It is really great to have the Google Play Store to leverage the apps I already bought for the kids. But unfortunately, since the Amazon child profiles can't see them, and the issues I mentioned elswhere with the Kindle reader being tied to the device account, sigh... It looks like a move to CM might be the only option.
But one curiosity, if I stay with this setup of the Fire software and sideloaded Google Play stuff... When I go to the online play store, I see my other [older] devices registered there, but I can't see the new ones. However, if I go to the device locater, they do show up. Very strange. But I can't see them in the device list or when it comes to download/install software from the web.
Anyone else getting this to work or seeing this same behavior?
I have the same question. It's a bit annoying. It can be much easier to use Google Play on a desktop, and then have it push the app to the device.
Has anyone figured out a way to get the Fire listed as one of your devices in the Google Play desktop store? I assume it involves some sort of registration that our method of installing Google Play and its required services does not do.
trlkly said:
I have the same question. It's a bit annoying. It can be much easier to use Google Play on a desktop, and then have it push the app to the device.
Has anyone figured out a way to get the Fire listed as one of your devices in the Google Play desktop store? I assume it involves some sort of registration that our method of installing Google Play and its required services does not do.
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A common problem with custom roms and 3rd party devices (Google it) that has nothing to do with the method used to install Google Play components. All my Amazon devices show up just fine; took no special steps to make it happen. Likely something related to Google Account configuration IMHO.
Davey126 said:
A common problem with custom roms and 3rd party devices (Google it) that has nothing to do with the method used to install Google Play components. All my Amazon devices show up just fine; took no special steps to make it happen. Likely something related to Google Account configuration IMHO.
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So you run stock roms on your Amazon devices? I'm just running FireOS, albeit now with the Nova Launcher. Do you have any FireOS devices that have it?
I'm actually kinda hoping someone will have a device that works and one that doesn't and they can try and see what the underlying difference is.
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So you run stock roms on your Amazon devices? I'm just running FireOS, albeit now with the Nova Launcher. Do you have any FireOS devices that have it?
I'm actually kinda hoping someone will have a device that works and one that doesn't and they can try and see what the underlying difference is.
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At present I do not have FireOS running on any of my devices. Not a bad rom once debloated if you like the presentation. My leanings are closer to AOSP (pure Android UI).
I don't believe a direct comparison will yield any clues as the problem has been around for years, crosses multiple device types and has (so far) resisted efforts to diagnose. There are a handful of workarounds and supposed fixes but what works for one often fails for the rest.
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Do you know of any of them?
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Do you know of any of them?
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Google 'device not in play store' or similar constructs; lots of material. Maybe something will work for you!
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Not sure which Nightlies, but noticed lots of apps on PlayStore are not compatible. Anyone else notice or know why they are not available on PlayStore?
For example, most Glu games are not available anymore.
I am currently on the 7/7 nightly.
This has been a known issue, especially on games. The Touchpad isn't an official Android device and uses a rather generic identifying name in Google Play so some apps show as non compatible. You either have to acquire the apk elsewhere or change the build.prop to something with similar hardware to the Touchpad that is an official device.
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This has been a known issue, especially on games. The Touchpad isn't an official Android device and uses a rather generic identifying name in Google Play so some apps show as non compatible. You either have to acquire the apk elsewhere or change the build.prop to something with similar hardware to the Touchpad that is an official device.
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Thought I might suggest the market fix option in Chainfire3D.... I have no idea what Glu games are, but it works for others...
Thanks for the info! I'll look into it some more.
Root and play services all went without a hitch, but I cannot run an app that requires an additional permission normally accessed via settings>security>apps with usage access. It simply does not exist in the settings menu on the kindle. Is there any way to add the option or access the setting another way?
I've attached a screenshot of the app at the point it gets stuck.
Did you ever get this working?
Sorry, this isn't an answer. For some reason, posting a comment isn't working on this site in any web browser. In any case, I've got the exact situation you do (same HW/SW/root). I'm even trying to get the same app working through the google play store that you are, and am seeing the same message. Did you ever find a solution to this? Were you ever able to get MobileFence running on the Fire?
It is not available on Fire OS. Since Amazon has no use for Google play services.You would have to
Install a different ROM. I would ditch Fire Os and set it up as a kids tablet under CM or SlimLP. There is a good thread on how to do it in the Fire forum.
This proves Jeff Bezos is as big a crooks as the rest of them.
This stinks to high heaven!
Actually no, business model is solid even though it displeases some. Purchase a different device If you dislike Amazon's ecosystem.
This should work: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/guide-workaround-apps-access-to-usage-t3535705
I know this is an old post, but since I came across it looking for a solution, I thought I should answer for others that come across this looking for a solution...
I found the answer on this thread, but here's the tl;dr version:
Download App Ops, which also requires Shizuku Manager.
I was trying to install AppLock which has a similar issue and this fixed it for me.
Howdy,
I am looking for some very specific help here on my device and so will try to provide as much information as I can with regards to it.
The basic issue is that I cannot, for any adequate length of time (more than a few minutes or hours), access the Google Play store on my Kindle Fire 5th Gen after it's initial installation. This is on Fire OS 5.3.2.1.
Where I started:
I have followed the instructions on how to install Google Play on the Kindle Fire without requiring root, which is basically the installation of the four required APKs. I used the script posted here on the forums and it worked well enough, but I've also copied the APKs locally to the device and installed them from there using the Local Storage tab in the Docs app.
The issue:
Within a few minutes or hours of having the Google Play store working, I am, for a second time, prompted to accept the Google Play terms and conditions when I load the store app. Once I accept (which I have no real choice otherwise, it just exits the app if I click Decline), I am now faced with an empty store screen and the message saying that there are no apps I can install as my Administrator has not made any available to me.
As I am my own Administrator, I know this is utter nonsense. This is also only the case on my account, as a dummy account that is not part of my G-Suite account does not have this issue, but alas, also does not have my purchases associated with it so this is not a good permanent choice.
My troubleshooting:
This issue seems to be entirely due to some issue with the fact that I am using a G-Suite account (the previously named Google Apps for Work) and not just your average Google account. The "apparent" issue is that the Google Play Store app seems to think I am using an Advanced management device (more info here, support.google.com/a/answer/6328699).
I have spent a few hours on the phone with G-Suite support on this. There was a point I mistakenly had the Advanced management settings on (EMM is the main culprit setting, the ability for the Administrator to control which apps their users can install, users being myself, my wife, and our son), but I have since, and for over a week now, had it off. They say toggling that takes about 24 hours to propagate, so that should be plenty of time. All I really wanted anyway was the Basic management anyway, i.e., being able to remotely locate, wipe, remove account, etc., on my various devices should they be lost or stolen, but I turned on some settings that weren't worded well enough for me to understand, apparently, and so Advanced it was.
Even with the EMM off, I still receive this error. At this point, I have many times over removed both the device from my G-Suite account as well as turned off mobile management entirely (it currently sits off and has since last week) which should have made it about as equivalent to a standard Google account as you can get, and yet still, the second prompting of the terms and service and the subsequent inability to browse the store after more than a short while after it just worked a bit ago.
Workarounds:
I can uninstall all four Google services apps, re-install them, add a dummy account, and get any free apps I want installed on my Kindle added, then uninstall again, re-install again, and add my account back, and then launch the apps and have them work. But again, this doesn't give me access to my purchased apps or add-ins so is not the best choice of action, nor is having to do this whole process again and try to get the Google Play store to work for those precious few minutes before it conks out. Sometimes it's not even a few minutes, but usually it is, but nevertheless, not the best all-around choice.
My hopeful resolution?:
Since neither I nor G-Suite Support seems to know of a setting that is currently preventing this from working, I am wanting to try some other methods that seem logical to me.
1) Putting the Google Play Store on my wife's profile on my Kindle and have it install any apps for all users and not just her profile. That "all users" part is what I am missing how to do. I know the script mentioned above that installs Google Play does install to all users so I know it's possible. Naturally, I would prefer this done through the store and not through manual APKs but beggars can't be choosers. I just want my auto-updates!
2) Allowing the adding and management of multiple Google accounts under my single profile. Currently, only one Google account can be added using the method of installing the Google Play store above, and if I could add mine and a dummy one, it should also work, in theory, by just swapping back and forth on the Play store. Still limited by purchases that are tied to my account (I believe), but not add-ins. I'd have to see how much trouble that is worth, but it could be better than nothing.
3) Anything else someone here on the forums can think of.
I'm open to questions, suggestions, or whatever at this point. I've now spent two weeks on this and yet still no resolution.
Thanks!
Tough issue, but not entirely unexpected behavior given the interdependencies of Google Play services components and undocumented assumptions of how play services/store will be installed on unrooted systems. Layer on G-suite and you have a snakes pit. My guess is one of more of the installed components is self-updating while the others are not. Probably not going to be able to control that behavior on an unrooted device.
May be less involved (and more successful) grabbing a refurb from Amazon Warehouse which typically arrive with older/rootable firmware.
Did you ever find a solution to this? I've got exactly the same problem now... Information seems light out there.
oilerfan21 said:
Did you ever find a solution to this? I've got exactly the same problem now... Information seems light out there.
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No, I never got a fix for this, and unfortunately I have been relegated to just uninstalling all apps that came direct from APKs or just not from the Amazon Appstore. It sucks and makes my Fire not very worth it, despite the nice price tag.
Yesterday I updated to Oreo as the ZTE Axon M update service showed a new update available. On update Google Play would no longer launch and Play Services was not functioning. The Google Application services were pre-installed on the phone when purchased and shipped from AliExpress.
I figured I would reset the phone and on reset all Google functionality was removed.
I figured I would simply install the GAPPS services again and followed this thread:
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...-store-without-gapps-google-services-0176241/
However once everything installs and I launch the Play Store I get a white blank screen.
I would have expected to be prompted for the Google Account login screen and if I check Accounts from settings I can see that there is a Google Account listed but not configured and if I click it I am told to add the account from the relevant app. There is no other shortcut installed though other than Google Play Store which hangs as described previously.
I have tried various other ways to get this sorted out but the end result is the same, inability to add a google account and no way to launch the play store.
I considered YalpStore but its really not fit for purpose because anything that requires the Google Play Services framework will not run.
My phone is not rooted but it appears it does not need to be for GAPPS install functionality. I can see many threads that say this works without the need for rooting (and in any event there are no guides for rooting an Axon M).
My question is simply how do I the Google Play Store and Google Play Services to work on the ZTE Axon M with the Oreo update ? It is driving me nuts and I would never have proceeded with the update if I had realised it would simply be removed.
Same
I'm. Having the same problem I tryed everything
Me too please we want solution
Did you try the same package used for the Xiaomi devices? I have to play on that (it's the rev 2).
sev7en said:
Did you try the same package used for the Xiaomi devices? I have to play on that (it's the rev 2).
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Yes, same problem
baraa_998 said:
Yes, same problem
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I found that one new, tested the old with no success, checking this one: http://en.miui.com/thread-3998-1-1.html
sev7en said:
I found that one new, tested the old with no success, checking this one: http://en.miui.com/thread-3998-1-1.html
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I tried, same issue crashing
I tried multiple methods too, but to no avail.
I do suspect a possibility. The previous time when i managed to get my gapps working when i first got the Chinese set, i had to disable the "Mi-Assistant" App as that was the one preventing my Google Play Services from Auto-Running even though it was set to allow. This time, I can not even see Google Play Services in the Auto-Run Manager and while i tried to force stop and disable the "Mi-Assistant" App, it does not allow me to disable.
I hope this info can help provide some leads to an expert who would be able to help us get back our GApps running again.
Thanks.
I do agree... meanwhile take a look here: https://code.tutsplus.com/articles/10-alternative-android-app-stores--cms-20999
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
Hi, are you on the Android Oreo Update?
Pierpaolo89 said:
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
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yes oreo 8.1 axon m 6 / 128gb. If there is the possibility I can post images of the app. One thing the app inside contains the play store but the apps that you download do not appear on the home of the device but within the app itself
Sounds like an emulator to me.. Would be great if you could provide the images of the app. Any small information helps.
Btw, to all, i did manage to download a GApps installer which seemed promising, cause at least it went into the login page for Google Account. But then the error of requesting to update "Google Play Services" popped up again and again and everything went down the drain again. Will try further and hopefully will have good news.
I'm new on the forum you have to explain to me how to post the images. thank you
Dears... did you see that in the ZTE Store?
Search for Google Play...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4561303&stc=1&d=1532957263
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4561304&stc=1&d=1532957263
Here we are
Pierpaolo89 said:
good morning I found the application with the google play store inside the play store zte. After several attempts I managed to install a heavy game (1.3 GB) as ADERA disabling all the Chinese apps, keeping the display always active, I only downloaded via wi-fi. So I managed to download it without problems (I do not know which of these changes worked). the application has a triangular design with central red, the word Google followed by two Chinese characters
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There is an application in the ZTE Market that installs a pseudo Google Play but it is sandboxed somehow and you have to launch this app to get access to your installs - feels very insecure to me - I just want a clean Google Play on the device
unfortunately for now it is the only solution I found. Otherwise you must use third-party app stores such as amazon, aptoide, etc.
Pierpaolo89 said:
unfortunately for now it is the only solution I found. Otherwise you must use third-party app stores such as amazon, aptoide, etc.
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I posted a link with a few of alternative stores (the best is to get the apk stand-alone ihmo) but if it is to follow that sandbox ways, as suggest, create a new "junky" account just to have it registered.
Any Update??!!
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
lxmeta said:
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
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ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
MishaalRahman said:
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
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Let's try this one, as I neither can upload images nor post regular links yet "https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlBLD_fEYNd1xQL44nzSLry-EZoM"
DKXC said:
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
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Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
lxmeta said:
Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
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Yep I have a Fire 7, 5th generation. Disabled some bloat and removed lockscreen ads, it performs /okay/ now, but great to hear that the new Fire 8 performs good! Excited to test it out on Saturday.
lxmeta said:
ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
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Quick update. Realised that I was sloppy on the OS version: After the initial update it's 6.3.0.1. A reasonably clean Android 7.something
So far pretty much everything seems to work as wished. I usually install apps from the fire store if available, and then from play if I don't have the choice.
I have now Chrome, hangouts, hangouts meet, both with two accounts (enterprise and personal). Goole Play Music, Canon Camera Remote (Fuji is on the fire store) etc running.
Also my microsoft account works well, no issues with onedrive etc... For Skype I'm using the Kindle version.
One note: don't forget to enable the lock screen if you want to add a google enterprise account. Otherwise it will simply fail to log on, without a direct useful error message!
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
Google Play services won't run unless you update Google Play services
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
BilboSwaggins69 said:
I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
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Strange Google Play Books won't even install unless Google Play Services gets updated. Thanks though.
PSULightingGuy said:
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
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I've got the exact same problems on my new fire HD
Same problem! Repeat loop and back to sign in.
JSunsurn said:
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
Same issue continuous login loop
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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I can login to Google in Silk.
All versions are the following:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi (040400-213742215)
Google Play store 11.9.14-all 214884739
I have dual factor authentication on my Google account which requires me saying yes to an authorization prompt on my phone.
That seems to work though because after that I am prompted in the Google Play app with terms of service. When I accept them, it goes back to the login prompt, requiring me to enter my credentials again. This loop didn't end even after five attempts.
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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If you need something now return it and look elsewhere. Otherwise look for a workaround in the coming weeks. This doesn't feel like a showstopper issue.
PSULightingGuy said:
Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Sorry to hear. Looks like something is behaving differently on your Fire.
You could try a complete reset and do it all over again if you are feeling adventurous.. Though I have heard that doing the same thing all over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity
I do not 2FA on my google account, so that could have triggered it.
btw.: Did you also have the message about updating google play service after google play store the first time? Apparently my google play services framework still seems to have the same version number... Just looking for things that went differently on your setup.
Returning sounds like a good plan if an android tablet is what you really want.
According to this article, Google apps are not supposed to work on the newest Amazon devices. It also mentions something called "Yalp Store" which might be interesting.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/new...-amazon-no-more-android-apps-fire-os-0183744/
Also: I am not sure if the Launcher Hijack apk v.3 is working on the new Fire 8, but I found a new launcher called "Flick Launcher" which allows you to set a custom action for the home button. Set the home button to open Flick Launcher (open itself), and it will go to home screen. It will require the pro version which is $2.50. I don't have a Fire 8 8th gen to test it on, but it does work on my Fire 7 7th gen, and my Moto E Play. It's very slow getting to the home screen on the Fire 7, which has Lollipop, but it's a lot faster on my phone, which has Oreo, so it might be faster on Nougat. I am not sure if this is a definite solution, but it could be.