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[Q] Android Lollipop Update

Today I contacted Motorola Help for an ETA on Latest Android OS update(lollipop) and I found out Its already been released in USA.. is it true

According to news on the Net, Lollipop roll out was put back, as there was a serious battery drain using Wifi.
http://www.zdnet.com/android-lollipop-rollout-delayed-due-to-battery-drain-bug-7000035508/
Not sure how accurate the ETA is as other sites today confirm issue is fixed. So the answer really is we will have it soonish.

ak88900 said:
Today I contacted Motorola Help for an ETA on Latest Android OS update(lollipop) and I found out Its already been released in USA.. is it true
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No. Lollipop hasn't been released on any phone, anywhere.

Seriously said:
No. Lollipop hasn't been released on any phone, anywhere.
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And yesterday, I thought the same thing.
Sheesh, Motorola killing it with the update speed: soak tests for both 2nd gen Moto G and 2nd Moto X, even before the Nexus 5.
So, are the soak tests US-only?

The Moto X 2014 seem to got it now
Hopefully we'll be next!

NekoNieves said:
The Moto X 2014 seem to got it now
Hopefully we'll be next!
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Wrong
Its soak test...
Only those who signed for soak test on moto x pure edition got it..
Official roll out still hasnt commenced...

doctor_droid said:
Wrong
Its soak test...
Only those who signed for soak test on moto x pure edition got it..
Official roll out still hasnt commenced...
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I know.

ikjadoon said:
So, are the soak tests US-only?
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Yup. Mostly US users. But if you are a ultimate feedbacker to Motorola then you may have received it no matter on which country you are. For that we need a carrier free (unlocked) Moto G. Carrier variants will follow shortly.

Really the M8 before the turbo?

My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.

sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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Ok.

sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/171490729222?lpid=82&chn=ps&varId=470546673204
Problem solved! Mods feel free to lock this as it is now resolved!

Perfectly content to wait for bug free 5.1

Depends on what is important to you in a phone. I am always amazed to see people itching for the next update, etc, but honestly, if you always want the latest "greatest" (Personally, I cannot stand all the white in Lollipop), perhaps you will be disappointed in the Turbo. Perhaps once Vzw "approves" (like they have any power in that equation really) the update, it will be flawless, but i wouldnt hold my breath. As far as HTC goes, I can say I have never used an HTC phone with the same signal quality as its Moto counterpart. (Moto knows antennae/signal like no other) Also, If you read up on the Moto Maxx Lollipop update, it isn't too great. @adrenalyne can attest to that. Honestly, the real reason to be upset with a Turbo is the lack of bootloader unlock, as that would motivate Cyanogenmod to create a base that would translate to buttloads of Lollipop roms with the capability to return to stock KK Moto, am option you will not have once it updates as the keys do not allow reverting. Then, you would have the capability to experience it, realize it is not all its cracked up to be yet, and go happily back to where you are now. I know I went back to OSE KK happily from the best motox/droid ultra/maxx lollipop roms. the x8 architechture makes these newer moto phones amazing,(notice how Active Display does not kill your battery) but also has been the reason Lollipop has taken this long for those (msm8960dt) phones. Its hard to be patient, but I assure you, you aren't missing too much. and once you get lollipop, you will be stuck with it, for better or for worse.

zathus said:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/171490729222?lpid=82&chn=ps&varId=470546673204
Problem solved! Mods feel free to lock this as it is now resolved!
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Actually, no, that's a GSM phone. If they're using the Turbo, they're likely on Verizon.

Not Motos fault
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Ok.
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You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available

renegadeone8 said:
You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available
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You got all that about me from word eh?
I am impressed!

Verizon is not necessarily to blame. They have approved update for the HTC and Samsung phones. I don't know why we haven't received the update. It seems people that have it aren't all that impressed and some are unhappy. Droid-Life days lollipop is a buggy mess. But I don't think we can blindly blame Verizon since they have approved it for other phones. That said... Don't buy a phone anticipating an update.
Sent from my Droid Turbo using Tapatalk

The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!

ahaynes42 said:
The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!
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All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080

bigv5150 said:
All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
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The "it's still buggy" argument seems to be the general response when people like me are getting impatient. And while that does hold some truth, I think 5.0.2 has fixed most of the major issues. I'm running CM12 based on 5.0.2 on my Galaxy S4 and my Asus Tablet, and they both are running well now. There were some issues when the nightlies first came out, but 5.0.2 seems to be pretty stable now depending on what hardware you have.

https://plus.google.com/101651363550089117949/posts/UgxKuJxEEgo
Maybe good news? 5.1 for turbo? Maybe we get when nexus 6 is for sale at vzw?
I realize it could be untrue since it didn't come directly from moto or Verizon but interesting nonetheless.

Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.

draco259 said:
Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.
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Or you can believe an advertised feature of the device being "Upgradeable to Lollipop" as listed in the original press release for the Droid Turbo. (link) Moral of the story for me is not to trust OEMs when they make upgrade promises. Sure they didn't give a specific timeframe when they promised Lollipop for the Turbo, but 4+ months after official release of source code is a joke.

There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.

Character Zero said:
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Galaxy S5.

Character Zero said:
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Are you sure? I think you are wrong.
Here's the Advanced Calling list for Verizon. LG G3 is on the list and several users got Lollipop from Verizon.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Several LG G3 users since February 23 have reported Lollipop update being available to them. NO, they were not part of soak test.
Verizon’s LG G3 Reported To Be In The Process of Getting Android 5.0.1 Lollipop Update
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ss-getting-android-5-0-1-lollipop-update.html
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Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.

Character Zero said:
Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.
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I'm not sure it is available for everyone. On further research may be a very slow rollout. But some people are getting it...

MOTO X 2014, Android 5.1 Update

Was just searching the net for past 2 days.... as soon as android 5.1 was released, there is not even a single news/ Rumors about moto x and android 5.1, So i figured
Lets Start a new thread, and something or the other is bound to come up!, got my android L update for MOTO X european version from right here so i figured lets start here.
if anyone has any information let us hear it
from what i found, there's some news on moto g running android 5.1, moto x 2013 being considered.
does that mean, we have lost the top priority :fingers-crossed:
i seem so eager coz this 5.1 is REALLY stable, i have got a nexus 6, just updated it... its smoother, some pesky bugs before, nothing now.
~~~~my moto x is suffering from bluetooth audio stuttering , among other bugs.

Did you see any change in camera quality on your Nexus6?
I mean do you think the new 5.1 will make the MotoX able to shoot in RAW and Camera-2 API will now be supported? Because that is the biggest thing which needs improvement in MotoX, and performance boost will be a boon, rest it seems stable on 5.0 as well.

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Did you see any change in camera quality on your Nexus6?
I mean do you think the new 5.1 will make the MotoX able to shoot in RAW and Camera-2 API will now be supported? Because that is the biggest thing which needs improvement in MotoX, and performance boost will be a boon, rest it seems stable on 5.0 as well.
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Interesting, i can check it out , if someone can guide me how to .
P.s. the camera sensor itself is older version so don't expect it to be too good, samsung, oneplus one , oppo , nexus 6 all high end devices in latter 2014 use IMX 214 or IMX 240.. which are both 2014 released sensors ... On the other hand MOTO X uses IMX 135, which is released on JANUARY 2013, 2 years old now, Motorola has a reputation for increasing their, profits by using atleast one old part in their fabulous devices (HINT: moto 360, ti processor is sooo old, its parent company stopped supporting it and it drains battery too, could have easily used snapdragon400 but.... moto)

Moto X Pure Edition ( XT1095)
Well I'm searching daily for Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update but I'm not able to find anything. I had Nexus 6 I sold one week before 5.1 update, but I've tried it on my brothers Nexus 5 and its was really fast, especially the dialer app feels snappy now(but that was factory reset so not confident about that yet)..
Would love to hear more about Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update

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Well I'm searching daily for Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update but I'm not able to find anything. I had Nexus 6 I sold one week before 5.1 update, but I've tried it on my brothers Nexus 5 and its was really fast, especially the dialer app feels snappy now(but that was factory reset so not confident about that yet)..
Would love to hear more about Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update
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Motorola contacted people about a week ago about participating in a soak test for the Pure Edition. So far the update hasn't rolled out to anyone.
See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/xt1095-pure-edition-5-0-5-0-2-t3037580

Just leaving this message here, if anyone stumbles upon this question....
how to update XT1092 to android 5.1
as now android 5.1 is released for XT1095, and in future too XT1095 will be the first to receive any updates.... this is what my plan is.
I am Converting My XT1092 to XT1095 and then flashing the modem (google it).
TADA! thats it, that simple.

5.1 hasn't been released for any Moto X yet

scoupdogg said:
Just leaving this message here, if anyone stumbles upon this question....
how to update XT1092 to android 5.1
as now android 5.1 is released for XT1095, and in future too XT1095 will be the first to receive any updates.... this is what my plan is.
I am Converting My XT1092 to XT1095 and then flashing the modem (google it).
TADA! thats it, that simple.
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chrisrozon said:
5.1 hasn't been released for any Moto X yet
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As @chrisrozon says, there is no oficial release out yet of 5.1 for any victara (xt1095, xt1097, xt1092, etc). What is "out there" is a leaked soak test OTA. It's working but clearly unfinished; it has some serious battery draining wakelocks for some people.
Anyway, as soon as 5.1 is officially released (or after a few days if you're cautious), most people with non pure versions will be able to flash it and use it without reflashing original modem, since the new baseband of the xt1095 has been modified to work internationally. At least in latinamerica many of us could use the 5.1 soak with no baseband modification.
So if you're planning to convert your moto x to pure edition, i advice to do it once the 5.1 official release is out.
Cheers!
Manuel.

Droid Turbo Service Issues on CM12.1 Snapshot 1/27/16

I seem to be having issues where my service does not seem to be as strong on CM12.1 compared to the stock ROM. Any idea on a fix for this?

IMHO, common problem on almost every device with CM. The difference with stock is noticable but not huge. (Saw it on xt912, xt926, xt1080 etc.)

It is unfortunate as this issue is the difference between getting LTE and 3g. Back to stock I guess...

I get LTE just fine
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nubia11 said:
I get LTE just fine.
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Same here. To the op: what carrier do you have? Have you flashed the appropriate radio/BL from the CM12.1 quark thread? It's in the op there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64074102

I tried everything... Finally just installed freeks ROM... Not much dev in turbo huh?

Not overly much, but then again my old phone was a Casio Commando 4G... You want moribund development try those forums. Yikes!
Also keep in mind that the Moto Maxx XT1225 forum is very helpful as well, being that it's the basically the same phone. If the answers aren't here, they are likely there.
And fwiw I haven't had any problems be it with computerfreek, cm, mokee, or resurrection. I suspect there's more than a few of us lurking about without issues as well. So I figure the devs are doing pretty good. Then again, coming from Casio-land I instinctively expect very little. Having at least 4 roms with varying degrees of activity is awesome as far as I'm concerned.

MazinDLX said:
I tried everything... Finally just installed freeks ROM... Not much dev in turbo huh?
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You just aren't looking in the right place. All the Quarks have the same hardware, and except for the Droid Turbo they all had unlock-able bootloaders from the very beginning via Motorola websitie. So, there's tons of development.
For almost a year the Quarks were all in this forum. But because the Droid Turbo was locked down (per orders from Verizon), the Droid Turbo people got mad because they saw all this neat dev stuff they couldn't get. So, they petitioned XDA mods to split the forum into the "dead" Droid Turbo dev forum and the active rest-of-the-Quarks forum.
The forum split happened in September 2015...
Then, guess what? About two months later, exploit was found to unlock the Droid Turbo bootloaders! So, now all the Droid Turbo users who want custom ROMs, custom kernels, etc, have to trek over to the rest-of-the-Quarks forum -- aka Moto Maxx forum, but it's also the Moto Turbo forum. Yeah, there's TWO Quarks called Turbo.
After the Droid Turbo bootloader unlock, the CM dev started a CM thread over here --but it's the SAME ROM as in the Moto Maxx forum, and most people (even Droid Turbo users) just post over there.
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The only difference in all the Quarks ("international" Moto Maxx XT1225, Moto Turbo XT1225, U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, Droid Turbo XT1254) are the radios. (In fact the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 and Droid Turbo XT1254 are identical in every way, including the radios! Even the same FCC ID.)
The DEVICE called the Droid Turbo was NEVER exclusive to Verizon. The exact same phone is/was sold by U.S regional CDMA/LTE carriers as the U.S . Moto Maxx. Motorola even used the "Turbo" name again for another Quark. Only the "Droid" name was exclusive, because Verizon licenses that name from LucasArts. So, yeah you can only buy a "Droid Turbo" from Verizon, but you can buy the EXACT SAME PHONE (with the same bands) from another carrier in the U.S. Put a Verizon SIM card into a U.S. Moto Maxx and it runs on Verizon just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6...
It would be like Samsung calling their Galaxy S6 the "S6", everywhere but Verizon. For Verizon, it would be called the "Yabba Dabba Do" phone. And Verizon puts out press releases: The "Yabba Dabba Do" phone is EXCLUSIVE TO VERIZON! It's still just a Galaxy S6! Oh, but the Verizon version would have a locked-down bootloader...
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Only the Quark radios are different. Everything else is identical, which is why all these Quark ROMs below work on all the Quarks -- including the Droid Turbo XT1254 (with unlocked bootloader):
CM12.1 ( @Skrilax_CZ dev)
Resurrection Remix ( @baybutcher27 dev)
Mokee (AOSP ROM, @baybutcher27 dev)
Xperia Z5G
as well as custom kernel BHB27 ( @baybutcher27 dev).
Droid Turbo owners are using all of these above. But except for the CM dev, the devs aren't posting duplicate threads over here in the Droid Turbo forum. You have to go over to the Moto Maxx forum to participate.

ChazzMatt said:
You just aren't looking in the right place. All the Quarks have the same hardware, and except for the Droid Turbo they all had unlock-able bootloaders from the very beginning via Motorola websitie. So, there's tons of development.
For almost a year the Quarks were all in this forum. But because the Droid Turbo was locked down, Droid Turbo people got mad because they saw stuff all this neat stuff they couldn't get. So, they petitioned XDA mods to split the forum into the "dead" Droid Turbo dev forum and the active rest-of-the-Quarks fourm.
The forum split happened in September 2015...
Then, guess what? About two months later, exploit was found to unlock the Droid Turbo bootloaders! So, now all the Droid Turbo users who want custom ROMs, custom kernels, etc, have to trek over to the rest-of-the-Quarks forum -- aka Moto Maxx forum, but it's also the Moto Turbo forum. Yeah, there's TWO Quarks called Turbo.
After the Droid Turbo bootloader unlock, the CM dev started a CM thread over here --but it's the SAME ROM as in the Moto Maxx forum, and most people (even Droid Turbo users) just post over there.
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The only difference in all the Quarks ("international" Moto Maxx XT1225, Moto Turbo XT1225, U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, Droid Turbo XT1254) are the radios. (In fact the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 and Droid Turbo XT1254 are identical in every way, including the radios! Even the same FCC ID.)
The DEVICE called the Droid Turbo was NEVER exclusive to Verizon. The exact same phone is/was sold by U.S regional CDMA/LTE carriers as the U.S . Moto Maxx. Motorola even used the "Turbo" name again for another Quark. Only the "Droid" name was exclusive, because Verizon licenses that name from LucasArts. So, yeah you can only buy a "Droid Turbo" from Verizon, but you can buy the EXACT SAME PHONE (with the same bands) from another carrier in the U.S. Put a Verizon SIM card into a U.S. Moto Maxx and it runs on Verizon just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6...
It would be like Samsung calling their Galaxy S6 the "S6", everywhere but Verizon. For Verizon, it would be called the "Yabba Dabba Do" phone. And Verizon puts out press releases: The "Yabba Dabba Do" phone is EXCLUSIVE TO VERIZON! It's still just a Galaxy S6! Oh, but the Verizon version would have a locked-down bootloader...
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Only the Quark radios are different. Everything else is identical, which is why all these Quark ROMs below work on all the Quarks -- including the Droid Turbo XT1254 (with unlocked bootloader):
CM12.1 ( @Skrilax_CZ dev)
Resurrection Remix ( @baybutcher27 dev)
Mokee (AOSP ROM, @baybutcher27 dev)
Xperia Z5G
as well as custom kernel BHB27 ( @baybutcher27 dev).
Droid Turbo owners are using all of these above. But except for the CM dev, the devs aren't posting duplicate threads over here in the Droid Turbo forum. You have to go over to the Moto Maxx forum to participate.
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Thanks for explaining this in such detail. A lot of people are probably surprised to know this. It's been going on for many generations of the Android phone,and can get confusing when forums start splitting up. Nice detail!!
Sent from my DROID Turbo using Tapatalk

where are the customizable roms?

With previous phones there's always been custom roms released that bring customizing of pretty much everything. Loads of settings.. Status bar for instance, change the front, color, clock location etc.
Why is there none for the turbo, is it not possible?

I assume you have the DROID Turbo XT1254?
Is your bootloader unlocked? Are you rooted? If so...
List here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/roms-t3347701
Location here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx
The Quark forums (XT1254 Droid Turbo/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx/XT1225 Moto Maxx/XT1225 Moto Turbo) were split last September 2015 into two forums because locked-down Droid Turbo XT1254 owners didn't want to see any dev work for the booloader unlocked Quarks (Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo -- YES, there's another Quark called "Turbo") in their forum.
So, due to XT1254 user requests XDA mods physically removed all the custom ROMs, kernels, etc for the bootloader unlocked Quarks and transferred them to another forum, called the "Moto Maxx" forum.
Ironically, less than two months later, in November 2015 Sunshine exploit unlocked the Droid Turbo bootloader (for SUTL-44). Suddenly Droid Turbo users WANTED all this dev work... but it's mostly still posted over in the OTHER Quark forum.
The Quark CM dev graciously replicated CM threads back over here even after being thrown out, but still most people go over there to discuss.
Some XT1254 users said they have now requested the forums be joined again, but I think it's low on the list of XDA mod priorities. Especially now that the recent OTA (SUTL-49) has locked out Sunshine procrastinators, less and less Droid Turbo XT1254 owners can participate.

Ahh that explains it. Thank you very much for the explanation and links. Yes I'm unlocked, rooted and running cm for now.