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Gear 2 now that Android wear is out.... #failboat

So I bought a Neo and played around with it on my work Note 3. It has fair amount of apps. Well today I bought a S5 Active. I moved my Neo over to it (requires reseting it.) and got gear manager installed. Surprise to me... It seems even though things like the clock face is an app that runs on the phone if the developer doesn't select that it works with a phone you can't use it. Which should be a simple change for most things however it doesn't seem that developers update their Samsung store apps. For the S5 active there are only a handful of apps even though I am sure 99% all the apps would work if the dev would click the "it works with an s5 active"
After dealing with Samsung support (or the lack of it) I tried to get on the Samsung app store webpage. It seems they are having server errors so it was been working like crap. I was kind of able to get contacts for a couple of the app dev's to ask that they update their app to work with the S5 active. Samsung app store doesn't provide contact information unless the dev adds it. One of the devs linked to his google+ page. Which showed he is working to get the same app with improvements to work on android wear.
This got me thinking. Who is going to mess with this crappy half baked Samsung store with Google coming out with Wear? I'd guess we won't see anyone making new Apps for the tizen watches, they don't even update it to work with new phones it will run on with no changes...
I just got the Neo and I am on the fence of returning it. I figured I could get by with apps I had on the Note 3 until someone got a Wear rom for it. With the lack of apps when paired with the s5 I am not impressed at all and after my research today I am liking it less. I got it over the wear because it was only 150bucks vs 225, it has a speaker and IR blaster and Android wear is lacking in features (sure to change in 6 months to a year). I figured by the time wear got up to speed there would be a rom. Thinking about it some I am doubtful, I think the speaker and IR blaster (camera if it is a gear 2) will prevent it from ever happening. None of the wear watches have these so I'd guess there isn't low level support.
I guess I need to return it and wait for the 360 come out.

I had the same problem with my active. I modified the build prop to identify my device as a regular s5 and have all the apps again.

Root required?
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WiFivomFranMan said:
Root required?
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yeah

lordmorphous said:
yeah
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What did you use as your spoofed device?

WiFivomFranMan said:
What did you use as your spoofed device?
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I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A

I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great

slaydog said:
I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great
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I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.

lordmorphous said:
I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A
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when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?

treezy26 said:
when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?
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Phone is rooted, not the watch. I rooted by using towelroot. Look in the particular forum for your phone for instruction, I don't want to give bad advice.

I understand how to root. My question now is, will this work with any phone?
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yopiggy said:
I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.
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Haha lucky me i kept my my original GG my Neo and also have the Live... Yup the live is super boring compared to the GG or Neo
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Hi folks. Buying a Gear 2 neo

I am grabbing a neo today and was curious about compatibility with aosp. I have a note 2 currently running cm11 based vanir.
I can go back to tw but I was curious if things would work okay as is?
Also curious about library control for google play music.
Anything else I should know as a new neo owner?

jewnersey said:
I am grabbing a neo today and was curious about compatibility with aosp. I have a note 2 currently running cm11 based vanir.
I can go back to tw but I was curious if things would work okay as is?
Also curious about library control for google play music.
Anything else I should know as a new neo owner?
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I just asked the exact same question, then read through the forums and found yours. I see no one answered you. Did you find out for yourself? I would really like to know the answer because I'm getting ready to buy a g2n tomorrow and I wanted to be sure because I really don't want to go back to a touchwhiz rom. Thanks

neonymbus said:
I just asked the exact same question, then read through the forums and found yours. I see no one answered you. Did you find out for yourself? I would really like to know the answer because I'm getting ready to buy a g2n tomorrow and I wanted to be sure because I really don't want to go back to a touchwhiz rom. Thanks
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I use the gear with an lg g3 so no tw for me. All works good and with my rom you can also install apk outside the galaxy app store.
You can search the answer for your question also under the gear 2 forum since the hw are basically the same. If a thing works for gear 2 it will works also for gear 2 neo.

[Q] Can someone tell me what firegear is?

I'm kinda guessing it's for a gear watch but not entirely sure. If so how can I download it?

Yes it is for Gear watch v1
jonathanfregoso said:
I'm kinda guessing it's for a gear watch but not entirely sure. If so how can I download it?
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I have seen them discussing it on the at&t note 3 firenote forum. I think you would have to get in touch with megalomanic14, I believe firegear is his some of his work.

aye.. its rom that Mega put together for the Gear 1 watch...if you have the gear, just go chat with him in the firekat thread or send him a PM
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Galaxy Gear 1 issues with note 4

I'm quite happy with the note 4 so far and would like to keep it but I'm having issues with my Gear. I'm not sure if this is rom (currently on Null rom) related or note 4 only supports tizen, but these are my issues. I don't have these issues with my note 3.
1. When I get a text and I open it on the watch, it's supposed to clear the notification on the phone but it's not. So I still have to go the my messages on the phone and view them so the notification goes away.
2. I have my gear set up to auto unlock my phone when its near it, but it's not working. It stays locked (pattern unlock)
Anyone else with the Gear having any of these issues? If you're not can you tell me if you are using stock android rom or tizen. TIA.

interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..

I'm also running null_23. Can confirm issue 2. I'm using hangouts for SMS. Not sure if notifications are dismissing for that, I'll let you know.

wase4711 said:
interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..
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In some case I do put it in there but moderators always move it to Q&A which makes sense so I just put them in here.
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rcobourn said:
I'm also running null_23. Can confirm issue 2. I'm using hangouts for SMS. Not sure if notifications are dismissing for that, I'll let you know.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I tried rolling back to stock android rom but still the same. I really hope I don't have to go to tizen. I need my 60 second recoding which only can be had with Null rom.
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wase4711 said:
interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..
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Wase4711, Gear 1 and Gear 2 are significantly different. Gear 1's have the option of running android OR tizen, whereas gear 2 folks are pretty much locked into Tizen and that's that.

thanks, I did not know that:good:
whats the real difference when running either of them, outside of apps you might be able to load on the android OS?
tomorrow will be a busy day, configuring the note 4 and the gear 2!:cyclops:

wase4711 said:
thanks, I did not know that:good:
whats the real difference when running either of them, outside of apps you might be able to load on the android OS?
tomorrow will be a busy day, configuring the note 4 and the gear 2!:cyclops:
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using a regular rom on the Note 1, you can install LOTS of goodies.
Gear 2 apps are significantly more limited. IMO the gear 2 looks cleaner without that ugly wart camera.

Compusmurf said:
using a regular rom on the Note 1, you can install LOTS of goodies.
Gear 2 apps are significantly more limited. IMO the gear 2 looks cleaner without that ugly wart camera.
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that makes sense..
for me, the gear 2 had most of the things I would care about on it, plus, I knew getting the note 4 around the same time, my head would be exploding just getting that setup how I want it, let alone having to configure/learn how to use a Gear 2..Yeah, that "wart" of a camera on the gear 1 looked terrible..

How are you guys using null without Bluetooth tethering?

quick update; the gear 2 works fantastic with this phone..
I cant believe how clear and loud making a phone call from a watch actually is!
Plus, I get the "HD Voice" notification on the watch while calling, and its as clear as a bell!

wase4711 said:
quick update; the gear 2 works fantastic with this phone..
I cant believe how clear and loud making a phone call from a watch actually is!
Plus, I get the "HD Voice" notification on the watch while calling, and its as clear as a bell!
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Thanks for the update. It looks like I won't have a choice but to upgrade to tizen if I want my gear 1 to play right.
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aznmode said:
Thanks for the update. It looks like I won't have a choice but to upgrade to tizen if I want my gear 1 to play right.
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its not so bad; even though there arent a ton of programs for it, i really just want it for notifications/calls/texts/email and the pedometer and work out stuff. All that works great so far on a stock, non rooted note 4

wase4711 said:
its not so bad; even though there arent a ton of programs for it, i really just want it for notifications/calls/texts/email and the pedometer and work out stuff. All that works great so far on a stock, non rooted note 4
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Ya I use mine for mostly call, text notification, unlock feature but also camera and video recording. It beats holding a phone sometimes and having a 60 second recording (only available on custom rom) is a great.

AR Emoji for note 8

Our note 8 got the AR Emoji and super-slow function for its camera

kmmi said:
Our note 8 got the AR Emoji and super-slow function for its camera
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Yes but i dont know how to activate it

memeliv said:
Yes but i dont know how to activate it
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You have to download a the emoji app from the samsung store lol.

Cant find it
Dchoi229 said:
You have to download a the emoji app from the samsung store lol.
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memeliv said:
Cant find it
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Go to your stock camera and swipe to the left and you should see a blue box that says create my emoji. Click on that and it should redirect you to the samsung galaxy apps page. It's really useless to be honest with you. Animoji for iphone is a lot better and innovative.

Dchoi229 said:
Go to your stock camera and swipe to the left and you should see a blue box that says create my emoji. Click on that and it should redirect you to the samsung galaxy apps page. It's really useless to be honest with you. Animoji for iphone is a lot better and innovative.
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I still cant find it and yes I'm on latest firmware shown in the OP

Touch on stickers in camera, not Swype left.

sergyu91ma said:
Touch on stickers in camera, not Swype left.
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Thanks! It's there

We Sprint users didn't get it with the September update that arrived yesterday. Any way of side-loading it?

I'm still waiting for the update
I've seen the emoji maker app in galaxy apps many days ago excited and heard news, still waiting to get the update...

these functions very nice. but i don't know this super slow motion function is same as note 9 or s9 + ?

stormy_ugur said:
these functions very nice. but i don't know this super slow motion function is same as note 9 or s9 + ?
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No, not the same..... It's so crap [emoji36]
And AR emoji are not the same like s9, Note 9...can only create emoji gifs [emoji35]
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Case89 said:
No, not the same..... It's so crap [emoji36]
And AR emoji are not the same like s9, Note 9...can only create emoji gifs [emoji35]
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live message screen is smaller now. is it possible to backup note 8 oriiginal live message agian?
this live message is so ugly. i don't recommend anyone.

has anyone got these features on verizon in the usa?

jdog94 said:
has anyone got these features on verizon in the usa?
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No they Robbed us.

Steve One said:
No they Robbed us.
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Yes they did! I was cursing and saying the exact same thing.. It's just like the device manager that they took from us for well over a year.. They are always messing with something and taking it something.. And if you look at the date on the kernel, they took a good month to pull things. They're not trying to make sure anything works on their silly network.. They are just trying to remove features in the frail "hope" that it will make people upgrade to the new models.
Same thing for security patches.. Notice we didn't get one at all for 3 months, while Samsung had been rolling them out every month steady. All you have to do is either read here in some of the other threads, or simply sammobile. The latter always tells when they're is an update our patch to any Samsung device. And I just sat, read, and observed. They do this every year, with every single new devices far as Samsung is concerned.
They let Verizon do that to us. But yes, Verizon is as crooked a carrier, as a bent telephone pole.. I feel you what though, it makes me feel just the opposite. Why in the world would I, as a consumer keep investing money in a device that isn't cheap by a Longshot as far as cellular devices are concerned, when all they're going to do, is disable features, that the device was designed for by the manufacturer..
It really, at this price point to me is simply sickening.. And I really and utterly refuse....
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There is no AR feature in the so-called AR emoji for Note 8. There are plenty of app that can be used to create personalized sticker, nothing special.

p4n6 said:
There is no AR feature in the so-called AR emoji for Note 8. There are plenty of app that can be used to create personalized sticker, nothing special.
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Yes there is u just have to be on the right build

Just got the AR emoji and super slow motion update along with security update this morning. I'm using a Verizon samsung Galaxy Note 8.

ycats said:
We Sprint users didn't get it with the September update that arrived yesterday. Any way of side-loading it?
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I'm on sprint and I got it