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[Q] Car charger when using GPS!

Hi,
I have got a generic car charger I got off Ebay which seems to have a minor issue. When using GPS and charging in the car, the charge continues to drop...although slower than if it wasn't being charged. Basically means that eventually, despite being charged all the time, the battery will go flat when using GPS. I assume this is because the car charger is behaving as though its being charged via a USB port rather than mains.
Is this a problem with all car chargers...or just because I got the cheapest car charger I could get on eBay?
Would buying the official Samsung car charger provide a more efficient and quicker charging?

Im curious about this as well. I use a cheap charger and it seems to "maintain" the current charge, but doesnt actually charge.
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Mine was dropping one percentage point every 15 minutes or so. If I was running low on battery before getting in the car, I probably wouldn't get very far using the GPS

you guys need to get a HIGH amp car charger
i purchased a 2Amp charger and it works perfectly
average old (free) included car chargers are usually rated at 450 mAh or less
translation, you use the battery faster than it can charge it back
basically you need charger that guarantees 1 Amp (1000 mAh) or more for it to properly work in the car, meanwhile using the GPS and Bluetooth streaming

i picked up a cheap duracell brand car charger from the local frys store before embarking on my 4 hour journey from Houston to Dallas, i had music playing and gps with screen brightness at 100%
no issues for me

I use a Motorola charger, 950 mah. Works find for me. Got it for $5 on Amazon. It's not a USB adapter charger, but it gets the job done.
royalsego said:
i picked up a cheap duracell brand car charger from the local frys store before embarking on my 4 hour journey from Houston to Dallas, i had music playing and gps with screen brightness at 100%
no issues for me
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Hope you had that phone in front of your A/C otherwise the back cover probably would have melted.

the one i'm using was originally made for BlackBerries

There's a thread somewhere about modding your car USB charger charger cable by linking the data parts to make it think it's mains and allowing a full 1amp to come through.
Can anyone link to a reliable 1amp on Amazon or something?

AndyCr15 said:
Can anyone link to a reliable 1amp on Amazon or something?
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I've just got one of these from Amazon...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002SKF654/ref=oss_product
Seem to do the trick so far, rated at 1A and on a brief test this morning on the way to work actually charged the phone with NAV and GPS running.
The Samsung I had bought previously did show as charging from 'AC' (so D+ and D- shorted) but was only rated at 750mA which clearly wasn't quite enough.

I had one from Belkin, bought for my old iPhone, it works really well with the Nexus S, even with the GPS always on.

Most of the ipad chargers are rated at 2 amp. Get one with a usb connection and use your own usb cable. Kensington makes one in a micro format that hides completely in the lighter outlet. Works great for me.
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[Q] Wireless charger?

Is anyone aware of a wireless charger that would enable the fast charging speeds of the charger in the box?

discstu37 said:
Is anyone aware of a wireless charger that would enable the fast charging speeds of the charger in the box?
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I believe the limitation of Qi is 500 - 700 mA unfortunately.

I think, but not sure, that you can use and qi wireless charger as long as it's connected with the included (and rather large) Droid Turbo power adapter.

tonyf7 said:
I think, but not sure, that you can use and qi wireless charger as long as it's connected with the included (and rather large) Droid Turbo power adapter.
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I cant imagine you would need to use the turbo charger for this. Like SBC44 said the speed is going to be limited fairly low with wireless charging. It wouldn't be possible to charge that fast with wireless technologies, at least not with the current technology. The turbo charger moves a lot of juice.
Here is some good reading if your interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging
From the article "Slower charging – due to the lower efficiency, devices can take longer to charge when supplied power is equal."

discstu37 said:
Is anyone aware of a wireless charger that would enable the fast charging speeds of the charger in the box?
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I dont think so.. wall chargers are more powerful than wireless chargers.. Wireless chargers are still need to improve alot..

Wireless charging takes more than overnight!
Do not waste your money on the Verizon wireless charger. The battery in this is so big that even overnight does not bring a phone that was down to 25% up to a full charge.

Thanks for letting us know. I was about to buy the Verizon wireless charger 2 days ago when I was buying all my accessories for the phone. Would've been a bummer to find out how slow the wireless charger chargers. Thanks.
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The TYLT brand wireless charger is capable of normal wall plug speeds. It will be much faster than the average Qi charger but at the same time the turbo charger is amazing. I do not know of a charger that can charge as fast as the turbo charger but this TYLT brand is pretty good. The only reason I would get a wireless charger is to reduce wear and tear on my microUSB port (the culprit for retiring most of my previous android devices).
I also think its common knowledge that rapid charging and discharging of LiPo batteries reduces the overall life expectancy. I'm not sure what Motorola is doing with this whole "rapid charge and non removable battery" thing. Its possible that Turbo users can prolong the life of their batteries by charging at normal rates but I honestly don't have enough info to make a confident statement about that.
Here's the fastest Qi charger that I know of right now:
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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ccheww said:
The TYLT brand wireless charger is capable of normal wall plug speeds. It will be much faster than the average Qi charger but at the same time the turbo charger is amazing. I do not know of a charger that can charge as fast as the turbo charger but this TYLT brand is pretty good. The only reason I would get a wireless charger is to reduce wear and tear on my microUSB port (the culprit for retiring most of my previous android devices).
I also think its common knowledge that rapid charging and discharging of LiPo batteries reduces the overall life expectancy. I'm not sure what Motorola is doing with this whole "rapid charge and non removable battery" thing. Its possible that Turbo users can prolong the life of their batteries by charging at normal rates but I honestly don't have enough info to make a confident statement about that.
Here's the fastest Qi charger that I know of right now:
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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I also use the Tylt Vu and am very pleased with it. Looking forward to their wireless car dock.

SBC44 said:
I also use the Tylt Vu and am very pleased with it. Looking forward to their wireless car dock.
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Is there an actual model thats being advertised for release? Ive been searching everywhere for the right wireless car dock. Im trying to minimize my usage on the microUSB port.
That goes for everyone. If you know of any good wireless Qi car mounts /docks that would be superb. I drive all day every day.

ccheww said:
Is there an actual model thats being advertised for release? Ive been searching everywhere for the right wireless car dock. Im trying to minimize my usage on the microUSB port.
That goes for everyone. If you know of any good wireless Qi car mounts /docks that would be superb. I drive all day every day.
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Their website just says coming soon, but Android Police did a hands-on post about it a couple of weeks ago. Looks like the price will be about $80 (!).
I currently use this wireless car dock and haven't had any problems with it..

I was thinking of getting this car mount, but wasnt sure how it would work with the turbo. I have a few questions for you;
do you have a case on it? if so which one... i have the otterbox commuter...
what car are you using it in?
are you using the suction cup or vent connection?
any info would be helpful!
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I'm not using a case on the Turbo, but I used it with an HTC One M8 with a Commuter case and it worked fine. I drive a Chevy Avalanche and mounted the cradle using a ProClip vehicle mount and one of their adapter plates for an XM Radio believe it or not. That matches up pretty well with the tab on the back of the Choetech mount, but I did have to wrap a few rubber bands around the tab so it was tight enough.

I've used this one for close to a year with various devices. It does charge at 1.2a but is limited by the wireless receiver, most are .75a or less. That being said, this unit works great with my BN turbo. It is always at 99-100% after about 7 hours on night stand even when starting below 20%. Currently I'm not using a case, but I have a Commuter case I used for awhile and the wireless charger still worked fine through the case.

May be available in the end of 2015!
Right now there is no wireless charger that supports faster charging but it will soon be available in the end of 2015 as it is under developing state.

I have the Tylt and it says it supports the rapid charging. I can't say it is as fast as the wall charger since I've only had it a few days, but it does seem that the initial charge is very fast.
Also, very stylish. The wife doesn't even complain about leaving it on the night stand.

Bought the TYLT when I pick up the DT its well worth the $75. It charges faster than all my other home Qi chargers and it keeps the phone at a decent angle for viewing. It is not able to keep up with the draw of TS3 Viewer though, but not really a normal issue. I use this charger everyday and it will charge the phone from sub 15% to full overnight. Consequently I normally use this charger to charge up my wife's S5 and it seems to charge at a similar rate to her normal Samsung charger. I like useing this charger over the turbo charger simply because it should help the battery to last longer.
As far as dash mount I use the iOttie Easy Flex Wireless Qi Charger. That one maintains battery levels with the screen always on running Dash and Google Play (it also almost keeps up with running GPS ie. Waze/Google Maps) I posted an extensive reply in a later thread about that charger.

i bought the TYLT and love it. when i turn droid off and put it on TYLT and droid turns on itself. how do i keep droid off while charging? thanks.

bringing this back as I just bought this device. curious to see if there are any fast wireless chargers available yet? i do see QI wireless charging pads, but not sure if that is what I want. thanks!

jco23 said:
bringing this back as I just bought this device. curious to see if there are any fast wireless chargers available yet? i do see QI wireless charging pads, but not sure if that is what I want. thanks!
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I don't think any have hit the market yet. I have several of the tilt Qi chargers all over the house, so I love wireless charging.

Wireless Charging Issues

Anyone able to reliably charge wirelessly? I have a few Qi pads and without carefully and meticulously placing it in just the right spot it won't charge. And even then it often toggles in and out of charging.
Any suggestions? Or a pad that will work reliably?
Thanks
-bc
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I have charged on Tylt Vu every night since I got it with no issues.

I put it on my TYLT every night now and its at 100% when I wake up. It does goes to 99% faster than when I charge it with my regular charger but I think that's just me.

couple of the threads on this in the accessories section.
OP should post up the pads he or she uses so others can compare.
i too have no issues charging wirelessly with two different model chargers.

marctronixx said:
couple of the threads on this in the accessories section.
OP should post up the pads he or she uses so others can compare.
i too have no issues charging wirelessly with two different model chargers.
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You’re right. I have two different pads I’ve tried:
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1.*******CHOETECH Qi Wireless Charger Pad – works almost never. Even with meticulous placement.
2.*******PowerBot® PB1020 Qi Enabled Wireless Charger Pad – works reliably with very careful placement.
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I’m intrigued to try the TYLY Vu, just ordered a used one. Hoping this provides more reliable everyday use. I’d prefer to be able to just put the hone down before bed and be assured it will work every time.
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I ordered this fairly cheap Qi Wireless Charger Pad on eBay and it works perfectly.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311142445315?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

The tylt seems to be the best deal in terms of consistent docks. I have returned several different chargers and am using the tylt and choe stadium chargers..

My charger works fine, but stops supplying power once the device reaches 100%. I'll wake up with about 98% because of several hours of standby drain.

bc14nj said:
You’re right. I have two different pads I’ve tried:
2.*******PowerBot® PB1020 Qi Enabled Wireless Charger Pad – works reliably with very careful placement.
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I have the powerBot and can confirm the same. Works reliably, but takes a bit of moving around to get it started. Once I get the solid blue light on it then I've never had an issue with the charge being incomplete.
Was also looking at tylt vu, might put it on my xmas list..

The Nokia DT-900 wireless charging plate I got from AT&T a few months ago for $5/ea works just fine.

i have the CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger and it's working without issue. it even charges with my (thin) case on the phone.

slimc84 said:
The Nokia DT-900 wireless charging plate I got from AT&T a few months ago for $5/ea works just fine.
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it works fine, but it turns the damn thing on 100% of the time. i don't want that. charges Nexus 5 just fine while it's off. for now i'm just using the turbo charger until i can figure out what the hell to do

With my nexus 6, I have had good luck with the itan ( a tylt vu knock off) http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00LE6X5VU/ and tylt vu charger, also the 2012 original google wireless charger, but my other qi chargers do not work well, including two airdocks and the 2013 nexus wireless charger. It is more an issue of correct placement, than the qi technology per se. Qi works on the nexus 6, butit is harder to place the n6 correctly due to the two axis curved back plate, which has no flat part at all, so the small single coil chargers do not work as well as the larger triple coil chargers, like the itan or tylt vu or chose stadium.

Following back here, I have been using the Tylt Vu without flaw for a month of so here. It's very good at working with the 6 when I just put it down on it, no fiddling necessary ever.
Definitely recommend.

XxKINGxX2580 said:
I ordered this fairly cheap Qi Wireless Charger Pad on eBay and it works perfectly.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311142445315?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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I have what appears to be this exact unit, ordered here... http://www.ebay.com/itm/181694553032?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT in fact, I bought 3 of them at the same time (i wanted them for different locations that i am all day) and none of them work for some reason... i line my n6 up exactly, the light turns green for a second or 2, my phone shows that it's charging for less than a second and then the plate goes back to red again... i've tried all kinds of alignments, even disassembled one to see if there was too much space between the coil and the phone... it hasn't worked for more than a blip...

bc14nj said:
You’re right. I have two different pads I’ve tried:
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1.*******CHOETECH Qi Wireless Charger Pad – works almost never. Even with meticulous placement.
2.*******PowerBot® PB1020 Qi Enabled Wireless Charger Pad – works reliably with very careful placement.
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I’m intrigued to try the TYLY Vu, just ordered a used one. Hoping this provides more reliable everyday use. I’d prefer to be able to just put the hone down before bed and be assured it will work every time.
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I have the CHOE triple coil QI and I have had no issues charging my Nexus 6. It even charges through my INCIPIO rubber case.

Using a Nokia as we speak, never had a problem. That being said you have to realize that the charging coil is off center in this phone, approzimately 1/3 of the way up from the bottom, I assume to facilitate the use of chargers designed for smaller phones. This can cause a charging problem for those that don't position the phone correctly over the centered charging spot on the charger. Remember that and all chargers should work on the N6 as well as they work on any other Qi phone.

Using a vzw 3 coil. only thing I've noticed is that sometimes it doesn't start charging. I usually unplug the pin connector, wait a few seconds, them plug it back in and its always been full in the morning.

Qi Powerbot
I have a Nexus 6 and using the Powerbot PB1020. It works very well, connects easily, charges fast, not much heat but when it finishes it cuts the powerbot off and will not charge again until I unplug and re-plug the powerbot. This is not a huge deal but I would like to see myself never touching the plug again. Case in point, my elderly parents are very interested in Qi charging as they have a hard time seeing the plug on the phone and would benefit greatly from total Qi charging. However, if they have to unplug and replug the powerbot every night to reset it, then it seems a waste of money. Any others having this issue? Is it only on the Powerbot? DO all of the chargers do this? Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks,
Rob

xrobwx71 said:
I have a Nexus 6 and using the Powerbot PB1020. It works very well, connects easily, charges fast, not much heat but when it finishes it cuts the powerbot off and will not charge again until I unplug and re-plug the powerbot. This is not a huge deal but I would like to see myself never touching the plug again. Case in point, my elderly parents are very interested in Qi charging as they have a hard time seeing the plug on the phone and would benefit greatly from total Qi charging. However, if they have to unplug and replug the powerbot every night to reset it, then it seems a waste of money. Any others having this issue? Is it only on the Powerbot? DO all of the chargers do this? Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks,
Rob
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i have a samsung wireless charger($50), and it never cuts off the charger or "stops" charging.

3 Coil Qi Car Dock Wireless Charger

Yep, I went on search for and found these exist. Personally, I decided I prefer to use a standard car dock and plug my phone into a quick charge car charger so I can turbo charge my phone while I'm driving. But if you're looking for a way to NOT have to plug your phone into a wire every time you get in the car, you can use a Qi Wireless Charging car dock - this one from RavPower works great. Though, as with any Qi Wireless charge, it's a "trickle charge". If you have your phone screen off and not in use, on a 20 minute drive you'll exit your car with an ever so slightly increased battery charge. If you use your phone to stream music or for navigation, you'll likely exit your car with your phone at about the same level the battery was at when you started, which ain't bad considering how much battery navigation can drain without a charge.
Anyway, if you're interested, I did a video review of the RavPower Wireless Qi Car Charger/Dock on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/eyij41KUSQE
OR you can check it on Amazon here: http://goo.gl/sHF69n
Whatever you do, whether you're buying a Qi charger for the car or home, I recommend staying away from single coil chargers. Only get 3 Coil chargers - work much better with much less frustration!

hollywoodfrodo said:
Yep, I went on search for and found these exist. Personally, I decided I prefer to use a standard car dock and plug my phone into a quick charge car charger so I can turbo charge my phone while I'm driving. But if you're looking for a way to NOT have to plug your phone into a wire every time you get in the car, you can use a Qi Wireless Charging car dock - this one from RavPower works great. Though, as with any Qi Wireless charge, it's a "trickle charge". If you have your phone screen off and not in use, on a 20 minute drive you'll exit your car with an ever so slightly increased battery charge. If you use your phone to stream music or for navigation, you'll likely exit your car with your phone at about the same level the battery was at when you started, which ain't bad considering how much battery navigation can drain without a charge.
Anyway, if you're interested, I did a video review of the RavPower Wireless Qi Car Charger/Dock on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/eyij41KUSQE
OR you can check it on Amazon here: http://goo.gl/sHF69n
Whatever you do, whether you're buying a Qi charger for the car or home, I recommend staying away from single coil chargers. Only get 3 Coil chargers - work much better with much less frustration!
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Tell us more about your quick charge car dock please

One thing I love about this phone is my car charger became obsolete. I never need to charge it in the car ever.

civiksi said:
One thing I love about this phone is my car charger became obsolete. I never need to charge it in the car ever.
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+1
I totally agree!
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I did try an Itian 3 coil Qi desktop charger. worked OK if phone was naked, but, I cannot use it because I have a magnetic mount for my car and the metal plate gets very hot as well as messes with the Qi charger.
Besides I like the turbo charge speed at both the bedside and in the car for those times I may have forgotten to put it on the charger at bedtime.

Incipio vehicle dock alternative

I bought Z2 force and found out there is not a single Incipio vehicle dock on the market. So I asked Incipio directly and they said the dock is discontinued.
Do you know about any alternatives?
Maybe use some other moto mod and make a holder from it?
All I need is to plug a phone into some dock with fast charging without plugging cable to phone.

I knew places were sold out, but they literally discontinued it? Well that's a level of depressing I didn't want to read.

Unseeablething said:
I knew places were sold out, but they literally discontinued it? Well that's a level of depressing I didn't want to read.
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Eventually, I found it on eBay. There are not many pieces left, so be hurry, if you want some
Link:
ebay.com/itm/NEW-Incipio-Vehicle-Dock-Car-Dock-Motorola-Moto-Mod-Moto-Z-89911N/202158071570?hash=item2f118f5f12:g:BPwAAOSwc2FaP0fY

I bought the incipio wireless charging/battery mod, and I have a RAM X-Grip mount with a wireless charging pad attached to the center hub of the x-grip. I did not use a fast charging pad, but you certainly could.
I had the smaller of the two x-grips for my previous phone (Galaxy S7 Active), and my new Z2 Force does fit, but just barely with the verizon bumper installed on it. I'd probably go with the larger one if I had to do it now, and that would give more room for the charging pad.

78c10 said:
I bought the incipio wireless charging/battery mod, and I have a RAM X-Grip mount with a wireless charging pad attached to the center hub of the x-grip. I did not use a fast charging pad, but you certainly could.
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The Incipio wireless charging/battery mod only charges at 5w (slow charge), wireless for the mod and the phone (phone gets 100% before mod charges) or through the phone, after the phone turbo charges itself to 100 then the mod slow charges. The Moto wireless shell does charge wirelessly at 10w (fast charge but no turbo charge) but doesn't have an extra battery.
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good info, thanks! I guess that means using a fast charging pad won't make any difference, then. Sorry to get other folks' hopes up.

It's currently available from Verizon. Got one yesterday