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[Q] Error while installing 5.0.1 update

Hi I just got the 5.0.1 update, I downloaded it and the phone rebooted itself, I got the installation screen and after 5 seconds I just got the word "error" and I had to restart it manually; the device is rooted, have anyone else had this problem? I would appreciate your help

saman0suke1 said:
Hi I just got the 5.0.1 update, I downloaded it and the phone rebooted itself, I got the installation screen and after 5 seconds I just got the word "error" and I had to restart it manually; the device is rooted, have anyone else had this problem? I would appreciate your help
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With lollipop you can't take an OTA if you are rooted or running just about anything else modified (custom kernels, like ones that have force decrypt disabled also will cause it to error out).
You can still flash it manually by flashing the images. If you don't want to wipe, don't flash the userdata.img . Also, if you aren't currently encrypted, booting up with the stock kernel will force encrypt your device, so don't flash that if you want to stay that way. You can then re-root. There are more in depth instructions for doing this out there if you search around for them.

My Nexus 6 took 5.0.1 just fine, but my Nexus 7 does this same thing, running stock ROM/Bootloader/Recovery/etc. The ONLY thing done to it is the Fastboot OEM unlock, but I doubt that alone would stop it. I'm curious to know what resolves this ( other than downloading the factory image and flashing it without wiping the userdata )

Just got same error. I didnt even root phone, bought it today, it installed apps from backup of my previous Nexus 4 and OTA is failing.

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With lollipop you can't take an OTA if you are rooted or running just about anything else modified (custom kernels, like ones that have force decrypt disabled also will cause it to error out).
You can still flash it manually by flashing the images. If you don't want to wipe, don't flash the userdata.img . Also, if you aren't currently encrypted, booting up with the stock kernel will force encrypt your device, so don't flash that if you want to stay that way. You can then re-root. There are more in depth instructions for doing this out there if you search around for them.
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So basically the only way is to flash the image manually? If I choose not to flash userdata.img my phone data (photos, contacts, apps, etc) won't be erased right? But I will lose root correct? Thanks!

saman0suke1 said:
So basically the only way is to flash the image manually? If I choose not to flash userdata.img my phone data (photos, contacts, apps, etc) won't be erased right? But I will lose root correct? Thanks!
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Correct, with Lollipop if you modify things you basically are then forced to manually take the updates. Not that big of a deal as you would likely be needing a PC to reinstall your custom recovery or re-root anyhow after the update.
Flashing userdata.img isn't necessary to update. Neither is recovery.img if you want to keep a custom recovery.
Also as I mentioned before, if you have disabled encryption on your device, if you flash the stock kernel (boot.img) and boot up with it you will re-enable forced encryption. You will need to flash a kernel with force encryption disabled if you want to keep running without encryption. If you haven't disabled encryption, or don't care if your device re-encrypts (this doesn't erase anything, just may take a few minutes on first boot) then this doesn't matter.

cupfulloflol said:
Correct, with Lollipop if you modify things you basically are then forced to manually take the updates. Not that big of a deal as you would likely be needing a PC to reinstall your custom recovery or re-root anyhow after the update.
Flashing userdata.img isn't necessary to update. Neither is recovery.img if you want to keep a custom recovery.
Also as I mentioned before, if you have disabled encryption on your device, if you flash the stock kernel (boot.img) and boot up with it you will re-enable forced encryption. You will need to flash a kernel with force encryption disabled if you want to keep running without encryption. If you haven't disabled encryption, or don't care if your device re-encrypts (this doesn't erase anything, just may take a few minutes on first boot) then this doesn't matter.
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Can I manually update without removing root first? Am I going to receive an error if I don't remove it? based on what you said, I will remove userdata.img and recovery.img and that will not wipe my data right? Do I have to decompress those files or the flash-all.bat will take care of that? Thanks!

saman0suke1 said:
Can I manually update without removing root first? Am I going to receive an error if I don't remove it? based on what you said, I will remove userdata.img and recovery.img and that will not wipe my data right? Do I have to decompress those files or the flash-all.bat will take care of that? Thanks!
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I'm interested as well. Mine is rooted and I have encryption disabled, and I have TWRP on my phone. I tried to sideload the OTA update, but I can't get my phone to start sideload. I even flashed the stock recovery to get it to go, and no dice. What do I do next?

Anyone? I would appreciate the feedback, thanks!

sideload refers to adb as I understand it. thats NOT how you flash....you use fastboot to flash so you can do it all by hand or use one of the toolkits that script it for you.

cmh714 said:
sideload refers to adb as I understand it. thats NOT how you flash....you use fastboot to flash so you can do it all by hand or use one of the toolkits that script it for you.
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Thanks, I get that, however I wanted to know if I need to remove the root before installing the update and if I need to decompress the .zip with the .img files or the batch will do that? thanks!

saman0suke1 said:
Thanks, I get that, however I wanted to know if I need to remove the root before installing the update and if I need to decompress the .zip with the .img files or the batch will do that? thanks!
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If your doing from the PC you need to extract the zip file from within the image and then fastboot them. As for root, when you do it from fastboot I dont believe it matters as you will lose root anyway and need to re-root via flashing SuperSU.zip

Worked great! Thanks! Android 5.0.1 and root, no data deleted

Is it normal to not have received an update beyond 5.0? I have had a Nexus 6 since day one, no rooting of any kind and I have not received 5.0.1.
I have done the sideload method, but I really don't want to bother with it. I do however want some of these terrible bugs I am experiencing squashed. This phone is giving me lots of issues lately.
Thanks!

Can you receive and install OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader? Everything else is stock, no disabled encryption or anything just unlocked bootloader.

naulsballs said:
Can you receive and install OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader? Everything else is stock, no disabled encryption or anything just unlocked bootloader.
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Yes
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app

saman0suke1 said:
Worked great! Thanks! Android 5.0.1 and root, no data deleted
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Can you provide steps for this. I am in the same situation. I have the 5.0.1 image downloaded, just wondering what files and what order to flash. Thanks

TOCS88 said:
Is it normal to not have received an update beyond 5.0? I have had a Nexus 6 since day one, no rooting of any kind and I have not received 5.0.1.
I have done the sideload method, but I really don't want to bother with it. I do however want some of these terrible bugs I am experiencing squashed. This phone is giving me lots of issues lately.
Thanks!
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Try pulling your Sim card out and rebooting.

scotbotmosh said:
Can you provide steps for this. I am in the same situation. I have the 5.0.1 image downloaded, just wondering what files and what order to flash. Thanks
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If you're planning to stay rooted (meaning no OTA in future) system.img, boot.img and radio.img in any order.

scotbotmosh said:
Can you provide steps for this. I am in the same situation. I have the 5.0.1 image downloaded, just wondering what files and what order to flash. Thanks
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If you use fastboot, just run these commands in terminal (I used windows, so in order to flash using fastboot, put the image that you downloaded for the update in the same folder where you have fastboot and open a terminal there) you can rename the .img files to whatever you like and replace those name in the commands below:
fastboot flash bootloader <bootloader file name here>.img
fastboot flash radio <radio file name here>.img
Then reboot it:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
Then flash these:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
And that's it. These commands are run while the phone is connected to the PC, you have to turn it on by pressing volume up + volume down + power.
Good luck.

[Q] OTA Updates on Rooted XT1095 (Stock Recovery)

I recently followed this guide to root my XT1095. All I did was unlock my bootloader and boot the image...I did not (intentionally) alter my recovery, nor did I install a custom ROM. Will I still receive OTA update notifications and, if so, are they safe to apply?

Dan Again said:
I recently followed this guide to root my XT1095. All I did was unlock my bootloader and boot the image...I did not (intentionally) alter my recovery, nor did I install a custom ROM. Will I still receive OTA update notifications and, if so, are they safe to apply?
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If you are running a custom recovery TWRP for example, I doubt that you will get OTA updates. I believe you need the stock recovery to be able to install OTA updates.

grneyez said:
If you are running a custom recovery TWRP for example, I doubt that you will get OTA updates. I believe you need the stock recovery to be able to install OTA updates.
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I'm a little confused by your response. As I said in my original question, I did not (intentionally) alter my recovery. Did the method that I used achieve root alter my recovery for me?

If you did not install a custom recovery than you should be able to get OTA updates. Check to see what recovery you have.

Dan Again said:
I'm a little confused by your response. As I said in my original question, I did not (intentionally) alter my recovery. Did the method that I used achieve root alter my recovery for me?
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As long as you don't make any changes to /system, you *should* be good to go for updates. If you didn't intentionally flash a custom recovery then you still have the stock one.

If you're rooted OTAs won't work. In KitKat and lower they just performed checksums on each file before updating, so the altered root files were left untouched and the update installed. In Lollipop and up (at least for Nexus devices), it does a total checksum and if /system has been altered in any way (including for root) OTA's won't install.

grneyez said:
If you did not install a custom recovery than you should be able to get OTA updates. Check to see what recovery you have.
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Thanks for all the responses, guys. I booted into recovery and saw this, so I think my recovery is still stock. One quick question: when I boot into fastboot and select "Recovery", I get a dead Android and a "No Command" prompt - I had to follow these steps to actually get there. Why is that?
I'd like to try out Xposed now that it's available for my device, and I see that requires a custom recovery. If I install a custom recovery (TWRP, for instance) and use it to flash Xposed, can I then revert back to stock recovery and continue to receive OTA updates?

Dan Again said:
Thanks for all the responses, guys. I booted into recovery and saw this, so I think my recovery is still stock. One quick question: when I boot into fastboot and select "Recovery", I get a dead Android and a "No Command" prompt - I had to follow these steps to actually get there. Why is that?
I'd like to try out Xposed now that it's available for my device, and I see that requires a custom recovery. If I install a custom recovery (TWRP, for instance) and use it to flash Xposed, can I then revert back to stock recovery and continue to receive OTA updates?
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If you modified your system with Xposed you won't be able to install OTA updates. Even if you return yo stock recovery.
To install an OTA you need three things. 1. Unaltered system, 2.no root and 3. stock recovery

juliospinoza said:
If you modified your system with Xposed you won't be able to install OTA updates. Even if you return yo stock recovery.
To install an OTA you need three things. 1. Unaltered system, 2.no root and 3. stock recovery
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Fair enough. So let's say that I install a custom recovery and then Xposed. Will there be a way that I can manually upgrade to new stock OS versions as they come out for my phone?

Dan Again said:
Fair enough. So let's say that I install a custom recovery and then Xposed. Will there be a way that I can manually upgrade to new stock OS versions as they come out for my phone?
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You can always flash a ROM or custom ROM via fast boot, but you will loss all your settings, apps etc because you are flashing an entire new system... The OTA only patches

The only way back is to flash your stock ROM if you can get a hold of it.

floepie said:
The only way back is to flash your stock ROM if you can get a hold of it.
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So, funny story - this weekend I accidentally wiped my OS and had to flash stock ROM to get back up and running. See: here. Good resource for others who might be looking for Moto X 2014 stock Lollipop firmware...definitely saved that on my computer

juliospinoza said:
If you modified your system with Xposed you won't be able to install OTA updates. Even if you return yo stock recovery.
To install an OTA you need three things. 1. Unaltered system, 2.no root and 3. stock recovery
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Isn't there any way to uninstall Xposed, revert back to original recovery and remove root--all in order to install OTA without completely loosing user data and apps installed?

yurkennis said:
Isn't there any way to uninstall Xposed, revert back to original recovery and remove root--all in order to install OTA without completely loosing user data and apps installed?
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yes
just flash via fastboot
1. recovery (stock)
2. system
if your phone is 5.0 xt1095 and you didn't flash modems you should be able to receive OTA.

Repeat of Question
I'm not sure I completely understand what I need to do to get updated to 5.1. I have an XT1095 that I only rooted, no custom recovery. I downloaded the OTA for 5.1 last night and tried to update. Got an error and it did not update. A quick google search seems to state, as well as earlier in this thread, that I can not update if I am rooted. I would prefer not completely start over on my phone (wipe) and would like to just apply the update. Can I just "unroot" my phone and apply the update or do I have to go back to the beginning (with a stock recovery) before the update will take?
I know enough about all this to have followed the directions to accomplish the root about 7 months ago. Since then not played with any system files! The only reason I rooted was so I could use the full capabilities of Greenify. Any opinions on that would be appreciated as well. Thanks!

jhworth8 said:
I'm not sure I completely understand what I need to do to get updated to 5.1. I have an XT1095 that I only rooted, no custom recovery. I downloaded the OTA for 5.1 last night and tried to update. Got an error and it did not update. A quick google search seems to state, as well as earlier in this thread, that I can not update if I am rooted. I would prefer not completely start over on my phone (wipe) and would like to just apply the update. Can I just "unroot" my phone and apply the update or do I have to go back to the beginning (with a stock recovery) before the update will take?
I know enough about all this to have followed the directions to accomplish the root about 7 months ago. Since then not played with any system files! The only reason I rooted was so I could use the full capabilities of Greenify. Any opinions on that would be appreciated as well. Thanks!
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Try reading, the post literally before yours tells you what to do, lol.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

AGISCI said:
Try reading, the post literally before yours tells you what to do, lol.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
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I take it that flashing the recovery and the system.img files to the phone will not erase all the apps, photos, music, etc.?

summit15 said:
I take it that flashing the recovery and the system.img files to the phone will not erase all the apps, photos, music, etc.?
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Correct, it won't erase those things.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

so if i am just rooted, and custom recovery, could I unroot (via supersu app) and flash stock recovery and be good to go? or am i missing something?

yamahakid said:
so if i am just rooted, and custom recovery, could I unroot (via supersu app) and flash stock recovery and be good to go? or am i missing something?
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It's more difficult with Lollipop: updates now "look for" a completely stock unmodified unrooted system. So you'll have to flash a stock image of the current build and then take the OTA.

[Q] 5.1.1 OTA while rooted?

I've been receiving the prompt to update my N6 to 5.1.1 for the past few days, but whenever I attempt to install it, it says it's rebooting and does nothing. Is this because I'm rooted? Besides being rooted, there's no modifications to the system (well, except for Franco Kernel and MCR I suppose...). Is it even possible to update this way? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

greycobalt said:
I've been receiving the prompt to update my N6 to 5.1.1 for the past few days, but whenever I attempt to install it, it says it's rebooting and does nothing. Is this because I'm rooted? Besides being rooted, there's no modifications to the system (well, except for Franco Kernel and MCR I suppose...). Is it even possible to update this way? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Hi, no modifications to system (including recovery) or boot can be present for OTA to flash. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2992919

Evolution_Tech said:
Hi, no modifications to system (including recovery) or boot can be present for OTA to flash. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2992919
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Well that's a bummer! Thanks for the link. It looks like sideloading will still work, is that correct? If so, is it possible to sideload an update without wiping my data or factory resetting?

greycobalt said:
Well that's a bummer! Thanks for the link. It looks like sideloading will still work, is that correct? If so, is it possible to sideload an update without wiping my data or factory resetting?
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If your bootloader is unlocked, just do this:
Download the factory image for the new build you want.
Extract twice to end up with the bootloader, radio, boot, system, recovery, userdata, and cache images.
Flash each image individually with fastboot except for userdata.
You will be updated and won't lose data. Then, just flash TWRP again and then from TWRP, flash the superSU zip. You will be stock rooted, with TWRP recovery. All your data will remain.
If you try to flash official OTA via sideload, it will still fail because of root and custom recovery.

greycobalt said:
I've been receiving the prompt to update my N6 to 5.1.1 for the past few days, but whenever I attempt to install it, it says it's rebooting and does nothing. Is this because I'm rooted? Besides being rooted, there's no modifications to the system (well, except for Franco Kernel and MCR I suppose...). Is it even possible to update this way? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Hi hi. Made me smile. Thanks for that.

Evolution_Tech said:
If your bootloader is unlocked, just do this:
Download the factory image for the new build you want.
Extract twice to end up with the bootloader, radio, boot, system, recovery, userdata, and cache images.
Flash each image individually with fastboot except for userdata.
You will be updated and won't lose data. Then, just flash TWRP again and then from TWRP, flash the superSU zip. You will be stock rooted, with TWRP recovery. All your data will remain.
If you try to flash official OTA via sideload, it will still fail because of root and custom recovery.
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I will definitely do this! Thanks. They haven't posted the Verizon 5.1.1 to the image site yet, so I'll have to wait a bit I guess. :-/ Thanks!
Didgeridoohan said:
Hi hi. Made me smile. Thanks for that.
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LMY48I update error

Hey.
My N6 got an error after I tried to update. I saw somewhere that installing the update on a rooted device (stock everything, just root) would be successful but it would remove root. Tried and got the error message with the android guy and a warning sign or something like that just with the "error" text, no more. I unrooted and rebooted, after some time the update prompted again and tried, same result.
I did some searches and just a few people have commented this issue, no answers yet.
Any ideas?

OscarBrito said:
Hey.
My N6 got an error after I tried to update. I saw somewhere that installing the update on a rooted device (stock everything, just root) would be successful but it would remove root. Tried and got the error message with the android guy and a warning sign or something like that just with the "error" text, no more. I unrooted and rebooted, after some time the update prompted again and tried, same result.
I did some searches and just a few people have commented this issue, no answers yet.
Any ideas?
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Has to be completely stock. No root, custom kernel or recovery. How did you unroot. Have to flash factory image to remove root. Can't just remove the app. Forget OTAs if you are gonna root. Have to reflash factory image anyway so might as well just flash the updated image.

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prdog1 said:
Has to be completely stock. No root, custom kernel or recovery. How did you unroot. Have to flash factory image to remove root. Can't just remove the app. Forget OTAs if you are gonna root. Have to reflash factory image anyway so might as well just flash the updated image.
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I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.

OscarBrito said:
I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
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Your system is still modified. Even if remove the files the partition has been modified. If you have custom recovery or kernel it also won't flash. Have to flash back to stock so might as well just fastboot the updated factory image.

OscarBrito said:
I did with King Root, that thing works like a charm, Here's the thread. It has an option to remove root, the root manager disappeared, I rebooted and checked with a root checker and it says that I'm not rooted, still I get the error message when trying to update.
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None of the unroot options put things back to 100% stock. They just remove root. The only way to remove all traces is to fastboot flash the system.img
If you're going to run rooted, forget about OTA and learn about fastboot.
General > sticky roll-up > adb and fastboot

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Your system is still modified. Even if remove the files the partition has been modified. If you have custom recovery or kernel it also won't flash. Have to flash back to stock so might as well just fastboot the updated factory image.
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Can I backup, do a factory data reset and then do the update? Then root again and restore my stuff.

OscarBrito said:
Can I backup, do a factory data reset and then do the update? Then root again and restore my stuff.
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Nope. Have to flash stock image as posted above.

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Nope. Have to flash stock image as posted above.
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Dang. I don't like to mess with flashing and custom recoveries but I guess now I most.
I'm looking at Flashify. Download the stock image with the patch already on it and flash it that way. Do you recommend doing it that way?
Another thing, Any good and simple backup tool? I just want to skip the part where I need to configure everything again.

OscarBrito said:
Dang. I don't like to mess with flashing and custom recoveries but I guess now I most.
I'm looking at Flashify. Download the stock image with the patch already on it and flash it that way. Do you recommend doing it that way?
Another thing, Any good and simple backup tool? I just want to skip the part where I need to configure everything again.
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You can't flash the stock image with flashify. Use fastboot as I have already advised.
Titanium backup is a great backup app, but you won't wipe the device if you only flash the system.img, boot.img and radio.img

danarama said:
You can't flash the stock image with flashify. Use fastboot as I have already advised.
Titanium backup is a great backup app, but you won't wipe the device if you only flash the system.img, boot.img and radio.img
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Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.

OscarBrito said:
Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
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Fastboot works with Linux also.

OscarBrito said:
Sorry for so many questions mate, but I run linux and for reasons I try to avoid getting into my W8 partition.
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No worries. Linux is even easier. You just stick the fastboot binaries in /usr/bin
Note, you'll probably need to use sudo / su to call fastboot.

danarama said:
No worries. Linux is even easier. You just stick the fastboot binaries in /usr/bin
Note, you'll probably need to use sudo / su to call fastboot.
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If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.

OscarBrito said:
If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
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Better chance of bricking it with ToolKit than with manual fastboot. I run stock rooted with TWRP also. Takes 2-3 minutes to update with fastboot. If toolkit fails will most likely need fastboot to fix it anyway.

OscarBrito said:
If all this stuff is needed I better go all in and get AOSiP.
Gonna do it with Nexus Root Toolkit, get TWRP and flash the ROM.
I'm kinda new to this kind of stuff, I use ArchLinux and mess with my computer like there's no tomorrow but doing stuff with a phone can brick it. So, any last advice?
Thanks both in advance.
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Don't use toolkits unless you can use fastboot..so just use fastboot. I'm not saying this for fun you know...if anything, its quite boring having to say this to everyone on a daily basis
Use fastboot please. Read my fastboot thread. You understand that fastboot is Googles method for flashing Google android on the google nexus? It should be pretty clear that this is the best tool for the job.

danarama said:
Don't use toolkits unless you can use fastboot..so just use fastboot. I'm not saying this for fun you know...if anything, its quite boring having to say this to everyone on a daily basis
Use fastboot please. Read my fastboot thread. You understand that fastboot is Googles method for flashing Google android on the google nexus? It should be pretty clear that this is the best tool for the job.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not afraid of a terminal, but well, you are right going with a terminal rather than a tool.
I'm finishing my backup and then doing all this manually, thanks a lot, both.

OscarBrito said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not afraid of a terminal, but well, you are right going with a terminal rather than a tool.
I'm finishing my backup and then doing all this manually, thanks a lot, both.
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I can't see how any Linux user would be afraid of terminals

Yeap, just tried to Flash my Super Awesome Nexus 5 with the LMY48I Update Zip file (10mb), via TWRP, while Rooted and I got the Nice Red Error... So I guess I have to download the Factory image LMY48I and via fastboot just flash the system.img if nothing else has been modified since LMY48B... In case I loose Root Access I might just reflash the script via TWRP... I will post update if anyone interested...

imor said:
Yeap, just tried to Flash my Super Awesome Nexus 5 with the LMY48I Update Zip file (10mb), via TWRP, while Rooted and I got the Nice Red Error... So I guess I have to download the Factory image LMY48I and via fastboot just flash the system.img if nothing else has been modified since LMY48B... In case I loose Root Access I might just reflash the script via TWRP... I will post update if anyone interested...
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You will lose root. Flash supersu from recovery before first boot

Ok, just confirming here before I mess up. I have an international N6 rooted with stock recovery running LMY47Z. I can't update OTA. So I should flash the full stock image and then run cf-auto-root before rebooting.
Is this correct? Will I lose my user data when I do this? If so, what's the easiest way to backup and restore? Can't I flash the 25MB update .zip instead?
Thanks!

Systemless root (Android 6.0) - Method for easy future OTA updates

I am looking for an easy way to be able to receive OTA updates after rooting with the 'systemless' root method, the steps I mention below assume that the system partition remains untouched after rooting. I have searched and not found a clear answer on this.
Would I be correct in assuming that this procedure should work to receive an OTA update and keep stock recovery after rooting?
Start with completely stock Android 6.0
fastboot boot twrp-recovery.img (boot TWRP, NOT flash, to maintain stock recovery after rooting)
Flash systemless root with TWRP
OTA arrives (Android 6.0.1 for example)
fastboot flash boot boot.img (with stock 6.0 kernel, root lost)
Accept & install OTA update
Success?
So unless I am missing something, this method would leave the system in a stock, unrooted state after the OTA is installed, and could be repeated for future updates. Anybody have any experience with this yet?

Sounds like it will work, but why mess with the ota? More work and risk honestly.
Since you're already using fastboot just flash the newest boot and system.img. Then flash/boot twrp and flash su like you'd need to do anyway. Done. You don't lose anything flashing system.

yosmokinman said:
Sounds like it will work, but why mess with the ota? More work and risk honestly.
Since you're already using fastboot just flash the newest boot and system.img. Then flash/boot twrp and flash su like you'd need to do anyway. Done. You don't lose anything flashing system.
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That is true, kind of just wondering/gathering information. It just seemed like with the new root method, OTA would be possible and less risky than before.
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@quakeaz there is one step missing on your guide. After boot.img you also have to flash stock recovery.img. From Lollipop, Google is also checking installed recovery, and for successful OTA, it has to be stock as well.
Otherwise, your guide should work, I've done same thing with my Nexus 5 and 7 for like last 3 months.

Srandista said:
@quakeaz there is one step missing on your guide. After boot.img you also have to flash stock recovery.img. From Lollipop, Google is also checking installed recovery, and for successful OTA, it has to be stock as well.
Otherwise, your guide should work, I've done same thing with my Nexus 5 and 7 for like last 3 months.
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Thanks for your reply, but I intentionally left that step out, due to step 2 in my list. By only booting TWRP, instead of flashing, I assume stock recovery will remain after rooting.
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quakeaz said:
Thanks for your reply, but I intentionally left that step out, due to step 2 in my list. By only booting TWRP, instead of flashing, I assume stock recovery will remain after rooting.
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Ah, sorry, I overlooked that.
Since I have flashed TWRP instead of stock recovery, I'm going by same process as you write, just reflash stock recovery. And can confirm, that the process is indeed working (no need to install system.img, as with previous system-based SuperSU).

Sounds good!
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quakeaz said:
I am looking for an easy way to be able to receive OTA updates after rooting with the 'systemless' root method, the steps I mention below assume that the system partition remains untouched after rooting. I have searched and not found a clear answer on this.
Would I be correct in assuming that this procedure should work to receive an OTA update and keep stock recovery after rooting?
Start with completely stock Android 6.0
fastboot boot twrp-recovery.img (boot TWRP, NOT flash, to maintain stock recovery after rooting)
Flash systemless root with TWRP
OTA arrives (Android 6.0.1 for example)
fastboot flash boot boot.img (with stock 6.0 kernel, root lost)
Accept & install OTA update
Success?
So unless I am missing something, this method would leave the system in a stock, unrooted state after the OTA is installed, and could be repeated for future updates. Anybody have any experience with this yet?
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Instead of fastboot flashing boot.img, you can use "Settings --> Full Unroot" in SuperSU. During SuperSU systemless flash, your old boot image is backed up. Among other things, the full unroot option will restore the backup, assuming it hasn't been lost due to a factory reset and whatnot.
On many firmwares, this procedure also restores stock recovery. This requires that both the firmware supports recreating the recovery from the boot image plus a patch file (most do), and that TWRP did not remove said patch file (which some versions do).
That being said, if you're using fastboot anyway, flashing boot, recovery, system and vendor manually is always the safest thing before an OTA.

Thanks for the info. So I take it while using systemless root, installing ota without unrooting is a big nono? The January ota just downloaded and is asking me to install, should I do it manually?

Chainfire said:
Instead of fastboot flashing boot.img, you can use "Settings --> Full Unroot" in SuperSU. During SuperSU systemless flash, your old boot image is backed up. Among other things, the full unroot option will restore the backup, assuming it hasn't been lost due to a factory reset and whatnot.
On many firmwares, this procedure also restores stock recovery. This requires that both the firmware supports recreating the recovery from the boot image plus a patch file (most do), and that TWRP did not remove said patch file (which some versions do).
That being said, if you're using fastboot anyway, flashing boot, recovery, system and vendor manually is always the safest thing before an OTA.
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Thank you for this thread and the procedure. I tried myself to avoid as much as possible to use a computer for super easy OTA update. But there is always one obligatory step: to root the phone.
Phone systemless rooted (2.66) - TWRP installed - OTA arrives.
In SuperSu app : Fully unroot
Install OTA - success
Fastboot boot (or install) TWRP
Flash superSu 2.66.zip
And that's it!
My question is the following: Does it exist a possibility to load on step 3. something that could flash superSu.zip from within the phone, no computer required?
Maybe FlashFire? I guess not, for it needs root and the point is to flash a rooting zip... You see the loop there...
Would it be theoreticaly possible at all?

Judim said:
Maybe FlashFire? I guess not, for it needs root and the point is to flash a rooting zip... You see the loop there...
Would it be theoreticaly possible at all?
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Yes, this is one of the use-cases of FlashFire. I just haven't finished updating it to 6.0 yet.

Oh nice!
I didn't know it cause I never had the chance to try out FlashFire.
Thanks so much for everything you do for the Android community!
Cheers!

Srandista said:
Ah, sorry, I overlooked that.
Since I have flashed TWRP instead of stock recovery, I'm going by same process as you write, just reflash stock recovery. And can confirm, that the process is indeed working (no need to install system.img, as with previous system-based SuperSU).
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mine fail here. i previously got systemless root 2.62, blu spark kernel and twrp. fastboot flash stock boot and recovery. reboot to update and it fail. any idea why?

ShanxRoux said:
mine fail here. i previously got systemless root 2.62, blu spark kernel and twrp. fastboot flash stock boot and recovery. reboot to update and it fail. any idea why?
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Did you modify system?
Try flashing system, boot, and recovery.
Then try again.

Hi, I have a Oneplus One and today has been released an OTA, so I tried the method. I have COS13 JK (latest full rom) firmware, with systemless 2.84beta supersu and twrp.
The only apps that have root access are AdAway and Greenify (without mods to system apps). No Busybox installed.
I reverted via fastboot to original JK boot.img and recovery.img, and restored, via Adaway, the original hosts file, then I applied the OTA via stock Cyano Recovery, but update failed ("system partition has unexpected contents" error).
Why?
Thanks.

you have to unroot first from the app.Revert to original boot. and then flash
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caldent said:
you have to unroot first from the app.Revert to original boot. and then flash
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I tried: no way to install OTA, I had to wait for the full rom, and dirty flashed it via TWRP without a problem.
Then I rerooted.
Bye!

ok i seem to be getting the run around on where i need to be to ask my question(s)
i am very interested in systemless root....
that being said i am clueless and all info i am findingis just super confusing me.
if someone could humor a noob to systemless rooting that would be greatly appreciated!!
i recently bought 2 new phone for my household, both are the lg tribute hd (also called lg x style)
one click root and pc method of kingoroot etc dont work... i cant locate a twrp or a cwm for this model easily by searching so i am assuming there isnt one (maybe someone could located or help to build one?)- or maybe im not tech smart enough and i can use any?(i dont think so)
model is lg ls675,android 6.0.1, kernel version 3.10.49, build # MXB48T, software is ls676zv3
main reason at the moment for trying to get root is to remove bloatware and to be able to wifi tether without limitations buy the provider, on ther phone that i have obtained root on i used an app called WIFI Tether Router which works beautifully but requires root...
please help as this is how we use our computer with internet and its beneficial all the way around especially to get rid of bloatware and keep device running smoothly...
thanks again for any help. greatly appreciated.
if im not in the right thread please kindly direct me to the correct one. thanks