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Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6. One thing I'm curious is how are people coping with not have Xposed modules. Are you depending on custom roms and themes to make up the difference? Currently on my Note Edge I use App Settings, Heads Up Notifications, Multiwindow plus. Notifly Clean, Swipeback and YouTube Adaway among others. For example App Settings really comes in handy for changing look of apps and such (can give more of a tablet UI). I'd especially like to hear from folks that heavily used Xposed in the past to get their impressions. Anyways, I might get a N6 or wait a bit more to see what comes out at CES. Thanks!
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Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6. One thing I'm curious is how are people coping with not have Xposed modules. Are you depending on custom roms and themes to make up the difference? Currently on my Note Edge I use App Settings, Heads Up Notifications, Multiwindow plus. Notifly Clean, Swipeback and YouTube Adaway among others. For example App Settings really comes in handy for changing look of apps and such (can give more of a tablet UI). I'd especially like to hear from folks that heavily used Xposed in the past to get their impressions. Anyways, I might get a N6 or wait a bit more to see what comes out at CES. Thanks!
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I have adaway on my Nexus 6 and it works great. It's part of the LS ROM. The Nexus 6 is fine without xposed even after using it heavily on all of my other phones. If you want a tablet UI then you can change the DPI on your phone to 320 (560 is stock) and most people seen to like 460-480dpi. It's well worth the upgrade if you love to flash. Anything from CES (LG, ASUS, Samsung etc..) Won't have nearly as much development if any compared to a Nexus device. I like to flash ROM's and kernels so rather than deal with the hassle of unbricking a LG or Samsung with factory tools I can flash the stock ROM via fastbokt with my nexus easily. It's all up to what you plan to use the phone for. Any new phone debuting this year won't have xposed anyway because they will have lollipop
Your problem is not the Nexus 6, your problem is with Lollipop. Due time, Xposed will be made to work with ART.
Regardless of whatever phone you're using, if it has Lollipop, Xposed will not work.
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I have adaway on my Nexus 6 and it works great. It's part of the LS ROM. The Nexus 6 is fine without xposed even after using it heavily on all of my other phones. If you want a tablet UI then you can change the DPI on your phone to 320 (560 is stock) and most people seen to like 460-480dpi. It's well worth the upgrade if you love to flash. Anything from CES (LG, ASUS, Samsung etc..) Won't have nearly as much development if any compared to a Nexus device. I like to flash ROM's and kernels so rather than deal with the hassle of unbricking a LG or Samsung with factory tools I can flash the stock ROM via fastbokt with my nexus easily. It's all up to what you plan to use the phone for. Any new phone debuting this year won't have xposed anyway because they will have lollipop
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zephiK said:
Your problem is not the Nexus 6, your problem is with Lollipop. Due time, Xposed will be made to work with ART.
Regardless of whatever phone you're using, if it has Lollipop, Xposed will not work.
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Thanks for your replys. I was wondering if folks could change dpi on apps individually instead of globally.
Clearly lollipop is inevitable. I've tried a recently released developers version of lollipop on my former dd (Note 3) and it has some nice features plus some Note 4 multiwindow improvements. But I also missed my Xposed mods when using it. The main problem I'm having with the EDGE is that I'm not sure how much development will continune on it. Currently there are two very nice roms (I'm refering to tmobile here variant) but no custom kernels. So I guess I'm suffering from developer envy lol... CES should be interesting in that more devices should be introduced with 64 bit processors along with, perhaps some of the larger screen sony devices. At lest that is the hope!
Given the fact that Xposed does not work on art how will that affect your decision to upgrade to Android L?
Comments should include lots of beer for Rovo89.
Due to xprivacy needing xposed it's the only thing that makes me still use kitkat..
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Aren't "no" and "I will wait until Xposed works with ART" the same answer? If you won't upgrade without Xposed ("No"), that seems to imply you would upgrade if it works with ART.
I'm willing to wait, there are a few Xposed mods I really care about like Xposed call block, full use of Greenify, MinMinLock and RootCloak, and others I could probably learn to live without but still find convenient like Chrome New Tab, CrappaLinks, Play Store link in App info, PlayPermissionsExpoxed, Statusbar Scroll to Top, and Swype Tweaks.
I upgraded my Nexus 7 to Lollipop (on Purity ROM) without Xposed, but I don't use that daily like my phone, so on that I'm wiling to wait, and even stay on KitKat indefinitely.
I can stick with KK for many more years.... Until Xposed come for LP, I WIL NOT have LP... Simple...
Perhaps it's just me, but, I'm also still on win7, until...
You may stick with KK and Xposed for years, but devs probably no. They would slowly abandon their modules, if Xposed framework development stopped.
Nah I will wait. There isn't single feature in Lollipop that isn't in KitKat.
I've been holding out, but just last night I decided to try out CM12 through MultiRom and now I'm completely torn.
On one hand, I have my beloved Xposed modules which add awesome functionality as well as some fantastic visuals (Flat Style Keyboard is the most difficult to give up...) and on the other hand is the absolutely beautiful experience of using Lollipop. I hadn't used it first-hand until now, and I was honestly blown away, and still am after using the rom all day today. Everything is just so much smoother and feels like it is working the way it should. I feel that with material design, Android finally stands up to iOS in terms of visual appeal, fluidness, and consistency.
*sigh* I suppose I'll find myself switching off between the two roms for a while, unable to choose one.
Still on 4.4.4, cause xposed isn't compatible with lollipop yet :-/
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...upgrade to Android L? ...lots of beer for Rovo89.
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Rovo developes Xposed for other reason, not beer, not money. Let us hope he still has reason strong enough to open up ART so Xposed modules will work on Lollipop.
Point of clarification: "Android L" is an early version of Lollipop. Since then, we have seen Android 5.0, Android 5.0.1, and the latest is Android 5.0.2, which is the only Lollipop I have tried. After trying it for about 2 days, I went back because I felt need for my Xposed modules. But, after only a few hours off Lollipop, I went back to it! And then, began finding work arounds for missing features. ART is so smooth and responsive, and Lollipop has a great new recent apps switcher 'Rolodex' that is wonderfully fluid, useful, and fun. I love these and other things Lollipop brings. Found ways to deal with all desired features. Even Xprivacy issues have work arounds, thanks to App Ops in CM-12. None the less, while using and enjoying Lollipop, I am keeping up hope that Rovo brings Xposed to ART.
using CM12 without xposed
Please, that is exactly the reason why the dev have no motivation to spend energy in this project any more.
No question, exposed is a revolutionary mod for android geeks like us.
Don't put pressure on the dev!
Thanks for attention
Still on KitKat. Mainly because it allows me to continue maintaining and supporting my xposed modules.
Would be too uncomfortable to switch ROMs everytime I need to test stuff.
I decided to pull the plug on kitkat and upgrade my exynos S5. I'm definitely missing the xposed experience on my phone. Starting from the full use of greenify ( especially wake-up tracker and cutoff) to all the small tweaks and quirks we're doing to our UI, and the whole OS.
It made me not take for granted the huge amount of work put into the framework itself, and the work put in by the devs of all the modules that we use daily. Huge thanks to all the developers out there and I hope one day we will have a working version of the xposed framework for the new Android iteration.
I'm on my way to make a donation to the xposed framework Dev and I encourage others to do so too.
Plan on staying with KitKat unless I decide to switch to Cyanogen. Being on a Note 3 I kinda have mixed feelings missing some S-Pen functionality.
I had to make the jump, at least temporarily. . Definitely missing some things, but nothing I can't live without.
I've upgraded to Lollipop several times now, but have reverted to KitKat each time. Not specifically because of the XPosed incompatibility, although that affected my decision. Mostly because the ROM I'm using now on my i9300 has so much extra functionality. Secondarily, Lollipop simply isn't giving me the battery life I've been getting on the KitKat I'm using--and that's something I find very important in a ROM.
That being said, again today I've tried a newer version of what's billed as one of the better Lollipop ROMs for my set; we'll see if I stay with it.
I only have one XPosed module that I use, and it's visual, so...although I miss it, I can live without it.
Yep still on kitkit cm11, mostly because of xposed and XMG compatibility not present on cm12. stupid ART!
i would like to hit over to android 5, for the fact that call sound actually works with latest Google Play Services... but its a minor setback sticking with kitkat... not like i get called enough that it bothers me much, #foreveralone :crying:
still sucks that i cant use most gapps cause of this =/ (i restored factory version, which doesn't self update)
ah well will have to wait a few months to see the progress of xposed and xmg ART runtime compatibility
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I decided to pull the plug on kitkat and upgrade my exynos S5. I'm definitely missing the xposed experience on my phone. Starting from the full use of greenify ( especially wake-up tracker and cutoff) to all the small tweaks and quirks we're doing to our UI, and the whole OS.
It made me not take for granted the huge amount of work put into the framework itself, and the work put in by the devs of all the modules that we use daily. Huge thanks to all the developers out there and I hope one day we will have a working version of the xposed framework for the new Android iteration.
I'm on my way to make a donation to the xposed framework Dev and I encourage others to do so too.
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What about the hard work of developers who've been toiling away hard on the Lollipop ROMs bringing you various mods without xposed?
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What about the hard work of developers who've been toiling away hard on the Lollipop ROMs bringing you various mods without xposed?
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I'm modifying my own system files for lollipop. As an IT engineer I know my way around how Linux/Unix systems work, and have a bit of programming language background.
I was solely referring that we should support what we are using (as I used xposed and decided to support it into further development), but I'm not using any other "mods" from other developers.
Unlike the vast majority of Android users, I buy all my software.
But I believe that the users should support the work of their devs, or if you're developing something, I hope your users will support whatever it is you're working on (I've seen you have clearly taken offense)
No offense taken
Like the title says, Is it worth it to root the note 5 ?
I don't see any mod project in the development section to make me root to add some features so I'm wondering will I regret losing my warranty for nothing ?
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salahfathi said:
Like the title says, Is it worth it to root the note 5 ?
I don't see any mod project in the development section to make me root to add some features so I'm wondering will I regret losing my warranty for nothing ?
Thanks
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I rooted mine on day 1. I don't regret it.
I love tweaking my phones, adding new features, de-bloating, making it look like a boss, ect, but most important, I want to do what I want with it, not what Samsung or some carrier says.
salahfathi said:
Like the title says, Is it worth it to root the note 5 ?
I don't see any mod project in the development section to make me root to add some features so I'm wondering will I regret losing my warranty for nothing ?
Thanks
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Only you can decide whether it's worth it and whether there is anything you need root to do. For me it is backup, change dpi and most importantly viper audio. Headphones sound out of this world once that is installed.
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while it's totally up to you, i MUST root all android devices i have, first to make sure greenify works with all the experimental functions(xposed required), some modules i use with xposed that must for me.
On note 5, disabling DVFS and installing latest arter97 kernel, unlock all potential of Exynos 7420 while gaming, this can be easily seen when playing demanding games, DVFS is too aggressive and try to lower your gpu and cpu clock down way too fast, with it's disabled, all glory unleashed
Here you have a proper review of the MM firmware update for the 8.4 inch model.
I personaly didnt like the update it hasnt got a much better performance and it hasnt got any design change like new samsung devices. It also hasnt got the theme store or microsd card as internal storage option. Its as laggy as the old LP and it doesnt have all languages (12 languages). Another thing to mention is that the s planner icon the gallery icon and the s browser icon are a bit blurred. It doesnt matter that much but its embarrassing anyway for such a big manufacturer like samsung. The biggest changes are the changed icons which now look like the ones on the note 5 on 5.1.1. Also the wallpapers has been repleaced with the s7 wallpapers as well as ALL transition animations. The last thing to mention is that the magazine UX is not working anymore, no matter if u activate it in the launcher settings or not.
Here is the video about the real life performance and all changes
Thank you for the review. At least we've been upgraded to 6.0.1 so the custom ROMs from the likes of yourselves will see an improvement
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Thank you for the review. At least we've been upgraded to 6.0.1 so the custom ROMs from the likes of yourselves will see an improvement
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Yeah but there are so many people who dont even know about custom roms.
And the bad performance like in 5.0.2 could be fixed also.
But yes u are tight at least we got thag update where others likentab pro didnt even got one updatesince now
Limited number of languages is because this first release is the Korean region version, and not an XXU1 (worldwide) version
It's sad indeed that Samsung has disabled adoptable storage for SD card. Do any of the workarounds found on other devices work here?
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Limited number of languages is because this first release is the Korean region version, and not an XXU1 (worldwide) version
It's sad indeed that Samsung has disabled adoptable storage for SD card. Do any of the workarounds found on other devices work here?
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I am not sure but i think i have heard that someone has found a way to activate that on the s7..
Looking at the pictures I do not see much changing
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aumast said:
Looking at the pictures I do not see much changing
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That's because Samsung almost never update the Touchwiz UI for older devices.
The important part is that all Marshmallow features are there. (Well, except the adoptable storage, but there's a workaround using adb.)
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I am not sure but i think i have heard that someone has found a way to activate that on the s7..
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That method has so far only worked on the S7. It fails on other devices like the S5 and Note 4 that got MM. A rooted device might have an alternative solution tho.
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Annoying that they didn't implement all the icon changes - ie they rounded all the default installed apps but not the Folder icon. The Note 4 got the new folders when MM came out. ?
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Annoying that they didn't implement all the icon changes - ie they rounded all the default installed apps but not the Folder icon. The Note 4 got the new folders when MM came out.
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Jup also saw that. Also the app drawer icon is still the same as before. They havnt changed anything on the TWlauncher :/
Sounds like my experience with MM on other devices. Not a huge difference. The improvements were fairly incremental. I'll probably keep LP on my rooted Tab S for a long time, and then flash the MM ROM when the final version/update comes out.
Guys, I totally understand your concerns about the shallow TouchWiz UI, but the major advancement with MM is supposed to be doze, which works under the hood. That alone justifies migrating to MM, IMHO. ?
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We always have the devs who makes sh*tty Samsung ROMs into masterpieces
Another important change is that this Rom should be compatible to a lot of newer Samsung apps as well as Rom mods from different devices. Stuff like Game Launcher or Good Lock for example should now work and maybe someone can port some other elements of newer devices like Grace UI. Good Lock alone is enough to change the notification UI BTW.
Anyway, what about the performance of the device? Has it improved with M?
Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
TheGoD said:
Another important change is that this Rom should be compatible to a lot of newer Samsung apps as well as Rom mods from different devices. Stuff like Game Launcher or Good Lock for example should now work and maybe someone can port some other elements of newer devices like Grace UI. Good Lock alone is enough to change the notification UI BTW.
Anyway, what about the performance of the device? Has it improved with M?
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Good lock has some bugs on the tab s.
The notification height is too small and the width of the quick settings and keep area is too big also.. However i fixed both with a modified good lock apk but it wont recompile -.- when i get that fixed i will upload this tab s modified good lock app
For grace ui i would recommend to wait its only aviable on phones yet. Sure we can port them but they wont look good on a tablet. The best way is to optimize them after porting but i know it from sucukrom when i ported s6 systemui and launcher - optimizing was hard and boring like hell.
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Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
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There must be gone something wrong while testing. This score is reallly bad..
TimurAlaskara_TR said:
Good lock has some bugs on the tab s.
The notification height is too small and the width of the quick settings and keep area is too big also.. However i fixed both with a modified good lock apk but it wont recompile -.- when i get that fixed i will upload this tab s modified good lock app
For grace ui i would recommend to wait its only aviable on phones yet. Sure we can port them but they wont look good on a tablet. The best way is to optimize them after porting but i know it from sucukrom when i ported s6 systemui and launcher - optimizing was hard and boring like hell.
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Wow, nice to see there is already somebody working on this (thanks for your support). I think its best than to wait for the Tab S3 to release which should be in the next few weeks anyway.
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Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
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Geekbench 4 runs a completely different set of benchmarks than version 3. I just recently read a (I think) Anandtech writer rant about how not related Geekbench 3 scores are to the experience in practical usage compared to the (then still closed beta) Geekbench 4.
So you can't compare those scores at all.
I just run Geekbench 4 on my Tab S 8.4 with Lollipop (but using Iron Kernel - interactive governor - and f2fs data/cahce) and got this:
812 - Single Core
1849 - Multicore
Do this update upgraded the imprint sensor functions?
Now can I interact with other app or like before it is only to unlock the device?
This is the main feature I'm expecting from MM (plus Doze, obv)
skapez said:
Do this update upgraded the imprint sensor functions?
Now can I interact with other app or like before it is only to unlock the device?
This is the main feature I'm expecting from MM (plus Doze, obv)
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Yes, in MM apps can use the fingerprint API. This works with Google Play Store and Dropbox, to mention a few. My experience is with AOSP only, but I don't see why stock ROMs should be different.
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stopa10 said:
Yes, in MM apps can use the fingerprint API. This works with Google Play Store and Dropbox, to mention a few. My experience is with AOSP only, but I don't see why stock ROMs should be different.
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They didn't implemented the SDCard feature, they could also not implement this.
Before flash with odin the new FW I would like someone could assure me about this, because I will flash the new FW only to have this feature
Hi
so this feature is only limited to the new oneplus phones, and it was ported to all phones by an app called NotifyBuddy, the problem that it is laggy when unlocking the phone and takes a lot of battery
can someone please make it magisk module or something, I believe this way it well be more optimized correct me if I am wrong
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