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[Q] Question about buying a bricked moto x

Hi everyone, I'm planning on buying a bricked moto x because it's cheap and it's new. In the past I already bought a bricked phone and made it work, however I'm not sure I will be able to this time so I wanted to know if you guys can help me understand:
-IF it can be unbricked/fixed, I don't care if it's difficult but I need to know if it's possible first.
-if the above is possible then what procedures should I follow
I'm probably asking for too much, sorry, but from what I tried to investigate it looks like it has more than one single problem so im not sure if all of them have a solution.
What the seller said:
The old owner sold it with the bootloader unlocked, I didn't knew that, so I updated via OTA (in the phone) and ended like that.
Looks like it can't have an unlocked bootloader if OTA updating, I don't even know please help me.
*since I still don't own the phone I can't test anything, I just need to know if those errors shown above have a solution, or at least are not a death declaration so I can still try something if I buy it.
Sorry for the bad quality of the images but that's what the guy selling it uploaded.

brurhh said:
Hi everyone, I'm planning on buying a bricked moto x because it's cheap and it's new. In the past I already bought a bricked phone and made it work, however I'm not sure I will be able to this time so I wanted to know if you guys can help me understand:
-IF it can be unbricked/fixed, I don't care if it's difficult but I need to know if it's possible first.
-if the above is possible then what procedures should I follow
I'm probably asking for too much, sorry, but from what I tried to investigate it looks like it has more than one single problem so im not sure if all of them have a solution.
What the seller said:
The old owner sold it with the bootloader unlocked, I didn't knew that, so I updated via OTA (in the phone) and ended like that.
Looks like it can't have an unlocked bootloader if OTA updating, I don't even know please help me.
*since I still don't own the phone I can't test anything, I just need to know if those errors shown above have a solution, or at least are not a death declaration so I can still try something if I buy it.
Sorry for the bad quality of the images but that's what the guy selling it uploaded.
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You'll be rolling the dice on that one. MAYBE it can be fixed using the de-bricking procedures, but if anyone tells you that it can FOR SURE be fixed...well...I'd question their source.
If its cheap enough that you don't mind throwing that amount of money down the drain....give it a shot. Your call.

brurhh said:
What the seller said:
The old owner sold it with the bootloader unlocked, I didn't knew that, so I updated via OTA (in the phone) and ended like that.
Looks like it can't have an unlocked bootloader if OTA updating, I don't even know please help me.
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I call BS on that account of what happened... The bootloader is LOCKED STATUS 0. That device was never bootloader unlocked. (and having an unlocked bootloader doesn't interfere with taking an OTA)
It could be that someone used one of the older procedures to root and disable write protection, took and OTA (losing root/write protection) and later tried to downgrade to root & disable write protection again, thus causing the brick.
It could be as simple as flashing the latest ROM (4.4.4) using mfastboot. I could be as complex as using -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057 ... or it could just be a brick that can't be recovered.
Either way, like @samwathegreat said... its a roll of the dice. There is no way of knowing until after you buy the phone and try.

KidJoe said:
... or it could just be a brick that can't be recovered.
Either way, like @samwathegreat said... its a roll of the dice. There is no way of knowing until after you buy the phone and try.
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I'll try, after all it's almost new, even if I need to replace something it would be cheaper than buying an used one, I'm worried about that CID stuff because I read that it has something to do with a unique file that has to be backed up and without that file there is nothing you can do to unbrick.

brurhh said:
I'll try, after all it's almost new, even if I need to replace something it would be cheaper than buying an used one, I'm worried about that CID stuff because I read that it has something to do with a unique file that has to be backed up and without that file there is nothing you can do to unbrick.
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I'd be worried too. There's a great chance the device can't be fixed... And you're simply out X amount of dollars.
I'd pocket your money and add a bit when you can and buy a used fully working device. At least the money won't be wasted... Potentially.
For all you know he fastbooted a rom or firmware for another device entirely. If so, you're done. Paperweight. He could have brought it somewhere and already been told it's unsalvagable.
You just don't know.

KJ said:
I'd be worried too. There's a great chance the device can't be fixed... And you're simply out X amount of dollars.
I'd pocket your money and add a bit when you can and buy a used fully working device. At least the money won't be wasted... Potentially.
For all you know he fastbooted a rom or firmware for another device entirely. If so, you're done. Paperweight. He could have brought it somewhere and already been told it's unsalvagable.
You just don't know.
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Thanks, what the seller says doesn't match with the fastboot screen thats my fear, I guess he don't know or perhaps doesn't want me to know how the phone really ended like that, this phone is amazing, I just got excited about getting it so cheap, i guess i'll wait more thanks again

brurhh said:
Thanks, what the seller says doesn't match with the fastboot screen thats my fear, I guess he don't know or perhaps doesn't want me to know how the phone really ended like that, this phone is amazing, I just got excited about getting it so cheap, i guess i'll wait more thanks again
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I don't blame you!
There's some bricks you can recover from, and some you can't.
Your odds are the same if you just go to the casino and put your money for the phone on red or black at the roulette table. If you lose you lose... But if you win... You can buy a working phone. ?

HELP! My Phone is Dead!

After about a month of being rooted I decided to flash a custom rom, so I flash twrp then my custom rom which happened to be the wrong one because it was a bacon rom and I have a shamu phone so the flash didnt work (wish instructions would have made that more clear.) So after the first fail I flashed the CM12 updater zip thinking that would help but it didnt. So I go to restore my backup image, it was successful! After a successful restore I hit reboot to reboot my phone and from their it never came back up. My phone is dead as can be, no signs of life not a light or anything comes on. If their anything I can do or am I doomed. I do have insurance so I can get another phone, thats after a $200 deposit of course

With the phone off, what happens if you press and HOLD the lower volume key and the power button?

Ghetto Geeksta said:
After about a month of being rooted I decided to flash a custom rom, so I flash twrp then my custom rom which happened to be the wrong one because it was a bacon rom and I have a shamu phone so the flash didnt work (wish instructions would have made that more clear.) So after the first fail I flashed the CM12 updater zip thinking that would help but it didnt. So I go to restore my backup image, it was successful! After a successful restore I hit reboot to reboot my phone and from their it never came back up. My phone is dead as can be, no signs of life not a light or anything comes on. If their anything I can do or am I doomed. I do have insurance so I can get another phone, thats after a $200 deposit of course
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download any rom via your computer, and gapps. then boot into your recovery and adb push them to your phone. be sure its a nexus 6 rom, as thats all a nexus 6 can flash. or, boot into your bootloader and flash the factory img via fastboot.
generally, you shouldnt mod your phone until you learn all the basics about modding your phone.

kelmar13 said:
With the phone off, what happens if you press and HOLD the lower volume key and the power button?
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Absolutely nothing

simms22 said:
download any rom via your computer, and gapps. then boot into your recovery and adb push them to your phone. be sure its a nexus 6 rom, as thats all a nexus 6 can flash. or, boot into your bootloader and flash the factory img via fastboot.
generally, you shouldnt mod your phone until you learn all the basics about modding your phone.
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Cant boot into recovery mode, no power at all.

I believe my phone is bricked

Just a quick question... the phone isn't flat out of battery, is it?

Ghetto Geeksta said:
I believe my phone is bricked
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nothing at all?
try plugging it in. let it sit for a minute. then press the power button, and keep pressing it for 20-30 seconds. then let go and press it normally. if nothing, then its dead
maybe the battery died?
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machNex said:
Just a quick question... the phone isn't flat out of battery, is it?
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its possible.

This happened to me. As hard as it was, I plugged it in and went to sleep. In the morning I could boot into bootloader, and I flashed stock firmware. I had to flash each file separately, as the flash-all file wouldn't work.
Sent from my Nexus 6

Thanks for the suggestions guys but I think my phone is dead to the water, had it on the charger for 6hrs and still nothing. Well its back to my tried and true Note 2 til I can afford $200 for a new phone :crying:

Why would you go through insurance when you have manufacturer warranty?... Unless you bought it second hand

Bought it through ATT Next Plan, does the manufacturer warranty still hold up?

Ghetto Geeksta said:
Bought it through ATT Next Plan, does the manufacturer warranty still hold up?
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yes, but through motorola, not google in this case.

Ghetto Geeksta said:
After about a month of being rooted I decided to flash a custom rom, so I flash twrp then my custom rom which happened to be the wrong one because it was a bacon rom and I have a shamu phone so the flash didnt work (wish instructions would have made that more clear.) So after the first fail I flashed the CM12 updater zip thinking that would help but it didnt. So I go to restore my backup image, it was successful! After a successful restore I hit reboot to reboot my phone and from their it never came back up. My phone is dead as can be, no signs of life not a light or anything comes on. If their anything I can do or am I doomed. I do have insurance so I can get another phone, thats after a $200 deposit of course
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I could see the phone not booting but not starting to at least get into bootloader, That seems strange to me . Is there and you did you didn't include in your OP ?

simms22 said:
yes, but through motorola, not google in this case.
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Ill give Motorola a call tomorrow, I guess the good news is that since its completely dead they cant prove it was my fault.

call ASAP
Ghetto Geeksta said:
Ill give Motorola a call tomorrow, I guess the good news is that since its completely dead they cant prove it was my fault.
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They bro the same happened to me im pretty sure I installed something that was
Not for the shamu bamm bricked my phone there was nothing I could do
It was completely dead I think it was the cm updater idk but I tried everything
After that decided to call Motorola and here I am writing all of these
From my new nexus 6 oh they also have me the 64 gigs yea lucky me
,I really love Motorola they really stand behind their products at least
For me I didn't pay anything 2 days after I called I had my new phone in the mail box
Of course I have a security deposit so I can have the phone faster
Then when I get my me phone I send then the bad one and then
They have me back my money from the deposit call them ASAP you might
Also get lucky and get a64 one tell them you was watching aa movie
And all of a sudden it just died on you and never came back. Any questions I'm here

darryim said:
Also get lucky and get a64 one tell them you was watching aa movie
And all of a sudden it just died on you and never came back. Any questions I'm here
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So, what you are saying, is that he/she should commit insurance fraud? Man, look if you don't know what you are doing and brick/destroy your phone that is on you. Pay the money for a new one and learn your lesson. All you are doing is making RMA processes more and more difficult because of cheats like you. OP is to blame here if he/she flashed a ROM made for a different phone, that's on them not the MFG, Motorola.

Circaflex said:
So, what you are saying, is that he/she should commit insurance fraud? Man, look if you don't know what you are doing and brick/destroy your phone that is on you. Pay the money for a new one and learn your lesson. All you are doing is making RMA processes more and more difficult because of cheats like you. OP is to blame here if he/she flashed a ROM made for a different phone, that's on them not the MFG, Motorola.
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absolutely disagree with you.
manufacturers must make phones that will not be so easy breakable.
thanks for sharing your problem,
now again I'm confirmed that CM is sucks as always it was and should not even try it.

x111 said:
absolutely disagree with you.
manufacturers must make phones that will not be so easy breakable.
thanks for sharing your problem,
now again I'm confirmed that CM is sucks as always it was and should not even try it.
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He is right. People understand that you void your warranty when you flash your device. XDA doesnt condone fraud in any way shape or form. If you brick your device because you were messing with it then you accept it and buy a new one. Why do you think just about every rom thread tells you that you have now voided your warranty. Flashing your device is not something that should be taken lightly or done because it is cool.

so?
zelendel said:
He is right. People understand that you void your warranty when you flash your device. XDA doesnt condone fraud in any way shape or form. If you brick your device because you were messing with it then you accept it and buy a new one. Why do you think just about every rom thread tells you that you have now voided your warranty. Flashing your device is not something that should be taken lightly or done because it is cool.
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So is OK for them to sell phones to us that are defective? Anyway my phone had the
Screen burning and also the
Pink color issue when you lower the brightness I didn't fell like returning it because I had
Already set everything up the way I like it . so just like us they also have to face
The consequences which they do pretty good for me and should do for everyone we are
Taking about a 700 hundred dollars phone here not a 100 dollars phone ,I would like to see.
Those who are taking crap saying to buy another phone if they were in my shoes
I'm pretty sure they would have done the same so stop with that bs . return that phone get your new one end of story thanks.

Are new Pure Editions shipping with KK or Lollipop?

Well it finally happened, I dropped my X. Or more like someone whacked it out of my hands. It's fine, but there's a gouge in the metal frame that's already driving me nuts. So I wanna use my Moto Care to get a new one, but I want to make sure that the one I get will have KK, because it's a pain to downgrade. So, those of you who have recently gotten your Pure Editions- did they come with KK or are they already updated to Lollipop? TIA.

I received my MotoX 2014 pure edition on 2/13. It came with Lollipop. I did use the factory mage from here to downgrade to KitKat.

That's all you had to do was flash the factory image?

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That's all you had to do was flash the factory image?
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Man that sucks that's why you should keep it in case. But yes that's all you have to do I can help you do it

ewalk4866 said:
Man that sucks that's why you should keep it in case. But yes that's all you have to do I can help you do it
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I don't need your help, tard. I just thought there were more steps involved... per you, actually. I'll show you the damage next time I see you, it's heartbreaking.
Sent from my iPhone 6 using Tapatalk

Ordered mine on 2/2 and received it on 2/13. It came with KitKat.

Is it just me or is this phone a devepors dud?

So I understand that we have locked bootloader but it seems that these forums are dying. This is the first LG phone ive ever owned but it really feels dead even compared to my Galaxy note 3. It's like nobody is even trying to do anything with it and its made me quite sad. Anyone have any suggestions as to how to make this phone feel fun and different like I remember doing to my Galaxy s2 or s3? I miss the good old days when a new rom came out every week and new exploits came out almost instantly.

Since there is no official unlock method, it's very tough to develop. Even if there was a workaround to unlock, these money hungry CDMA carriers lock us out of fastboot and adb, so it wouldn't be possible either way. I really wish I would've waited for the new Nexus phones or the OnePlus Two.

ironbesterer said:
Since there is no official unlock method, it's very tough to develop. Even if there was a workaround to unlock, these money hungry CDMA carriers lock us out of fastboot and adb, so it wouldn't be possible either way. I really wish I would've waited for the new Nexus phones or the OnePlus Two.
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The one plus 2 isn't for CDMA, but yeah, the nexus phone would have been great.

EmSeeMAC said:
The one plus 2 isn't for CDMA, but yeah, the nexus phone would have been great.
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Wasn't saying it was. I'm saying I wish I would've waited for it. I didn't want a carrier phone to begin with, but the G4 made me want it. Big mistake
Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk

I know how you feel. I had mine since release and though I think its an all around great phone root for the most part has done me justice. I just think the general idea of bootloader locking is bull**** and should be illegal. I would love a nexus phone but I will not buy into googles push to cloud storage and their services. I can deal with no removable battery but non expandable memory is a no go. Honestly if/when we get android M on the G3 and we get a custom rom I will go back to it provided the bluetooth issues are ironed out. But thats just my 2 cents

kangta05 said:
I know how you feel. I had mine since release and though I think its an all around great phone root for the most part has done me justice. I just think the general idea of bootloader locking is bull**** and should be illegal. I would love a nexus phone but I will not buy into googles push to cloud storage and their services. I can deal with no removable battery but non expandable memory is a no go. Honestly if/when we get android M on the G3 and we get a custom rom I will go back to it provided the bluetooth issues are ironed out. But thats just my 2 cents
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Bootloader unlock, illegal... Really? Please don't be that guy. We bought the phone, we should be able to do what we want to it. That's like buying a car and it being illegal to change your own oil.

You might want to read that again. Where did I state that UN locking it should be illegal. I said the whole boot loader locking thing is bs ie we should not be locked out from it.

I called LG and talk to a tech who told me if I send my phone to them they would unlock my bootloader but it would void my warranty and of course I already knew that but I was just shocked that they said yes instead of telling me no.

Question TMO NE2217 Bootloader unlock option open after A13 Update

It wasn't available before, my phone is still carrier locked. It updated to Android 13 last night. And now I can toggle OEM unlock under dev settings. Should I send it?

Interesting, are you SIM unlocked already? I bought mine from OP so I didn't have to deal with this, but a friend just got theirs from TMobile so I'd be interested to know if this actually works. I wouldn't want to tell you what to do it as it's your money, but if you have a backup phone and you're within your TMobile return window I'd imagine there's no harm in trying. You'll have to enter bootloader to run the `oem unlock` command to fully test if it works

I was able to unlocked mine out of the box when I got mine, and I'm on A12 still. You might have to do more than just the oem unlock, as you still have to get the OP token that takes exactly 2 weeks. Aside from that I haven't done anything but root for a few apps like superfreeze and AFwall. I'm about to sell this thing as it's noticeably less responsive and more laggy than my OP8t. Not to mention I don't even think you can restore anything without MSM. So if you wanna try root, it'll probably most likely work just don't mess around kernels and whatever else.

Grin59 said:
noticeably less responsive and more laggy than my OP8t.
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Oh man, I'm so glad to see it's not just me. I went from an 8T to 10Pro, and it seriously felt like a downgrade. Like an idiot, I traded my 8T at TMO so I got the carrier-locked one. That'll never happen again.