I have flashed individual elements since then), so I'm just going to say yes flash every partition manually.
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thanks you're good man :good::laugh: