I have a friend who's interested in buying my Droid 4. And he wanted me to unlock it for him, so I was looking around... pretty much everything out there looks like a scam (either it wants me to install software, and makes me take a survey to get a password, or they want $28 for a code, etc)
He lives in Italy, uses the Wind network, which he says uses 4G LTE. I've seen on other posts that it doesn't need to be unlocked to be used internationally... is that correct? Or would I have to do something in order for him to use it?
Right now I've got my Verizon SIM card in there, obviously I would remove that before selling it to him. Can it be used with the stock ROM and still work internationally?
Should be no problem. I have used my D4 in Germany. Just popped in a local SIM, got a text which provided the necessary changes for APNs, and was good to surf and call away. My Droid is stock rooted, but I don't think you need to have root.
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So basically, any of those sites claiming to help you "unlock" the Droid 4 are scams?
Well, don't know what they claim to do. But you only need to unlock if you want to use a different provider within the US. Verizon locks you to their network within the US. Outside you can have any provider you like.
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They claim to give you an "unlock code"... which as far as I know doesn't even exist or it would be common knowledge by now.
But that's nice to know, I've never traveled abroad with a cellphone (I didn't even own a phone back in 2006 when I went to England) so I thought "unlocking" a phone was a universal thing to remove carrier restrictions.
No unlock required
I just got back from Ireland. Per Verizon's instructions, I had originally called the International Customer Support number to have it unlocked for European GSM usage. Customer support informed me at the time, that the phone is unlocked for international GSM from the factory. Once I arrived, I just swapped out the Verizon SIM card for a local one. It took a little configuration to get the APN/MMS settings correct, but the local phone rep was able to fix all those basic settings.
Good Luck. I'm sure everything will go smoothly for you.
Sorry if this isn't the right pace to ask this but I posted on another forum and didn't get an answer. I have a t-mobile HTC One that I recently switched over to straight talk. I'm now using an At&t sim. I have a few questions about this. First, who will I received future updates through, t -mobile or At&t? Also, it looks like I'm still running the same T-Mobile software with their apps and settings even though my service is through At&t. Is that how it's supposed to be?
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You are still carrier branded. You will receive updates through t-mobile. If you want to get rid of these apps simply root your device.
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You are still carrier branded. You will receive updates through t-mobile. If you want to get rid of these apps simply root your device.
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So you think TMO is going to push the updates over the ATT network? How does that work? Or are the updates pushed directly from HTC?
HTC only pushes updates to unbranded devices. The providers push the updates to their devices. Since you bought your phone from t-mobile, you will get updates from them. That is why you have these t-mobile apps. Your new provider won't affect your OS or your firmware. You have just access to their network through your At&t SIM.
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HTC only pushes updates to unbranded devices. The providers push the updates to their devices. Since you bought your phone from t-mobile, you will get updates from them. That is why you have these t-mobile apps. Your new provider won't affect your OS or your firmware. You have just access to their network through your At&t SIM.
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I hope the OP updates this thread when 4.4 happens... To confirm what happens.
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stevedebi said:
I hope the OP updates this thread when 4.4 happens... To confirm what happens.
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Yeah I'll post what happens once I get 4.4. I can't believe I wasn't able to find an answer about this anywhere online. It just doesn't sound right that T-mobile would be able to send me an update if I'm not on their network, but I don't know much about this kind of stuff so I'm probably wrong.
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Yeah I'll post what happens once I get 4.4. I can't believe I wasn't able to find an answer about this anywhere online. It just doesn't sound right that T-mobile would be able to send me an update if I'm not on their network, but I don't know much about this kind of stuff so I'm probably wrong.
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I almost posted that I doubt it would work, but then it occurred to me that the About/Update menu may actually go to a URL to check for updates, in which case it would work. However, I don't think that TMO will be able to push the update to your phone, because I think that would require them having your IMEI active on their servers.
Looking forward to your post (not least because it means I'll then have KitKat)!
So I have a note 3 Att branded. And they are a bunch of A$$holes and willnot unlock the device because i am the second owner.
yes it has a clean Imei. So I have been debating on the option of Unlocking my device through a web site.
I currently use it with straight talk with the BYOP program so i use a ATT sim. But I have been having issues with MMS messages,
from what i have been reading this is mainly a ATT issue. so I thought if I use a Tmobile sim card it may correct the issue.
what do you think?
Just putting this out there in case it's remotely helpful for you, I went through that insanity with a preowned iPhone 4 from ATT that I wanted to use with T-Mobile and I solved it by going in the opposite direction. I went to T-Mobile. Might be the neighborhood but the nice people there pointed me to a nearby electronics store who also did cellphone unlocking and for a fee that I can't remember off the top of my head they used some internal system and got my phone factory unlocked within 24 hours, after ATT had told me that they wouldn't do it.
If you happen to live in New York I can tell you where I went, otherwise I can say go look for a local electronics store and see if they'll submit the request for you... Or ask at your local T-Mobile store whether they know a store who does unlocks. I don't understand enough about this stuff to explain but I can at least relay that it worked out well enough for me. The iPhone 4 worked fine with T-Mobile afterwards.
I have always used ebay or an "unlocking" site. I have used both methods quite a bit because I sell phones on ebay and I used to work for a friend that owns a couple prepaid phone/service stores. I also worked at a small tech repair store and did unlocks there as well. Anyway my point is that the government and the phone companies have made it a lot harder and more expensive to unlock newer phones. Also I would do your research on tmobile in your area before spending too much money on unlocking. It may be different for you but in my area tmobile and sprint suck as far as coverage. Plus tmobile doesn't have lte.
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I really don't want to unlock unless I have to but I can't get mms messages and I didn't know if it was a att issue
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dyson77 said:
I really don't want to unlock unless I have to but I can't get mms messages and I didn't know if it was a att issue
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How will unlocking help you get your messages?
Never mind I am stupid..
Wanted to take a moment and tell everyone. I ordered a new sim card. My network went from saying home in the upper left to att and everything is fixed I can get mms
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I had to send my phone into LG for repair. I am a Prepaid T-Mobile customer. Since I got the phone back, whenever I try to open the app to check on Permanent Unlock (as I have done temp in the past), the app get this error when Connecting to NetworkL:
Device not recognized by your service provider. Please call customer care.
Well, I tried using chat service on their website and all that resulted in was the person thinking they should send in an unlock request for me. I knew this was wrong. Next day I get an email from the unlock dept telling me to use the app
Since I figure people here tend to be smarter than a telco tech support person, I would ask here before pursuing this further with Tmo.
This is in fact the same phone I sent in...I checked the IMEI, etc. Using the same tmo sim card.
Any ideas?
Thanks
I have gone through this with T-Mobile and LG. Because you are prepaid there is no account for you at T-Mobile. According to them, the new rules are: you must be active (have an account), have either spent $100 on your account or have purchased $100 to be used on your account, and be active for 40 days. So you could borrow someone else's sim card that is in good standing, post paid, older than 40 days, and has had $100 spent or is in the account. YES, this is extortion at it's finest! The only other way would be to find a verified seller that has a money back guarantee, who is willing to unlock your phone for a fee. The cheapest legit one I saw on the internet was about $55. NOW, you can use MetroPCS, T-Mobile, and Simple Mobile sim cards without unlocking your phone because Metro and Simple are MVNO's (subsidiary carriers that use T-Mobile towers. You CAN'T use AT&T, Verizon, etc. BUT you can't switch from T-Mobile to Simple Mobile. You can switch from T-Mobile or Simple Mobile to MetroPCS. I did it.
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I have gone through this with T-Mobile and LG. Because you are prepaid there is no account for you at T-Mobile. According to them, the new rules are: you must be active (have an account), have either spent $100 on your account or have purchased $100 to be used on your account, and be active for 40 days. So you could borrow someone else's sim card that is in good standing, post paid, older than 40 days, and has had $100 spent or is in the account. YES, this is extortion at it's finest! The only other way would be to find a verified seller that has a money back guarantee, who is willing to unlock your phone for a fee. The cheapest legit one I saw on the internet was about $55. NOW, you can use MetroPCS, T-Mobile, and Simple Mobile sim cards without unlocking your phone because Metro and Simple are MVNO's (subsidiary carriers that use T-Mobile towers. You CAN'T use AT&T, Verizon, etc. BUT you can't switch from T-Mobile to Simple Mobile. You can switch from T-Mobile or Simple Mobile to MetroPCS. I did it.
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Hmm. I am sadly aware of tmo's FU to prepaid customers needing service, as I have experienced it as well.
But, before I sent it in this app did recognize my phone and would allow me to temp unlock. It is only since it came back from LG repair that it stopped working. This was a period of maybe 10 days.
One item I question, but imagine it is nothing is that under the battery next to the original label with IMEI, model, seriel, etc , they place another label that has a barcode with the imei numbers next to that LB (Leather Back). Above that is shows HB811LB, but then after that BT01 EU.
No idea what that was about but EU made me think Europe.
I am interested to know if and/or how you got this resolved. I am suffering the exact same issue with a T-Mobile LG V10 after sending it in for repair.
Same thing with me, i was able to get the prompt to temp or perm unlock before i sent my g4 off to LG. Phone came back same IMEI on sticker and on device after dialing *#06# I get the stupid message device not recognized by your service provider. Please contact customer care. I tried reinstalling the firmware, same firmware that was in there, didn't want to brick the phone again.... still nothing.
I had the same issue and Tech support ended up sending me a new device. I purchased a phone and it ended up failing during a software update and wouldn't boot. Had to send it into LG for repair. Got it back andnit wouldn't unlock with the same error. Tech Support had sent me a replacement device brand new not refurbished after about 2 phone calls complaining about it not recognizing my device in the unlock app.
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I had the same issue and Tech support ended up sending me a new device. I purchased a phone and it ended up failing during a software update and wouldn't boot. Had to send it into LG for repair. Got it back andnit wouldn't unlock with the same error. Tech Support had sent me a replacement device brand new not refurbished after about 2 phone calls complaining about it not recognizing my device in the unlock app.
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Hmm nice to know, the only problem is i bought this phone from someone and I'm in Canada.
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I had the same issue and Tech support ended up sending me a new device. I purchased a phone and it ended up failing during a software update and wouldn't boot. Had to send it into LG for repair. Got it back andnit wouldn't unlock with the same error. Tech Support had sent me a replacement device brand new not refurbished after about 2 phone calls complaining about it not recognizing my device in the unlock app.
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Maybe I should call them again. Last time I tried they basically said FU to me. They repaired it and that was that. Frankly, the only thing keeping me with these TMO arses is that I have a super cheap prepaid plan they no longer offer.
Of course my concern with them replacing the phone is that the replacement could have any of the other various issues that this LG quality control clusterF*** has.
Thinking along the lines of it being my last LG product instead. Maybe even sell it now before the flood and use my little LG Leon backup phone I bought when I initially sent this one in for service.And Maybe tell TMO FOOO too.
Whatever LG is doing when they are flashing phones back to stock after them being bricked, is really messing up the phones. I sent out another one and the IMEI is clear fully paid off and the device unlock app is pulling the same ****. I'm not impressed. T-mobile won't unlock the phone either because i'm not the original owner. There is no block what so ever on the phone. PURE B.S on T-mobile and LG's part.
On the phone with LG now. So far getting the same run-around. He is actually calling TMO support because he simply won't believe they can't fix it.
If I don't get a replacement, I may be selling this phone, done with LG for good and ordering a Moto X Pure or something
I don't mind a screw up by a company, but you best stand behind your product properly or foo you and your company, IMO.
Results of call.....Total Failure. The LG person pawns me off on a TMO person who asks for my number so they can call back. Instead, they just transferred me to a TMO support idiot who had no idea whatsoever about what was going on. Really sick of both these company's Bull****. Pretty sure this is my last LG product ever.
Decided to try again using Chat.
So annoyed with LG and TMO right now I may sell the phone and buy a Nexus 6p and Foo to all LG products in the future.
I think it has to do with LG's firmware they install. Can't see what else it can be. After installing the stock 10n firmware still getting the same error. Not sure what i can do, most likely i'll be selling the phone on swappa.
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I think it has to do with LG's firmware they install. Can't see what else it can be. After installing the stock 10n firmware still getting the same error. Not sure what i can do, most likely i'll be selling the phone on swappa.
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Agreed. Something they are doing when they flash their firmware is causing the problem. It is NOT T-Mobile (albeit their quality of service for prepaid customers sucks ass
And that is fine if they fix the issue. Now they are just being ****tards and I have about had it.
All I can say is that after the quality control debacle of the G4, you'd have to be a fool to buy a G5. I know I won't
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Agreed. Something they are doing when they flash their firmware is causing the problem. It is NOT T-Mobile (albeit their quality of service for prepaid customers sucks ass
And that is fine if they fix the issue. Now they are just being ****tards and I have about had it
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The more i speak to t-mobile the more i hate them, who puts an unlock app on a phone? In Canada we buy a phone same day get an unlock code and call it a day. I'm sure people will be leaving t-mobile to go elsewhere.
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The more i speak to t-mobile the more i hate them, who puts an unlock app on a phone? In Canada we buy a phone same day get an unlock code and call it a day. I'm sure people will be leaving t-mobile to go elsewhere.
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It's because that crazy ass John Legarde is a jerkoff and this is their way of screwing over customers on Sim Unlocking. They actually put something in there that disallows the normal way of sim unlocking, if you put CM on your phone that will prompt for an unlock code (I bought one cheap).
T-Mobile is just simply an ASSHOLE company run by a human freak of nature
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It's because that crazy ass John Legarde is a jerkoff and this is their way of screwing over customers on Sim Unlocking. They actually put something in there that disallows the normal way of sim unlocking, if you put CM on your phone that will prompt for an unlock code (I bought one cheap).
T-Mobile is just simply an ASSHOLE company run by a human freak of nature
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I also heard that you cant root it put in the international rom, put in a foreign sim and it asks for an unlock code. After that the phone says unlocked but it actually isn't. I wish i knew for about development i'd tear one of the 2 phones apart and try to fet the partition that allows us to bypass the unlock.
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I also heard that you cant root it put in the international rom, put in a foreign sim and it asks for an unlock code. After that the phone says unlocked but it actually isn't. I wish i knew for about development i'd tear one of the 2 phones apart and try to fet the partition that allows us to bypass the unlock.
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Hah. Well, I am just trying to have it work being totally legit. It has nothing to do with rooting and romming, that much know as the problem existed right out of the box from them. Also, before the repair, the app work 100% rooted or not.
duplicate. my bad.
I always wonder why that button says Edit/Delete, but you can never delete them. :laugh:
Well, I just ordered a Nexus 6p with Project Fi. If I like it I will port my tmo number to it and be done with LG....since fi uses tmo, I will simply be done dealing with them directly.
Not sure I see any downsides to this
Hah, decided to make one last attempt with LG tech support, this time via email. Besides explaining to them why their initial reply was wrong, I also told them I have pretty much given up on future LG purchases and that I have a nexus 6p on the way to replace this phone. Just got another reply and supposedly he is kicking it up to his manager. We will see what happens, but I am not raising my expectations. Nothing says I can't cancel the nexus 6p.
I saw a couple other threads related but didn't quite answer all my questions. And I want to make a point that i'm not that tech savvy. I've been told by Verizon and Sprint my Galaxy Note 9 is unlocked and Sprint just doesn't accept Verizon phones. Browsing the web I was guessing it might be because of Verizons' bull**** firmware on my N960U. My phone is not rooted and I've never done anything funny with it. I looked on google and I've seen answers, that to use Odin to change Carrier Firmware it doesn't have to be rooted. And I've seen posts saying it has to be rooted....How exactly can I get my Verizon branded phone to work on Sprint. It was paid off in cash and I called both providers, so i'm 97% sure it is not sim-card locked. Is there a way to fix this **** without having to root my phone? I'm using Android 8.1.0....Build Number is M1AJQ.N960USQU1ARL1
Sprint has to whitelist the IMEI. It has nothing to do with the firmware.
I've been told my Sprint that they simply can not activate my Phone on Sprints Network. It can't be added to the database...wtf
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I've been told my Sprint that they simply can not activate my Phone on Sprints Network. It can't be added to the database...wtf
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It's a common issue. Sprint doesn't like to activate phones from other carriers.