Hello,
I recently bought a Nexus 5X, and as you know it comes without a USB C to A adapter. So I ordered a cable from a china online store and will test it with CheckR. But if it isn't safe I was wondering if I could make an adapter that would connect the data lines to computer and the 5v line to an external power supply, capable of supplying 5V/10A. Does anyone know if this would work and how safe would it be?
The connections are shown in the schematic on the link(remove the space between goo. and gl)
goo. gl/yaSZZ0
Thanks for any help!
I can't figure out where the danger is here. If you have a charger that outputs 5v @ 1.0 amp, it's going to output that to the phone no matter what right? The phone is essentially the dumb end right, it takes what it can get.
I have cables now that according to Benson do not meet the USB C spec, and cables that do meet the spec. Both brands of cables pass the Checkr app test though.
Both cables say charging slowly on the phone when plugged into a low amp charger or a PC port. The only difference I've noticed is the cable with the 56k pullup resistor still says charging even when hooked to a port that is cable of rapid charging.
So best I can tell nothing can be damaged here, just if you get the "in spec" cable with the 56k resistor, it will always slow charge, even when plugged into a device cable of charging faster?
*edit* Just for clarification, the cable with the 56k resistor will do "charging slowly" and "charging", whereas the cable without will do rapid charging on devices that can output the extra current. So while I say slow charging, it's still capable of charging at a "normal" rate */edit*
A big part of the issue is that it can try to pull more current from the port than the port can supply, and possibly damage it. Once the port is damaged who knows how it will react or what it will be supplying. Most USB A ports aren't going to supply 3A safely that's where the concern is. On the unsafe thing here is more https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
You are essentially creating a powered hub with that, I've done similar to make a powered OTG. You should be able to charge from it if the power supply is correct. Obviously, it's on you to decide if it is correct and worth the possible risk.
So I get voltage is pushed, amperage is pulled. So is the problem only on incorrectly designed power supplies / chargers that dont limit their output current?
So far every port / charger Ive used my 5x has charged correctly on (only drawing what the port can supply). The only catch here is cables that Benson tested in spec (with the 56k pull up resistor) wont support "charging rapidly" on ports that are capable of it.
OhioYJ said:
So I get voltage is pushed, amperage is pulled. So is the problem only on incorrectly designed power supplies / chargers that dont limit their output current?
So far every port / charger Ive used my 5x has charged correctly on (only drawing what the port can supply). The only catch here is cables that Benson tested in spec (with the 56k pull up resistor) wont support "charging rapidly" on ports that are capable of it.
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One thing to consider is that the USB A chargers were never meant to charge C devices, so it's not that they are all improperly designed, just that they are designed for a different spec. The PU is on the Configuration Control pin and is meant to configure the device to what the source is rated for, 56k will set it to "Default USB Power 500mA for USB2.0, 900mA for USB3.0". The charger lacks the PU to configure the device and the 56k PU in the cord is there to fix that and sets it to default values in order to make it work across all sources/ports. I found some C spec information from here if you want more to look at.
As long as the 5X was getting no more than it's 5v 3A and the source was safely providing the power then I don't see where the issue would be.
Keithn said:
One thing to consider is that the USB A chargers were never meant to charge C devices, so it's not that they are all improperly designed, just that they are designed for a different spec.
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I'm more inferring that if there is a fire or melted plug, it was an improperly designed device. Any charger or power supply should be limited to a max safe current anyways, regardless of what the device or cable would like to pull.
Thanks for the link though, I had never really looked into why (how) it was reversible, or what the various resistor were doing. It's actually a pretty interesting read. It really strikes me as they wanted to create a do it all cable, but that just ended up making it really complex for no reason.
Ok so in the end the CheckR app claims the phone is charging with 3A and that the cable is unsafe but the phone says charging slowly and i tested with an ammeter and it's only about 350mA so the cable is safe. Apparently the CheckR app really can't be trusted.
sasko123 said:
Ok so in the end the CheckR app claims the phone is charging with 3A and that the cable is unsafe but the phone says charging slowly and i tested with an ammeter and it's only about 350mA so the cable is safe. Apparently the CheckR app really can't be trusted.
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Which cable are you using? It is not necessary for the 5X to draw 3A at all times, in fact it wont - even with the stock USB C charger. It depends on the current battery level, the heat, and the charger. And don't go by the 'charging rapidly/slowly' indication, it isn't consistent when the 5X is paired with Type A cables (compliant or not) and chargers. Using Ampere or Current Monitor is better to monitor the draw.
roofrider said:
Which cable are you using? It is not necessary for the 5X to draw 3A at all times, in fact it wont - even with the stock USB C charger. It depends on the current battery level, the heat, and the charger. And don't go by the 'charging rapidly/slowly' indication, it isn't consistent when the 5X is paired with Type A cables (compliant or not) and chargers. Using Ampere or Current Monitor is better to monitor the draw.
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I'm using this cable: goo. gl/ayfgEk (can't post links yet). I did a test today and the result is: according to my ammeter at 27% battery the phone draws about 250-400mA. At the same time the Ampere app jumps from 190 to 540mA (it even went to over 2000mA but I didn't get a picture of that) so the cable seems safe to me. So am I missing something or the Ampere app really can't be trusted?
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I'm using the cable here goo. gl/ayfgEk (can't post link yet) I think using a physical ammeter would be the best way to monitor the current. I will do some more testing(using both the Ampere app and my ammeter) at different battery levels. Will report back.
Also the site claims it's USB 3.0 but it's actually just 2.0 with blue plastic
[EDIT: sorry for double post looks like i still had a draft saved on the phone and accidentally posted it now]
I think the app can be trusted, but which charger were you using? Was it connected to a USB port? I would suggest testing it further. Even the Current Monitor app can validate compliant USB C->A cables, so you could give that a shot as well.
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But how are you using the ammeter to check the draw here?
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You said you saw it shoot over 2A. That shouldn't be happening when connected to a USB port. It shouldn't exceed 500mA.
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Interesting.
roofrider said:
I think the app can be trusted, but which charger were you using? Was it connected to a USB port? I would suggest testing it further. Even the Current Monitor app can validate compliant USB C->A cables, so you could give that a shot as well.
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But how are you using the ammeter to check the draw here?
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It was connected to a computer USB port as that is the only I plan on using it(I'm not gonna use it with an AC charger) I connected a short USB extender between the cable and the USB port and the extender has a cut 5v wire so I can connect the ammeter in series. Will test the current monitor app.
EDIT: It only went over 2A according to the Ampere app, at the same time the ammeter measured 260mA. This is the reason I'm questioning the app's reliability.
I'm curious to know how much the 5X pulls via that cable when connected to a 1A or 1.5A charger. If it stays within the amps the charger is rated to provide, then it should be good.
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Hi all,
Can anyone point me to a known car charger which fast charges the G2? (Preferably not a $30 charger)
All but one of my previous car chargers only slow charge. I also just bought 2 from Amazon which claim to be 2 amp, but they also slow charge (just packed them up to go back).
Thanks.
dinotheo said:
Hi all,
Can anyone point me to a known car charger which fast charges the G2? (Preferably not a $30 charger)
All but one of my previous car chargers only slow charge. I also just bought 2 from Amazon which claim to be 2 amp, but they also slow charge (just packed them up to go back).
Thanks.
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It's my understanding that you can make one by shorting the data pins in a USB cable, but just remember to never, ever use that USB cable on a PC or else you'll damage the port.
I, too, am frustrated by LG's attempt to thwart fast-charge via normal USB cables. Once we have custom kernels, this will likely be resolved. I used leankernel on my GNex and had a fast-charge widget that would let me go from 0 to 100% in about 45 minutes.
DeaconBoogie said:
It's my understanding that you can make one by shorting the data pins in a USB cable, but just remember to never, ever use that USB cable on a PC or else you'll damage the port.
I, too, am frustrated by LG's attempt to thwart fast-charge via normal USB cables. Once we have custom kernels, this will likely be resolved. I used leankernel on my GNex and had a fast-charge widget that would let me go from 0 to 100% in about 45 minutes.
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Its not just LG, most Android manufacturers do this. This is absolutely nothing new!!!!
DeaconBoogie said:
It's my understanding that you can make one by shorting the data pins in a USB cable, but just remember to never, ever use that USB cable on a PC or else you'll damage the port.
I, too, am frustrated by LG's attempt to thwart fast-charge via normal USB cables. Once we have custom kernels, this will likely be resolved. I used leankernel on my GNex and had a fast-charge widget that would let me go from 0 to 100% in about 45 minutes.
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This makes some sense as my previous phone was a GNex running CyanogenMod with Franco Kernel. 3/4 of my previously working "fast" chargers only slow charge my G2.
Strangely, when using LG's USB cable plugged into my laptop's USB allows fast charging.
I use a Palm car charger, it's the best one I've ever found, and they can usually be found for around $10. It will fast charge the G2, tested and confirmed.
Okay, I take it back, it doesn't stay on fast charging. After a minute, the slow charge notification pops up. But this is the fastest car charger that I've ever found, and I looked around for a while.
The G2 is capable of an even faster fast charge than what we are used to, and that's why other home chargers also show slow charge. It's not really slow, just not as fast as it could be.
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But what I use most of the time is this,
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How in the world??
It's a Nokia wireless charger stuck onto an igrip alumina car mount. And wired into a 12v outlet.
I bought this at Walgreen and seems to charge just as good as at home. 10 bucks the blue led is a little much at night tho..
Oh they come in any color you want. I use the cable that cane with my device that cable is thick so I'm assuming it's needed.
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My HTC car charger works as a fast charger. This is the one I have:
http://www.htcdepot.com/htc-micro-usb-dual-1a-car-charger/5A47A6902.htm
dougxd said:
My HTC car charger works as a fast charger. This is the one I have:
http://www.htcdepot.com/htc-micro-usb-dual-1a-car-charger/5A47A6902.htm
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Output shows 1A, which is standard for car chargers. Fast charge via our LG wall charger is 1.8A -- 80% faster than 1A car chargers.
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Its not just LG, most Android manufacturers do this. This is absolutely nothing new!!!!
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Yes, you are correct. But it seems that they are going "the extra mile" to make it more difficult...
For example, when I use my GNex USB adapter, it says "slow charge"... When I use an Apple wall charger, "slow charge". Unless I use LG's cable. I can't get fast charge to work with anything at all unless I am using LG's cable. Even then, it may or may not work with the non-LG adapter.
Can't wait for a kernel that has fast charge enabled. With the wireless storage feature of this phone, there's no reason to use MTP anymore, IMO.
So is it the cable or the 1.8a "base" that enables us to fast charge?
DeaconBoogie said:
Yes, you are correct. But it seems that they are going "the extra mile" to make it more difficult...
For example, when I use my GNex USB adapter, it says "slow charge"... When I use an Apple wall charger, "slow charge". Unless I use LG's cable. I can't get fast charge to work with anything at all unless I am using LG's cable. Even then, it may or may not work with the non-LG adapter.
Can't wait for a kernel that has fast charge enabled. With the wireless storage feature of this phone, there's no reason to use MTP anymore, IMO.
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I'm 90% sure this has to do with the cable. Most premium USB cables are 24awg/28awg (power/data). The LG OEM cable is 20awg/28awg, and I'm guessing the phone detects the voltage drop in order to determine slow vs fast charge. FWIW, going from 20awg to 24awg yields an increase in resistance of 2.5x. I may be off base on this being the underlying cause, but I cannot think of any reason why I can fast charge on my 2.1A car charger only with the OEM cable, just like with the OEM wall charger. I'm going to hunt for a 20/28 USB cable to test this theory. In another thread, I said I was able to fast charge with regular USB cables on my car charger but I couldn't replicate it today. Phone would slow charge in all instances of USB cables, modified or not, on my 2.1A car charger.
yes, the cable is a difference.
other cables only show as slow charge with the same adapter.
now where to find these lg usb cables
illyfilly said:
yes, the cable is a difference.
other cables only show as slow charge with the same adapter.
now where to find these lg usb cables
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This.
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What about this car charger on Amazon?
My Motorola car charger has been superb. It has consistently outperformed any and all wall chargers.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...80004218&sr=8-1&keywords=motorola+car+charger
I bought amazon brand micro usb cables and they worked with the oem charger so they must be good enough to handle the extra load.
Is anyone else having problems with certain usb cords working? I have a 2.1A dual usb car charger, but only the stock G2 cord works for charging!
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Output shows 1A, which is standard for car chargers. Fast charge via our LG wall charger is 1.8A -- 80% faster than 1A car chargers.
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Yep...I know. I'm just saying that the phone doesn't popup that notification saying that it's slow-charging when I use that charger.
A lot of us have the slow charging problem. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem and the micro USB port isn't the highest quality and suffers from wear and tear. I've already replaced one and was going to have to do a second.
Instead, I've come up with a brute force solution that seems to be working. Whether it's hardware or software or green aliens, I simply increased the current flow by increasing the voltage. I bought a 5.6V 2A generic charger off eBay and wired a micro USB charger cable to it. Just two wires, +ve and -ve. Seems to be working. I tried 6V but the tablet rejected it.
It's not perfect but I can charge the tablet in about 4-5 hours, as opposed to 2 days. I'll post updates if anyone is interested.
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LeighR said:
A lot of us have the slow charging problem. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem and the micro USB port isn't the highest quality and suffers from wear and tear. I've already replaced one and was going to have to do a second.
Instead, I've come up with a brute force solution that seems to be working. Whether it's hardware or software or green aliens, I simply increased the current flow by increasing the voltage. I bought a 5.6V 2A generic charger off eBay and wired a micro USB charger cable to it. Just two wires, +ve and -ve. Seems to be working. I tried 6V but the tablet rejected it.
It's not perfect but I can charge the tablet in about 4-5 hours, as opposed to 2 days. I'll post updates if anyone is interested.
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I too have this problem, but i really didn't notice it till i had to go on a trip a friend and was gone 4 days. the tablet was on, but asleep.
When i got back the tablet was dead. it seemed to take over a full day of charging to get it back to full. Then a couple of days later i had got my Y charger adapter. i installed it, and added a USB stick for more storage.
I found out the next day i had to go out of town again, but i was going to drive this time. After being on the road a few hours playing videos, i noticed my tablet using more power than it was charging. So i removed the Y thinking it was faulty even tho it showed it was charging. I still had a slow charging problem with it removed.
I would like to know if this did indeed fix your issue.
It's not perfect but it will at least maintain battery whilst gaming with brightness up. Charging when off is WAY quicker than a standard 5V charger
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I've been "fixing" my Apple wired chargers for use with my Android devices.
## SKIP THIS IF YOU USE STOCK CHARGER ##
Probably 99.9% of android devices will expect shorted data pins, which is supposed to be the USB charging port standard. There are manufacturers that deviate slightly from this. For example Samsung adds 1.2volts to the data pins to signal that it's connected to a Samnsung charger and try to pull more amps (mostly for their early tablets). With the the S4 they added another signal voltage for their new 2 amp charger.
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Now for my point. My Nexus7, and S3 use the smb347 management IC (maybe the S4 too). It is picky when it comes to input voltage, and in the case of the Nexus7 it was programmed to be EXTRA picky. The USB standard port voltage is 5.0 ±0.25, while I believe a USB3 dedicated charging port raised this to 5.3volts. I would personally not follow LeighR advice and set up a supply to feed my devices with over 5.4volts.
If I was you I would look for chargers with a voltage under load of atleast 5.2. Use a multimeter to measure, I love the ChargerDoctor, but they used cheap connectors it drops a lot of voltage on top of the parasitic usage.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...Zt7W_x_A/w612-h816-no/IMG-20140709-WA0002.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-..._fkpgbzc/w612-h816-no/IMG-20140709-WA0003.jpg
Before mods:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...pJsAUnY/w1277-h958-no/IMG_20140607_185306.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...719-h958-no/IMG_20140618_141229%3Anopm%3A.jpg
After mods (Bridged data pins, 150k+47k resistors feeding pins with 1.2):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAApg8/p4rvEEEyMyI/w719-h958-no/2014-06-18
Charging my S3
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...3VDZwiA/w1277-h958-no/IMG_20140618_143535.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...skyVdO8/w1277-h958-no/IMG_20140618_143539.jpg
Idle https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...icLhIC2c/w719-h958-no/IMG-20140710-WA0006.jpg
Charging my N7, note the Nexus is programmed to be even more picky. It waits up to a minute to see if the charger is crap before switches from AC into an even higher amp mode.
Pulling 1.<something> takes 2-3 hours for a full charge from low battery (5-20%).
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...1j-A27s/w1277-h958-no/IMG-20140710-WA0000.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...2sQS3Go/w1277-h958-no/IMG-20140710-WA0002.jpg
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If you are too lazy to check or test any of that the Nexus 5 forums love these: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1687860482&pf_rd_i=915398
Any of the new "smart" chargers that detect the connected device should also work: http://www.amazon.ca/Family-Sized-D...id=1407621965&sr=8-1&keywords=powerIQ+charger
weedy2887 said:
I've been "fixing" my Apple wired chargers for use with my Android devices.
## SKIP THIS IF YOU USE STOCK CHARGER ##
Probably 99.9% of android devices will expect shorted data pins, which is supposed to be the USB charging port standard. There are manufacturers that deviate slightly from this. For example Samsung adds 1.2volts to the data pins to signal that it's connected to a Samnsung charger and try to pull more amps (mostly for their early tablets). With the the S4 they added another signal voltage for their new 2 amp charger.
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Now for my point. My Nexus7, and S3 use the smb347 management IC (maybe the S4 too). It is picky when it comes to input voltage, and in the case of the Nexus7 it was programmed to be EXTRA picky. The USB standard port voltage is 5.0 ±0.25, while I believe a USB3 dedicated charging port raised this to 5.3volts. I would personally not follow LeighR advice and set up a supply to feed my devices with over 5.4volts.
If I was you I would look for chargers with a voltage under load of atleast 5.2. Use a multimeter to measure, I love the ChargerDoctor, but they used cheap connectors it drops a lot of voltage on top of the parasitic usage.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...Zt7W_x_A/w612-h816-no/IMG-20140709-WA0002.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-..._fkpgbzc/w612-h816-no/IMG-20140709-WA0003.jpg
Before mods:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...pJsAUnY/w1277-h958-no/IMG_20140607_185306.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...719-h958-no/IMG_20140618_141229%3Anopm%3A.jpg
After mods (Bridged data pins, 150k+47k resistors feeding pins with 1.2):
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAApg8/p4rvEEEyMyI/w719-h958-no/2014-06-18
Charging my S3
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...3VDZwiA/w1277-h958-no/IMG_20140618_143535.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...skyVdO8/w1277-h958-no/IMG_20140618_143539.jpg
Idle https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...icLhIC2c/w719-h958-no/IMG-20140710-WA0006.jpg
Charging my N7, note the Nexus is programmed to be even more picky. It waits up to a minute to see if the charger is crap before switches from AC into an even higher amp mode.
Pulling 1.<something> takes 2-3 hours for a full charge from low battery (5-20%).
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...1j-A27s/w1277-h958-no/IMG-20140710-WA0000.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...2sQS3Go/w1277-h958-no/IMG-20140710-WA0002.jpg
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If you are too lazy to check or test any of that the Nexus 5 forums love these: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1687860482&pf_rd_i=915398
Any of the new "smart" chargers that detect the connected device should also work: http://www.amazon.ca/Family-Sized-D...id=1407621965&sr=8-1&keywords=powerIQ+charger
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weedy2887, my issue is that my tablet is a permanent install in a car, so i must use 12V-DC.
I have a 5.0V charger plugged into a cigarette lighter, and using the factory USB cable that can be plugged into an AC or DC connector.
Any suggestions for a fixed car mount?
Weedy2887 is correct that over voltage is of course a potential danger to your device. However, if the voltage is too high, your tablet/phone will reject it.
The voltmeter idea looks great but the problem is with the N7 microUSB connector. So you could be supplying 5.3 volts but high resistance due to a poor connection will drop some voltage and the potential difference actually reaching the battery will be lower, hence the slow charge.
He is of course correct that if your tablet is NOT faulty, it is not a good idea to hit it with a high voltage.
I like the idea of a smart charger - is it a constant current generator? Or does it detect current drawn and vary voltage accordingly? That would be an excellent solution. In any case, some great info posted, thanks.
Regarding the car installation, if your tablet has the super slow charging problem and you want to copy my solution, you'll need to find an in-car charger that puts out 5 and a bit volts and then wire on a micro USB connector.
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Being permanently installed changes nothing. You still need to pick a better supply.
Something adjustable, and then buy a micro usb plug:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Adjustable-B...814?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5667dc04a6
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/10PCS-Right-...567?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eca7f994f
or a better cig converter:
http://www.amazon.ca/Anker®-Dual-Po...id=1407657253&sr=8-2&keywords=powerIQ+charger
I dislike the idea of relying on the device to reject over voltage, it just feels dirty to me. And your point about connector losses is interesting. You could calibrate the charger with the tablet open and a multimeter on the solder behind the socket.
The "smart" part of the charger is it can detect what the client device is and setup the right pin out on the plug. IE: Apple, Android, HTC, or Samsung.
All very valid points. Agreed
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weedy2887 said:
or a better cig converter:
http://www.amazon.ca/Anker®-Dual-Po...id=1407657253&sr=8-2&keywords=powerIQ+charger
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I'm not understanding how this item is better than what i'm using.
This says:
PowerIQ™ technology maximizes compatibility with Android, Apple or other devices by enabling charge speeds of up to 2.4 amps.
What i'm using now says it is a 5 amp.
http://www.usbzilla.com/chrager-adapter-sony-xperia-icon-sola-p-1741.html
The one i had before had 2 connections. (1.5 amp and 2.1 amp bought from CVS)
http://www.dhgate.com/product/colorful-dual-usb-2-ports-car-charger-cigarette/160188100.html
Try this first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188910&page=3 Not the whole thread look at Post #25
This fixed the N7 I had. Takes about twenty minutes. Carefully pop the battery out, take out some screws to get access to the ribbon cable contact at the bottom, clean it and reconnect. Clean the top contact too by the battery plug.
It's not the usb port it's those damn little contacts on the ribbon cable.
In your case it was the ribbon cable. And you're right, it could be for other people too. But in other cases it's a worn microusb port or other issues.
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I'm not understanding how this item is better than what i'm using.
This says:
PowerIQ™ technology maximizes compatibility with Android, Apple or other devices by enabling charge speeds of up to 2.4 amps.
What i'm using now says it is a 5 amp.
http://www.usbzilla.com/chrager-adapter-sony-xperia-icon-sola-p-1741.html
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powerful 5 watt charging circuit to power up your iPhone, iPod or smartphone quickly
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Watts are not amps.
It's probably wired for Apple.
It doesn't matter what the side of it says it will put out.
The only thing that matters is what the tablet THINKS it can pull. After that is all down to the voltage level it will sustain under load.
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Try this first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188910&page=3 Not the whole thread look at Post #25
This fixed the N7 I had. Takes about twenty minutes. Carefully pop the battery out, take out some screws to get access to the ribbon cable contact at the bottom, clean it and reconnect. Clean the top contact too by the battery plug.
It's not the usb port it's those damn little contacts on the ribbon cable.
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In your case it was the ribbon cable. And you're right, it could be for other people too. But in other cases it's a worn microusb port or other issues.
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This method works for me, although not perfect. From frustratingly long 22 hour charge time down to 6 hours on 1.5amp charger
While the improvement is great, your still charging in USB mode.
The tablet will charge in a little over 2 hours if it's pulling over an amp from a charger.
Hey Nexus 6 owners, I'm patiently waiting for mine to show up tomorrow but I was wondering how long the charging cord is that comes with the phone?
If its short, has anyone replaced it with a linger cord and if so does it affect the fast charging feature or is that built into the wall plug?
spunks3 said:
Hey Nexus 6 owners, I'm patiently waiting for mine to show up tomorrow but I was wondering how long the charging cord is that comes with the phone?
If its short, has anyone replaced it with a linger cord and if so does it affect the fast charging feature or is that built into the wall plug?
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Its short...maybe three feet.
brizey said:
Its short...maybe three feet.
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Crud, I have a 6 foot cord but it prob won't work with turbo charge or whatever its called ... Guess I'll post my results when I have a few days to compare...
A longer cord should be a thicker gauge in order to offset the loss of energy. You can find 28/24 gauge (28 gauge data and 24 gauge power) USB cables just about anywhere.
Here is the cable I am using which is 6ft long: http://www.amazon.com/iXCC-Charger-Samsung-Android-Tablets/dp/B00MVAO742/
Here is a picture comparing it to the OEM cable.
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Charging with the OEM 3ft cable
Charging with the iXCC 6ft cable
First off, we should clarify that the Quick Charge 2.0 standard requires a data cable (not a charge-only cable) to work. In other words, it needs all four USB pins to be connected the their counterparts at the other end. If you have a longer cable, and it's not working, this is likely why. (Or, more precisely, it may charge your phone, but it'll be locked to the 5V setting, and won't be able to activate the 9V or 12V settings.)
Technically, ANY cable reduces DC voltage, and thus, the power that makes it to the other end. A one-inch cable has a voltage drop, as does a 50-foot cable. The difference is in the amount. So, ANY cable will affect fast charging. However, voltage drop is typically measured in percentages, so it will drop Quick Charge 1.0 (the 2A USB charge that we all know and love) the same percentage as it will with Quick Charge 2.0. However, since a standard (QC 1.0) cable charges at a max of 10W, and a QC 2.0 cable charges at a max of 36W, you'll see a larger drop with the higher power QC 2.0, even though the percentage would be the same. (I should point out that no QC 2.0 adapter currently charges at the 36W theoretical maximum. Even Moto's Turbo Charger is only pushing 14.4W at both the 12V and 9V levels, whereas the standard allows a maximum of 36W and 27W at those levels respectively.)
You can reduce the amount of voltage drop by buying AWG 20 or 22 cables (most USB cables are AWG 24 or even 28), but those are a lot thicker. The reality is that even an AWG 24 cable only loses like 6% voltage drop at 3M (10ft.), which is less than the 10% voltage variance allowed by most adapters. In short, you're not even going to notice. Unless you're dealing with a 25-50 ft. cable, I wouldn't worry about it "affecting" quick charge, because the only ones who will really notice the difference are the electrical engineers who designed it.
I have a 5 feet(standard OEM) Samsung cable dedicated for charging only, and it turbo charges the same as the stock one
jt3 said:
First off, we should clarify that the Quick Charge 2.0 standard requires a data cable (not a charge-only cable) to work. In other words, it needs all four USB pins to be connected the their counterparts at the other end. If you have a longer cable, and it's not working, this is likely why. (Or, more precisely, it may charge your phone, but it'll be locked to the 5V setting, and won't be able to activate the 9V or 12V settings.)
Technically, ANY cable reduces DC voltage, and thus, the power that makes it to the other end. A one-inch cable has a voltage drop, as does a 50-foot cable. The difference is in the amount. So, ANY cable will affect fast charging. However, voltage drop is typically measured in percentages, so it will drop Quick Charge 1.0 (the 2A USB charge that we all know and love) the same percentage as it will with Quick Charge 2.0. However, since a standard (QC 1.0) cable charges at a max of 10W, and a QC 2.0 cable charges at a max of 36W, you'll see a larger drop with the higher power QC 2.0, even though the percentage would be the same. (I should point out that no QC 2.0 adapter currently charges at the 36W theoretical maximum. Even Moto's Turbo Charger is only pushing 14.4W at both the 12V and 9V levels, whereas the standard allows a maximum of 36W and 27W at those levels respectively.)
You can reduce the amount of voltage drop by buying AWG 20 or 22 cables (most USB cables are AWG 24 or even 28), but those are a lot thicker. The reality is that even an AWG 24 cable only loses like 6% voltage drop at 3M (10ft.), which is less than the 10% voltage variance allowed by most adapters. In short, you're not even going to notice. Unless you're dealing with a 25-50 ft. cable, I wouldn't worry about it "affecting" quick charge, because the only ones who will really notice the difference are the electrical engineers who designed it.
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I mean the length of the cable matters, but as long as it's AWG 24 or thicker then it should be fine.
The attached graph shows 3 cables at 1, 3, and 6 ft lengths. They are all 28/28 gauge.
Working fine here with a 10ft cable.
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The provided cable is typical. Neither short nor long. Fortunately cable length is, if reasonable, irrelevant. I checked a 10 foot standard gauge cable and it charges at "high" speed.
I am looking to buy some 28/24 cables from monoprice...probably 6ft...since the included cable is even shorter than the Nexus 5 cable, which was barely enough for me.
Does anyone know if the included Nexus 6 cable is 24 or 28 gauge?
Also, I'd like to do some comparison between my cables to see which ones charge the fastest and how many mA they can pull...this is best done on a low battery, correct? At high charge levels it won't pull anywhere near 2000mA, from my understanding.
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I am looking to buy some 28/24 cables from monoprice...probably 6ft...since the included cable is even shorter than the Nexus 5 cable, which was barely enough for me.
Does anyone know if the included Nexus 6 cable is 24 or 28 gauge?
Also, I'd like to do some comparison between my cables to see which ones charge the fastest and how many mA they can pull...this is best done on a low battery, correct? At high charge levels it won't pull anywhere near 2000mA, from my understanding.
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I think pretty much all manufacturers use the 28/24 cables (which means, 28 Gauge for the data wires and 24 Gauge for the power wires). If you're REALLY concerned about it, Newegg has some 22 Gauge cables (that are actually 28/22 Gauge). They're the thickest cables that I've been able to find that are readily available without a crazy bulk requirement (like 1000 or more). If you buy two or more, they're less than $4 each, but that's still 3x the price of the 28/24 cables from Monoprice. The reality is that even without the turbo charger, the difference in charge time between the two (6 ft.) cables will likely be a few minutes at most.
Oh, also... If you're using the Turbo charger, you're not going to get close to 2A (2000mA) anyway, since it's only a 1.6A charger (at 5V or 9V -- 1.2A at 12V).
Thanks for the clarification. I read that most cheap cables are 28/28.
I have a 10 ft cable I bought from amazon works good fully charges phone in about 45mins
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Thanks for the clarification. I read that most cheap cables are 28/28.
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Yeah, I should clarify a bit further. When I said "manufacturers," I meant phone manufacturers. In other words, the data cables that typically come with phones will be 28/24. Cheap data cables can be 28/28 (sometimes with a nice thick shroud to hide this fact). Usually though, the really cheap cables won't be data cables at all, but charge-only cables. A lot of those are 28 Gauge.
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I have a 10 ft cable I bought from amazon works good fully charges phone in about 45mins
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What's the name of the 10ft cable and can you repost the link or item # on Amazon, the original link is directing me to the Amazon home page not an item page. Thanks.
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What's the name of the 10ft cable and can you repost the link or item # on Amazon, the original link is directing me to the Amazon home page not an item page. Thanks.
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i bought gold plated ones
http://www.amazon.com/Hi-mobiler-Ch...amsung+Lg+HTC+and+Other+Tablet+Smartphone+(Bl
Just ordered two of them.
How can you tell which is which?
jt3 said:
First off, we should clarify that the Quick Charge 2.0 standard requires a data cable (not a charge-only cable) to work. In other words, it needs all four USB pins to be connected the their counterparts at the other end. If you have a longer cable, and it's not working, this is likely why. (Or, more precisely, it may charge your phone, but it'll be locked to the 5V setting, and won't be able to activate the 9V or 12V settings.)
Technically, ANY cable reduces DC voltage, and thus, the power that makes it to the other end. A one-inch cable has a voltage drop, as does a 50-foot cable. The difference is in the amount. So, ANY cable will affect fast charging. However, voltage drop is typically measured in percentages, so it will drop Quick Charge 1.0 (the 2A USB charge that we all know and love) the same percentage as it will with Quick Charge 2.0. However, since a standard (QC 1.0) cable charges at a max of 10W, and a QC 2.0 cable charges at a max of 36W, you'll see a larger drop with the higher power QC 2.0, even though the percentage would be the same. (I should point out that no QC 2.0 adapter currently charges at the 36W theoretical maximum. Even Moto's Turbo Charger is only pushing 14.4W at both the 12V and 9V levels, whereas the standard allows a maximum of 36W and 27W at those levels respectively.)
You can reduce the amount of voltage drop by buying AWG 20 or 22 cables (most USB cables are AWG 24 or even 28), but those are a lot thicker. The reality is that even an AWG 24 cable only loses like 6% voltage drop at 3M (10ft.), which is less than the 10% voltage variance allowed by most adapters. In short, you're not even going to notice. Unless you're dealing with a 25-50 ft. cable, I wouldn't worry about it "affecting" quick charge, because the only ones who will really notice the difference are the electrical engineers who designed it.
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How can you tell if it is a data cable or a charge-only cable without taking it apart?
dalegg said:
How can you tell if it is a data cable or a charge-only cable without taking it apart?
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The easiest way is to use it to plug your phone into a computer. If your computer doesn't recognize that you've plugged your phone in, but does with other cables, then it's probably a charge-only cable.
spunks3 said:
Hey Nexus 6 owners, I'm patiently waiting for mine to show up tomorrow but I was wondering how long the charging cord is that comes with the phone?
If its short, has anyone replaced it with a linger cord and if so does it affect the fast charging feature or is that built into the wall plug?
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XtremeGuard is always doing 80% Off sales. Got one of their 6' cables for like 2$ and it works great with the Nexus6 turbo charger.
We need a synergy now. There's too many separate but insufficent discourses around. Also too much infollution. Let's discuss it here.
What we have to illuminate?
1) Best fast charger with type-a output?
2) Which ones charges fast (not only 3A)?
3) Are type-a chargers are capable to output 3A or not?
3a) If they are not, which wall chargers we should use for fast charging?
3b) if they are is there any (for example Tronsmart has a new 3A charger)
We may multiply the questions but we also need answers.
I know there's an article on droid-life but they only tested 5-6 chargers. We need more tests I think.
We have 1 rule: NO CAR CHARGERS!
I'm pretty sure that simply put, A to C does up to only 2.4A. Doesn't matter what wall charger you have. If you want full 3A fast charging speeds, C to C is the only way.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I'm pretty sure that simply put, A to C does up to only 2.4A. Doesn't matter what wall charger you have. If you want full 3A fast charging speeds, C to C is the only way.
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I second this. I have been digging into this the last few days. Here is what I have gathered. In order to be to "spec" USB A to C cables are only to pull up to 2.4A. USB C to C are only to pull up to 3A.
So, in my opinion it would be a waste to buy any USB A type wall chargers. I know I will only be looking at USB C type wall chargers myself. I mean, I want to take full advantage of and utilize the technology of my new phone to the fullest.
Now, in theory, if you had a USB A to USB C cable that was out of spec (3A pull) and a USB A wall charger that was capable of outputting 3A, it would charge as fast as a USB C to USB C. Like I said, in theory.
The problem that is going around right now is that the USB C side of a bunch of the USB A to USB C cables is trying to pull 3A, when it is only suppose to be pulling 2.4A max. The problem with that is, most wall chargers, usb ports on computers, etc can not handle outputting 3A. So, they can (and do!) brown out. (fry out / die / permanent damage)
I have been looking around for wall chargers with actual USB C ports on them, but I have yet to come across any. (Other than the stock chargers for the 5X and 6P and the ones on the google store) I will keep an eye on this thread, and will update when I do.
It looks like that the main issue is the a to c cable. I'm telling this because as I said there's a 3A pull-up capable type a charger with Qualcomm QC 3.0:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-wc1t-quick-charge-3.0-wall-charger
It means; at least; that type a - micro usb is capable to push/pull up 3A but if the limit on a to c is max. 2.4A this cables are not capable. It's really interesting. I know nothing about cables technically.
But with my high school physics knowledge I can say that if type c corner may pull-up 3A from the charger and if the charger is incapable and becomes hot it means that the cable tries to pullup 3A and also type a corner of the cable may pull 3A.
So if the charger is capable to push 3A a to c may pull up to 3A.
Why we say a to c does only up to 2.4A then?
kamajikaciya said:
It looks like that the main issue is the a to c cable. I'm telling this because as I said there's a 3A pull-up capable type a charger with Qualcomm QC 3.0:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-wc1t-quick-charge-3.0-wall-charger
It means; at least; that type a - micro usb is capable to push/pull up 3A but if the limit on a to c is max. 2.4A this cables are not capable. It's really interesting. I know nothing about cables technically.
But with my high school physics knowledge I can say that if type c corner may pull-up 3A from the charger and if the charger is incapable and becomes hot it means that the cable tries to pullup 3A and also type a corner of the cable may pull 3A.
So if the charger is capable to push 3A a to c may pull up to 3A.
Why we say a to c does only up to 2.4A then?
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The answer for this question from Benson:
Tronsmart's Quick Charge 3.0 charger has a Type-A port, and if you read the fine print, at 5V, it is only allowed to output 2A. This charger is NOT capable of 3A.
Furthermore, you misunderstand the need for the pullup resistor. The pullup resistor is on a new pin in the Type-C connector and plug that doesn't exist on Type-A or Type-B plugs or connectors called CC or Configuration Channel.
kamajikaciya said:
So if the charger is capable to push 3A a to c may pull up to 3A.
Why we say a to c does only up to 2.4A then?
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A to C cables have to advertise default USB power which is 0,5A, because that it how USB used to work.
More current can be negotiated using a special combination of resistors connected to the data lines. There is 0.5, 1.5 and 2.4A, (and possibly more negotiations I don't remember)
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A to C cables have to advertise default USB power which is 0,5A, because that it how USB used to work.
More current can be negotiated using a special combination of resistors connected to the data lines. There is 0.5, 1.5 and 2.4A, (and possibly more negotiations I don't remember)
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May you be a little bit specific? We will get only 0,5A with a to c cables or it depends on charger's capacity?
For example I have 1 FrieQ and 2 Google a to c cable. Which ampere this cables will be able to pull from charger? 0,5A always or up to 2,4A max?
With a USB A to C cables which fulfils the specs, the phone will first see a legacy USB Port with 0.5A and then it can negotiate a higher current up to 2.4A.
What is possible depends on the charger though.
You may Google for 'USB DCP divider mode' to find more information about possible combinations.
USB C is going to be the standard in the future. I don't own a tablet, or any other devices myself. So I have no need for any type A adapters now. I am just going to stick with Type C to C adapters for my 5X. Seems the best way to go. I bought 1 x 3' USB A to USB C cable and it is only for hooking my 5X to my computer.
I bought the Vinsic charger and a 3' USB C to USB C cable for my car. Both were approved by Benson. The Vinsic charger is a car charger, and it has a 3A USB C Port on it. The 5X displays "charging rapidly" when plugged into it. (It also has a 2.4A USB A port on it as well, but you wont get full amperage when charging two devices at the same time) Sorry, I know you said no car chargers but it goes with the whole USB A is 2.4A and USB C is 3A, just like house chargers. Now, that Quick Charger 3.0 adapter is interesting. I wonder if the 2.4A spec only applies to USB A to USB C cables. Can a USB A to Micro USB cable pull 3A?
I am still looking around and keeping an eye out for more USB C house charges. I will post my findings.
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I'm pretty sure that simply put, A to C does up to only 2.4A. Doesn't matter what wall charger you have. If you want full 3A fast charging speeds, C to C is the only way.
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That is the answer. I'm currently testing this quick charge with AC cable, and using a Type-C charger with CC cable.
http://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Charging-Technology-Certified-Supported/dp/B017I7EX46/
please share your experience
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That is the answer. I'm currently testing this quick charge with AC cable, and using a Type-C charger with CC cable.
http://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-Charging-Technology-Certified-Supported/dp/B017I7EX46/
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i like to order one, pls share your experience.
that the only type c charger for the moment.
TNX
pinkman1 said:
i like to order one, pls share your experience.
that the only type c charger for the moment.
TNX
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It is well built and works fine...almost the same speed as the OEM charger.
I picked up their Type C-C cable and charger and have had a week to compare them to the OEM units we received with our handset.
I was expecting marginal quality because of the low cost and unfamiliar manufacturer. When the order arrived, I was impressed with the packaging, which speaks volumes to me. When you make a quality product, presentation matters. Conversely, when your selling junk, you throw it in the cheapest plastic bag possible and call it good.
After using this cable and charger exclusively for the past seven days, I can confirm it's as good as the OEM. Personally, I like the Choetech cable better because it's sturdier in my hand.
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They now have a power bank up on Amazon which will be my next purchase. I'm confident that it will be solid based on my experience with them to date. I saw a similar power bank that was given in a Project Fi welcome kit and I've been lusting over one ever since.
tgearman said:
I picked up their Type C-C cable and charger and have had a week to compare them to the OEM units we received with our handset.
I was expecting marginal quality because of the low cost and unfamiliar manufacturer. When the order arrived, I was impressed with the packaging, which speaks volumes to me. When you make a quality product, presentation matters. Conversely, when your selling junk, you throw it in the cheapest plastic bag possible and call it good.
After using this cable and charger exclusively for the past seven days, I can confirm it's as good as the OEM. Personally, I like the Choetech cable better because it's sturdier in my hand.
They now have a power bank up on Amazon which will be my next purchase. I'm confident that it will be solid based on my experience with them to date. I saw a similar power bank that was given in a Project Fi welcome kit and I've been lusting over one ever since.
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Just looked up power bank you mentioned:
(Type C) CHOETECH 10400mAH Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank Fast Charger for Fast Charger for Lumia 950xl /950,Nexus 5x/Nexus 6p https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0188DIXX6/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_OpozwbDTBXJY6
Looks like it's only type-C input though.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Just looked up power bank you mentioned:
(Type C) CHOETECH 10400mAH Portable Charger External Battery Power Bank Fast Charger for Fast Charger for Lumia 950xl /950,Nexus 5x/Nexus 6p https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0188DIXX6/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_OpozwbDTBXJY6
Looks like it's only type-C input though.
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What a shame its not type C output....which is what people would want for nexus's
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Well here we go again. For OnePlus to actually get dash charging to work they are using non-spec compliant cords. These cords, if not used in a dash charger, will potentially break your phone and/or wall plug. They do not regulate currents probably and will allow the phone to try and pull more wattage than the wall plug/USB port can provide. This can create high temperatures at the port of the phone and port of the wall plug. DO NOT USE THESE CORDS UNLESS IT IS IN A DASH CHARGER
do you have a source?
cause I think the cords are just the same, but thicker to handle the high current.
So you can use it on every usb-c device, it is even more safe than most other cords.
" ... and will allow the phone to try and pull more wattage than the wall plug/USB port can provide"
the Cord can't "ask" for more wattage, the cord is only the way through.
washichi said:
do you have a source?
cause I think the cords are just the same, but thicker to handle the high current.
So you can use it on every usb-c device, it is even more safe than most other cords.
" ... and will allow the phone to try and pull more wattage than the wall plug/USB port can provide"
the Cord can't "ask" for more wattage, the cord is only the way through.
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The cord, with a proper regulator, should limit how much wattage the phone is trying to pull since it's USB C. But OnePlus's cord does not. Go to the Google Play Store and search USB C Test and the application should come up to show its non-compliant.
So now the cord has a "regulator"... ?
Man, tell me your dealer..
Does USB C test work on OP3 or does it need a Nexus?
The cable actually matters and can destroy devices if not USB-C compliant. A Google engineer tests a lot of cables after destroying his Chromebook. Read up here: https://m.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/
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On what basis do you say this! It has the right resistor. The app you talk about only passes if the product supports full USB-C USB 3.0 I believe. Try on a Nexus or something
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Unless you tinker with the specific (kernel) settings, how can a phone try to pull and use more power?
The phone can only receive the amount of power wich the outlet of the wall charger/USB connection provides?? The only thing I can think of is the specific recistance of the original OP3 USB-C cable.
The less recistance, the more power the phone could recieve, but normally not more than the output of the connected power source.
Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
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Unless you tinker with the specific (kernel) settings, how can a phone try to pull and use more power?
The phone can only receive the amount of power wich the outlet of the wall charger/USB connection provides?? The only thing I can think of is the specific recistance of the original OP3 USB-C cable.
The less recistance, the more power the phone could recieve, but normally not more than the output of the connected power source.
Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
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The phone will always request the maximum the cable can provide. If the cable is not properly made it will always report 5v 4amp. Since, it is reporting the 5v 4amp, it is allowing the phone to try and get that amount. This means the wall plug, if not a dash charger, is now being over taxed and will overheat to try and provide it.
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On what basis do you say this! It has the right resistor. The app you talk about only passes if the product supports full USB-C USB 3.0 I believe. Try on a Nexus or something
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That app is for any device. The cables are crap. Only use them for the dash charger. Don't stick them in your computer or non dash charger.
papi92 said:
That app is for any device. The cables are crap. Only use them for the dash charger. Don't stick them in your computer or non dash charger.
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I'm still not understanding exactly what you think is wrong with the cables? They have been said to have the correct resistor which is what caused issues with the other Cables.
The cables are said to have extra tech in them but I can't see why they wouldn't be dangerous or if anything similar was reported with VOOC cables.
If you are talking about CheckR:
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jpswer said:
I'm still not understanding exactly what you think is wrong with the cables? They have been said to have the correct resistor which is what caused issues with the other Cables.
The cables are said to have extra tech in them but I can't see why they wouldn't be dangerous or if anything similar was reported with VOOC cables.
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I tested the cable on my Nexus 6P. The cable is not to spec. Just get over it. Just use it with the dash charger and nothing else.
papi92 said:
That app is for any device. The cables are crap. Only use them for the dash charger. Don't stick them in your computer or non dash charger.
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Already did that and you know what ?
Nothing blew up.
Stop spreading FUD.
If the source provides X a cable can't magically make it Y.
Else I would buy only such cables and lay it throughout my home wiring (to provide me more than the meter will count and add to my bill).
Besides OP3 specified it as "USB 2.0, Type-C".
Means basically - USB Type C plug, but 2.0 Standard.
https://oneplus.net/uk/3/specs
Stop spreading FUD.
_PrEzi_ said:
Already did that and you know what ?
Nothing blew up.
Stop spreading FUD.
If the source provides X a cable can't magically make it Y.
Else I would buy only such cables and lay it throughout my home wiring (to provide me more than the meter will count and add to my bill).
Besides OP3 specified it as "USB 2.0, Type-C".
Means basically - USB Type C plug, but 2.0 Standard.
https://oneplus.net/uk/3/specs
Stop spreading FUD.
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I'm telling you it's not in spec. I'm not saying your phone will blow up. I'm not saying it will happen. But it COULD. It's more likely when the cord is not of spec.
papi92 said:
I'm telling you it's not in spec. I'm not saying your phone will blow up. I'm not saying it will happen. But it COULD. It's more likely when the cord is not of spec.
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Yeah, whatever.
I won't argue with you, because it seems we are on different levels, and you are far better on your level then I would ever be if I'd try to lower mine.
papi92 said:
I tested the cable on my Nexus 6P. The cable is not to spec. Just get over it. Just use it with the dash charger and nothing else.
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Thanks for clarifying you're using a Nexus 6P. Sorry but I trust OnePlus more than an app which maybe could be being confused by the tech. Until someone (like Benson Leung) tells me it's dangerous I'll be happily plugging it in to whatever.
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papi92 said:
I tested the cable on my Nexus 6P. The cable is not to spec. Just get over it. Just use it with the dash charger and nothing else.
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papi92 said:
I'm telling you it's not in spec. I'm not saying your phone will blow up. I'm not saying it will happen. But it COULD. It's more likely when the cord is not of spec.
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As you have Nexus 6P, please could you make this test and report the results? Oneplus cable is not USB Type-C compliant because it's USB2 cable but that doesn't mean it's automatically unsafe or dangerous to use with third party chargers or to plug it to pc's. Please, could you do that test and report the results. :fingers-crossed:
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Quote from linked website:
"6P
adb shell “cat /sys/class/typec/typec_device/current_detect”
Or from a shell on the phone
cat /sys/class/typec/typec_device/current_detect
Results:
If the result is 2 an A to C cable is non-compliant
Possible values
0 – standard USB charging
1 – 1.5A type C
2 – 3A type C
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https://bmcclure937.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/how-to-test-usb-c-cables-nexus-5x-and-nexus-6p/
If the cable test would report value 2, then it would indicate that the cable allows phone to draw too much current from the charger and could potentially be dangerous to pc's or wallchargers.
I already charged the phone with a power bank and provided oneplus cable.
papi92 said:
I tested the cable on my Nexus 6P. The cable is not to spec. Just get over it. Just use it with the dash charger and nothing else.
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Of course the app shows it is not spec compliant as it only checks it to show with USB-C spec
As it's a dash charging cable it won't be spec compliant with USB-C. It doesn't mean it will harm your device as there are circuits in the cable and the connector.
inffy said:
Of course the app shows it is not spec compliant as it only checks it to show with USB-C spec
As it's a dash charging cable it won't be spec compliant with USB-C. It doesn't mean it will harm your device as there are circuits in the cable and the connector.
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Well, I think what we all need is a reliable source on the subject. Speculation won't lead us very far...
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