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Hi everyone. My battery life is really sucks. I bought my item two days ago. It is new. And I upgrade my version and baseband , kernel and build version like below :
N70000XXLB2
2.6.35.7-N7000XXLC1-CL1003701 [email protected]#2
GINGERBREAD.XXLC1
I think that this version xxlc1 is last version but I wonder how is my kernel version ?
Battery life is very bad.
Moreover Charging lasts so long. 3 -4 hours sometimes.
PLEASE Help me! please
depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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depends in the usage, rom, kernel, settings etc you are using.
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when i see some kind of usage experiences, I am so jealous. How they use this much ? HOW. I only use wifi and radio.
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
letters_to_cleo said:
Hi,
What is your battery life on the Note? Does it last a day even two?. If it does, then that is pretty much normal. You whine on a phone that you just use for only 2 days? Stop whining and complaining. You havent have had utilize the full charge and recharge cycles of your battery and now your whining already.. Man, give your Note a week or two and your battery life will be okay.
Hmm.. Is this the first time you use an android device? What phone where you using.before? If you we're using a non android device e.g. Symbian or etc. Then my reaction to your complains (of your Note) is justifiable. Symbian for the fact has always been known to be very good or decent in terms of battery life.
Now android OS, is known throughout (irregardless what smartphone/tablet you have) to have the AOS bug. It is a bug where there's some sort of a battery leak and hencefort most android users tend to root their phones so that they can stop background stock applications from running in the background. The births of custom ROMS and Kernels have given some tremendous wonders also especially on phone's UI and more so on battery management.
Again. Stop complaining and go down root your phone and install battery saving apps or custom ROMs. It's all over the thread anyway.
The sooner you customise your phone to your heart's content, the better you can appreciate it's full potentials.
Cheers!!!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
to get battery life you either
a) dont use your phone or
b) get information to use your phone more wisely
So..
a) download a battery monitor.. there are a bunch recommended..
b) read the other 200 threads on battery life and dont start another one. Each and every question has been asked and answered ad nauseum
while you are figuring out root, and task killers, here are a few easy tips to help..particularly when you are putting the phone down for a while
apps>task manager>active apps> CLOSE ALL
apps>task manager> RAM> CLEAR MEMORY
settings>applications>running services> review and shut down apps/games that may be running in background (and that are not critical)
Again.... RESEARCH the forum.. the answers are already here. and you should read and post in existing threads
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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You could also have a defective battery.
On my iPhone 4, my first of 4 that were faulty, battery life depleted in less than 12 hours of STANDBY only on wifi, nothing syncing. Only being on. Battery life was so bad.
It's not uncommon to get a dud battery sometimes.
Try doing a complete restore, stock EVERYTHING, don't push anything (except email, cal, and contacts, you know, the basics) and see if you're having the same results. If on a fresh, stock, install you're having the same issues, then you've got a defective unit and/or battery.
Hope I've helped.
eediz said:
My battery life is 5 - 6 hours. I am accept 12 hours. I wish it last 12 hours. Before I used Iphone4, it is not so long for battery life , however it is acceptable. I did not understand how notes's battery life so short.
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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There are quite decent custom roms for the Note. I have tried many gingerbread versions (Chracks, rocketrom, cassies etc) currently on chrack's v18 small (LC1) with speedmod latest kernel.
I have not faced performance issues on this. But each user is different so u r the boss.
Best give the custom kernels a try for now. If u find the battery life better then ur problem is solved. The advantage of custom rom is that so much useless bloatware in the stock is removed for better space mgt & performance.
have provided some tips in the following link, feel free to go thru.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600691
eediz said:
Moreover I can not use custom rom. because they r not good as well as stock rom. ALl of them have some problems. But I can change my kernel.
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dude, you are ridiculing some of the well known devs who have made custom ROMS for all to appreciate and use. IF there was and is a problem on a particular custom ROM, it is or might be cause indirectly on the user itself, on what apps he/she insatalled on his phone. Surely you cannot generalize all custom ROMS have problems do you? if all have problems, the devs have some new revisions to fix those bugs and in no time at all your Note would be in tip-top shape again.
If as what you say, Custom Roms have problems.... then why the heck most people I know have used them and have big wide grin on their face to show off what they have and even posting a copy of their latest ROM pictures here... not to mentioned in YouTube as well.
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
go read the threads on battery performance.. loading a new ROM will not fix problems if you do not know what you are doing.
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ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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Hi there.
I had the same issues but only after the update done on ICS.
I have over 140 different application and nearly all of them have been purchased.
What happens is that, when you are not using your phone it should go to "deep sleep". This allows your phone not to run any application and merely use any battery. Your problem probably come from somewhere in your setting an automatic update. That drains a lot....
I downloaded different application hoping that it would work out such as Juice Defender, watch dog and many others. After lots of research, I found out that it is not good for your phone to have an auto killer app or even an application that modifies the functions of other applications.
So I downloaded battery spy and cpu spy on "google play" and followed the instructions.
I needed a deeper analytic application "Kernel" and this was THE application that allowed my phone to go from 6-8 hour to 28 hours.
"Better battery stats", it's not free but was really worth the spending.
Google play chronological download
1) watch dog
2) battery spy
3) cpu spy
4) better battery stats
Good luck
I keep switching my cellphone off while not using, and same goes for wifi. Using it as a secondary phone as well. It lasts only 4-6 hours.. :S I keep closing background apps, and kill app once im done with it..
Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
eediz said:
ok. Which rom is the best stable than ? Which I should use ?
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If you like stock samsung looks try CleaNote 3.10 , very good n battery life , I get around one day backup with heavy usage and 2 days plus with moderate usage .
If like pure google , then try cm9 , very stable and quite good on battery back up .
And if you dont use 3g or 3.5 g or any such networks then select GSM only or use 2g networks only ( Settings -> under wireless and connectivity , More -> Mobile Networks )
Also keep your display brightness to minimum , control the brightness manually instead of auto brightness .
Turn off auto sync ( big advantage over battery ) .
Scan for running apps and cached apps and force stop the ones which you dont use .
Use titanium back up and freeze some of the bloatwares ( stock samsung apps ) or uninstall them , like readers hub , mydiary , they are **** .
And dont use task killers , they drain your battery . they may clear rom but some apps restart automatically and that needs more juice than running those apps . Hope all these suggestions help . From my experience with this phone
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Also be aware that in areas with bad network strenght, the GNote really suffers.
I normally have no complains (0,6-1,5% battery usage per hour) but where I am now, the GNote really works hard to keep the connection and my consumption easily goes to 4-6% in deep sleep and 15-20% when using it...
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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I didnt know that, My signal is usually 10-40%. I have bad signal strenght at home.
my battery decreases 1% in around 5 minutes of use or something. Today it lasted me 10% on standby for around 8-10hours.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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You need to purchase and install "better battery stats" and also install cpu spy (I'm assuming you're rooted) and use them to monitor your phone and battery in order to solve your issue. Google both and you'll find several good threads on xda about using and interpreting these apps, but if you get stuck post some screen shots from both and someone here can almost certainly help. There are a number of potential sources of such problems, generally rogue apps, and also a bug or two, but it is impossible to offer help without the details these apps would provide.
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Thanks for that, i will install it. By the way i got the "battery widget" installed, which has gained popularity on the market.
Also im only using 9% of brightness of my phone.
I'm using a rooted stock 4.0.3 and I'm finding battery life its pretty good - better than unrooted GB was in fact. Simply freezing bloatware via titanium and limiting sync on some (not all) apps and services makes a gigantic difference. Design your phone around your own needs and you'll end up with an amazing device that you'll fall in love with all over again.
Sent from my gnote as always
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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SunHounD said:
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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Thanks for such a quick reply.
I'll tell you the scenario, as quick as i can make it.
had the phone 2 weeks, got it on a 24mnth contract ( i know, sigh)
anyway, updated it to JB (4.1.2?) through LG pc suite, but thought the battery life seemed to be worse, so i downgraded with LG flash tool, to ics.
after a F/reset, i rooted, then F/Reset again, but it seemed sluggish.
the long and short of it is, ive gone up to JB twice, and down to ICS twice, rooted and unrooted twice, disabled a whole HOST of stock bloatware, and am still left with similar results as posted in the pics.
ATM ive a clean ICS and im at a loss as to what to do. ive been reading all the threads about improving battery, culling the bloatware apps etc before i decided to post.
as for bootloader, i will probably do that sometime in the future, when im more knowledgeable on the subject. at present, i dont want to be left with a 2 year contract to a brick
thanks again,
ps: you say better battery stats is better than battery stats plus?...will download now, thanks
Sun
interesting situation. it's strange that sluggishness persisted between factory resets and .dz flashes back to 10x version.
first off, how does the phone behave when you're not using it? is it draining battery bad? is it going into deep sleep? what are the percentages of cpu states (you can check this in better battery stats, as battery stats plus seems to be too clunky for me to read proper info)?
if it's deep sleeping properly, then yeah, the issue is with something sucking up the juice while screen is on. next off, check cpu states - if it's locked at 1.5ghz often, when you have screen on but doing nothing, it's significant info.
what i've noticed with display, you can count up to 3:30 hours of onscreen time with stock rom (this is with very conservative use of wifi and data during this period, and no heavy gaming for example) - that's around 200 minutes of on screen time, meaning you should get around 2 minutes of screen on per 1% of reduction in battery - how far are you from this result?
i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
I would go the other way to be honest. If you do a full factory reset, install no apps, no Google account or anything and still get a similar problem with the battery drain then I would take the phone back for replacement as that is abnormal.
No point running a risk with your warranty when might be a hardware fault.
It's midnight here now so can't really test it till.morning now. When phone is in standby, it seems to hold.its juice ok. I'm sat here now, with nothing switched on except WiFi, screen at 23% brightness , and am just using tapatalk and I'm getting 2-3 mins per 1% screen. Less if I play in the menus. First thing tomorrow, I'll reset the phone again, before dl'ing any apps. Then I'll only download BBS and see how I get on. I'll also.monitor battery loss over night.
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after i wrote the above last night, i decided to watch a movie on my phone in bed.(headphones, dont wanna disturb the missus ) and i managed to watch a movie of 2hrs 10 mins, with 23% battery drain, on stock video player, yet just browsing through the phones menus/ light web surfing, eats the juice like crazy.
left phone off charge over night, and didnt even have a 1% drop in 7 hours (wifi off,sync off, data always off(dont use it)) and phone set to 2g mode
Sun
current set up
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
SunHounD said:
Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
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you can leave it alnoe during night to check if it deep sleeps properly, right now you're interested in cpu states option in bbs, to see if it uses too much cpu when doing normal tasks such as surfing, reading, watching/listening media etc. your goal is to get over 2 mins per 1% drain (in the end, over 3 hours of onscreen time with no heavy gaming). with those stats, your can say that your phone is draining normally, just that lg reports stupid stuff (f.e., stock roms report screen as using 20% of the battery, while in reality screen is using waaay more, the most actually)
Thanks Flying_Bear, I'll refrain from doing any more resets etc for the rest of the day, see how the readings progress and post on that tomorrow, after overnight analysis.
This piece of one of your previous posts just stuck in my mind:
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i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
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TBH, from everything I've been reading on it, it kind of scared me off the subject, but to see you say it was less complicated than what I've already done, has got me to thinking.
The biggest thing for me at the minute, before considering that, it to rule out faulty hardware. At least if thats the case, i still have warranty intact.
Is the performance increase really that noticeble after flashing custom kernels/roms?
Thanks again for your time,
Sun
no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
I think the only reason I would consider custom roms, is a performance increase.... If it wont give me one, then I see no point in going down that route.
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i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
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Totally agree, its why I refuse to enable data in the first place.
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
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when I took the original screenies, in OP, I didnt really have much in the way of apps on it. I'd not long before done a clean flash, then removed some of the bloatware that came with it.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
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At first yes... hey it was a new toy at the time. Novelty wore off about day 3 though.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
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yeah, it handled a movie quite well, I was quite pleased with this. When i said messing with the menu, I just meant exploring the phone; no custom/3rd party launchers, no messing with Dev stuff.
At the minute now, the only extra apps on my phone are XDA Dev app, tapatalk4, BBS, TB-pro and root uninstaller pro.
Oh, and can I ask.... aside form the ability to "pimp" your phone out, or the extra customization, is there any benefit to flashing custom roms? As it cant be for better performance....
thanks
Sun
LamerDuck said:
no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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Hi Flying_ Bear, can you pl confirm what combo of rom and kernel is giving you 3 hr 37 min of screen on time and which ones to avoid (ones that gave you 2 hrs)?
Carbon rom 4.2.2 version with iodak v7 had the best onsceen. Id say stock was worst, 2hrs 45mins of onscreen with no gaming and low brightness, with stock kernel
I recently picked up a Moto G 2014 for a family member since it was on sale and I'm having a bit of trouble, at least I think I am. This person hardly uses the phone, doesn't make calls every day but putters around on it, listens to music occasionally. Real basic use stuff. The battery only seems to last a day. In trying to diagnose/troubleshoot it without rooting or voiding warranty, it seems like it's draining excessively. Just sitting with all the apps closed on the home screen, it's burning up about 180-210 mA according to Ampere. Now, my LG G2 reliably uses 30mA on the home screen without apps running. Apples & oranges, I know but shouldn't the value on the Moto G be lower? Does anyone else use Ampere and have similar readings? With the little use this phone sees, I'd imagine people that use it regularly have to charge multiple times a day to keep the phone alive and I can't see the Motorola engineers doing that. I've tried closing and disabling apps that aren't used and there doesn't seem to be much that goes on. So I'm not sure if this is normal or if something's wrong. I have done all the OTA updates and also tried a factory reset, it made no difference. I'm tempted to root & install the official CM but if there's something wrong with the phone, I want to get it fixed through Motorola first.
Any ideas for this Moto newbie? Thanks in advance.
Here's some screenshots of the battery stats in case anyone's curious:
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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/464376/phone/moto/Screenshot_2015-11-22-11-33-55.png
I'm getting 160-170 mA after clearing all the recent apps with CM 12.1. But battery life is not bad at all. About 1 day with 5+hours of SoT or 2-3days with 3+ hours of SoT. So I don't really care.
Ps.: I don't think that 30mA is enough for phone to run with screen ON. Maybe in sleep mode.. 30mA is way too small value. I also found an article about power consumption of smartphones: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.1896.pdf
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I'm getting 160-170 mA after clearing all the recent apps with CM 12.1. But battery life is not bad at all. About 1 day with 5+hours of SoT or 2-3days with 3+ hours of SoT. So I don't really care.
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That sounds significantly better than what my Moto G is getting. I doubt the phone sees 2 hours of SoT in a day but the battery barely lasts a day. I'm hoping it's just hoggy apps and that CM will clean things up.
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Ps.: I don't think that 30mA is enough for phone to run with screen ON. Maybe in sleep mode.. 30mA is way too small value. I also found an article about power consumption of smartphones: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.1896.pdf
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I think you're right actually. Looking at the Ampere stats, it shows 30mA as the max draw, even after opening several apps and running. I thought this seemed right for idle but it's always stuck there under load.
Actually I had a similar problem with my Moto G on stock. Did you use GPS? Because when I turn on and off gps on my phone it remains ON and drains my battery pretty fast, until I restart my phone. So whenever I use GPS I have to turn it off in settings and restart my phone in order to turn it off.
OK so if u really want a decent battery life. Just turn of sync, location and keep scanning In advanced WiFi settings.
Since its showing Google services as culprit, turning sync off would probably solve the issue.
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Hey guys,
unfortunately there are no custom roms that fit my preferences. i took a deep look at the MXROM V8.0.0 and the Rock Z1L 4.0, but these two roms are not what i'm searching for. I want a rom that is really stable and doesn't run out of battery midday.
So i want to return back to Stock.
i would like to know how i get the best experience using the .236 stock rom in terms of battery life and smoothness.
What mods or apps can i use to have the best battery life and remove those annoying wakelocks?
What mods or apps can i use to have a lag free rom?
thanks in advance!
Khaludi
Z1 C6903 locked bootloader
What do you expect to hear?
My answer is: there is no global solutions we can give to your question. There are so many things you can do.
It all begins how you use your phone. Do you need the performance the phone offers all the time?
For example in my case no. I am no gamer at all. I use my phone the friendly way. Do some calls, some messaging, browse the Web, taking some photos. So I limit the phones cpu performance to 1.4 GHz. This for example saves battery.
Lollipop has got the active radio bug. You can get rid off it with the help of xposed framework.
You can for example Greenify apps to prevent high wakelocks.
Did you notice a massive difference between stock and MX in terms of battery? I tried both and had no noticeable difference.
Thank you for your replies!
I usually use my phone for browsing the internet, instant messaging, calling and 9gag. I'm not using my phone for games. Usually my screenbrightness is on very low.
With MX rom i had big drops while my phone was on stand by (from 70% to 63% in 4 hours). Screen on time was worse. Before i was on stock .216 and there was no big battery drops at all!
Greenyfy is a good start! What xposed module are you talking about for the radio active bug?
khaludi said:
Thank you for your replies!
I usually use my phone for browsing the internet, instant messaging, calling and 9gag. I'm not using my phone for games. Usually my screenbrightness is on very low.
With MX rom i had big drops while my phone was on stand by (from 70% to 63% in 4 hours). Screen on time was worse. Before i was on stock .216 and there was no big battery drops at all!
Greenyfy is a good start! What xposed module are you talking about for the radio active bug?
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Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3188147
khaludi said:
Thank you for your replies!
I usually use my phone for browsing the internet, instant messaging, calling and 9gag. I'm not using my phone for games. Usually my screenbrightness is on very low.
With MX rom i had big drops while my phone was on stand by (from 70% to 63% in 4 hours). Screen on time was worse. Before i was on stock .216 and there was no big battery drops at all!
Greenyfy is a good start! What xposed module are you talking about for the radio active bug?
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First of all, if you still have the original battery, it probably has lost at least 50% of its holding capacity or more. Second, when you say stand by, you are not telling us what apps or services are running. Third, the major contributors to wasting battery are Google apps, facebook, what's up and similar apps. Next comes sony bloat with all their albums and other crap. So, if you have them, your battery won't last.
I have used stock and all available custom roms. With the exception of a worse camera quality in low light conditions (no difference whatsoever in daylight), custom roms are vastly superior in all aspects. That also includes overheating. Yes, stock roms overheat more, because they won't let you use tools available in custom roms.
Greenify: although, it does the job, the app itself consumes battery, which negates the benefits. Also, remember that when you flash every other day, you don't give your current rom the time to settle, and that usually takes a couple of battery cycles when the rom works extra time setting/reading partitions and as a result, you will always have more heat and loss of battery juice. You won't let the rom settle and instead move to another rom and start the cycle again. This way, you will never find a suitable rom whether stock or custom.
If you prefer stock, then root, get rid of bloat, get a firewall and deny access to all apps, except the ones you want to connect to the internet. And stay with it for at least 10 days. But then, I promise, you will discover what I said above is true...
P.S. Radio active bug: the module does NOT fix the problem, it just changes the way it is reported. This is why neither Google nor Cyanogen people have accepted the patches, which irritated the hell out of that guy, who thinks he knows "the inner workings of android" better than others....
wow thanks a lot bredrin! Gonna try this when i reach home, except advanced kernel. I'm on locked bootloader.
Hi Everyone,
I have the Oneplus 10 pro China variant and flashed Indian ROM with Oxygen OS.. Everything is working well and very smooth to me, however, the battery life is terrible with this ROM.
I'm having about 4 hours of screen on time (SOT). It is very weird, because with Color OS I was having around 7 hours of SOT and it was great for me.
Does anyone know if EU Rom is better than Indian ROM in terms of battery life?
I also have noticed that the charging speed has decreased, even it showing that is charging at 80w.
Thanks
I saw this EU member post 11 hours SOT;
Apps & games
Any essential apps and games for rooted OP10 pro?
forum.xda-developers.com
11 Hours, wow. Does anyone else is having bad battery life on indian ROM?
Is it also possible to flash EU Rom using Fastboot Enhanced?
Quick update on the poor battery life , just discharge to 0 and keep it dead for at least 20 to 30min and then charge it back to 100 using the supervooc .. you will have your battery life back.. doing this just once is enough.
The only way to actually compare the battery between firmwares would be to have nothing on the phone besides the same SIM and then see what the SOT is and in the exact same location.
The main factor besides a crap firmware is the apps you're running, the signal efficiency and your habits.
Comparing your phone with mine without these variables taken into account would be comparing apples and oranges..
You can figure a ball park figure but there will always be things not taken into account and a how the hell you getting them times questions.
For me the 11 hours which was more like 10 hours 50+ was in my house, great signal and I streamline all my apps and push for more battery as a rule, so if there's an app on there I don't use or an app i could swap for something better then I'll do it, Facebook app - use web version etc etc.
It all adds up.
Here's me at 48% with very heavy usage.... Been playing arkanoid Vs space invaders for over an hour.
Steadily on the way to 10 hours.
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Here's me at 48% with very heavy usage.... Been playing arkanoid Vs space invaders for over an hour.
Steadily on the way to 10 hours.
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I still cannot understand hwo you can get that SOT even with that guide
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I still cannot understand hwo you can get that SOT even with that guide
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I can help you if you need it.
Let me ask you a few simple questions.
How many apps do you have installed?
How many mods?
How many social media apps?
What is your signal like where you are?
Do you charge overnight?
What launcher?
QHD or FHD?
This is my app usage.
Bare in mind the SOT listed is not from the length of the graph it's only from the last full charge which was around midnight last night.
I may make an SOT leaderboard thread...i had one of these on the OnePlus 5, on that device I managed 14 hours 47 minutes and I wasn't alone in SOT's like that either, I think this phone is capable of much much more.
My highest is 17 hours on a P20 Pro. Always provide proof and it's with normal usage.
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I can help you if you need it.
Let me ask you a few simple questions.
How many apps do you have installed?
How many mods?
How many social media apps?
What is your signal like where you are?
Do you charge overnight?
What launcher?
QHD or FHD?
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Ok, I know it would be the problem.
I got like 150 apps but I should probably remove those I dont need and I dont use.
8 magisk modules, then I got FB lite app, normal messenger, whatsapp, twitter, instagram, telegram, discord, XDA app.
I live in Czechia on LTE+
No, I dont charge overnight.
Using Nova launcher,
FHD.
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Ok, I know it would be the problem.
I got like 150 apps but I should probably remove those I dont need and I dont use.
8 magisk modules, then I got FB lite app, normal messenger, whatsapp, twitter, instagram, telegram, discord, XDA app.
I live in Czechia on LTE+
No, I dont charge overnight.
Using Nova launcher,
FHD.
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Lol ok so I think you know what I'm going to then don't you
Lose Facebook, use the web browser, not only are you stopping FB from spying on you, you'll be getting rid of an extremely heavy app, lite or not it's a battery rapist.
If you've seen the list of tips I sent to the other thread then honestly, just go through them, what's the worst that could happen?
If you don't use it then nuke it, lighten the load and let your phone stretch it's legs.
Think about it, two identical phones. One being looked after with not so many apps and kept light Vs a phone that's laden all the time, after a year or two. That extra work will be more and more apparent In regards to stamina.
Your phones super new, make a change now when it can still make a difference.
If you need help with anything let me know. If I was you I'd wipe the phone and start over.. don't add anything, just what you need and only when you need it, you'll be surprised what you don't use but you do install just from habit.
Also 8 Magisk modules?
What ones? I'm always on the look out for good modules. I'm using 3, two of them are for safety net and systemless, so only one really.
I'm on 88 apps total
Lol did a scrolling screenshot... Just wanted to see if it'll be visible
Edit: wow it did show, extremely well actually.. nice
Go through this little lot and if you still have bad battery life after doing even half of this then honestly i'm stumped.
Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
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Lol ok so I think you know what I'm going to then don't you
Lose Facebook, use the web browser, not only are you stopping FB from spying on you, you'll be getting rid of an extremely heavy app, lite or not it's a battery rapist.
If you've seen the list of tips I sent to the other thread then honestly, just go through them, what's the worst that could happen?
If you don't use it then nuke it, lighten the load and let your phone stretch it's legs.
Think about it, two identical phones. One being looked after with not so many apps and kept light Vs a phone that's laden all the time, after a year or two. That extra work will be more and more apparent In regards to stamina.
Your phones super new, make a change now when it can still make a difference.
If you need help with anything let me know. If I was you I'd wipe the phone and start over.. don't add anything, just what you need and only when you need it, you'll be surprised what you don't use but you do install just from habit.
Also 8 Magisk modules?
What ones? I'm always on the look out for good modules. I'm using 3, two of them are for safety net and systemless, so only one really.
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Thank, I'll take a look and deeply think about what apps I really need and how often.
It is also true that I have rooted phone, playing pokemon go in between which will strech the phone heavily, but this is a thing I count with.
And eh, I dont want to wipe the phone at all to be honest, because I hope that next system updates will improve whole phone, because I can also feel some underclocking and throttling.
And those modules: busybox, gpay sqlite fix, magisk bootloop saver, shamiko, systemless hosts, Universal GMS doze, Universal safetynet fix, Zygisk Lsposed.
Also during the night I am turning on airplane mode (losing only 2 % during the night).
I am also wondering how can I decline all allowed personalised ads and cookies of it is possible.
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Thank, I'll take a look and deeply think about what apps I really need and how often.
It is also true that I have rooted phone, playing pokemon go in between which will strech the phone heavily, but this is a thing I count with.
And eh, I dont want to wipe the phone at all to be honest, because I hope that next system updates will improve whole phone, because I can also feel some underclocking and throttling.
And those modules: busybox, gpay sqlite fix, magisk bootloop saver, shamiko, systemless hosts, Universal GMS doze, Universal safetynet fix, Zygisk Lsposed.
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Lol the only reason i said to wipe was that it's a sure fire way to begin a good habit, by removing bits and bobs it's a bit of a patch up job.
I'd also get rid of xposed, I've always had bad battery life with it, but that's my exprience with it.
As you will have only had one update yes a wipe isn't required, however after a few updates, it's always a good idea to give your phone a wipe to start over, it just means that inherited or created issues between firmware iterations are eliminated, definitely do this if you update a full base ie: Android 11 to 12.
You'd notice this a lot when you update Windows on your PC, for example going from win 10 to 11 you'll almost certainly notice a few issues, giving your OS a wipe at that point fixes a lot of it and improves stability and performance quite a lot.
I agree with the underclock, but the SOC is already extremely efficient from my tests, i've never seen the temp go over 35c which is incredible for a mobile SOC.
Even running a PS2 emulator (AetherX2) it wasn't even warm to touch so throttling really shouldn't occur on this phone, running the PS2 emulator is probably the hardest thing any phone is going to have to do and it breezed it.
Not trying to be a dictator with you here btw, just some advice on what i've noticed over the years, it's up to you what you do with your phone mate.
Also Pokemon go, i think that uses the camera and location and gyros as well as the gpu and cpu lol so yea that's a heavy game for sure, don't think theres a way around that though, maybe just reduce your play time?
Onak extremely happy with those advices, I am just having bad habits at all and I probably think what apps do I use even if probably don't.
I actually don't need 11 hours of SOT, just want more than I currently have. It could be hard because of my habits, also I use my phone as a work phone too for some apps which I do test on daily basis.
And those wiping. I usually do wiping when upgrading to the major versions, because I also know it is recommended, many issues would disappear then. And usually they do.
I know how new this phone is so I am quite reserved with its software, but to be honest, we expect having the phone fully working without those underclocking etc, especially for that price.
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Onak extremely happy with those advices, I am just having bad habits at all and I probably think what apps do I use even if probably don't.
I actually don't need 11 hours of SOT, just want more than I currently have. It could be hard because of my habits, also I use my phone as a work phone too for some apps which I do test on daily basis.
And those wiping. I usually do wiping when upgrading to the major versions, because I also know it is recommended, many issues would disappear then. And usually they do.
I know how new this phone is so I am quite reserved with its software, but to be honest, we expect having the phone fully working without those underclocking etc, especially for that price.
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Totally agree.. I use my phone for work too.
Do the minimum, it's all positive change tbh, so will have an impact in a good way
josecleocir said:
Hi Everyone,
I have the Oneplus 10 pro China variant and flashed Indian ROM with Oxygen OS.. Everything is working well and very smooth to me, however, the battery life is terrible with this ROM.
I'm having about 4 hours of screen on time (SOT). It is very weird, because with Color OS I was having around 7 hours of SOT and it was great for me.
Does anyone know if EU Rom is better than Indian ROM in terms of battery life?
I also have noticed that the charging speed has decreased, even it showing that is charging at 80w.
Thanks
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This is a great thread because I've learned so much about making the most out of your battery, although I came here to find out how you flashed OxygenOS on your NE2210, yes? ColorOS is okay, but OOS is just cleaner in my opinion. Any help is greatly appreciated