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FROYO update still pending

hi guy's
just resieved word on the FROYO update on facebook
James King ( Motorola Marketing Director)
made this comment:
For those that are still unclear from the above answers, the froyo/Milestone decision is pending, and that all recent views of the community were collated as part of that decision making process. Please await this outcome, and we can then go from there.
so please make your comments on there facebook page
facebook find motorola europe
but there is still a litle hope
german custommer Q:
hello! i bought the milestone (in austria) because i wanted a reliable open source phone without an apple logo.
BUT:
1. why do you say that the updates aren't like "a walk in the park"?
of course its much work and the quality check of the company even more. but the last updates were only small bugfixes (exept 2.1) and only one programmer of the community would have done that faster and mor reliable.
... Lees verder
2.the milestone (and the droid) was more or less the rescue for motorola. why do you try to destroy this success by scaring the new won community so off? is it only greed?
i hope not...
3.i know we said that a lot of times... but is there a chance if froyo won't find to the milestone by motorola, the BL get's free so that the community could make the work for you?
i know this is a crazy idea but maybe you could work together with some of the community programmers! they are really smart and get hardly any donates.
this idea is of course blue-eyed but maybe it would help and save money if you just ask one of them if they make a prot for you and you could "port" it to an official release.
i believe in you motorola! but without this update you lost a customer forever... and i am not the only one!
James King A:
‎@Patrick Senscheid... 1) they are different and slightly under different conditions given one is one country and one operator and the other multitude of countries and operators/variants...so takes longer to get through 2) Would love to know the 20 phones in a month we have released in europe 3) fair question, and one I'm pushing for. Thanks JK

jodepro said:
hi guy's
just resieved word on the FROYO update on facebook
James King ( Motorola Marketing Director)
made this comment:
For those that are still unclear from the above answers, the froyo/Milestone decision is pending, and that all recent views of the community were collated as part of that decision making process. Please await this outcome, and we can then go from there.
so please make your comments on there facebook page
facebook find motorola europe
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Dont know what they are waiting for. Many users want the update, i hope thats not the same thing like the HTC do New phone, No updates to the old phone....

I am hoping for an update too. In 2.2 some cool features that I want were added.

jodepro said:
hi guy's
just resieved word on the FROYO update on facebook
James King ( Motorola Marketing Director)
made this comment:
For those that are still unclear from the above answers, the froyo/Milestone decision is pending, and that all recent views of the community were collated as part of that decision making process. Please await this outcome, and we can then go from there.
so please make your comments on there facebook page
facebook find motorola europe
but there is still a litle hope
german custommer Q:
hello! i bought the milestone (in austria) because i wanted a reliable open source phone without an apple logo.
BUT:
1. why do you say that the updates aren't like "a walk in the park"?
of course its much work and the quality check of the company even more. but the last updates were only small bugfixes (exept 2.1) and only one programmer of the community would have done that faster and mor reliable.
... Lees verder
2.the milestone (and the droid) was more or less the rescue for motorola. why do you try to destroy this success by scaring the new won community so off? is it only greed?
i hope not...
3.i know we said that a lot of times... but is there a chance if froyo won't find to the milestone by motorola, the BL get's free so that the community could make the work for you?
i know this is a crazy idea but maybe you could work together with some of the community programmers! they are really smart and get hardly any donates.
this idea is of course blue-eyed but maybe it would help and save money if you just ask one of them if they make a prot for you and you could "port" it to an official release.
i believe in you motorola! but without this update you lost a customer forever... and i am not the only one!
James King A:
‎@Patrick Senscheid... 1) they are different and slightly under different conditions given one is one country and one operator and the other multitude of countries and operators/variants...so takes longer to get through 2) Would love to know the 20 phones in a month we have released in europe 3) fair question, and one I'm pushing for. Thanks JK
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can you post to us this Facebook link?

my take on the froyo milestone matter.
droid 2 is going to be released... with froyo.
motorola is probably looking to phase out the monetary responsibilities they have with the previous model. ie , move hired developers to work on new phone to save money.
They most likely want to focus their attention on droid 2, as they probably spend more money pushing a newer device. This way, they get more money.
And while pushing a newer device, they don't let a older's success distract customers and cause them to lose a profit on the newer device.
They need to market the newer device more than the older device (milestone) because they need to stay competitive.

The Droid 2 can't replace the Milestone, only the droid. (CDMA) But the Droid will get Froyo.

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The Droid 2 can't replace the Milestone, only the droid. (CDMA) But the Droid will get Froyo.
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If Droid gets Froyo, Milestone should get it too. TechSpec for both is not much different, except radio-band and some minor things.
The fact is Froyo Update is given only to few models. I think before coming to conclusion and loosing hope, we should wait for some time. Anyways its not even a year passed to launch of Milestone.
If you people think its too late, then it will also be a good idea to file a petition against Motorola for advertising Milestone as "Flash-ready" and later revoking the feature.
Anyone know how to file a petition?

They still not finishing rolling 2.1 update -2 yet. I think I am gonna move to another android device. Good Luck you guys hope Froyo gets to the milestone

I think im going to move as well. This is the last time I buy anything from Motorola. Ive had plenty of issues and only now, after the last update have most of them been solved. I still find the phone to be extremely sluggish at times and this kills the experience for me.

Even after the updates there are still some bugs on my Milestone...
Random Reboots and it cant access the SD sometimes...
Hope Motorola releases 2.2 and fast!

US Milestones are getting Froyo update tomorrow ...

Well the step child of motorola, the milestone, still has no updates....I am never going to buy another Moto product again.

I downloaded the OTA Froyo update (FRG01B) and installed it manually.
Android 2.2 @ 600mhz (stock)
-> BaseBand - C_01.43.01P
-> Kernel - 2.6.32.9-g103d848 <> [email protected] #1
-> Build - FRG01B

So the droid update works for the milestone. http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...yo-ota-is-now-live-download-yours-now-frg01b/

In my opinion it shouldn't be too difficult for Motorola Europe to take the US Droid FroYo and just sign the boot image (and make it support MultiTouch and stuff)...let's keep the fingers crossed...
P.S.: I don't understand why some of you say that they never will buy Motorola again - I think with the 2.1 release it's pretty much stable...except if the CPU is overclocked..it runs normally for a period of time and then it presents some bugs that only a restart can fix...mh...

Motorola MILESTONE to finally get to taste Froyo, this September
gsmarena.com/motorola_milestone_to_finally_get_to_taste_froyo_this_september-news-1856.php

RodNoc_eR said:
I downloaded the OTA Froyo update (FRG01B) and installed it manually.
Android 2.2 @ 600mhz (stock)
-> BaseBand - C_01.43.01P
-> Kernel - 2.6.32.9-g103d848 <> [email protected] #1
-> Build - FRG01B
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Yeah, cool. But you seems to live in the US so I think that you have a Droid instead of a Milestone.
As said on other threads and websites, this update doesn't work for the Milestone. We'll have to wait some weeks...

Froyo update on Milestone will be next September
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Froyo for Motorola Milestone “Undecided”

http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/20/froyo-motorola-milestone-undecided
And the hits just keep on hitting for Motorola Android handset owners. In a post on the Motorola Owners forum, Moto's Eurpean Marketing Director James King makes the following statement about the status of the Milestone getting Froyo in the near future:
Next European Milestone and 2.2 (Froyo). I have expressed over the last few days that the decision is pending. The team here has been collating key pieces of information and views from this community in the last month and providing input to relevant teams in Motorola so they are aware. I am pushing for that decision to be made as quickly as possible, and we can then all go from there. Some others ask why the decisions on upgrades take so long, and why does implementation then take much longer still. What I can say and have stated recently is that upgrades are not a walk in the park.
Sure there are short cuts that people can take, but when you have to integrate software to a specific hardware, then test it and integrate with third party applications, let alone any innovation from ourselves, plus then get approvals to make this all official and safe… its is a big undertaking that requires planning and resource and third party coordination to see this all through. As I say, once we have decision, we will inform. JK
So for those of you who bought the device because it was advertised as a "Flash-ready" device, it seems your wait is going to be an extended one. From this statement, it does not even look like Motorola has even begun development on an upgrade package.
This statement highlights the need for Google to develop an outstanding UI with Gingerbread, so that handset makers won't need to put non-vanilla Android on their units. Updates to phones with Motoblur are delayed because of the issues stated above and along with that is the bottom line, upgrades cost the handset maker money, money on which they will not see a return.
For you Milestone owners, you have our sympathy, it seems like Motorola is making some missteps lately with their handsets, promising one thing but delivering another. I hope that you do get your Froyo update in the near future. More info as we get it.
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i think this is the last motorola phone for me..

Harunjo -
You're not alone. Follow "Return your Milestone" on Facebook, or "First official info: No 2.2 for Milestone?" & "Froyo 2.2 - Milestone & Flash" on Moto Owners' Support Forum.

What the hell is this crap? The Droid is getting 2.2, of course we should be getting it as well.
Unless..
I really REALLY hope they aren't thinking of not updating the Milestone to 2.2.
I mean, why would they not want to update the Milestone? The Droid is going to get 2.2, why not us? Not only do they trap us with their locked bootloader, but they want to keep us with an old firmware version?
Another point: Even if we do get 2.2, why not be open with us? Just after Froyo's announcement at Google I/O, HTC comes out and declares which of their phones will get a 2.2 update. Not to mention their devices do not have a locked bootloader.
What exactly do they stand to lose if they became open with the community and say: "We are currently working on an Android 2.2 update for the Motorola Milestone."
This was my first phone from Motorola, but it is definitely going to be my LAST one.

If they fail to deliver Froyo they will face legal action...they advertised this phone as Flash 10.1 compatible, it says it right on my box!

chambo622 said:
they advertised this phone as Flash 10.1 compatible, it says it right on my box!
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Yeah, no. "Flash 10.1 ready" != whatever you think it means.

now they are really dumb

I hope certainly they will bring out this update, It's a good device with great potential, it would be dump if motorola doesn't update this one. They will lose a lot of customers.

its a shame, no other phone out in the market right now that is a slider qwerty and this sleek and thin.
they announce it to get us all hyped up.. then they release it.. with a catch..
motorola decides to screw around with its devoted customers. they don't realize how much money they can make from the milestone. open it up or release froyo.. or both! sigh
i wonder what the top executives of the company was thinking..

If we don't get an official Android 2.2 ROM from Motorola, let's make a community-branded Motorola Android 2.2 Custom ROM and send them the ROM saying "Here's what you should have made, but you failed to deliver". Give 'em some Deja Vu.
Still, it's the same situation like the HTC Tattoo - No 2.2 Love. Seriously, why do you want 2.2 for? It's just like an add-on to Android 2.1... I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Why not take the leaked Android 2.2 ROM for a spin?

Because all the speed and the better baterry managment and all the goodies anyway,are not in the rom itself but in the kernel.
Kernel cannot be changed if there is a locked bootloader.
So we may have an almost working froyo port,but without the new kernel,it doesnt do all it is capable of.
So,we damn need an oficial froyo!!!! ::
Sent from my Milestone

Coburn64 said:
If we don't get an official Android 2.2 ROM from Motorola, let's make a community-branded Motorola Android 2.2 Custom ROM and send them the ROM saying "Here's what you should have made, but you failed to deliver". Give 'em some Deja Vu.
Still, it's the same situation like the HTC Tattoo - No 2.2 Love. Seriously, why do you want 2.2 for? It's just like an add-on to Android 2.1... I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. Why not take the leaked Android 2.2 ROM for a spin?
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that would be funny and send them a few pics of the milestone running it

confirmed that 2.2 is coming to the Droid by Motorola surely that means it is coming to the Milestone too:-
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/30001

Nothing is sure....
For example Droid's bootloader is unlocked, Milestone's is locked...
As we have seen Motorola doesn't treat the same to their twins brothers (Droid and Milestone), giving to American users more than they are giving to Europeans
So if they don't give us an official report about froyo, nothing is sure...

Milestone is like a bastard child of motorola, occasionally if moto is in a good mood they might give some TLC. But all the attention is given to the real child droid, droid x.
Milestone was like an accident to them.... now with too many kids to support they decided to ignore the bastard child.....

Freakernoid said:
Milestone is like a bastard child of motorola, occasionally if moto is in a good mood they might give some TLC. But all the attention is given to the real child droid, droid x.
Milestone was like an accident to them.... now with too many kids to support they decided to ignore the bastard child.....
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hahahahaha that was funny man, but yep motorola seems to dont care about the milestone, they give the best things to the droid =(

the fact is:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
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If I remember correctly, milestone got 2.1 earlier than droid and now droid gonna get 2.2 much earlier than milestone. Perhaps there is a reason for that considering the fact that droid was released only for american market thus less customizations and localizations compared to the milestone which was released in several parts of the globe, requiring more changes and tests. Even now they are still rolling out the 2.1 update, my guess, we won't see milestone getting 2.2 not until q4, with hope that they do work on the update.
Sent from my Milestone XT720 using XDA App

I guess we won't have a problem if motorola said that 2.2 is coming to milestone and they can't confirm the date. But the fact is that they now said that its not confirm that its even coming. I guess thats what people are making a fuss about and not to mention the complete silence treatment is not helping.

I could really see Moto trying to start moving to using Android subversions as a selling point.
Oh, that phone's old, it has Android 2.2 - better buy a new phone that has 3.0
Requires no work on their part (except locking the bootloader) and they force users into buying new handsets to get software features. Look at all the handsets on the market- they're basically all the same hardware wise: 3.something inch screen, 1Ghz processor, 512ish RAM. Only the OS distinguishes this flood of phones.
Of course I'm talking about your non-power users here.
And as to the "why froyo?" post earlier: because the sholes_2.31 kernel (current UK rom) is buggy as hell and only a new kernel will fix those bugs, like not being able to wake itself up to ring an alarm...

The 2.36 update will solve that.
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Nokia N9

After your time with sensation and sense, did anyone try the N9? How does meego feel?
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I was one of those people waiting for Meego 2 years ago. Eventually I got tired of waiting and moved on to Android. Meego is a great concept with so much potentials, but its 2 years late into the game. Nokia already picked Windows Phone as the primary OS for their devices, who knows how much support will Meego get from Nokia. Meego will suffer the same faith as Maemo on the N900. Great community support, but no developer supports. If you really like the hardware design of the N9, the Nokia Lumia 800 is the closest thing you get, but with windows running on it. Meego is just too little too late...

I had an N900 that I thought I loved, thanks to it's power. However, one of the big issues with it for me was the laggy UI and non-GPU accelerated aspect of it. Android isn't GPU accelerated until 4.0, but it usually feels butter smooth anyway (on the right phones). The N900's UI was like 10 to 15 FPS max. Laggy and slow as hell. That really, really bothered me.
Then, Nokia said "Eff you guys, no more support from us". And that was the last Nokia I ever bought; the end.

I still have my N900 after getting the Sensation. I thought I would still use it as a sidewinder for wifi hacking, navigation reading etc, but in the end it sits in a drawer.
I power it on once in a while to see how it feels or play with Meego CE, but I last 5 minutes and go back to the Sensation.
It's like an old school car, you spend time and time again to make them run like you want and in the end a hot hatch is faster, more refined and has more features.
I had mine overclocked with kernels and faster with scripts and whatever else I could think or get from the maemo forums.
Tried the N9 in a store, it's nice and the UI I am sure will serve as a paradigm for later devices just like WebOS.
Having been trapped in a DEAD ecosystem with Nokia in the past I wouldn't buy it though.
We waited for 2 years for flash 10.1 which was promised on launch and we got NOTHING. Now N9ers are waiting for Alien Dalvik which might ore might not come and may not work with everything and may be OEM only.

xenios said:
I still have my N900 after getting the Sensation. I thought I would still use it as a sidewinder for wifi hacking, navigation reading etc, but in the end it sits in a drawer.
I power it on once in a while to see how it feels or play with Meego CE, but I last 5 minutes and go back to the Sensation.
It's like an old school car, you spend time and time again to make them run like you want and in the end a hot hatch is faster, more refined and has more features.
I had mine overclocked with kernels and faster with scripts and whatever else I could think or get from the maemo forums.
Tried the N9 in a store, it's nice and the UI I am sure will serve as a paradigm for later devices just like WebOS.
Having been trapped in a DEAD ecosystem with Nokia in the past I wouldn't buy it though.
We waited for 2 years for flash 10.1 which was promised on launch and we got NOTHING. Now N9ers are waiting for Alien Dalvik which might ore might not come and may not work with everything and may be OEM only.
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Lol, I remember firing up that flasher to get PR1.2, etc etc. Waiting forever for flash 10.1, that apparent beta release that was just flash 9 but all it did was tell browsers it was flash 10. Flashing the kernel that allowed for the 1Ghz+ overclock. Never lasted long enough to see the community update though, heard it was "great" from the N900 diehards, which probably means it was decent at best.

sshede said:
Lol, I remember firing up that flasher to get PR1.2, etc etc. Waiting forever for flash 10.1, that apparent beta release that was just flash 9 but all it did was tell browsers it was flash 10. Flashing the kernel that allowed for the 1Ghz+ overclock. Never lasted long enough to see the community update though, heard it was "great" from the N900 diehards, which probably means it was decent at best.
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Yeah, me too. CE edition is slow as hell and really has nothing whatsoever to do with the N9. Nitdroid was far more usable (I used to dual boot so I would get to know Android. btw N900 had GB way before some other high end phones of it's time).
In a strange mix of fortunes the N9 got Harmattan which was going to be Nokia's next step to Maemo and N900 got MeeGo (which was the bastard child of Moblin and Maemo).
Only thing they have in common is compatible apps.

This is getting odd I also had N900 prior Sensation. Is this a coincidence ?
As others said we were betrayed by Nokia. I'll admit I was a Nokia fanboy for a long time (too long maybe) but when I leared we're not getting anything that we were promised and our Ovi Store will be in BETA forever I decided to move to Android
ahh but N900 was a fun device, a true mobile computer in phone formfactor and fantastic community support ( MohammadAG and others are doing fantastic work)

Yeah i know what it means to be a ex-nokia lover, for me the N8x series got.my heart (N80,N82,N86) mainly because of camera.. did u ever use the N900 for wifi cracking?
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My favorites were the Nokia 6300b (not a smartphone), the N79, the N900, and although I never owned one, I really wanted an N96. I had two or three other Nokias, but they're not worth mentioning.

You guys complain about software support, but in ALL honesty, what the heck do you even want that the stock phones didn't have / they don't actually have in Ovi store?
I've started my nokias w/ E71 and am still running strong on E6. Almost all the basic features of your average android, but beastly battery and physical qwerty. I personally use my SGS2 as that fancy supercar, that you take outta your garage to play with once a week, and store it back because its rather impractical in everyday life.

Meego is not a bad system but Nokia N9 is last device with Meego so the support will die soon...That's why i don't recommend

Nokia N9 with MeeGo is too bad

Skv012a said:
You guys complain about software support, but in ALL honesty, what the heck do you even want that the stock phones didn't have / they don't actually have in Ovi store?
I've started my nokias w/ E71 and am still running strong on E6. Almost all the basic features of your average android, but beastly battery and physical qwerty. I personally use my SGS2 as that fancy supercar, that you take outta your garage to play with once a week, and store it back because its rather impractical in everyday life.
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The N9 is actually snappier.

z33dev33l said:
The N9 is actually snappier.
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Yep, all true. I had all the phones in my sig, and actually N9 is the most amazing for a day to day use. I am completely happy with it.

Just picked up a 64 Black myself. Any chance of a small subforum for Meego devices?

bmstrong said:
Just picked up a 64 Black myself.
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bmstrong said:
Just picked up a 64 Black myself. Any chance of a small subforum for Meego devices?
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What's the point? I doubt you will find too many N9 users here.
Just go to talk.maemo.org or official meego forums.
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Xxul said:
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Best looking mobile I've ever seen and held.
Pikabat said:
What's the point? I doubt you will find too many N9 users here.
Just go to talk.maemo.org or official meego forums.
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I already am. It's always nice to have a different set of eyeballs looking at things and another place to call home.

bmstrong said:
Best looking mobile I've ever seen and held.
I already am. It's always nice to have a different set of eyeballs looking at things and another place to call home.
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I almost wanted to trade my sensation for a 64gb N9, but then i found this theme ^^
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Very nice! But you are missing the hardware. The best looking device I have ever owned.

Pure 4.4.4 KitKat for T-Mobile Note 4

Hey guys is there anybody out there that's working or could work on Google's pure 4.4.4 version of KitKat for our note 4? There are a lot of rooted apps & games that are not supported in 5.0 lollipop & I also want to enjoy my 3GB of ram without installing a custom Samsung based rom that takes up almost 2 gigs of it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.

spunkfaucet666 said:
Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.
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Same here I need a cm11 or a 4.4.4 rom that's cm11 based

I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one

mgbotoe said:
I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one
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Yeah that's true but I don't know any developers on here lol plus I don't know any that's willing to work on one knowing everybody is going crazy about the 5.0 lollipop update

I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly

mgbotoe said:
I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly
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Yeah that's sadly true. But it won't hurt to ask.....even tho I might 99 replies in "no" but I might get one yes & hopefully that matters

Lollipop, Nexus 6, Experia 3Z
BACARDILIMON said:
I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S
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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......

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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......
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I be honest I will be staying on nk4 when lollipop drops.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

Yeah...that was the gist of what I wrote. LOL

The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.

Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol

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Nit3H8wk said:
The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.
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It beyond me why they would make a phone without an SD card slot. Wtf.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

Honestly, i wouldnt mind a CM11 rom. I really loved the stock 4.4.4 that came the with Nexus 5, smooth and bare.
But another point is, development doesnt go backwards (usually, anyway).
I would love it, but it wont be done .
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@slayher wink wink.
Pay the man, maybe he'll port.
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mgbotoe said:
Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol
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Thank you. Any help is appreciated

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Lmao, I'm stealing that btw

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??

Really the M8 before the turbo?

My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.

sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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Ok.

sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/171490729222?lpid=82&chn=ps&varId=470546673204
Problem solved! Mods feel free to lock this as it is now resolved!

Perfectly content to wait for bug free 5.1

Depends on what is important to you in a phone. I am always amazed to see people itching for the next update, etc, but honestly, if you always want the latest "greatest" (Personally, I cannot stand all the white in Lollipop), perhaps you will be disappointed in the Turbo. Perhaps once Vzw "approves" (like they have any power in that equation really) the update, it will be flawless, but i wouldnt hold my breath. As far as HTC goes, I can say I have never used an HTC phone with the same signal quality as its Moto counterpart. (Moto knows antennae/signal like no other) Also, If you read up on the Moto Maxx Lollipop update, it isn't too great. @adrenalyne can attest to that. Honestly, the real reason to be upset with a Turbo is the lack of bootloader unlock, as that would motivate Cyanogenmod to create a base that would translate to buttloads of Lollipop roms with the capability to return to stock KK Moto, am option you will not have once it updates as the keys do not allow reverting. Then, you would have the capability to experience it, realize it is not all its cracked up to be yet, and go happily back to where you are now. I know I went back to OSE KK happily from the best motox/droid ultra/maxx lollipop roms. the x8 architechture makes these newer moto phones amazing,(notice how Active Display does not kill your battery) but also has been the reason Lollipop has taken this long for those (msm8960dt) phones. Its hard to be patient, but I assure you, you aren't missing too much. and once you get lollipop, you will be stuck with it, for better or for worse.

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http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/171490729222?lpid=82&chn=ps&varId=470546673204
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Actually, no, that's a GSM phone. If they're using the Turbo, they're likely on Verizon.

Not Motos fault
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You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available

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You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available
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You got all that about me from word eh?
I am impressed!

Verizon is not necessarily to blame. They have approved update for the HTC and Samsung phones. I don't know why we haven't received the update. It seems people that have it aren't all that impressed and some are unhappy. Droid-Life days lollipop is a buggy mess. But I don't think we can blindly blame Verizon since they have approved it for other phones. That said... Don't buy a phone anticipating an update.
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The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!

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The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!
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All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
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All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
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The "it's still buggy" argument seems to be the general response when people like me are getting impatient. And while that does hold some truth, I think 5.0.2 has fixed most of the major issues. I'm running CM12 based on 5.0.2 on my Galaxy S4 and my Asus Tablet, and they both are running well now. There were some issues when the nightlies first came out, but 5.0.2 seems to be pretty stable now depending on what hardware you have.

https://plus.google.com/101651363550089117949/posts/UgxKuJxEEgo
Maybe good news? 5.1 for turbo? Maybe we get when nexus 6 is for sale at vzw?
I realize it could be untrue since it didn't come directly from moto or Verizon but interesting nonetheless.

Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.

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Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.
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Or you can believe an advertised feature of the device being "Upgradeable to Lollipop" as listed in the original press release for the Droid Turbo. (link) Moral of the story for me is not to trust OEMs when they make upgrade promises. Sure they didn't give a specific timeframe when they promised Lollipop for the Turbo, but 4+ months after official release of source code is a joke.

There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.

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There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Galaxy S5.

Character Zero said:
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Are you sure? I think you are wrong.
Here's the Advanced Calling list for Verizon. LG G3 is on the list and several users got Lollipop from Verizon.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Several LG G3 users since February 23 have reported Lollipop update being available to them. NO, they were not part of soak test.
Verizon’s LG G3 Reported To Be In The Process of Getting Android 5.0.1 Lollipop Update
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ss-getting-android-5-0-1-lollipop-update.html
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Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.

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Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.
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I'm not sure it is available for everyone. On further research may be a very slow rollout. But some people are getting it...