My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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Ok.
sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/171490729222?lpid=82&chn=ps&varId=470546673204
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Perfectly content to wait for bug free 5.1
Depends on what is important to you in a phone. I am always amazed to see people itching for the next update, etc, but honestly, if you always want the latest "greatest" (Personally, I cannot stand all the white in Lollipop), perhaps you will be disappointed in the Turbo. Perhaps once Vzw "approves" (like they have any power in that equation really) the update, it will be flawless, but i wouldnt hold my breath. As far as HTC goes, I can say I have never used an HTC phone with the same signal quality as its Moto counterpart. (Moto knows antennae/signal like no other) Also, If you read up on the Moto Maxx Lollipop update, it isn't too great. @adrenalyne can attest to that. Honestly, the real reason to be upset with a Turbo is the lack of bootloader unlock, as that would motivate Cyanogenmod to create a base that would translate to buttloads of Lollipop roms with the capability to return to stock KK Moto, am option you will not have once it updates as the keys do not allow reverting. Then, you would have the capability to experience it, realize it is not all its cracked up to be yet, and go happily back to where you are now. I know I went back to OSE KK happily from the best motox/droid ultra/maxx lollipop roms. the x8 architechture makes these newer moto phones amazing,(notice how Active Display does not kill your battery) but also has been the reason Lollipop has taken this long for those (msm8960dt) phones. Its hard to be patient, but I assure you, you aren't missing too much. and once you get lollipop, you will be stuck with it, for better or for worse.
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Actually, no, that's a GSM phone. If they're using the Turbo, they're likely on Verizon.
Not Motos fault
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You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available
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You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available
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You got all that about me from word eh?
I am impressed!
Verizon is not necessarily to blame. They have approved update for the HTC and Samsung phones. I don't know why we haven't received the update. It seems people that have it aren't all that impressed and some are unhappy. Droid-Life days lollipop is a buggy mess. But I don't think we can blindly blame Verizon since they have approved it for other phones. That said... Don't buy a phone anticipating an update.
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The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!
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The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!
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All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
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All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
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The "it's still buggy" argument seems to be the general response when people like me are getting impatient. And while that does hold some truth, I think 5.0.2 has fixed most of the major issues. I'm running CM12 based on 5.0.2 on my Galaxy S4 and my Asus Tablet, and they both are running well now. There were some issues when the nightlies first came out, but 5.0.2 seems to be pretty stable now depending on what hardware you have.
https://plus.google.com/101651363550089117949/posts/UgxKuJxEEgo
Maybe good news? 5.1 for turbo? Maybe we get when nexus 6 is for sale at vzw?
I realize it could be untrue since it didn't come directly from moto or Verizon but interesting nonetheless.
Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.
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Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.
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Or you can believe an advertised feature of the device being "Upgradeable to Lollipop" as listed in the original press release for the Droid Turbo. (link) Moral of the story for me is not to trust OEMs when they make upgrade promises. Sure they didn't give a specific timeframe when they promised Lollipop for the Turbo, but 4+ months after official release of source code is a joke.
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Galaxy S5.
Character Zero said:
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Are you sure? I think you are wrong.
Here's the Advanced Calling list for Verizon. LG G3 is on the list and several users got Lollipop from Verizon.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Several LG G3 users since February 23 have reported Lollipop update being available to them. NO, they were not part of soak test.
Verizon’s LG G3 Reported To Be In The Process of Getting Android 5.0.1 Lollipop Update
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ss-getting-android-5-0-1-lollipop-update.html
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Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.
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Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.
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I'm not sure it is available for everyone. On further research may be a very slow rollout. But some people are getting it...
Related
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/20/froyo-motorola-milestone-undecided
And the hits just keep on hitting for Motorola Android handset owners. In a post on the Motorola Owners forum, Moto's Eurpean Marketing Director James King makes the following statement about the status of the Milestone getting Froyo in the near future:
Next European Milestone and 2.2 (Froyo). I have expressed over the last few days that the decision is pending. The team here has been collating key pieces of information and views from this community in the last month and providing input to relevant teams in Motorola so they are aware. I am pushing for that decision to be made as quickly as possible, and we can then all go from there. Some others ask why the decisions on upgrades take so long, and why does implementation then take much longer still. What I can say and have stated recently is that upgrades are not a walk in the park.
Sure there are short cuts that people can take, but when you have to integrate software to a specific hardware, then test it and integrate with third party applications, let alone any innovation from ourselves, plus then get approvals to make this all official and safe… its is a big undertaking that requires planning and resource and third party coordination to see this all through. As I say, once we have decision, we will inform. JK
So for those of you who bought the device because it was advertised as a "Flash-ready" device, it seems your wait is going to be an extended one. From this statement, it does not even look like Motorola has even begun development on an upgrade package.
This statement highlights the need for Google to develop an outstanding UI with Gingerbread, so that handset makers won't need to put non-vanilla Android on their units. Updates to phones with Motoblur are delayed because of the issues stated above and along with that is the bottom line, upgrades cost the handset maker money, money on which they will not see a return.
For you Milestone owners, you have our sympathy, it seems like Motorola is making some missteps lately with their handsets, promising one thing but delivering another. I hope that you do get your Froyo update in the near future. More info as we get it.
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i think this is the last motorola phone for me..
Harunjo -
You're not alone. Follow "Return your Milestone" on Facebook, or "First official info: No 2.2 for Milestone?" & "Froyo 2.2 - Milestone & Flash" on Moto Owners' Support Forum.
What the hell is this crap? The Droid is getting 2.2, of course we should be getting it as well.
Unless..
I really REALLY hope they aren't thinking of not updating the Milestone to 2.2.
I mean, why would they not want to update the Milestone? The Droid is going to get 2.2, why not us? Not only do they trap us with their locked bootloader, but they want to keep us with an old firmware version?
Another point: Even if we do get 2.2, why not be open with us? Just after Froyo's announcement at Google I/O, HTC comes out and declares which of their phones will get a 2.2 update. Not to mention their devices do not have a locked bootloader.
What exactly do they stand to lose if they became open with the community and say: "We are currently working on an Android 2.2 update for the Motorola Milestone."
This was my first phone from Motorola, but it is definitely going to be my LAST one.
If they fail to deliver Froyo they will face legal action...they advertised this phone as Flash 10.1 compatible, it says it right on my box!
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they advertised this phone as Flash 10.1 compatible, it says it right on my box!
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Yeah, no. "Flash 10.1 ready" != whatever you think it means.
now they are really dumb
I hope certainly they will bring out this update, It's a good device with great potential, it would be dump if motorola doesn't update this one. They will lose a lot of customers.
its a shame, no other phone out in the market right now that is a slider qwerty and this sleek and thin.
they announce it to get us all hyped up.. then they release it.. with a catch..
motorola decides to screw around with its devoted customers. they don't realize how much money they can make from the milestone. open it up or release froyo.. or both! sigh
i wonder what the top executives of the company was thinking..
If we don't get an official Android 2.2 ROM from Motorola, let's make a community-branded Motorola Android 2.2 Custom ROM and send them the ROM saying "Here's what you should have made, but you failed to deliver". Give 'em some Deja Vu.
Still, it's the same situation like the HTC Tattoo - No 2.2 Love. Seriously, why do you want 2.2 for? It's just like an add-on to Android 2.1... I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Why not take the leaked Android 2.2 ROM for a spin?
Because all the speed and the better baterry managment and all the goodies anyway,are not in the rom itself but in the kernel.
Kernel cannot be changed if there is a locked bootloader.
So we may have an almost working froyo port,but without the new kernel,it doesnt do all it is capable of.
So,we damn need an oficial froyo!!!! ::
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If we don't get an official Android 2.2 ROM from Motorola, let's make a community-branded Motorola Android 2.2 Custom ROM and send them the ROM saying "Here's what you should have made, but you failed to deliver". Give 'em some Deja Vu.
Still, it's the same situation like the HTC Tattoo - No 2.2 Love. Seriously, why do you want 2.2 for? It's just like an add-on to Android 2.1... I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Why not take the leaked Android 2.2 ROM for a spin?
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that would be funny and send them a few pics of the milestone running it
confirmed that 2.2 is coming to the Droid by Motorola surely that means it is coming to the Milestone too:-
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/30001
Nothing is sure....
For example Droid's bootloader is unlocked, Milestone's is locked...
As we have seen Motorola doesn't treat the same to their twins brothers (Droid and Milestone), giving to American users more than they are giving to Europeans
So if they don't give us an official report about froyo, nothing is sure...
Milestone is like a bastard child of motorola, occasionally if moto is in a good mood they might give some TLC. But all the attention is given to the real child droid, droid x.
Milestone was like an accident to them.... now with too many kids to support they decided to ignore the bastard child.....
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Milestone is like a bastard child of motorola, occasionally if moto is in a good mood they might give some TLC. But all the attention is given to the real child droid, droid x.
Milestone was like an accident to them.... now with too many kids to support they decided to ignore the bastard child.....
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hahahahaha that was funny man, but yep motorola seems to dont care about the milestone, they give the best things to the droid =(
the fact is:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
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If I remember correctly, milestone got 2.1 earlier than droid and now droid gonna get 2.2 much earlier than milestone. Perhaps there is a reason for that considering the fact that droid was released only for american market thus less customizations and localizations compared to the milestone which was released in several parts of the globe, requiring more changes and tests. Even now they are still rolling out the 2.1 update, my guess, we won't see milestone getting 2.2 not until q4, with hope that they do work on the update.
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I guess we won't have a problem if motorola said that 2.2 is coming to milestone and they can't confirm the date. But the fact is that they now said that its not confirm that its even coming. I guess thats what people are making a fuss about and not to mention the complete silence treatment is not helping.
I could really see Moto trying to start moving to using Android subversions as a selling point.
Oh, that phone's old, it has Android 2.2 - better buy a new phone that has 3.0
Requires no work on their part (except locking the bootloader) and they force users into buying new handsets to get software features. Look at all the handsets on the market- they're basically all the same hardware wise: 3.something inch screen, 1Ghz processor, 512ish RAM. Only the OS distinguishes this flood of phones.
Of course I'm talking about your non-power users here.
And as to the "why froyo?" post earlier: because the sholes_2.31 kernel (current UK rom) is buggy as hell and only a new kernel will fix those bugs, like not being able to wake itself up to ring an alarm...
The 2.36 update will solve that.
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Hey guys.
Motorola has confirmed that the DROID3 will not be receiving official ICS.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Look under the USA section and it lists the DROID3 under remaining on Android 2.3.
Place your "DAMN IT!!!" comments here.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2
I'll post here again what I posted in the general section...
What happened to the Kexec port? One core at 1.2 would be a fair trade for a new kernel IMO.
I tried the ics build that overclocked to 1.2 and the speed was nice but it used the gummy build which in my opinion is eww..they should have used the straight cm9 or preferably aokp nightly and it would have been a better mod..I think we all knew in the back of our minds even thought we didn't want to believe it d3 would never officially see ics..all the d3 ever was is an quickrelease to generate cashflow to help fund the finishing for the d4, which in my opinion should have waited til d5 lol sadly I don't think we will see a d5 as a lot. Of the makers move away from a physical keyboard.. and due to what's involved I don't believe we will ever see a fully working,hw codec working ics build
Oh and DAMB IT!!!!!
Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for sharing.
And now...
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Lmao..omg..this one rings true...
Then give us a way to unlock the bootloader. Period.
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Then give us a way to unlock the bootloader. Period.
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Didn't you hear its not moto its verizon lol right...
They will unlock it if we find an alternative way for them to rape us
I'm not a fan of ICS to be honest, but we should have the option of royally screwing up our phones at our descretion. If Verizon were to unlock us it would just bring them more full price replacement phone sales as we brick.
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They can rape me more if they unlock bootloaders. That at least be using lube..
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Idk how u guys got onto raping... nor do I want to. Lmfao.
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droidian1441 said:
Idk how u guys got onto raping... nor do I want to. Lmfao.
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You started it lol
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That's how I feel ... time to rant on twitter... or facebook
We have to get the unlocked boot loader and source since they are not doing it for us any more... Motorola please . Consider releasing those.. give us our right to update our phone by ourselves
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That was clear since D4 was made available. They must be nuts to release software upgrade for D3 and cannibalize D4 sales.
Time to move on I guess.
leobg said:
That was clear since D4 was made available. They must be nuts to release software upgrade for D3 and cannibalize D4 sales.
Time to move on I guess.
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They can however release ICS one D4 sales have gone down a bit etc.
There's hope on the horizon
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They can however release ICS one D4 sales have gone down a bit etc.
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This came through last night maybe there is still hope, I don't buy the fact of Google leaving motorola separate that would just be bad business.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57437738-94/china-clears-google-motorola-merger-deal-to-close-within-days/
leobg said:
That was clear since D4 was made available. They must be nuts to release software upgrade for D3 and cannibalize D4 sales.
Time to move on I guess.
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I don't really think upgrading the D3 would cut too deeply into D4 sales, especially if they released ICS for us after they did for the D4. The D4 is a 4G phone, so anyone who wants 4G would go for a D4 over a D3. The D4 is also newer, so anyone looking to upgrade that's a tech freak who needs the latest and greatest hardware would go for it (though they might in reality go for other phones, we'll just assume they're limited to the D3 and D4 here ). They're not going to be making many D4 sales off of current D3 users because we're still on contract for a good deal of time (assuming we all upgraded and thus renewed our contracts when we got our D3. I know this doesn't apply to everyone), and buying an unsubsidized phone is crazy. By the time we're eligible for an upgrade, they'll have come out with an even better phone than the D4 and we'll be going after that, and that would be what they want. If they're afraid of losing people who want a cheaper phone that's still good, well, I think anyone tight on budget would give up a few features and go for the D3 anyways, or maybe even a cheaper phone, so they're not really losing anything there. Our phone is still relatively new, so there's no reason that we shouldn't be getting an ICS upgrade other than Moto devs being lazy and Verizon having an unfounded fear of a loss of sales on a newer phone.
GO GO Samsung !!!
Thats why so many people are switching to Samsung ! Its simple, Samsung bootloaders are unlocked or extremely easy to unlock.
Can you blame them?
D3 was really a mistake. It is D4 that Motorola should have released first place. I guess that's why they released it so soon after D3 - just to address all those shortcomings people bashed the phone for.
And they are trying to put it to the grave now. I wish I didn't waste money on mine, but oh well...
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D3 was really a mistake. It is D4 that Motorola should have released first place. I guess that's why they released it so soon after D3 - just to address all those shortcomings people bashed the phone for.
And they are trying to put it to the grave now. I wish I didn't waste money on mine, but oh well...
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What? What shortcomings? The only one I can think off is 1GB RAM. The only real shortcoming is the screen and they didn't upgrade that on the droid 4. I just saw the HTC one X this weekend and my droid 3 looks like its 3 years old. Kinda like when you use see your old phones screen after you get a new one after 2 year contract.
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What? What shortcomings? The only one I can think off is 1GB RAM. The only real shortcoming is the screen and they didn't upgrade that on the droid 4. I just saw the HTC one X this weekend and my droid 3 looks like its 3 years old. Kinda like when you use see your old phones screen after you get a new one after 2 year contract.
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RAM and lack of much anticipated at the time LTE radio. They didn't have better screen at the time with acceptable battery drain and price. I suspect latter is the reason D4 didn't get Razr's screen.
Hey guys is there anybody out there that's working or could work on Google's pure 4.4.4 version of KitKat for our note 4? There are a lot of rooted apps & games that are not supported in 5.0 lollipop & I also want to enjoy my 3GB of ram without installing a custom Samsung based rom that takes up almost 2 gigs of it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.
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Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.
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Same here I need a cm11 or a 4.4.4 rom that's cm11 based
I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one
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I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one
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Yeah that's true but I don't know any developers on here lol plus I don't know any that's willing to work on one knowing everybody is going crazy about the 5.0 lollipop update
I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly
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I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly
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Yeah that's sadly true. But it won't hurt to ask.....even tho I might 99 replies in "no" but I might get one yes & hopefully that matters
Lollipop, Nexus 6, Experia 3Z
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I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......
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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......
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I be honest I will be staying on nk4 when lollipop drops.
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Yeah...that was the gist of what I wrote. LOL
The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.
Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol
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The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.
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It beyond me why they would make a phone without an SD card slot. Wtf.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
Honestly, i wouldnt mind a CM11 rom. I really loved the stock 4.4.4 that came the with Nexus 5, smooth and bare.
But another point is, development doesnt go backwards (usually, anyway).
I would love it, but it wont be done .
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@slayher wink wink.
Pay the man, maybe he'll port.
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Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol
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Thank you. Any help is appreciated
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Lmao, I'm stealing that btw
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T-Mobile just keeps dropping the ball with the LG-G4.
After continually blaming LG for "The lack of a Marshmallow (6.0) update" and with LG saying it's in T-Mobiles hands. LG has rolled out a 2nd 6.0 update to Poland.
Way to go T-Slow-mobile!
fishman0919 said:
T-Mobile just keeps dropping the ball with the LG-G4.
After continually blaming LG for "The lack of a Marshmallow (6.0) update" and with LG saying it's in T-Mobiles hands. LG has rolled out a 2nd 6.0 update to Poland.
Way to go T-Slow-mobile!
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For some reason Poland always gets the updates first. When I had the SGS5, Poland saw 2 5.0 updates first before we did. I guess they are letting them work out all the bugs
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T-Mobile just keeps dropping the ball with the LG-G4.
After continually blaming LG for "The lack of a Marshmallow (6.0) update" and with LG saying it's in T-Mobiles hands. LG has rolled out a 2nd 6.0 update to Poland.
Way to go T-Slow-mobile!
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Most rumors i hear say that 6.0 is causing them to have to revamp wifi calling to work with the new system...from what i know of it wifi calling is what typically causes slow updates from tmo...also they are not blaming lg...they have had the update from lg the same amount of time everyone else has but are taking a long time to integrate their changes...it has been showing that it's in testing for months now on their site
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Most rumors i hear say that 6.0 is causing them to have to revamp wifi calling to work with the new system...from what i know of it wifi calling is what typically causes slow updates from tmo...also they are not blaming lg...they have had the update from lg the same amount of time everyone else has but are taking a long time to integrate their changes...it has been showing that it's in testing for months now on their site
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I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case, too. Wife has a Nexus 5X and the Wifi calling implementation in that phone has issues with SMS when Wifi calling is enabled.
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For some reason Poland always gets the updates first. When I had the SGS5, Poland saw 2 5.0 updates first before we did. I guess they are letting them work out all the bugs
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I believe LG's research center is in Poland. That seems to make sense to research nearby areas than further away places in case things go bad. Easier to put out fires next to you than a mile away with the water bucket.
Just be happy tmobile doesn't roll out updates like sprint does. I'm a service and repair technician for sprint. I've seen so many G4's hardware fail when updating to M. Be appreciative to the fact that tmobile wants to make sure their update is a stable improvement and not a buggy disaster. Because sprint has a lot of that going on. Lol
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They should release a version without WiFi calling. I don't even use that crap.
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They should release a version without WiFi calling. I don't even use that crap.
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Many of us do...so be patient...i live in a dead zone for all carriers and rely on wifi calling...it would be a total disservice to many users to update without wifi calling
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Many of us do...so be patient...i live in a dead zone for all carriers and rely on wifi calling...it would be a total disservice to many users to update without wifi calling
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I'm quite patient. Just saying many of us don't use WiFi calling. It wouldnt be much trouble to release without it then patch in later.
Google Voice as SMS > ANY Wi-Fi calling.
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T-Mobile just keeps dropping the ball with the LG-G4.
After continually blaming LG for "The lack of a Marshmallow (6.0) update" and with LG saying it's in T-Mobiles hands. LG has rolled out a 2nd 6.0 update to Poland.
Way to go T-Slow-mobile!
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So...you are complaining that a US carrier has not updated their firmware to what somewhere in Europe has in spite of it being a well known fact that US carrier branded phones usually take months longer to update than the unbranded phones in other parts of the world? This is something that is well known since the beginning of Android. The process goes: The pure google code is released, the manufacturer adapts it to their devices, it gets released to unbranded phones, it is also sent to branded carriers to add all of their crap to it, then it is sent back and forth between the manufacturer and carrier until it works flawlessly including updating and converting all data, including carrier bloat in an OTA package. This is then tested on a predetermined batch of test phones. Then when the carrier is happy with the OTA, then they decide when is the best time to release it and request time on Google servers to do so. It is also kind of selfish to say "Just give me the version without wifi calling since I don't use it anyway" without thinking of the million tech calls and posts they get about wifi calling not working. Also do not believe anyone you talk to in any customer service of LG or T-Mobile...they do not know what is going on and are told what to say. I could tell you some stories of some of the stupid answers I have seen from customer service reps. It actually looks like AT&T and Verizon are in the same boat as you guys...no MM yet.
If you or anyone are the type of person that needs the latest software that Google spits out and like being a beta tester for them, then why have you not purchased one of the Nexus devices with immediate updates and no carrier branding or bloat? They work great on T-Mobile and band 12. I went Nexus 6P in Sprint myself and will never go back to a branded phone.
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Just be happy tmobile doesn't roll out updates like sprint does. I'm a service and repair technician for sprint. I've seen so many G4's hardware fail when updating to M. Be appreciative to the fact that tmobile wants to make sure their update is a stable improvement and not a buggy disaster. Because sprint has a lot of that going on. Lol
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The hardware failure has nothing to do with software updating. LG has released a statement recognizing that there is a problem with manufacturing; they blame a loose component connection.
As for the T-Mobile testing status: it has not changed from "Manufacturer Development" yet. T-Mobile is not officially conducting tests on the update yet.
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So...you are complaining that a US carrier has not updated their firmware to what somewhere in Europe has in spite of it being a well known fact that US carrier branded phones usually take months longer to update than the unbranded phones in other parts of the world? This is something that is well known since the beginning of Android. The process goes: The pure google code is released, the manufacturer adapts it to their devices, it gets released to unbranded phones, it is also sent to branded carriers to add all of their crap to it, then it is sent back and forth between the manufacturer and carrier until it works flawlessly including updating and converting all data, including carrier bloat in an OTA package. This is then tested on a predetermined batch of test phones. Then when the carrier is happy with the OTA, then they decide when is the best time to release it and request time on Google servers to do so. It is also kind of selfish to say "Just give me the version without wifi calling since I don't use it anyway" without thinking of the million tech calls and posts they get about wifi calling not working. Also do not believe anyone you talk to in any customer service of LG or T-Mobile...they do not know what is going on and are told what to say. I could tell you some stories of some of the stupid answers I have seen from customer service reps. It actually looks like AT&T and Verizon are in the same boat as you guys...no MM yet.
If you or anyone are the type of person that needs the latest software that Google spits out and like being a beta tester for them, then why have you not purchased one of the Nexus devices with immediate updates and no carrier branding or bloat? They work great on T-Mobile and band 12. I went Nexus 6P in Sprint myself and will never go back to a branded phone.
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Yes, I'm sorry. I really didn't complete or finish my rant. I do understand how the update, testing and all works with T-Mobile. Being an employee, I know the stance T-Mobile is taking... "Not our fault!" T-Mobile is tell us that the update is not available from LG but we all know it is. Everything is ready but they simply won't start the process. So went I said "T-Slow-mobile!" it was coming from knowing and frustration.
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The hardware failure has nothing to do with software updating. LG has released a statement recognizing that there is a problem with manufacturing; they blame a loose component connection.
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Fortunately, mine (both G4 and V10) don't have such problem.
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Yes, I'm sorry. I really didn't complete or finish my rant. I do understand how the update, testing and all works with T-Mobile. Being an employee, I know the stance T-Mobile is taking... "Not our fault!" T-Mobile is tell us that the update is not available from LG but we all know it is. Everything is ready but they simply won't start the process. So went I said "T-Slow-mobile!" it was coming from knowing and frustration.
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Ah, yes. I see now. So someone has let you know that the full OTA package has been fully tested and just waiting for them to say "go?" That could be a bit frustrating. I hate to say it but they may be waiting until the G5 release at the end of February. I hope that is not it and they just want to gear up their tech support for any issues that might arise.
I laugh every time I read one of these posts where people complain about not getting carrier updates quick enough to suit them. It's usually the same people that will complain about too many bugs on quickly released software.
You want immediate updates? Buy a nexus.
You want quick updates? Buy global, not carrier models.
You want a carrier model? Quit complaining about how long it takes them to release software updates.
Carriers always have been considerably behind the global "unlocked" models on software updates. It will always be that way, and for good reason.
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I laugh every time I read one of these posts where people complain about not getting carrier updates quick enough to suit them. It's usually the same people that will complain about too many bugs on quickly released software.
You want immediate updates? Buy a nexus.
You want quick updates? Buy global, not carrier models.
You want a carrier model? Quit complaining about how long it takes them to release software updates.
Carriers always have been considerably behind the global "unlocked" models on software updates. It will always be that way, and for good reason.
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The same type of person who would complain about every custom ROM and battery life and custom kernel settings and unnecessary governors aaaaaaand don't forget he wants YOU to make a step by step tutorial just for HIM. I swear man you hit the target with this one...I've been around since the htc g2, the nexus 4, galaxy s4, xperia z1, and now lg g4 and these types of people never go away.
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They should release a version without WiFi calling. I don't even use that crap.
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Absolutely. It's kinda pointless
It's your fault.
Want regular security updates? Buy a Nexus.
Want recent bug fixes? Buy a Nexus.
Want clear communication from LG or T-Mobile? Buy a Nexus.
Don't like the Nexus design? Buy a Nexus.
Remember folks, you need to make sure that you live within the constraints set by T-Mobile and LG for the G4. It's your fault for wanting things like regular updates or clear communication.
After all, you're paying them.
WiFi Calling vs Android 6.0
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Many of us do...so be patient...i live in a dead zone for all carriers and rely on wifi calling...it would be a total disservice to many users to update without wifi calling
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WiFi calling doesn't work very well for me. I am in a bad cell phone zone area also.
However, I always use WiFi at home to save data.
In the big picture, what is more important, Android 6.0 ir WiFi calling ?
I had Lollipop 5.1.1 on my LG G3 and it worked great.
Most people don't remember the fact that 5.1.1 has a search function while in Settings.
I found that extremely helpful for me. And it had the PIE submenu.
I think LG shortchanged everybody by not rolling out 5.1.1 on the G4.
When you consider that the manufacturers don't usually support a particular model for more than 2 years,
it totally sucks that they haven't upgraded the G4 for over 6 months!
I just purchased this phone. Seems like a great device. Too bad there is no root on it.
I chatted with customer support from ZTE asking when they are planning to release Marshmallow for the Axon.
They advised that Mid April is the time frame when they are planning to release that update.
How nice of them to tell us. I tweeted them and put something on Facebook and nothing. Next time I'll call. But at least we know.
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I just purchased this phone. Seems like a great device. Too bad there is no root on it.
I chatted with customer support from ZTE asking when they are planning to release Marshmallow for the Axon.
They advised that Mid April is the time frame when they are planning to release that update.
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Sweet! I just got my Axon. I got it for $160 on eBay brand new. Pretty good phone for the price I got ir for. Newegg was trying to get rid of them because the new line of Axon phones will be released soon.
Anyways, Soon after I read this post I called ZTE myself and the lady didn't want to say when they were planning on releasing it but she did tell me that they are still developing it. So at least we know we're getting the update.
Looking at all the bugs Marshmallow update has on the Pro, I wouldn't be so quick to update when it comes out on the non Pro version...
Mine is Axon with 2GB of r am, same version with you guys?
Model number is A1R
This phone is pretty good tho, except for blue color for the metal back, also 2GB of ram is not enough. I am always out of ram and app reload everytime i change.
The design make me feel like they got 2 front speakers but ... only 1 lol.
Anyway, for the price, im ok with it. Hopefully it got 6.0 soon
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Well they released some type of update for the Axon.
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Less than 50 Mb. Not update for Marshmallow. And I found this Axon is lagging. Trying to find a clean customized ROM but no luck.
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Well they released some type of update for the Axon.
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After B21 update wifi in zte axon work very slow. Reboot, turn off then on help for a while. Speed drop to 0.6 down and 0.5 up. Is some one else have same problem?
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Just got this phone today. I thought I was getting the pro. Lol can really notice the RAM at 2g being a little bit laggy. But otherwise it's not bad. If you enable developer options and set all of your animation settings to .5 it speeds it up considerably. Tried King root. Nothing yet but the requests are coming in for it. Id say we will get root soon. I worry about the inability to battery pull tho. It's always nice when rooting and modding lol
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Ordered an Axon non-Pro for my younger brother a week back, has there been any update on the Marshmallow update for it? I saw earlier this this thread that ZTE told someone it was a mid April target, but thats come and gone. My brothers new Axon has definitely not received an MM update yet. He did pull down 2(3?) smaller OTAs after I got him connected to his wifi.
Since I'm considering an Axon 7 for myself, I've started paying attention to their update release reputation. I don't care so much about custom roms any more, or root really, but I do want to know that I'm going to get at least 1 timely OS update.
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Ordered an Axon non-Pro for my younger brother a week back, has there been any update on the Marshmallow update for it? I saw earlier this this thread that ZTE told someone it was a mid April target, but thats come and gone. My brothers new Axon has definitely not received an MM update yet. He did pull down 2(3?) smaller OTAs after I got him connected to his wifi.
Since I'm considering an Axon 7 for myself, I've started paying attention to their update release reputation. I don't care so much about custom roms any more, or root really, but I do want to know that I'm going to get at least 1 timely OS update.
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Every ZTE Rep i have talked to said the MM update is still under development by their R&D department and have no idea when it will be released, but it will/
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Every ZTE Rep i have talked to said the MM update is still under development by their R&D department and have no idea when it will be released, but it will/
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Doesn't seem to be any news on MM for the older Axon.
Is there a Custom ROM or a how-to-ROOT for Axon with 801 cpu phone ?
Is there a Custom ROM or a how-to-ROOT for Axon with 801 cpu phone ?
Some ZTE-Axon (non-Pro, "A1R" with S801 Cpu) phones receive Android 6.0.1 OTA update
We have 2 Axon phones ([A1R] 5.5" ). One of them received the OTA Marshmallow 6.0.1 update automatically from Fido-Canada, everything went fine, great, no-problem.
The second "A1R" Axon is stuck with Android 5.1.1 ; and the OTA(6.0) is not coming through at all.
What can be done to force the Marshmallow update on that phone ?
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We have 2 Axon phones ([A1R] 5.5" ). One of them received the OTA Marshmallow 6.0.1 update automatically from Fido-Canada, everything went fine, great, no-problem.
The second "A1R" Axon is stuck with Android 5.1.1 ; and the OTA(6.0) is not coming through at all.
What can be done to force the Marshmallow update on that phone ?
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I have the same problem. Their upgrade schedule says the update is out but I am not receiving the update either. I will probably try contacting fido to see what the problem is.
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We have 2 Axon phones ([A1R] 5.5" ). One of them received the OTA Marshmallow 6.0.1 update automatically from Fido-Canada, everything went fine, great, no-problem.
The second "A1R" Axon is stuck with Android 5.1.1 ; and the OTA(6.0) is not coming through at all.
What can be done to force the Marshmallow update on that phone ?
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The same, no update yet.
mariopapas said:
We have 2 Axon phones ([A1R] 5.5" ). One of them received the OTA Marshmallow 6.0.1 update automatically from Fido-Canada, everything went fine, great, no-problem.
The second "A1R" Axon is stuck with Android 5.1.1 ; and the OTA(6.0) is not coming through at all.
What can be done to force the Marshmallow update on that phone ?
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Hi folks,
I too have been eagerly waiting for this upgrade and have read in a many forums that it was coming, with excerpts from dialogues with customer reps at various companies.
Today I spoke with a CSR at my carrier, who gave me ZTE's number to call. They then told me to use the support chat, who gave me some info saying that it has not yet been abandoned, and she would escalate my concern to the R&D team, but also suggested I post this request in here.
Caroline K: Thank you for the information. There has been talk of the Axon A1R device software update to the Android 6.0 software.
We have been getting a lot of requests from customers for the Android 6.0 software on the Axon A1R device.
From our conversation:
Caroline K: I do apologize, we do not have any estimated time frame as to when the Axon device will get the Android 6.0 software.
ME: Thanks. The alternative to upgrading the software would be to allow root access on the devices so we can install our own custom operating systems, but I have also read that ZTE is mute on those requests
Caroline K: I do understand your concerns as an end user myself. Most new applications require new software.
Yes, I do agree with you when it comes to unlocking the bootloader. ZTE does not have the option.
Me: Thanks for your understanding. As you have suggested you would escalate the issue, shall I expect a future response from the R&D team?
Caroline K: I will forward the unlock boot loader to our R&D team as well. The Axon 7 device was the only device that came close to the boot loader unlock.
So R&D team, please please please if you're reading this (as I have been told that you do: Caroline: Our forum support is run by part of the software team), please push out an update for Android Marshmallow 6.0, or unlock the boot loader to we can do our own custom ROMs.
Thanks