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moto x not-so-dev edition, what is RSDlite trick?

I simply want to allow my phone to accept any gpt.bin.
i honestly do not care about what it thinks about "downgraded security version".
Is there anyway to do that with a plain fastboot client/interface?
what does RSD does for work around that?
thank you!

sigh... it does not F*** allow it, but DO screw up something.
now regular boot just gives me a black screen. while 'factory' and 'bp tools' boot just fine to my fully working system rom (stock 4.4.3)

What exactly have you had in your device, flashed, etc...And what you are trying to accomplish.
Need some more details.
And the reason security is set up like that is cause downgrading the Moto X can easily brick your device. Many members have bricked trying to downgrade, or after managing to downgrade...have bricked later.
Without the errors, this section would be overflowing with brick threads. ?

KJ said:
What exactly have you had in your device, flashed, etc...And what you are trying to accomplish.
Need some more details.
And the reason security is set up like that is cause downgrading the Moto X can easily brick your device. Many members have bricked trying to downgrade, or after managing to downgrade...have bricked later.
Without the errors, this section would be overflowing with brick threads. ?
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fair point. Though i'm still amazed how phone manufacturers manage to get a device bricked by installing software... oh well.
so, my phone history is:
bought moto x dev.
received 4.4.3 OTA update over the 4.4.2 that shipped with it.
flashed twrp because i like image backups and to be able to do minimally required things like ssh tunels and firewall.
and that is pretty much it. i think at some point i used gravitybox when i had 4.4.2 to see what it was about and then reflashed the factory image on top.
So now i wanted to do 2 things.
1. flash the 4.4.4 OTA to see what it is like.
2. if 4.4.4 stock was not decent, i will probably flash a 4.4.2 or whatever the latest CM is for that phone.
edit: ok, forgot to be specific. i'm at step 1 of option 1 still. which is flash 4.4.2 (latest version on the lame motorola stock image repo) and then acept the 4.4.4 OTA. but the stock 4.4.2 gpt.bin triggers that warning.

You can't flash back to 4.4.2. That could/will brick you. And definitely would brick you if you did manage to flash 4.4.2 and then took an ota.
Again, the most talked about subject , next to bootloader unlocking, in the X section.

KJ said:
You can't flash back to 4.4.2. That could/will brick you. And definitely would brick you if you did manage to flash 4.4.2 and then took an ota.
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You can return to a 4.4.2 nandroid after taking the 4.4.4 OTA if your bootloader is unlocked. I just did it last night.
My story:
1) Unlocked bootloader and rooted with TWRP/SuperSU on 4.4.2;
2) Made a 4.4.2 nandroid and saved it to my PC;
3) Returned to stock 4.4.2 and took the 4.4.4 OTA;
4) Made a 4.4.4 nandroid and saved it to my PC;
5) Inadvertently wiped System partition and Internal Storage;
6) Flashed 4.4.4 system.img from the SBF using mfastboot while in bootloader mode to return to 4.4.4 system;
7) Restored phone to 4.4.2 using TWRP and my 4.4.2 nandroid.
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gcbxda said:
sigh... it does not F*** allow it, but DO screw up something.
now regular boot just gives me a black screen. while 'factory' and 'bp tools' boot just fine to my fully working system rom (stock 4.4.3)
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I am unclear on what you did to get to this point.

Wansanta said:
You can return to a 4.4.2 nandroid after taking the 4.4.4 OTA if your bootloader is unlocked. I just did it last night.
My story:
1) Unlocked bootloader and rooted with TWRP/SuperSU on 4.4.2;
2) Made a 4.4.2 nandroid and saved it to my PC;
3) Returned to stock 4.4.2 and took the 4.4.4 OTA;
4) Made a 4.4.4 nandroid and saved it to my PC;
5) Inadvertently wiped System partition and Internal Storage;
6) Flashed 4.4.4 system.img from the SBF using mfastboot while in bootloader mode to return to 4.4.4 system;
7) Restored phone to 4.4.2 using TWRP and my 4.4.2 nandroid.
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I am unclear on what you did to get to this point.
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Ok, but one problem. If you take an ota to a new version now it WILL brick. So you are now stuck on 4.4.2. That is the problem with downgrading.
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk

AGISCI said:
Ok, but one problem. If you take an ota to a new version now it WILL brick. So you are now stuck on 4.4.2. That is the problem with downgrading.
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Not true - I can restore back to my 4.4.4 nandroid. I have done it 3 times so far trying to debug the problem with my text messages being restored. I can go back and forth b/t my 4.4.2 nandroid and my 4.4.4 nandroid with no problems.

Wansanta said:
Not true - I can restore back to my 4.4.4 nandroid. I have done it 3 times so far trying to debug the problem with my text messages being restored. I can go back and forth b/t my 4.4.2 nandroid and my 4.4.4 nandroid with no problems.
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NOT THE SAME AS FIRMWARE!!
Firmware contains the bootloader, not so with a nandroid
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A nandroid can be flashed down NO PROBLEMO.

aviwdoowks said:
NOT THE SAME AS FIRMWARE!!
Firmware contains the bootloader, not so with a nandroid
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First, he said I was stuck on 4.4.2, and that is what I was responding to. I am not stuck on 4.4.2 - I can go back and forth b/t 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 using my nandroids.
Second, for the record after I took the OTA I had to flash the 4.4.4 system.img from the 4.4.4 sbf b/c I inadvertently wiped my system partition. I tried using RSDLite but it would not recognize my device. When I was in bootloader mode, adb would not recognize my device either. But I was able to use mfastboot to flash the 4.4.4 system.img. After flashing the 4.4.4 system.img from the sbf, I was able to restore back to 4.4.2 system using my nandroid.
So you can selectively flash the sbf files to return to a previous version of android - you don't have to flash the bootloader. My bootloader is 30:B7 and you CAN run 4.4.2 system after you have upgraded to the 4.4.4 bootloader IF you are unlocked and rooted. I don't know what happens if you are not.

if when you flash an image you pretty much re-partition the whole flash memory (gpt), install the bootloader and system... what exactly 'bricks' the phone with downgrade/upgrade?

gcbxda said:
if when you flash an image you pretty much re-partition the whole flash memory (gpt), install the bootloader and system... what exactly 'bricks' the phone with downgrade/upgrade?
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See links in my next post.

gcbxda said:
if when you flash an image you pretty much re-partition the whole flash memory (gpt), install the bootloader and system... what exactly 'bricks' the phone with downgrade/upgrade?
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These links explain it better than I did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50734236&postcount=29
Q9Nap said:
gpt is the partition table that contains, among other things, the security versions for all other partitions. motoboot contains the various bootloader parts and also contains the security version for gpt that is checked on every boot.
they really only affect locked devices in that they prevent a locked device from being able to downgrade.
although they are not revertible once upgraded, they really don't affect unlocked devices because having the bootloader unlocked allows flashing whatever you want.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49990727&postcount=33
Q9Nap said:
Gpt is the partition table. It contains security version for the other partitions and prevents downgrading on locked devices. It has a security version itself which is checked at boot. Once it is upgraded, it can't be reverted, but isn't really necessary on unlocked devices since the boot loader will allow flashing anything.
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I believe in this link where Q9Nap says partition, he means partition table:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50734615&postcount=31
Q9Nap said:
yes security version is usually updated with newer builds, but not always. i don't know what moto uses for criteria to determine whether to increase it or not, i don't work for moto.
attempting to flash a lower security version partition will not brick, it will fail to flash, giving the "failed preflash validation" error message.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50721154&postcount=21
Q9Nap said:
it is almost impossible to permanently brick an unlocked device. pretty much the only way you could would be to flash an erroneous file to the bootloader partition, preventing the ability to access the bootloader menu.
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If you want to go back to 4.4.2, just flash the 4.4.2 boot.img and system.img from the 4.4.2 fxz; it will work fine with the updated bootloader and radio.

Q9Nap said:
If you want to go back to 4.4.2, just flash the 4.4.2 boot.img and system.img from the 4.4.2 fxz; it will work fine with the updated bootloader and radio.
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The op in this thread wants to be able to flash any gpt.bin he wants to. He is being told by others if he does that he will brick. I was quoting you b/c he asked why it would brick and I was showing him that it won't brick, it will just fail and also some of your quotes explain why it will fail. You said it better than I could so I quoted you. Sorry if it was confusing for me to quote you from other threads in this thread.
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gcbxda said:
sigh... it does not F*** allow it, but DO screw up something.
now regular boot just gives me a black screen. while 'factory' and 'bp tools' boot just fine to my fully working system rom (stock 4.4.3)
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This is another one of @Q9Nap quotes:
with the system booted to a blank screen, press and hold the power button until you see the screen flicker, about 10 seconds.
as soon as it does, quickly release power button, press and hold volume down and then press and hold power.
hold both volume down and power for a few seconds, then release.
you should be in bootloader menu.
it might take a few tries, but you will get it.

Wansanta said:
The op in this thread wants to be able to flash any gpt.bin he wants to. He is being told by others if he does that he will brick. I was quoting you b/c he asked why it would brick and I was showing him that it won't brick, it will just fail and also some of your quotes explain why it will fail. You said it better than I could so I quoted you. Sorry if it was confusing for me to quote you from other threads in this thread.
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yeah it won't brick, it will just fail to flash.
as long as you can access fastboot mode, you're not totally bricked.

Q9Nap said:
yeah it won't brick, it will just fail to flash.
as long as you can access fastboot mode, you're not totally bricked.
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It did mess something up for him b/c now a regular boot gives him a blank screen. So I just posted your instructions on how to get from the blank screen to bootloader mode.

Wansanta said:
It did mess something up for him b/c now a regular boot gives him a blank screen. So I just posted your instructions on how to get from the blank screen to bootloader mode.
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you have to flash boot.img and system.img from the same version.
in addition, you should wipe cache and dalvik-cache.
if there are still issues, you should wipe data also.

THanks a lot for all the info! much apreciated. I think i'm still confused by the horrible reuse of terms all around android history.
When you say boot nowadays, do you mean the fastboot firmware? i wasn't able to flash it some time ago... granted, i'm a fossil on android knowledge nowadays.
Q9Nap said:
you have to flash boot.img and system.img from the same version.
in addition, you should wipe cache and dalvik-cache.
if there are still issues, you should wipe data also.
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THis is my problem. "from the same version".
phone is on 4.4.3.
lousy motorola only provides dev phone images to 4.4.2 (and 4.2.2). even though they distributed 4.4.3 for ages and now are roling out 4.4.4
There is nothing from the same version i can flash. specially if i want to try the OTA 4.4.4

gcbxda said:
THanks a lot for all the info! much apreciated. I think i'm still confused by the horrible reuse of terms all around android history.
When you say boot nowadays, do you mean the fastboot firmware? i wasn't able to flash it some time ago... granted, i'm a fossil on android knowledge nowadays.
THis is my problem. "from the same version".
phone is on 4.4.3.
lousy motorola only provides dev phone images to 4.4.2 (and 4.2.2). even though they distributed 4.4.3 for ages and now are roling out 4.4.4
There is nothing from the same version i can flash. specially if i want to try the OTA 4.4.4
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I don't think you mentioned what carrier you're using.
Moto sux at updating their fxz files, that's why there is firmware team:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
WARNING! shameless plug forthcoming....
Also feel free to try my Google Play edition fxz:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/fxz-xt1053-xt1060-google-play-edition-4-t2715488

[Q] recovery for 4.4.3

Hi guys
i am on 4.4.3 in moto x and i received 4.4.4 for ota but i cant update because i unlocked bootloader and twrp in recovery,
how do i install 4.4.3,
i think install a recovery stock but i did not find recovery stock for 4.4.3 only for 4.4.2
or reinstall all stock for 4.4.2 make it downgrade.
what do you think?

You can likely find 4.4.3 firmware or even 4.4.4 and flash it manually from the links here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2923347
If you downgrade you could brick. If you successfully downgrade and take an OTA, you will definitely brick.
So not a wise choice. ?
Also, questions go in the Q&A section. For future reference. I'll ask this be moved. ?
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This guide has sections for many tasks, including flashing firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
If you use the fastboot method, you could likely just flash your stock recovery once you get the proper firmware, and if you need to, mfastboot can flash the system image. Should be good for OTA then.
But again, if you find the 4.4.4 firmware for your model... Flashing it fresh manually is always my preference. ?

sorry i was think posted on Q&A,
so i install stock 4.4.3 and began wait for ota 4.4.4
or directly flash 4.4.4?
well, are not problem install directly 4.4.4 and blick mi phone?
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sorry i dont see the continuation answer
so, i try to find the 4.4.4 fw for mi motox and flashing via rsd??

htc-desire5 said:
sorry i was think posted on Q&A,
so i install stock 4.4.3 and began wait for ota 4.4.4
or directly flash 4.4.4?
well, are not problem install directly 4.4.4 and blick mi phone?
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sorry i dont see the continuation answer
so, i try to find the 4.4.4 fw for mi motox and flashing via rsd??
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If you find the proper 4.4.4 for your device, that's how I personally prefer to do it.
Be aware it'll wipe your device with RSD though. Apps, pics, music, whatever... Gone . So you can move anything you want to keep to your PC.
Using the fastboot /mfastboot method will not wipe your stuff. Pics, music and everything. As long as you don't erase or flash userdata. Apps still gone though.
Your choice. See the guide I linked for instructions.
Good luck!
And once on 4.4.4...you can not ever downgrade.

thanks, i didnt find 4.4.4 for mi device only 4.4.3 the same like i use today,
i can use rds for flash the 4.4.3 and wait for ota without any problems?

I'm pretty sure only the XT1053 aka TMobile/Developer Edition has a 4.4.3 firmware. Everyone else went from.4.4.2 straight to 4.4.4.
You can confirm by checking About and looking at firmware version it should end with Retail.en.US
If you just need the 4.4.3 recovery to flash and upgrade you can find it in the 4.4.4 OTA thread here under Reminders: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/xt1053-4-4-4-ota-update-zip-t2885484
If you want the 4.4.4 firmware you can find it in this discussion second post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/help-xt1053-half-downgraded-t2934605

Yup ?
Same warning, RSD will erase everything on your phone. It will be as it was the day you bought it.

thanks
@dtg7 a screenshoot
mi device has Retail.en.US.
so if i understand, i can put directly 4.4.4 from this post??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/help-xt1053-half-downgraded-t2934605

If you are T-Mobile, yup.
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Not another carrier.

really not, im from mexico and use telmex but really i dont why t-mobile.

I would wait for your firmware, unless someone confirms T-Mobile will work for you. If your radio doesn't work, or anything else, you'll be stuck on T-Mobile 4.4.4 and won't be able to then flash your stock 4.4.3 anymore.
Patience. You aren't really missing out on anything. ?

@Darth thank really i want update because the ota update appear and that's annoying, but well i try with 4.4.3 flash rsd and wait for ota in stock
well if i became a 4.4.4 for root only need supersu??
i question that if its convenient upgrade o wait in 4.4.3

htc-desire5 said:
@Darth thank really i want update because the ota update appear and that's annoying, but well i try with 4.4.3 flash rsd and wait for ota in stock
well if i became a 4.4.4 for root only need supersu??
i question that if its convenient upgrade o wait in 4.4.3
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You're bootloader is definitely unlocked? Then yes, rooting is easy on 4.4.4.
?

wonder, thanks for everything @Darth
a moderator close that thread, my question was solved.

[Q] Moto X AT&T is STUCK on Bootloader! [HELP]

Hi guys, yesterday i tried to install ROM "XT1058_GHOST_RETBR_5.1_LPA23.12-15_cid12_CFC.xml" to my moto X 1058 At&T (android 4.4.4) with RSD litle.
It failed and now i only can turn on the phone and it goes to bootloader menu and i cant do anything. I can connect it to my PC and RSD detect it but i cant put any kind of ROM ((
I know that my moto x is not dead yet i have hope u.u :crying:
Please someone can help me? :crying:
PS: SORRY MY ENGLISH
PS2: I ADD A SCREENSHOT WITH SOME DETAILS ABOUT MY MOTO X after DO what i explain.

First off, you have an ATT XT1058... why are you trying to flash XT1058_GHOST_RETBR.... which is for RETAIL BRAZIL!?!
Is your bootloader locked or unlocked?
EDIT: never mind, I read here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61834453&postcount=78 then you have a locked bootloader...
so my advice...
Try to boot into stock recovery, and wipe cache, and reboot.
If that doesn't work.. try a factory reset (also from inside stock recovery) NOTE: this will delete your data, apps, pix, music, anything on the phone's /sdcard... etc..
Next, would be to try to re-flash Stock ATT 4.4.4 SBF using mfastboot (see the requirements and option 5 in post 2 of -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425 )
If that doesn't work... then you have no choice but to wait until the 5.1 SBF for ATT XT1058 leaks and is posted... and flash that using mFastboot.

KidJoe said:
First off, you have an ATT XT1058... why are you trying to flash XT1058_GHOST_RETBR.... which is for RETAIL BRAZIL!?!
Is your bootloader locked or unlocked?
EDIT: never mind, I read here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61834453&postcount=78 then you have a locked bootloader...
so my advice...
Try to boot into stock recovery, and wipe cache, and reboot.
If that doesn't work.. try a factory reset (also from inside stock recovery) NOTE: this will delete your data, apps, pix, music, anything on the phone's /sdcard... etc..
Next, would be to try to re-flash Stock ATT 4.4.4 SBF using mfastboot (see the requirements and option 5 in post 2 of -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425 )
If that doesn't work... then you have no choice but to wait until the 5.1 SBF for ATT XT1058 leaks and is posted... and flash that using mFastboot.
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Into bootloader any option work, only for get pictures from IMEI, ID, etc.
I will try re flash stock ATT using mfastboot cause trying do this in RSD doesnt work
One friend told me he solved his problem unlocking bootloader by a program that unlock it automatic, then he instaled android 4.4.4.
My question is that if can i do what you are telling me cause in stock recovery appear 30.BE unde AP Fastboot Flash Mode (s) line. And it mean 30.BE= android 5.1 brazil so maybe i have to do a downgrade?
i dont know if you undestand me.
Thanks for your time

NEW INFO
i will writte more datails:
After i tryed install failed Brasil ROM the info about my cellphone is the next:
Bootloader version: 30.BE (sha-34b7ccb, 2015-04-22 12:57:17)
Bootloader is: LOCKED (and can´t be unlocked by motorola steps cause my moto x is AT&T)
Thinking about it and looking for a lot places from 2 days i have next conclusion:
How now i have bootloader version "30.BE" i have two options:
First: Downgrade android but i need unlocked bootloader for do it.
Second option: Wait until ROM android 5.1 by AT&T (i read update is ready but i cant find ROM, i only found ZIP for put in my internal memory and update android from old android but i cant access to my internal memory cause my PC does recognized like memory device)
What do you think guys?

zloopa said:
Into bootloader any option work, only for get pictures from IMEI, ID, etc.
I will try re flash stock ATT using mfastboot cause trying do this in RSD doesnt work
One friend told me he solved his problem unlocking bootloader by a program that unlock it automatic, then he instaled android 4.4.4.
My question is that if can i do what you are telling me cause in stock recovery appear 30.BE unde AP Fastboot Flash Mode (s) line. And it mean 30.BE= android 5.1 brazil so maybe i have to do a downgrade?
i dont know if you undestand me.
Thanks for your time
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I can tell that English (or at least USA Engish) isn't your primary language, so hopefully you can understand me too
An ATT XT1058 that has never been updated to 4.4.4 or above can use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. Since you've had 4.4.4 and above on there, you can't unlock.
30.BE is a 5.1 bootloader. That is part of your problem. Somehow, parts of the XT1058_GHOST_RETBR... 5.1 SBF did flash to your phone, but not all of it..
Are you sure you didn't unlock your bootloader? Boot to FastbootAP/Bootloader screen and tell me what you see.. Do you see LOCKED STATUS 0, or Locked Status 2, or Unlocked Status 3?
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zloopa said:
i will writte more datails:
After i tryed install failed Brasil ROM the info about my cellphone is the next:
Bootloader version: 30.BE (sha-34b7ccb, 2015-04-22 12:57:17)
Bootloader is: LOCKED (and can´t be unlocked by motorola steps cause my moto x is AT&T)
Thinking about it and looking for a lot places from 2 days i have next conclusion:
How now i have bootloader version "30.BE" i have two options:
First: Downgrade android but i need unlocked bootloader for do it.
Second option: Wait until ROM android 5.1 by AT&T (i read update is ready but i cant find ROM, i only found ZIP for put in my internal memory and update android from old android but i cant access to my internal memory cause my PC does recognized like memory device)
What do you think guys?
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Your first option is not correct. You can't fully downgrade, even with an unlocked bootloader. You can partially downgrade, but that isn't 100% safe. There is a very good chance it wont work, or you'll brick even worse when trying to downgrade, or later when taking the OTA.
For your second option.. Correct. As of yet, the FULL SBF of 5.1 for ATT hasn't leaked. Only the OTA Zip file which is an incremental update, not a full update, and therefore can't be used to recover in this state. Sit tight. Its only a matter of time.
I know you probably want to use your phone NOW, so waiting isn't a good option... but it is likely your only SAFE option right now.

KidJoe said:
I can tell that English (or at least USA Engish) isn't your primary language, so hopefully you can understand me too
An ATT XT1058 that has never been updated to 4.4.4 or above can use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. Since you've had 4.4.4 and above on there, you can't unlock.
30.BE is a 5.1 bootloader. That is part of your problem. Somehow, parts of the XT1058_GHOST_RETBR... 5.1 SBF did flash to your phone, but not all of it..
Are you sure you didn't unlock your bootloader? Boot to FastbootAP/Bootloader screen and tell me what you see.. Do you see LOCKED STATUS 0, or Locked Status 2, or Unlocked Status 3?
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Your first option is not correct. You can't fully downgrade, even with an unlocked bootloader. You can partially downgrade, but that isn't 100% safe. There is a very good chance it wont work, or you'll brick even worse when trying to downgrade, or later when taking the OTA.
For your second option.. Correct. As of yet, the FULL SBF of 5.1 for ATT hasn't leaked. Only the OTA Zip file which is an incremental update, not a full update, and therefore can't be used to recover in this state. Sit tight. Its only a matter of time.
I know you probably want to use your phone NOW, so waiting isn't a good option... but it is likely your only SAFE option right now.
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I never tried to unlock bootloader and before start to trying to upgrade to 5.1 brazil, bootloader appear "DEVICE IS: LOCKED" and now appear the same "LOCKED AND STATUS 0". (check the image if you can)
The question now is: maybe you know if the solution is wait until 5.1 Android for AT&T or even if i have this ROM maybe exist a possibility that my moto doesn't get fix? Maybe the question is hard to confirm 100% but maybe it is a 90 % possible that my moto get fix with this way.
I love this phone but i was too newbie and I confused ways to change ANDROID by mys XPERIA and HTC's phones.

zloopa said:
I never tried to unlock bootloader and before start to trying to upgrade to 5.1 brazil, bootloader appear "DEVICE IS: LOCKED" and now appear the same "LOCKED AND STATUS 0". (check the image if you can)
The question now is: maybe you know if the solution is wait until 5.1 Android for AT&T or even if i have this ROM maybe exist a possibility that my moto doesn't get fix? Maybe the question is hard to confirm 100% but maybe it is a 90 % possible that my moto get fix with this way.
I love this phone but i was too newbie and I confused ways to change ANDROID by mys XPERIA and HTC's phones.
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I hate to say it, but yeah, you're likely stuck until an ATT 5.1 SBF is posted somewhere.

KidJoe said:
I hate to say it, but yeah, you're likely stuck until an ATT 5.1 SBF is posted somewhere.
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I have this:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/2kmrq89bx1h/XT1058_GHOST_ATT_5.1_LPA23.12-21.1_cid1_CFC.xml.zip
What do you recommed to do?
Whit RSD or do you have some guide for fix my cellphone

zloopa said:
I have this:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/2kmrq89bx1h/XT1058_GHOST_ATT_5.1_LPA23.12-21.1_cid1_CFC.xml.zip
What do you recommed to do?
Whit RSD or do you have some guide for fix my cellphone
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As I said earlier... flash using mfastboot (see the requirements and option 5 in post 2 of -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/faq-how-to-prepare-ota-update-carriers-t3126425 ) just use that 5.1 SBF... and I would consider including the mfastboot erase userdata command, or doing a factory reset after you flash... Yes it will erase your data, apps, SDCard, etc...

GHOST_ATT_5.1_LPA23.12-21.1_cid1_CFC.xml
also failed
error on GPT ..
Bootloader 30BE
accidentally flashed verizon Lollipop bootloader on it ..
now LP 5.1 ATT not working on it

aamszia said:
GHOST_ATT_5.1_LPA23.12-21.1_cid1_CFC.xml
also failed
error on GPT ..
Bootloader 30BE
accidentally flashed verizon Lollipop bootloader on it ..
now LP 5.1 ATT not working on it
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Hi in same situation. Did u fixed it?

Moto G 2nd Gen -{ XT1068 }- (Hard Bricked BoatLoader ) !

Hi .
Downgrading From 6 to 5.0.1 worked ,
upgrading to 5.1 caused a hard brick BoatLader .
Customer Service Wont Fix cause my phone 1 month out of warranty , So. i go moto G forume Website and they said ( Thread Closed )
I belive They Never Have Planed to fix them phone becuase the only solution giving now is replacing MotherBoard ~! ..
idk why motorola using this method while all other companies never used the same way ! ..
For Now , Bye Bye Motorola . i'll switch to Samsung Now Since Samsung Never Have This Issue .
i hope someone who Cares here From our devlopers to help people out to fix this issue . i know unlocking BoatLoader is somehting we agreed for but doesn't mean we put our phone on Trash .
Thanks .
​

you took the words right out of my mouth. go **** the MOTO....

Romiui said:
Customer Service Wont Fix cause my phone 1 month out of warranty , So. i go moto G forume Website and they said ( Thread Closed )​
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Welcome to the fast growing hard brick club. You can do only one thing, never buy a motorola product again. ​

zman01 said:
Welcome to the fast growing hard brick club. You can do only one thing, never buy a motorola product again.
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Now I think that I am on the way to hardbrick my moto xt1068. cause, I checked the bootloader version everytime I flashed, first I was on cm12.1 [BL v48.82], so I flashed the stock 5.0.2 with stagefright in order to update to indian MM [Then BL was v48.83], now when I updated to Indian MM [BL was on v48.86].
But I again wanted to go on cm, so flashed the TWRP, then flashed xperiaZ5G rom[Android v5.1.1], and checked the BL [was on same v48.86 ].
Now i wanna know that if flash stock 5.0.2 on v48.86 BL will that hardbrick?
and if is there any failproof method to flash LP roms or stock LP without causing hardbrick, what're those?
Thank You.
- ArtRahul

ArtRahul said:
Now I think that I am on the way to hardbrick my moto xt1068. cause, I checked the bootloader version everytime I flashed, first I was on cm12.1 [BL v48.82], so I flashed the stock 5.0.2 with stagefright in order to update to indian MM [Then BL was v48.83], now when I updated to Indian MM [BL was on v48.86].
But I again wanted to go on cm, so flashed the TWRP, then flashed xperiaZ5G rom[Android v5.1.1], and checked the BL [was on same v48.86 ].
Now i wanna know that if flash stock 5.0.2 on v48.86 BL will that hardbrick?
and if is there any failproof method to flash LP roms or stock LP without causing hardbrick, what're those?
Thank You.
- ArtRahul
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Hi
Just make sure you're not downgrading your bootloader.. Don't include gpt.img and motoboot.img while flashing the 5.0.2. And after that never install update via OTA.

zman01 said:
Hi
Just make sure you're not downgrading your bootloader.. Don't include gpt.img and motoboot.img while flashing the 5.0.2. And after that never install update via OTA.
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So if something goes wrong, I can still flash stock, but excluding gpt.bin and motoboot.img (will that work?)
and I can still flash custom recoveries, roms, etc. right?

ArtRahul said:
So if something goes wrong, I can still flash stock, but excluding gpt.bin and motoboot.img (will that work?)
and I can still flash custom recoveries, roms, etc. right?
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Yep, just make sure you're not downgrading your bootloader and don't update your phone via OTA and you'll be fine.

zman01 said:
Yep, just make sure you're not downgrading your bootloader and don't update your phone via OTA and you'll be fine.
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my current bootloader is 48.86 i used xt1069 's marshmallow previously
I FLASHED XT1068_TITAN_RETAILDSDS_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16.3_Easy_Installer.zip ON BOOTLOADER 48.86 VIA FASTBOOT IT GIVES ME MSG IN PINK ( version downgrade for _gpt and version downgrade for tz) and rest is worked fine it successfully booted into the stock 5.0.2 after that i updated soak test update of 6.0 by coping blurred version into sd card and checking it by going into settings >about phones >system updates
so not faced any problem as of now i m sure what i done i have a video proof also that i flashed (XT1068_TITAN_RETAILDSDS_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16.3_Easy_Installer.zip ON BOOTLOADER 48.86)

Exactly Same with me....
:crying::crying::crying:
Romiui said:
Hi .
Downgrading From 6 to 5.0.1 worked ,
upgrading to 5.1 caused a hard brick BoatLader .
Customer Service Wont Fix cause my phone 1 month out of warranty , So. i go moto G forume Website and they said ( Thread Closed )
I belive They Never Have Planed to fix them phone becuase the only solution giving now is replacing MotherBoard ~! ..
idk why motorola using this method while all other companies never used the same way ! ..
For Now , Bye Bye Motorola . i'll switch to Samsung Now Since Samsung Never Have This Issue .
i hope someone who Cares here From our devlopers to help people out to fix this issue . i know unlocking BoatLoader is somehting we agreed for but doesn't mean we put our phone on Trash .
Thanks .
​
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I will never prefer MOTO in my life ever,,,,..... Just F*** Off Moto...
Moto is just a MOney oriented company...thats y they put so much restrictions on its devices....that even official OTA update Hard Bricked the phone..... Unbelievable...

Help on XT1254 OTA

Hi guys,
I (and some of my friends) had a problem with XT1254:
1. We updated to 6.0.1 via recovery with update.zip. This process had successfully done.
2. Several felt something wrong with new 6.0.1 system, so they re-updated via recovery again (still the same update.zip). This made the system dead. They could not enter system, except bootloader and recovery. The problem is that source system needs to be Lollipop SU4TL-49 so the re-update process will fail.
3. I did like them and tried to find the solution from old methods:
- tried to downgrade to 5.1;
- tried to flash new 6.0.1 system.img;
- deleted some lines in "updater-script" and tried to sideload via recovery;
but all failed because of "invalid signed image" (for both RSD and fastboot). The partion, boot, kernel have been the newest ones.
4. I tried to downgrade my XT1060 to Kitkat (another mine), and it also failed with flashing system.img. I had to flash the Lollipop's system.img and the problem solved.
Conclusion:
1. Unlock bootloader and flash TWRP will solved the problem for XT1254. The phone could not boot to system so buying a unique key is the only solution (but how to buy?).
2. Wait for the 6.0.1 flash file (xml) then flash via RSD. Several security patches from Verizon may lock the downgrade process.
3. Can some one give other solutions?
Thanks guys!!!!

mr_5kool said:
Hi guys,
I (and some of my friends) had a problem with XT1254:
1. We updated to 6.0.1 via recovery with update.zip. This process had successfully done.
2. Several felt something wrong with new 6.0.1 system, so they re-updated via recovery again (still the same update.zip). This made the system dead. They could not enter system, except bootloader and recovery. The problem is that source system needs to be Lollipop SU4TL-49 so the re-update process will fail.
3. I did like them and tried to find the solution from old methods:
- tried to downgrade to 5.1;
- tried to flash new 6.0.1 system.img;
- deleted some lines in "updater-script" and tried to sideload via recovery;
but all failed because of "invalid signed image" (for both RSD and fastboot). The partion, boot, kernel have been the newest ones.
4. I tried to downgrade my XT1060 to Kitkat (another mine), and it also failed with flashing system.img. I had to flash the Lollipop's system.img and the problem solved.
Conclusion:
1. Unlock bootloader and flash TWRP will solved the problem for XT1254. The phone could not boot to system so buying a unique key is the only solution (but how to buy?).
2. Wait for the 6.0.1 flash file (xml) then flash via RSD. Several security patches from Verizon may lock the downgrade process.
3. Can some one give other solutions?
Thanks guys!!!!
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me too
i updated to 6.0.1 via recovery with update.zip. This process had successfully done and re-updated via recovery again (still the same update.zip) and i factory reset tin recovery so it stuck screen 'erasing...'They could not enter system, except bootloader and recovery vesersion (6.0.1),can not into apply update sdcard , it turn e:\unkown volum path [sdcard]... and I did like them and tried to find the solution from old methods:
- tried to downgrade to 5.1;
- tried to flash new 6.0.1 system.img;
but all failed because of "invalid signed image" (for both RSD and fastboot). The partion, boot, kernel have been the newest ones.
Conclusion:
1. Unlock bootloader and flash TWRP will solved the problem for XT1254. The phone could not boot to system so buying a unique key is the only solution (but how to buy?).
2. Wait for the 6.0.1 flash file (xml) then flash via RSD. Several security patches from Verizon may lock the downgrade process.
3. Can some one give other solutions?

longbin said:
1. Unlock bootloader and flash TWRP will solved the problem for XT1254. The phone could not boot to system so buying a unique key is the only solution (but how to buy?).
2. Wait for the 6.0.1 flash file (xml) then flash via RSD. Several security patches from Verizon may lock the downgrade process.
3. Can some one give other solutions?
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1. I have never heard of anyone selling bootloader unlock keys for the XT1254. If you want to unlock your bootloader, Sunshine is your only option, and as of right now it will only work on lollipop builds. If your phone is on marshmallow, Sunshine will not work. If your phone cannot boot, it won't work no matter what build you're on.
2. If your phone is bricked and on marshmallow, waiting for the full firmware package is your only option. However, a downgrade to a previous firmware with a locked bootloader isn't, and has never been, possible.

mr_5kool said:
Conclusion:
1. Unlock bootloader and flash TWRP will solved the problem for XT1254. The phone could not boot to system so buying a unique key is the only solution (but how to buy?).
2. Wait for the 6.0.1 flash file (xml) then flash via RSD. Several security patches from Verizon may lock the downgrade process.
3. Can some one give other solutions?
Thanks guys!!!!
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unlock the bootloader and install TWRP BEFORE doing any updates, while still on Lollipop. That is the only safe, logical answer. An unlocked bootloader -- especially with custom recovery -- will let you do lot of things and is more forgiving of mistakes than a locked bootloader.
We keep telling people that and they won't believe us.
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TheSt33v said:
If your phone is bricked and on marshmallow, waiting for the full firmware package is your only option. However, a downgrade to a previous firmware with a locked bootloader isn't, and has never been, possible.
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Right. Several people who didn't like Lollipop but preferred the original Kitkat "speed", "battery life" or whatever successfully downgraded back to 4.4.4 -- but only AFTER they unlocked their bootloader. Even then you have to make sure you don't flash the old gpt.bin in ADB, but downgrading is possible with an UNlocked bootloader.
Even when flashing XT1250 firmware over XT1254 or vice versa, it CAN be done with a locked bootloader, but if you mess something up you are in big trouble. UNlocked bootloader? Just do it again, correcting your mistake the next time.
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TheSt33v said:
1. I have never heard of anyone selling bootloader unlock keys for the XT1254.
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There was a guy on some website who was selling some Verizon keys a long time ago, known as "the Chinaman". He disappeared.
China Middleman Back??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/china-middleman-t2751177
dschill said:
Well the china man added me back on skype today. And sadly said that he can no longer get the codes and refunded my 45$ via paypal.
Heres a little bit of the skype transcipt
[12:08:22 PM] live:dschillinrecovery: k i just got the refund
[12:08:25 PM] live:dschillinrecovery: so you cant get the code any more?
[12:12:41 PM] VIP-UNLOCK: No time to deal with the accident, we default to a refund
[12:13:08 PM] VIP-UNLOCK: Sorry, goodbye
[12:13:32 PM] live:dschillinrecovery: Its alright. Thanks for the refund though. Let me know if you can ever get the codes again
Guess the best we can do for now is to wait for jcase and sunshine to release the 3.0 version.
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and another thread discussing same guy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/4-1-vzw-att-moto-maker-bootloader-t2680651
The process seems to involve sending approximately $45 to a Chinese middle-man via eBay and another website, along with your IMEI and cell phone number, and you will receive an unlock code.
It seems like this is all one guy handling this process. Turnaround time seems to be 24-48 hours beginning to end.
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Theory was that someone with access to Motorola's engineering software had a side business going. You know they unlock their bootloaders for testing and such. Someone with access to that software could make some money if they made sure they covered their tracks.
Also people who visited China were able to buy unlocked bootloader Droid Turbos well before Sunshine was released. One guy posted in this forum. In that case, it was probably pilfering some phones from the factory -- but again with unlocked bootloaders. So, there is some software out there somewhere, just kept under wraps.

Haha the Chinaman? Really? Sounds like an evil arms dealer from a 90's action movie. Man, if only the magic official bootloader unlocking software was leaked. That would be like Christmas times infinity.

TheSt33v said:
Haha the Chinaman? Really? Sounds like an evil arms dealer from a 90's action movie. Man, if only the magic official bootloader unlocking software was leaked. That would be like Christmas times infinity.
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I updated my post to include XDA links. I can't find any examples of Droid Turbos being unlocked via this eBay "purchase" only other Verizon phones, but there are the legitimate reports of unlocked Droid Turbos for sale in China in the year prior to Sunshine being released November 2015. One guy even posted on here because he was trying to install CM12.1 at the time on his BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED Droid Turbo he had purchased in China.
Note the Chinese middleman guy was charging $45 for bootloader unlock at the time, and Sunshine only charges $25.

xml flash file is the last solution =))

@ChazzMatt: I think it's impossible to cross flash 1250 to 1254, but 1254 can flash to 1250

Doesn anybody know how much does usually takes for Verzion ( or whoever does it ) to release xml sbf firmware file? And do they release every? I need latest MCG24 or at least system file (s) is enough.
I have everything except system files, if anybody can provide system files or knows hot to convert ones from ota , I can make complete fastboot xml zip.
EDIT: System from OTA is not enough. If somebody can provide system / backup from MCG24 phone, I might be able to make it.

mr_5kool said:
@ChazzMatt: I think it's impossible to cross flash 1250 to 1254, but 1254 can flash to 1250
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No, people have done both. One guy messaged me on Hangouts telling me what he did, so I know it can be done.

ChazzMatt said:
No, people have done both. One guy messaged me on Hangouts telling me what he did, so I know it can be done.
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Can you give little more info on this. Changed cid? Unlocked bootloader? Maybe we can use x1250 xml fastboot files until they release Marshmallow fastboot. I need one for backup , I know I'll brick the phone sooner or later , as guys above did lol..

Yes, unlocked bootloader and you don't flash the XT1254 bootloader. This was before Sunshine, and he converted XT1250 to XT1254 with unlocked bootloader.
We chatted over a few days, while he tried to find an XT1250, ordered one, then it arrived. Then he flashed the Verizon firmware. Here's the relevant portion of what he wrote:
Flashed the Verizon radio and 5.1 FW (firmware)
The only problem I have right now is upload speeds are super slow.
gonna try wiping the radio and re-writing the radio
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I then asked him a couple of questions and he answered this:
Yes I flashed the Verizon Radio to the device
not the bootloader image, for obvious reasons
I wanted 5.1, so I didn't test until I had the VZW 5.1 with my SIM card
I'm going to try an reflash soon, and then get a new SIM just in case
I hope Verizon doesn't give me any trouble getting a new SIM at my local store
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I didn't hear from him anymore after that, so guess everything turned out OK. This in August 2015, was about a month after 5.1 was released for the Droid Turbo XT1254 (XT1250 was still on 4.4.4) but before Sunshine released their bootloader unlock for the XT1254 in November 2015.

ChazzMatt said:
Yes, unlocked bootloader and you don't flash the XT1254 bootloader. This was before Sunshine, and he converted XT1250 to XT1254 with unlocked bootloader.
We chatted over a few days, while he tried to find an XT1250, ordered one, then it arrived. Then he flashed the Verizon firmware. Here's the relevant portion of what he wrote:
I then asked him a couple of questions and he answered this:
I didn't hear from him anymore after that, so guess everything turned out OK. This in August 2015, was about a month after 5.1 was released for the Droid Turbo XT1254 (XT1250 was still on 4.4.4) but before Sunshine released their bootloader unlock for the XT1254 in November 2015.
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Yeah but we're talking about vice-versa here, flashing xt1250 Firmware to xt1254 .
Flashing xt1254 firmware to xt1250 with unlocked bootloader doesn't seem like a big deal, it should be possible anyway..

Ej?iSixo said:
Yeah but we're talking about vice-versa here, flashing xt1250 Firmware to xt1254 .
Flashing xt1254 firmware to xt1250 with unlocked bootloader doesn't seem like a big deal, it should be possible anyway..
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That's been done, too. I didn't know that was the question.
One guy didn't want Verizon bloatware and his solution was to flash the "pure" Motorola firmware from the XT1250 over his XT1254.
Yes, he had unlocked bootloader and could have just uninstalled the bloatware. I'm not saying it was logical, I'm just telling you what he did.
So there's no question these two phones are exactly the same device, with exactly the same FCC ID.
The issue is the XT1250/XT1254 being flashed needs to the other needs an unlocked bootloader. And you can't downgrade (gpt.bin) when you flash.
So, for the purposes of this thread that information doesn't help you, if your XT1254 bootloader isn't unlocked.

mr_5kool said:
Hi guys,
I (and some of my friends) had a problem with XT1254:
1. We updated to 6.0.1 via recovery with update.zip. This process had successfully done.
2. Several felt something wrong with new 6.0.1 system, so they re-updated via recovery again (still the same update.zip). This made the system dead. They could not enter system, except bootloader and recovery. The problem is that source system needs to be Lollipop SU4TL-49 so the re-update process will fail.
Conclusion: Wait for the 6.0.1 flash file (xml) then flash via RSD.
Thanks guys!!!!
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[FXZ] Official Stock Firmware 6.0.1 MCG24.251-5
https://forum.xda-developers.com/dr...-official-stock-firmware-6-0-1-mcg24-t3531571