Hi,
The Bluetooth A2DP stuttering bug on Lollipop is unacceptable, and I have heard that KitKat users did not have the same problem.
Is there a compatible KitKat 4.4.4 factory image that I can use to downgrade my XT1072?
Cheers,
Sunkai.
Having looked into ROMs a bit further, I am now targeting getting CM11 installed on my Thea device.
This would not only eliminate the Bluetooth A2DP stuttering, but also remove the infuriating "increasing ringtone volume" setting that is baked into the factory image by Motorola.
Has anyone got CM11 running on their Thea device? I couldn't find an official build on the CyanogenMod web site.
Thea was never released with KitKat as far as I know, so finding a ROM would be unlikely, tbh.
I can't recommend the AOSP build (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2015/development/rom-android-source-project-t3141139) enough, smoother than stock, no launcher redraws and no bluetooth issues for me (I use my bluetooth speaker every day for an hour or two).
The ringtone also doesn't increase, highly recommended with TK stock Gapps, basically turning your Thea into a mini Nexus.
Thanks for the recommendation. I will trial the ROM and let you know if it has fixed my BT issue.
With system storage space being such a concern on the 8GB Thea devices, does the AOSP build's "Move To SD" function work for relocating apps?
sunka1 said:
Thanks for the recommendation. I will trial the ROM and let you know if it has fixed my BT issue.
With system storage space being such a concern on the 8GB Thea devices, does the AOSP build's "Move To SD" function work for relocating apps?
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Yes AOSP does let you move apps, in fact I think it lets you move more of them. But as TK Gapps installs all the stock Google apps to the /system partition, I've ended up with a bit more free space on my device. Obv YMMV, but give it a go.
rickbosch said:
Thea was never released with KitKat as far as I know, so finding a ROM would be unlikely, tbh.
I can't recommend the AOSP build (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2015/development/rom-android-source-project-t3141139) enough, smoother than stock, no launcher redraws and no bluetooth issues for me (I use my bluetooth speaker every day for an hour or two).
The ringtone also doesn't increase, highly recommended with TK stock Gapps, basically turning your Thea into a mini Nexus.
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My initial impression is good. I have not encountered the extreme Bluetooth A2DP skipping that I experienced with the factory 5.0.2 LL image. It is unpredictable, and can take some time to manifest though, so if it does occur I'll report back here.
I wouldn't expect to get OTA updates for a custom ROM, so I assume that I will need to use TWRP to install any subsequent Android versions?
If I do this, will I lose all of my installed apps and data, as with the initial AOSP load?
Also, will I need to side load the TK stock Gapps to keep them up to date?
Thanks for your advice.
sunka1 said:
I wouldn't expect to get OTA updates for a custom ROM, so I assume that I will need to use TWRP to install any subsequent Android versions?
If I do this, will I lose all of my installed apps and data, as with the initial AOSP load?
Also, will I need to side load the TK stock Gapps to keep them up to date?
Thanks for your advice.
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No, you won't get OTAs. You will flash updates to your phone the same way you just did, via TWRP. keep an eye on the thread for update notifications and changelogs from the devs. Don't flash different ROMs over each other without a factory reset, or a "full wipe".
When updating a ROM you will only flash the update and NOT need to factory reset, that way you retain your data. Clearing the cache partition can help with initial crashes or problems you incur afterwards.
Yes, you can load the gapps and keep them up to date if you wish, TK's generally see updates on weekends. This is however optional and totally dependent on you bandwidth availability etc.
I generally just download and reflash one gapps package. Until there is a big change in the Gapps, then I'll update mine. Check the relevant thread for more flashing instructions.
Hope it helps. Also, backups in TWRP are a good thing to have.
Sent from my Moto G 2014 LTE
sunka1 said:
Hi,
The Bluetooth A2DP stuttering bug on Lollipop is unacceptable, and I have heard that KitKat users did not have the same problem.
Is there a compatible KitKat 4.4.4 factory image that I can use to downgrade my XT1072?
Cheers,
Sunkai.
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Maybe useful to note here, that I got my moto g 2nd gen xt1072 with kitkat loaded on it.
Bluetooth stuttering not occurring at all, it started with lollipop
So the stock kitkat rom must exist !
Can I install Lollipop or Marshmallow stock on this device? And it'd run smooth or it's better to use other ROMs?
Nothing? No ROM images?? Come on!
There is NO stock KitKat ROM for thea (XT1072,XT1077,XT1078,XT1079).
Lollipop update was a huge one with deep changes and I don't recommend downgrading a device to an earlier version that the one it was sold with.
On other devices, the bootloader is not compatible and downgrading can brick the device.
According to these reports, it seems KitKat custom roms can be installed but it is not recommended !
As Thea doesn't have any kitkat rom, I suppose you took it from titan ? (Titan = no-4G variant)
Don't forget that Thea (XT107x) is a DIFFERENT device than Titan (XT106x,I think).
It doesn't only add 4g, it has a different Soc (different processor...), a different battery. So Titan ROMs are not compatible with Thea. End of the line.
Some may work, but are not made for it.
Flashing a titan ROM on thea is just like flashing a galaxy S6 ROM onto a Sony xperia Z3. They are different devices.
Sigur Rós said:
Can I install Lollipop or Marshmallow stock on this device? And it'd run smooth or it's better to use other ROMs?
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Yes you can. But prefer roms like Cyanogenmod it's clean you install gapps (any version you want).
It's far better than stock ones
someone has cm11 for mto g XT1078 thea ? if please have me send the link to download please
there is no stock kitkat and also no cm11 for this phone!
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/gordonkelly/files/2014/09/IMG_20140924_123904-1940x1435.jpg
So what?...
Mr.Sugo said:
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/gordonkelly/files/2014/09/IMG_20140924_123904-1940x1435.jpg
So what?...
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This link a picture of the moto g 2nd gen without LTE
The variant without LTE can be downgraded to KitKat because it was released with KitKat.
The variant with LTE was released with lollipop and CAN'T be downgraded to KitKat.
sunka1 said:
Hi,
The Bluetooth A2DP stuttering bug on Lollipop is unacceptable, and I have heard that KitKat users did not have the same problem.
Is there a compatible KitKat 4.4.4 factory image that I can use to downgrade my XT1072?
Cheers,
Sunkai.
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Not possible. Although Titan and Thea share the same board, bootloader restrictions and source tree changes will not allow you to boot CM11 or any KitKat code, let alone a full ROM. Try CyanogenMod 12.1 or 13 instead, although you have to unlock your bootloader and install TWRP. It has many improvements over stock Android without losing stability and even gaining some speed. Also most CM kernels for Titan will work in Thea as well. I am currently running CM12.1 snapshot and it's butter smooth with zero bugs.
Mavireck said:
There is NO stock KitKat ROM for thea (XT1072,XT1077,XT1078,XT1079).
Lollipop update was a huge one with deep changes and I don't recommend downgrading a device to an earlier version that the one it was sold with.
On other devices, the bootloader is not compatible and downgrading can brick the device.
According to these reports, it seems KitKat custom roms can be installed but it is not recommended !
As Thea doesn't have any kitkat rom, I suppose you took it from titan ? (Titan = no-4G variant)
Don't forget that Thea (XT107x) is a DIFFERENT device than Titan (XT106x,I think).
It doesn't only add 4g, it has a different Soc (different processor...), a different battery. So Titan ROMs are not compatible with Thea. End of the line.
Some may work, but are not made for it.
Flashing a titan ROM on thea is just like flashing a galaxy S6 ROM onto a Sony xperia Z3. They are different devices.
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They are variants of the same motherboard AFAIK, same camera, same CPU and GPU and resolution, same SD unit, but on the bootloader and RIL level they are fully different. Some kernels can be cross-flashed, and even some Titan recoveries boot on Thea (although a very bad idea with zero good results) ROMs must be adapted to the full board and cannot be cross-flashed.
After buying it I powered on it and it auto updated to Fire OS 5.1.1.
Looking through XDA it seems like there's no differenciation between 5.0.2 and 5.1.1 for making custom things.
My question is which of these:
-Changing the default launcher (to Nova for example)
-Rooting
-Installing custom ROM
methods are compatible with 5.1.1?
Sorry for the bad english, help is appreciated.
yuriy636 said:
After buying it I powered on it and it auto updated to Fire OS 5.1.1.
Looking through XDA it seems like there's no differenciation between 5.0.2 and 5.1.1 for making custom things.
My question is which of these:
-Changing the default launcher (to Nova for example)
-Rooting
-Installing custom ROM
methods are compatible with 5.1.1?
Sorry for the bad english, help is appreciated.
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5.0.1 allows Fastboot boot which allows custom recoveries to boot
5.1.1 does not but you can flash roms using Flashfire instead after getting Root
Ownster said:
5.0.2 allows Fastboot boot which allows custom recoveries to boot
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5.0.2 You mean 5.0.1
There is no 5.0.2
If I buy the 50 dollar fire hd 7 from amazon will I be able to root it and install cm12.1?
Bren123 said:
If I buy the 50 dollar fire hd 7 from amazon will I be able to root it and install cm12.1?
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Just to be clear, the tablet I believe you are referring to is the Amazon Fire 7" (not HD).
As of right now, the answer to your question depends on which version of FireOS your new tablet ships with. If it is a version lower than 5.1.3 then it can be rooted, before installing [ROM][UNOFFICIAL] CM-12.1 [20 Apr 2016]
FireOS 5.0.1, 5.1.1 or 5.1.2: Root it using the SuperTool by carefully choosing the correct options corresponding to the exact version you have.
FireOS 5.1.2.1: Download version 5.1.2 from this link and downgrade to it using the apply update from ADB option in stock recovery, then root it using the SuperTool as above.
FireOS 5.1.3: No method of rooting this particular version has been confirmed (yet).
Warning: Do not attempt to downgrade from 5.1.2 to 5.1.1 or from 5.1.1 to 5.0.1 - doing so will brick your device.
You may also want to consider an alternative ROM for this device, such as one of these:
[ROM][AOSP] Fire Nexus ROM - LMY49J [20 Apr 2016]
[ROM] SlimLP 5.1.1 for Amazon Fire 2015 (Ford)
[ROM] Resurrection-Remix-LP-v5.5.9 Amaz�³n Fire 2015 (Ford) (17-12-2015)
BTW, similar questions have been asked recently here and here.
m00head said:
Just to be clear, the tablet I believe you are referring to is the Amazon Fire 7" (not HD).
As of right now, the answer to your question depends on which version of FireOS your new tablet ships with. If it is a version lower than 5.1.3 then it can be rooted, before installing [ROM][UNOFFICIAL] CM-12.1 [20 Apr 2016]
FireOS 5.0.1, 5.1.1 or 5.1.2: Root it using the SuperTool by carefully choose the correct options corresponding to the exact version you have.
FireOS 5.1.2.1: Download version 5.1.2 from this link and downgrade to it using the apply update from ADB option in stock recovery, then root it using the SuperTool as above.
FireOS 5.1.3: No method of rooting this particular version has been confirmed (yet).
Warning: Do not attempt to downgrade from 5.1.2 to 5.1.1 or from 5.1.1 to 5.0.1 - doing so will brick your device.
You may also want to consider an alternative ROM for this device, such as one of these:
[ROM][AOSP] Fire Nexus ROM - LMY49J [20 Apr 2016]
[ROM] SlimLP 5.1.1 for Amazon Fire 2015 (Ford)
[ROM] Resurrection-Remix-LP-v5.5.9 Amazón Fire 2015 (Ford) (17-12-2015)
BTW, similar questions have been asked recently here and here.
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Is there a good chance it will be 5.1.2 or 5.1.2.1
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Bren123 said:
Is there a good chance it will be 5.1.2 or 5.1.2.1
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yes, at least 50%
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Some stores like Frys and probably Microcenter have them in stock. I bought one the other week and it was 5.1.1, no shipping fees either.
I picked up an HD+ to setup for mom to use. Although I have plenty of experience with other devices, I am learning that HD+ is a bit unique in how it upgrades.
This leads to some questions. The HD+ currently has TWRP and CM12.1 installed.
1) To upgrade TWRP to a newer build (I found a 3.0.1.0 zip), is it as simple as flashing the zip?
2) To upgrade from CM12.1 to a new AOSP MM build, is it as simple as wipe, flashing the zip, and then GApps in TWRP?
3) Related to #2 above, I presume GApps is needed for AOSP builds? The standard GApps will work?
4) In terms of stability and reliability, how is AOSP compared to CM13?
Thanks.
snovvman said:
I picked up an HD+ to setup for mom to use. Although I have plenty of experience with other devices, I am learning that HD+ is a bit unique in how it upgrades.
This leads to some questions. The HD+ currently has TWRP and CM12.1 installed.
1) To upgrade TWRP to a newer build (I found a 3.0.1.0 zip), is it as simple as flashing the zip?
2) To upgrade from CM12.1 to a new AOSP MM build, is it as simple as wipe, flashing the zip, and then GApps in TWRP?
3) Related to #2 above, I presume GApps is needed for AOSP builds? The standard GApps will work?
4) In terms of stability and reliability, how is AOSP compared to CM13?
Thanks.
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Info I found on my questions, in case someone needs it:
1, 2, and 3, Yes, Yes, and Yes. A lot of info in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-hd/development/marshmallow-nook-hd-hd-t3239269
For Gapps, look at post #1063
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67624159&postcount=1063
For 4, both AOSP and CM13 seem to have issues, but I most seem to report that AOSP is a bit more snappy.