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Help, My phone is Bricked

Hi people. I neen your help for booting my phone.
I had Stock 4.4.2, Moto X with camera update and Locked Bootloader, today I stupidly flashed a ROM 4.4.4, I know I have to be on UB, but I forgot it, it was an impulse. I got an error in the flashing, then I tried to flash my sbf Stock Version, but now it says Downgraded security something with gpt and I cannot flash anything, I mean starts flahsing but in boot.img it got stucked, please if someone tried the same and could help me please.
Thanks in advance.

icerebro said:
Hi people. I neen your help for booting my phone.
I had Stock 4.4.2, Moto X with camera update and Locked Bootloader, today I stupidly flashed a ROM 4.4.4, I know I have to be on UB, but I forgot it, it was an impulse. I got an error in the flashing, then I tried to flash my sbf Stock Version, but now it says Downgraded security something with gpt and I cannot flash anything, I mean starts flahsing but in boot.img it got stucked, please if someone tried the same and could help me please.
Thanks in advance.
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Without Bootloader unlocking how can u flash a rom to your device thats first Mistake ... I think u cant back to u r device...

icerebro said:
Hi people. I neen your help for booting my phone.
I had Stock 4.4.2, Moto X with camera update and Locked Bootloader, today I stupidly flashed a ROM 4.4.4, I know I have to be on UB, but I forgot it, it was an impulse. I got an error in the flashing, then I tried to flash my sbf Stock Version, but now it says Downgraded security something with gpt and I cannot flash anything, I mean starts flahsing but in boot.img it got stucked, please if someone tried the same and could help me please.
Thanks in advance.
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Mahesh8348 said:
Without Bootloader unlocking how can u flash a rom to your device thats first Mistake ... I think u cant back to u r device...
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Yep, you are stuck until the full 4.4.4 SBF is released for your carrier. Shouldn't have done that.
Who is your carrier? If it is AT&T, you are in luck! The 4.4.4 SBF was just released. If not....bummer - you will have to wait. Can't flash a ROM with a different CID with a locked BL.
I highly suggest you don't attempt to manually force the older rom. Really, beyond the fact that you flashed the wrong ROM, how did you miss all the warnings that downgrade = brick?
Tough situation to be in. Hopefully you have an AT&T unit. If so, we can help get you fixed up.

Well, I have solved it Unlocking my Bootloader and then reinstalling the rom 4.4.4 retail from Brazil. It works now.
I have a question, now I am in Brazil but I am from Perú, and when I try to change the APN for the one I use in Perú, it deletes itself, so I can not change the APN or create a new one because i can not save it. What is the problem in there?
My phone was Nextel operator, then I unlock it, never had a problem.
Hope your help.
Thanks!

xt 1053.need to4.4.4 to 4.4.3 ,prob wit downgraded security preflash validation error

Help me regarding going back to4.4.3... I have the package and everything ( rsd lite stuff) but boot loader seems updated while i did ota to 4.4.4 .. its keep saying downgraded security pre flash vvalidation error while flashing 4.4.3.
4.4.3 was silky smooth. 4.4.4 is stuttery horrible in many apps and also generally to some extent
Theoretically this should be possible right to install old boot loader and then fash 4.4.3??
How and where to get boot loader old one.??.. I mean this is the thing they do in factories no?? Before flashing a firmware...
That would remove security downgrade verification right??
Reason is 4.4.4 is horribly stuttering Feels like a cheap china mobile

Search this forum for "downgrade brick" and see what others have had happen.
Long story short: just. don't. do it.

Problem. Is while doing an it's update after downgrading . which causes different kernel and system IMG to cause problems they say.
Still wonder why no one is into what causes the security check , how to get an old boot loader into the phone ... Wat they do I manufacturing? No phone comes with any software.. They are uploaded into it after emptiness. .. So why not 4.4.3 now .. if its the bootloader that causes problems why can't we install a boot loader that will match 4.4.3 ?? ...
All the forum is full f bricked moto x when there was no 4.4.4 firmware available. Nowthey are available.. So its not much problem now as it used to be.
Pls some one look into it... No one curious enough to decode the way?? I mean is this acceptable ? That we can't match 4.4.3 in a moto x ..

4.4.4 stuttering? User error

The moto x is not a nexus device. Unlike gaining S-off on an HTC phone, unlocking the bootloader on a moto x doesn't disable its security checks.
You can't downgrade got.bin and motoboot.img, or their internal components due to the phone's security checks.
People try downgrade by skipping those, BUT too often people brick when attempting this, or taking an OTA update in this state.
When you have mismatched parts on the phone, things don't work (like the issue of going settings-> security kicking you out) and you are at risk for bricking.

KidJoe said:
The moto x is not a nexus device. Unlike gaining S-off on an HTC phone, unlocking the bootloader on a moto x doesn't disable its security checks.
You can't downgrade got.bin and motoboot.img, or their internal components due to the phone's security checks.
People try downgrade by skipping those, BUT too often people brick when attempting this, or taking an OTA update in this state.
When you have mismatched parts on the phone, things don't work (like the issue of going settings-> security kicking you out) and you are at risk for bricking.
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The problem is boot.IMG which has the kernel also has the dowbhrade security check error ... So when I falshed 4.4.3 over the 4.4.4 phone , ended up having kernel of 4.4.4 with system of 4.4.3.. ( I had to skip boot.IMG of kernel, motoboot.IMG , and got.bin)
Kernel is where interface comes...
Is there a way to flash the boot.IMG of 4.4.3 ... I would be satisfied with that... No need got.bin and motoboot.IMG flashing...
Also when I see this forum no one mention boot.IMG only motoboot and got.bin are mentioned.. Am I the only one having prob with boot.IMG flashingflashing.. If so pls tell kidjoe, iwould be happy
And AM NOT OTA OR MANUALLY UPDATIG TO LOLLIPOP IF I HAVE 4.4.3...
I HAVE OTA UPDATED 4.4.4 after having 4.4.3 system and 4.4.4 kernel .. To attain full 4.4.4 and it doesn't cause brickig .
Brickin occurs only when u update to next release it seems. 4.4.4 update is easy with the device it seems

nhizzat said:
4.4.4 stuttering? User error
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Pls help me .. Wats user error.. I mean wat u mean by my error??

govardhan87 said:
Pls help me .. Wats user error.. I mean wat u mean by my error??
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Most likely something you've modified or installed is causing the stuttering.

govardhan87 said:
The problem is boot.IMG which has the kernel also has the dowbhrade security check error ... So when I falshed 4.4.3 over the 4.4.4 phone , ended up having kernel of 4.4.4 with system of 4.4.3.. ( I had to skip boot.IMG of kernel, motoboot.IMG , and got.bin)
Kernel is where interface comes...
Is there a way to flash the boot.IMG of 4.4.3 ... I would be satisfied with that... No need got.bin and motoboot.IMG flashing...
Also when I see this forum no one mention boot.IMG only motoboot and got.bin are mentioned.. Am I the only one having prob with boot.IMG flashingflashing.. If so pls tell kidjoe, iwould be happy
And AM NOT OTA OR MANUALLY UPDATIG TO LOLLIPOP IF I HAVE 4.4.3...
I HAVE OTA UPDATED 4.4.4 after having 4.4.3 system and 4.4.4 kernel .. To attain full 4.4.4 and it doesn't cause brickig .
Brickin occurs only when u update to next release it seems. 4.4.4 update is easy with the device it seems
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Most reference only GPT.BIN and MOTOBOOT.IMG because they are the partition table, bootloader, trusted zone, etc. Those two fail with an error that stops RSDlite, and those two error when trying to flash older versions via mFastboot. After getting those errors, that is usually when people start posting their phone is bricked and asking for help.
I've seen some downgrade everything but those two (meaning, yes they did even flash boot.img) using mfastboot (latest being from the 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 dev edition roms). But again, if you get forgetful and take an OTA, or sell it to someone in that state, you could cause a brick later.
You could be able to downgrade parts without bricking, we've seen that happen... In addition, like when people on 4.4.2 downgraded this way to 4.4, we saw features not work (I mentioned the security menu earlier) if they managed to not brick.
In some cases, when in the bricked or non-booting state from attempting to downgrade, flashing the full SBF of the newest version (4.4.4) manually via mFastboot with a few extra commands was enough to recover the phone and get it working. (at least check the phone's bootloader version and flash the SBF for that bootloader or a higher/newer SBF version). On some occasions they've bricked bad enough that they've needed to follow -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057 and other times nothing worked and their phone was dead.
That being said, the many many threads asking for help due to phones not booting, being bricked, etc from attempting to downgrade are why we caution people to not downgrade and why you wont get much help doing it. Its not 100% safe or fool proof. If it goes wrong you could have a lot of work on your hands or a non-usable phone. Just because it has worked for you, doesn't mean it works and others can/should try it. We've seen too many times how people have bricked. For example a while ago there was someone claiming its possible to downgrade the XT1052 without issues, it was 100% safe, he did it without failure so it must be safe. Then XT1052 people who tried it started creating threads that their phone was bricked from following his steps asking for help. The thread was closed/locked.
But its your phone, do what you want. If you advise others to downgrade, or claim its safe to downgrade, make sure you include a clear warning that there are risks!!

govardhan87 said:
Help me regarding going back to4.4.3... I have the package and everything ( rsd lite stuff) but boot loader seems updated while i did ota to 4.4.4 .. its keep saying downgraded security pre flash vvalidation error while flashing 4.4.3.
4.4.3 was silky smooth. 4.4.4 is stuttery horrible in many apps and also generally to some extent
Theoretically this should be possible right to install old boot loader and then fash 4.4.3??
How and where to get boot loader old one.??.. I mean this is the thing they do in factories no?? Before flashing a firmware...
That would remove security downgrade verification right??
Reason is 4.4.4 is horribly stuttering Feels like a cheap china mobile
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You do realize the ONLY change between 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 is the security fix for ssl right. It was less then 16 meg for the update so your issues are NOT related to 4.4.3 vs 44.4 I would look elsewhere for the cause of your issues before you completely brick your phone

adm1jtg said:
You do realize the ONLY change between 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 is the security fix for ssl right. It was less then 16 meg for the update so your issues are NOT related to 4.4.3 vs 44.4 I would look elsewhere for the cause of your issues before you completely brick your phone
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dear adm1jtg... Am not a developer in android or even a software guy. I will be unable to see these things or verify that its only security update and will not affect kernel of the os- although they said wat u said..
That's y I posted here. Thanks for replying.
Would be happy if u tell if kernel is same in 4.4.3 And 4.4.4. ( if u know)

govardhan87 said:
dear adm1jtg... Am not a developer in android or even a software guy. I will be unable to see these things or verify that its only security update and will not affect kernel of the os- although they said wat u said..
That's y I posted here. Thanks for replying.
Would be happy if u tell if kernel is same in 4.4.3 And 4.4.4. ( if u know)
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Kernel is not identical but close as far as i know as the security fix was kernel based. Ok that said instead of trying to change your stock rom i would try a custom kenrel. Which one you ask.... I am currently using zwliew. There is a thread for it in the dev area. You could also try a custom stock based rom like krypton or epsilon (also have threads in dev section).
Downgrading really shoudnt EVER be considered for any reason as you have a very good chance or permanently bricking your phone.

Agree with many here...
Even tho some say they've downgraded OK... Let's see how the next ota works out for them. Oops!
So .... Here's my 2 cents on downgrading........ DON'T !
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Mobile Radio Activy Draining Battery

Hi all,
I know it's a known issue on Android. But my question is another.
I've a Moto Maxx from Brasil with locked bootloader. Is there anyway for me to maybe downgrade and afterwars upgrade again ?
I don't know if this can help with my problem, but maybe worth the risk. My battery is not lasting one day with normal use.

There's a way, but you need to unlock the bootloader.
You'll be re-flashing all of Kitkat EXCEPT for gpt.bin. (That part cannot be downgraded.) You will then have KitKat back. You can also then upgrade back to Lollipop.
But if you mess up the flash, you can brick your phone if the bootloader is not unlocked.
IF your bootloader is UNLOCKED, then you just go back into recovery and re-flash again. Everything can be fixed if your bootloader is unlocked. If you try flashing with a locked bootloader, it's much harder to fix mistakes, if they can be fixed at all.
Go here and read. Be sure to thank @Jaocagomez for writing the tutorial...
[Tutorial] How to Flash Different Official Firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/tutorial-how-to-flash-official-firmware-t3074724
Question: Can i go back to kitkat if i flashed the Mexico or Brasil Lollipop OTA???
Answer: Yes you can flash back to kitkat without risk of brick if you flashed the mexican or brasil OTA using the method of this thread.
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Help! How to downgrade from marshmallow ( nexus experience rom) to lollipop (stock ro

Can anyone pls tel how do i downgrade from marshmallow 6.0.1 to lollipop 5.0.2?
Currently my bootloader version is 48.83. I dnt remember what it was on lollipop. Pls help!

Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.

spetrie said:
Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.
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I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.

If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.

Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.

gauravrai said:
If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.
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I have made a nandroid backup. Currently m on nexus experience rom. One of my friend was in resurrection remix (marshmallow) he faced some bugs so he came back to lollipop. It worked fine for him. But when he tried to flash the soak test ota, he hard bricked his phone... Why did that happen??

rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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Currently my bootloader versuon is 48.83
What is the version on lollipop? Bootloader dsnt change on flashing roms ryt?

sumedhs said:
I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.
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All I can say is that I was on Nexus Experience 10.0.4 (Marshmallow) but could not get adopted storage to work so restored my previous AOSP lollipop ROM from TWRP backup and no issues. My Bootloader is 48.82. I have never used the soak test version or OTA version of marshmallow.
I have also in the past restored stock lollipop V5.0.2 from other lollipop versions with no issues.

rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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which files or command to skip in this process

if u use L ROM then this one is the latest or last update of L ROM and i have used many days.........and its good.....its CM based LINK or If u like a pure Stock L ROM with Optimized then here it goes LINK

ezio1723 said:
which files or command to skip in this process
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Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them

rebzin said:
Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them
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you can use easyinstaller file it will automatically flashes the files

My bootloader is 0×4887 I am running a stock mm and I wud like to downgrade to lollipop to use the stellar kernel way shud I do...???pls help
Just a noobie....
Sry if tat was bad English..!!

Just don't downgrade your Bootloader and you should be fine, if you're using an easyinstaller script to flash stock Lollipop make sure and remove the lines of code that flash motoboot.img & I'd also recommend removing the line that flashes gpt.bin to be safe.

million-dollar idea = hard brick bootloader

I watch all the forum ... and nothing .... It strikes me the idea that solving this problem can handle only champion. I am not and I tried on all methods.
Why XDA no solution ??? XDA's largest community of Android developers I know. There must be a solution, and I want to find him here!
Help if you can, even God
thanks

at least tell us, what seems to be a problem? As for now, it sounds like you're going to pay a milion-dollars for someone who will hardbrick your bootloader. Am I right? Send it to me, I'll hardbrick with my hammer for that cash.

I think his problem is that is Bootloader IS hardbricked and NOT that he wants it hardbricked.. BTW I have a similar problem. I installed Android 6.0 on my xt1068 using The Indian soak test update. I then decided I wanted to downgrade back to 5.0.2 and my phone is now dead completely... So yeah an answer would be nice here. Thanks

One should try to install only system, recovery, radio partiotions.
Every update Moto updates fs structure, changes bootloader and radio. These are critical and should not be installed.

PsyClip-R said:
One should try to install only system, recovery, radio partiotions.
Every update Moto updates fs structure, changes bootloader and radio. These are critical and should not be installed.
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>These are critical and should not be installed.
More like they shouldn't be downgraded.

LuK1337 said:
>These are critical and should not be installed.
More like they shouldn't be downgraded.
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i m on soak test 6.0 update with rooted and twrp recovery and also have a twrp backup of stock rooted 5.0.2 so how can i get and install further ota updates ? can i restore from twrp backup of stock rooted 5.0.2 and then flash 5.0.2 to stay stock and get ready for updates please help as i know bootloader downgrade will brick my device
Blur_Version.24.41.34.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03.zip
has a gpt.bin file is it possible to replace the gpt.bin from 5.0.2 firmware files with one that is present in blur zip please help

my current bootloader is 48.86 i used xt1069 's marshmallow previously
I FLASHED XT1068_TITAN_RETAILDSDS_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16.3_Easy_Installer.zip ON BOOTLOADER 48.86 VIA FASTBOOT IT GIVES ME MSG IN PINK ( version downgrade for _gpt and version downgrade for tz) and rest is worked fine it successfully booted into the stock 5.0.2 after that i updated soak test update of 6.0 by coping blurred version into sd card and checking it by going into settings >about phones >system updates
so not faced any problem as of now i m sure what i done i have a video proof also that i flashed (XT1068_TITAN_RETAILDSDS_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16.3_Easy_Installer.zip ON BOOTLOADER 48.86)

Sorry could you please explain that in beginner's lanuguage?
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I've bricked my boot loader by downgrading and have taken it in for repair to my local cellphone repair guy and he told me it's dead and unfix-able. I was told to go to Motorola to get them to fix it except THERE is no Motorola service at all for South Africa... So I'm screwed?