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WP7 Nodo Update for Tmobile HD7

Any word on when we will be getting this for us Tmobile US users. Anxiously waiting for copy/paste funcitonality. Overall i like the phone, but some very spotty reception especially with 3g data connection.

I think as far as anyone knows the update is due to start rolling out from the 8th March... but it'll be the carriers that can delay it by a week or two

Yeah, I'm waiting for the update before I decide if I'm going to keep this HD7 or not. I love the big screen and I love the OS. But this phone has some serious reception issues. My Moto Defy and even my Nokia Nuron get much better reception in both voice and data. I'm not use to so many dropped called.

I hear ya, but wouldn't that be a carrier update, not NoDo that addresses these reception issues we have. Just thinking logically here, this is a software update, not radio or kernel correct? MS can't possibly know all the issues present for each carrier or phone that needs to be addresses. Soryr coming form android so maybe my understanding is incorrect.

JamesDax said:
Yeah, I'm waiting for the update before I decide if I'm going to keep this HD7 or not. I love the big screen and I love the OS. But this phone has some serious reception issues. My Moto Defy and even my Nokia Nuron get much better reception in both voice and data. I'm not use to so many dropped called.
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I'm waiting with you. So far, the same disappointment. I also noted that prices have fallen significantly and people are getting rid of them.

It seems that as soon MS will do something good is this system will fail. Even though HTC has released several new models, but with Android on board.

HTC Europe v1.30 ROM was released over in the Mozart forums and build number confirmed final NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984239
and this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11917333#post11917333
I'm sure it's just a matter of hours for HD7... the pre-update went quick and smoothly, as well so should this one too.
Cheers

aquanaut88 said:
HTC Europe v1.30 ROM was released over in the Mozart forums and build number confirmed final NoDo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984239
and this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11917333#post11917333
I'm sure it's just a matter of hours for HD7... the pre-update went quick and smoothly, as well so should this one too.
Cheers
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Tmobile US sent you the pre-update?

Please confirm post above
Ya im confused too. I'm on Tmobile USA and didnt get a pre update yet.....
Please confirm/Explain

Me neither

From what I've gathered, the pre-update wasn't/isn't 100% necessary.

Any good news?

jimbonics said:
From what I've gathered, the pre-update wasn't/isn't 100% necessary.
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the content of the update is necessary but the update process itself isn't because the contents of that update will be included in the NoDo update. Given the fact that the 8th was only a rumored date, I doubt its coming out today, but hey surprises are welcome!

Luisraul924 said:
the content of the update is necessary but the update process itself isn't because the contents of that update will be included in the NoDo update. Given the fact that the 8th was only a rumored date, I doubt its coming out today, but hey surprises are welcome!
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i've been checking all day. nothing.

scriller said:
i've been checking all day. nothing.
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same here... Ah well at least the fact that the update is out unofficially for dev/unlocked devices is a good sign.

devGOD said:
Tmobile US sent you the pre-update?
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not I'm starting hate them

It's my understanding that the pre-update is not necessary. What T-mobile has done was include the pre-update WITH the NoDo update; this was noted as something carriers were allowed to do.
When does this combo update come? Who the hell knows.

nexus14 said:
It's my understanding that the pre-update is not necessary. What T-mobile has done was include the pre-update WITH the NoDo update; this was noted as something carriers were allowed to do.
When does this combo update come? Who the hell knows.
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Microsoft themselves stated (while being scrutinized if carriers can block updates) that updates are bundled together by them (Microsoft) so that it won't have an effect on consumers who's carriers have blocked a previous update. The first update served two purposes: the first; was driver or firmware level upgrades that facilitate the upgrade process (which is why those small number of phones ended up bricking when the update went awry) the second was to see the worst case scenario that ended up happening to the Samsung phones. So to do list for initial update crossed out, time to release NoDo!

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ej_424 said:
Any word on when we will be getting this for us Tmobile US users. Anxiously waiting for copy/paste funcitonality. Overall i like the phone, but some very spotty reception especially with 3g data connection.
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http://www.wpcentral.com/trophy-and...=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wmexperts+(wpcentral) not sure if this will help probably not
check this link also this should get everyone on the right foot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10176994#post10176994

Can anybody confirm whether the radio & firmware updated ROM that XDA user Ansar posted over in the development section made it into the NoDo update ROM? I've heard good things about that radio update (saves battery, better signal etc.) and it'd be nice to know that we would also be receiving that updated radio and firmware.

Gingerbread official update announcement (UK)

Out of curiosity, I just sent an enquiry to HTC UK about when they might be officially updating the device to 2.3.3 or a subsequent version. Here's the answer I got:
"Thank you very much for contacting the HTC technical support help desk. We are excited to announce that HTC Incredible will receive the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) update in Summer 2011. Stay tuned for details as we get closer to the update availability. Please, for HTC INCREDIBLE S downloads and useful information about your device goes to: http://www.htc.com/uk/help_howtos.aspx?p_id=389"
I don't know about all of you, but this disappoints me - the Desire S is about to be released and yet that will be shipping with 2.3.3. And 'Summer'? That could easily be as late as September. This is all starting to sound very similar to the last time I was burned by HTC when I had a Hero and I was hanging around for 6 months waiting for a 2.x update from Android 1.5.
Anyway, I've told them I don't think this is good enough. I just hope someone finds a root exploit soon so there's a chance of me keeping vaguely up to date with new Android versions. Otherwise I'm going to be more and more tempted to sell this thing on later in the year and find something a bit more update-friendly.

to be honest, that just sound like the marketing department haven't been told anything, and that is a safe, wide target area, I wouldn't read too much into it.
I too suffered the Hero saga, don't want a repeat of that

l0st.prophet said:
to be honest, that just sound like the marketing department haven't been told anything, and that is a safe, wide target area, I wouldn't read too much into it.
I too suffered the Hero saga, don't want a repeat of that
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I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to release an update within the next month or so, rather than 'Summer'. It's the vagueness that concerns me more than anything else!
Also, am I right in thinking that all Incredible S models ship without any carrier/network specific branding or functions within the software? I'm hopeful that will cut down the time it takes to build and release the update.

I think the update comes in May or June the latest. You figure this phone is gone be in Canada on Virgin and Bell sometime early April and in the states on Verizon at the end of April. I figure once the phone is more widely available the update will come. If we are lucky maybe the official gingerbread rom for the Incredible S gets leaked in April.

According to Engadget Chinese (during the press conference of Desire S announcement in Taiwan), hTC representative suggested that Gingerbread for Incredible S would be available "in next 2 weeks". Considering European countries always get the OTA update earlier than Asia Pacific region (Desire, Desire HD, Desire Z, Aria, Legend...). If the news is true, UK should probably get the update in April.
And also they announced a partnership with Skype to provide customized version of Skype in 2.3 update to include video call ability, which is a great news for us. Just hope this Skype version works better than the one in Market...

doctorsax said:
Out of curiosity, I just sent an enquiry to HTC UK about when they might be officially updating the device to 2.3.3 or a subsequent version. Here's the answer I got:
"Thank you very much for contacting the HTC technical support help desk. We are excited to announce that HTC Incredible will receive the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) update in Summer 2011. Stay tuned for details as we get closer to the update availability. Please, for HTC INCREDIBLE S downloads and useful information about your device goes to: http://www.htc.com/uk/help_howtos.aspx?p_id=389"
I don't know about all of you, but this disappoints me - the Desire S is about to be released and yet that will be shipping with 2.3.3. And 'Summer'? That could easily be as late as September. This is all starting to sound very similar to the last time I was burned by HTC when I had a Hero and I was hanging around for 6 months waiting for a 2.x update from Android 1.5.
Anyway, I've told them I don't think this is good enough. I just hope someone finds a root exploit soon so there's a chance of me keeping vaguely up to date with new Android versions. Otherwise I'm going to be more and more tempted to sell this thing on later in the year and find something a bit more update-friendly.
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I had similar bs answer from them..
my enquiry was that as I purchased the phone sim/ carrier free, and it is the carriers who will release the update..which carrier sim wld I need to be using to get it?
in fact the reply bypassed the question completely, saying just 'most carriers wld release the updat (really htc? so do i have to use a sim from a carrier that supports IS???)...and then went on to say 'what is more important is that when the OTA is released by your carrier, make sure you are using wifi to download..
All I wanted was straight answer like 'O2 will def be releasing the update, it doesnt come direct from us, and expect it in xyz'..
HTC havent even released it to carriers yet, so when they do that'l take another couple of months for them to tamper with it..HTC obviously have a finished product which works with sense ui as they've been parading it around on the Desire S..so must be ready for release before now.

chrisr27 said:
I had similar bs answer from them..
my enquiry was that as I purchased the phone sim/ carrier free, and it is the carriers who will release the update..which carrier sim wld I need to be using to get it?
in fact the reply bypassed the question completely, saying just 'most carriers wld release the updat (really htc? so do i have to use a sim from a carrier that supports IS???)...and then went on to say 'what is more important is that when the OTA is released by your carrier, make sure you are using wifi to download..
All I wanted was straight answer like 'O2 will def be releasing the update, it doesnt come direct from us, and expect it in xyz'..
HTC havent even released it to carriers yet, so when they do that'l take another couple of months for them to tamper with it..HTC obviously have a finished product which works with sense ui as they've been parading it around on the Desire S..so must be ready for release before now.
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More likely than not, the official update will get leaked anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about that if you're lurking here as you'll probably see it here first. I'm on 3 in the UK who definitely don't support this phone, so this is what I'll probably be relying on unless the update comes direct from HTC. I wouldn't rely on HTC support to know where it's coming from, they're clearly as much in the dark as we are but have to give an answer of some kind. They don't count on people actually being clued up already, sadly.
I agree that if the Desire S is getting it, we should be getting it soon, but I do understand if there's a short delay due to it having to be tested fully on differing hardware. It's just the vagueness and the timescale that gets to me.

if the official update does get leaked, could it be installed without root?
update def won't be from HTC direct, thats the one thing they are adamant about..your's is a perfect example of a carrier that therefore wouldnt be releasing the update..and as for the clowns at 3 dont get me started..I had a DHD from 3, contacted them about a ginbgerbread update and they just told me they were'nt doing it and that 2.1 was the latest version 3 had...erm, hello 3..i bought the phone from your shop with 2.2 already on it!
glad i got rid of my dhd tho...IS is tons better

Really the M8 before the turbo?

My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.

sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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Ok.

sal_shawn said:
My fiances m8 got lollipop before the turbo. The reason I got this phone was this phone was supposed to get lollipop and the battery. I am so disappointed I will never get another Motorola phone.
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/like/171490729222?lpid=82&chn=ps&varId=470546673204
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Perfectly content to wait for bug free 5.1

Depends on what is important to you in a phone. I am always amazed to see people itching for the next update, etc, but honestly, if you always want the latest "greatest" (Personally, I cannot stand all the white in Lollipop), perhaps you will be disappointed in the Turbo. Perhaps once Vzw "approves" (like they have any power in that equation really) the update, it will be flawless, but i wouldnt hold my breath. As far as HTC goes, I can say I have never used an HTC phone with the same signal quality as its Moto counterpart. (Moto knows antennae/signal like no other) Also, If you read up on the Moto Maxx Lollipop update, it isn't too great. @adrenalyne can attest to that. Honestly, the real reason to be upset with a Turbo is the lack of bootloader unlock, as that would motivate Cyanogenmod to create a base that would translate to buttloads of Lollipop roms with the capability to return to stock KK Moto, am option you will not have once it updates as the keys do not allow reverting. Then, you would have the capability to experience it, realize it is not all its cracked up to be yet, and go happily back to where you are now. I know I went back to OSE KK happily from the best motox/droid ultra/maxx lollipop roms. the x8 architechture makes these newer moto phones amazing,(notice how Active Display does not kill your battery) but also has been the reason Lollipop has taken this long for those (msm8960dt) phones. Its hard to be patient, but I assure you, you aren't missing too much. and once you get lollipop, you will be stuck with it, for better or for worse.

zathus said:
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Actually, no, that's a GSM phone. If they're using the Turbo, they're likely on Verizon.

Not Motos fault
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Ok.
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You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available

renegadeone8 said:
You act like this is even 1% motos fault and not Verizon (the biggest sticklers known to man.). If I remember right moto said awhile ago that the update had been delivered to VZW for inspection, but Verizon is so terrified that somebody might (gasp) root their phone that they hang onto it until they are pretty positive that there is no simple root method available
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You got all that about me from word eh?
I am impressed!

Verizon is not necessarily to blame. They have approved update for the HTC and Samsung phones. I don't know why we haven't received the update. It seems people that have it aren't all that impressed and some are unhappy. Droid-Life days lollipop is a buggy mess. But I don't think we can blindly blame Verizon since they have approved it for other phones. That said... Don't buy a phone anticipating an update.
Sent from my Droid Turbo using Tapatalk

The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!

ahaynes42 said:
The source code for Lollipop has been out over 4 months now. It's absolutely ridiculous that this phone does not have Lollipop yet. It has a near stock android version and a widely used chipset. Samsung, HTC, and LG have ALL updated their skinned versions of android already. I don't care who's fault it is - Verizon or Moto - all that matters is that somebody screwed up with this delay. If we had an unlocked bootloader, we would already have Lollipop thanks to unpaid devs. My old phone and tablet are both running Lollipop thanks to these devs I speak of. This is the last time I buy a phone with a fully locked down bootloader and no hope of root. I just couldn't resist that battery!
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All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080

bigv5150 said:
All the Roms are buggy as hell with some major issues from what I have read. The way I look at it is better to have a smooth os then the newest buggy os.
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The "it's still buggy" argument seems to be the general response when people like me are getting impatient. And while that does hold some truth, I think 5.0.2 has fixed most of the major issues. I'm running CM12 based on 5.0.2 on my Galaxy S4 and my Asus Tablet, and they both are running well now. There were some issues when the nightlies first came out, but 5.0.2 seems to be pretty stable now depending on what hardware you have.

https://plus.google.com/101651363550089117949/posts/UgxKuJxEEgo
Maybe good news? 5.1 for turbo? Maybe we get when nexus 6 is for sale at vzw?
I realize it could be untrue since it didn't come directly from moto or Verizon but interesting nonetheless.

Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.

draco259 said:
Moral of the story? Buy a phone(or any product) for what it offers AT THAT TIME.
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Or you can believe an advertised feature of the device being "Upgradeable to Lollipop" as listed in the original press release for the Droid Turbo. (link) Moral of the story for me is not to trust OEMs when they make upgrade promises. Sure they didn't give a specific timeframe when they promised Lollipop for the Turbo, but 4+ months after official release of source code is a joke.

There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.

Character Zero said:
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Galaxy S5.

Character Zero said:
There isn't a phone on Verizon with Lollipop and VoLTE (Advanced Calling) so the DT is not behind yet.
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Are you sure? I think you are wrong.
Here's the Advanced Calling list for Verizon. LG G3 is on the list and several users got Lollipop from Verizon.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Several LG G3 users since February 23 have reported Lollipop update being available to them. NO, they were not part of soak test.
Verizon’s LG G3 Reported To Be In The Process of Getting Android 5.0.1 Lollipop Update
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ss-getting-android-5-0-1-lollipop-update.html
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Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.

Character Zero said:
Hmm ok I forgot about Galaxy S5. Didn't know LG G3 update ws avaialable to everyone.
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I'm not sure it is available for everyone. On further research may be a very slow rollout. But some people are getting it...

N9600 no software received since July. Help!

Hello everyone!
I just got the Note 9, coming from an S7. So far I'm in love with it! Definitely the best phone I've ever had, however, I did notice one issue I'm not particularly comfortable with. If I check my software information I see the security patch level is from July 1st 2018. If I tap on software update it says the latest updates are already installed.
I was quite hyped about the One UI update, but seeing this I started to wonder If I'll ever get it via OTA, and most importantly that I will probably be stuck forever on this July patch and not get any security updates
My question here is: If I download a firmware update fromSamMobile and decide to flash the one from Hong Kong or any other country, will it mess something up due to the fact it's not my country? I just want regular updates and seeing no update has arrived for this specific firmware of mine since July makes me think I will NEVER get anything and that honestly sucks.
Any help would be extremely appreciated!

budowski said:
Hello everyone!
I just got the Note 9, coming from an S7. So far I'm in love with it! Definitely the best phone I've ever had, however, I did notice one issue I'm not particularly comfortable with. If I check my software information I see the security patch level is from July 1st 2018. If I tap on software update it says the latest updates are already installed.
I was quite hyped about the One UI update, but seeing this I started to wonder If I'll ever get it via OTA, and most importantly that I will probably be stuck forever on this July patch and not get any security updates
My question here is: If I download a firmware update fromSamMobile and decide to flash the one from Hong Kong or any other country, will it mess something up due to the fact it's not my country? I just want regular updates and seeing no update has arrived for this specific firmware of mine since July makes me think I will NEVER get anything and that honestly sucks.
Any help would be extremely appreciated!
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WOW,that sounds like pre-release firmware..................
A few questions to get the ball rollin':
1) Which market/area are you using the phone?
2) Which carrier are you using/is this phone loaded-up with carrier-specific firmware out-of-the-box?
3) Are you able to use Samsung Pay/Google Pay/banking apps (if desired)?
4) Is the phone bootloader unlocked &/or rooted? If so,this usually kills most mfgs updates from being pushed to the phone & some tap-to-pay apps.
If you could provide a screen shot such as this (or the circled information) it may be of help to determine what's going on:
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As for will flashing another areas firmware somehow prevent future updates for being automatically pushed to the phone,I'm not certain.
The screenshot info I requested should give others here a better idea of what's going on w/your update situation.
If everything is 100% as it was shipped by Samsung (no other firmware flashed/no bootloader unlock/root),you're still likely better off by switching to a different areas firmware & updating manually if necessary.

KOLIOSIS said:
WOW,that sounds like pre-release firmware..................
A few questions to get the ball rollin':
1) Which market/area are you using the phone?
2) Which carrier are you using/is this phone loaded-up with carrier-specific firmware out-of-the-box?
3) Are you able to use Samsung Pay/Google Pay/banking apps (if desired)?
4) Is the phone bootloader unlocked &/or rooted? If so,this usually kills most mfgs updates from being pushed to the phone & some tap-to-pay apps.
If you could provide a screen shot such as this (or the circled information) it may be of help to determine what's going on:
As for will flashing another areas firmware somehow prevent future updates for being automatically pushed to the phone,I'm not certain.
The screenshot info I requested should give others here a better idea of what's going on w/your update situation.
If everything is 100% as it was shipped by Samsung (no other firmware flashed/no bootloader unlock/root),you're still likely better off by switching to a different areas firmware & updating manually if necessary.
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1. Costa Rica
2. To give you a little bit of information in Costa Rica it's illegal locking a phone to a specific carrier. You can buy it wherever you want and use the sim card of your preference. I just bought it there because it was cheaper. It's a two year plan with the carrier but again, if I want to use any carrier I can, as long as I keep paying them for the plan I'm using. Technically the phone is unlocked. It just has a ****ty preinstalled software on it and I want to get rid of it.
3. We don't have that here so it's not an issue for me, no worries there.
4. I haven't rooted my phone.
I attached the screenshot with the info you requested. Hopefully that can help you have a better understanding and others as well.
Thank you so much!
here you go: https://i.imgur.com/pckXU8q.jpg

budowski said:
1. Costa Rica
2. To give you a little bit of information in Costa Rica it's illegal locking a phone to a specific carrier. You can buy it wherever you want and use the sim card of your preference. I just bought it there because it was cheaper. It's a two year plan with the carrier but again, if I want to use any carrier I can, as long as I keep paying them for the plan I'm using. Technically the phone is unlocked. It just has a ****ty preinstalled software on it and I want to get rid of it.
3. We don't have that here so it's not an issue for me, no worries there.
4. I haven't rooted my phone.
I attached the screenshot with the info you requested. Hopefully that can help you have a better understanding and others as well.
Thank you so much!
Edit: Screenshot not working, here you go:
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Is the pre-installed software carrier-specific garb,such as we get in the US & if so,is it of the same market/SIM Card you're using?
If the firmware/software is carrier specific & you're using another SIM Card/service,that may explain why you're not getting timely updates (that was the case w/me on an AT&T phone on T-Mobile at one time,not sure if such restrictions/stumbling blocks still exist w/AT&T or other carriers).

KOLIOSIS said:
Is the pre-installed software carrier-specific garb,such as we get in the US & if so,is it of the same market/SIM Card you're using?
If the firmware/software is carrier specific & you're using another SIM Card/service,that may explain why you're not getting timely updates (that was the case w/me on an AT&T phone on T-Mobile at one time,not sure if such restrictions/stumbling blocks still exist w/AT&T or other carriers).
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I use the same SIM card from the carrier I bought it. This is the one I have installed on my phone, just found it on SM: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note9/SM-N9600/CRM/download/N9600ZHU1ARG6/232385/

budowski said:
I use the same SIM card from the carrier I bought it. This is the one I have installed on my phone, just found it on SM: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note9/SM-N9600/CRM/download/N9600ZHU1ARG6/232385/
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If the phone is unadulterated (factory firmware,no b/l unlock-root) & you're using the service provider of the installed firmware,it sounds like it's in the carrier's hands & they're in no hurry to push updates.
You could flash a non-carreir firmware,but,that may result in loss of WI-FI Calling/VoLTE/VVM or other carrier-specific items that you want to keep.
I found this one for Costa Rica on SamMobile,not sure if it's carrier specific,or,a SIM-Free firmware:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note9/SM-N9600/ICE/download/N9600ZHS1ARK2/247194/
It's quite a bit more current if you want to try it out,but,I'd make sure I have the factory firmware available to flash just in case there's something you don't like/etc.......

KOLIOSIS said:
If the phone is unadulterated (factory firmware,no b/l unlock-root) & you're using the service provider of the installed firmware,it sounds like it's in the carrier's hands & they're in no hurry to push updates.
You could flash a non-carreir firmware,but,that may result in loss of WI-FI Calling/VoLTE/VVM or other carrier-specific items that you want to keep.
I found this one for Costa Rica on SamMobile,not sure if it's carrier specific,or,a SIM-Free firmware:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note9/SM-N9600/ICE/download/N9600ZHS1ARK2/247194/
It's quite a bit more current if you want to try it out,but,I'd make sure I have the factory firmware available to flash just in case there's something you don't like/etc.......
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I started downloading that same one before I created this post, however I was not quite sure if anything would happen. I'm asking because I saw a bunch of posts earlier about CSC's and that kind of stuff that confused me.

KOLIOSIS said:
If the phone is unadulterated (factory firmware,no b/l unlock-root) & you're using the service provider of the installed firmware,it sounds like it's in the carrier's hands & they're in no hurry to push updates.
You could flash a non-carreir firmware,but,that may result in loss of WI-FI Calling/VoLTE/VVM or other carrier-specific items that you want to keep.
I found this one for Costa Rica on SamMobile,not sure if it's carrier specific,or,a SIM-Free firmware:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note9/SM-N9600/ICE/download/N9600ZHS1ARK2/247194/
It's quite a bit more current if you want to try it out,but,I'd make sure I have the factory firmware available to flash just in case there's something you don't like/etc.......
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I started downloading that same one before I created this post, however I was not quite sure if anything bad would happen. I'm asking because I saw a bunch of posts earlier about CSC's and that kind of stuff that confused me.

budowski said:
I started downloading that same one before I created this post, however I was not quite sure if anything bad would happen. I'm asking because I saw a bunch of posts earlier about CSC's and that kind of stuff that confused me.
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I'm not 100% sure on this,but,after doing a bit of digging,the firmware I posted appears to be specific to Kolbi
https://www.kolbi.cr/wps/portal/kolbi_dev/personas#/
So,that may be an option,but,then you're seemingly stuck w/their bloatware & possibly,lose some functionality of your current firmware.
The upside is a more current version/security update.
However,unless someone chimes in with a similar experience w/Costa Rican carrier firmwares,you're probably going to be the canary in the coal mine & have to flash other firmwares & find out if it's worth it to you to use another firmware.
SUX that you're left having to find out on your own,your situation w/July firmware is criminal & unfortunately,while an extreme example,is not a unique one.

KOLIOSIS said:
I'm not 100% sure on this,but,after doing a bit of digging,the firmware I posted appears to be specific to Kolbi
https://www.kolbi.cr/wps/portal/kolbi_dev/personas#/
So,that may be an option,but,then you're seemingly stuck w/their bloatware & possibly,lose some functionality of your current firmware.
The upside is a more current version/security update.
However,unless someone chimes in with a similar experience w/Costa Rican carrier firmwares,you're probably going to be the canary in the coal mine & have to flash other firmwares & find out if it's worth it to you to use another firmware.
SUX that you're left having to find out on your own,your situation w/July firmware is criminal & unfortunately,while an extreme example,is not a unique one.
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That may be a one specific to a different carrier in Costa Rica. There are three carriers here and Kolbi is one of them, not the one I have though. Do you have any idea what functionality could I lose, apart from WiFi calling and the stuff you mentioned previously?
I want to try a completely different one, maybe not even a one specific to Costa Rica. What I'm not sure is what would happen if I, for example decided to try a Hong Kong one which seemingly has faster updates. I don't know if flashing a completely different region software would mess up my phone.

budowski said:
That may be a one specific to a different carrier in Costa Rica. There are three carriers here and Kolbi is one of them, not the one I have though. Do you have any idea what functionality could I lose, apart from WiFi calling and the stuff you mentioned previously?
I want to try a completely different one, maybe not even a one specific to Costa Rica. What I'm not sure is what would happen if I, for example decided to try a Hong Kong one which seemingly has faster updates. I don't know if flashing a completely different region software would mess up my phone.
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Wish I could be of help w/info regarding the WI-FI Calling/VoLTE/VVM with your carrier on another firmware,that varies from carrier to carrier as far as carrier-specific firmware & how the carriers handle it.
One way to try to glean some info regarding that would be to contact your carrier & ask if BYOD's have all of the functionality vs carrier-branded phones.
It's definitely a mixed bag here in the USA.
As long as you flash firmware for the SM-N9600 model,regardless of which region/carrier it's linked to,you should be OK with the basics (voice/messaging/data),the most you might have to do is check the APN to make sure you're getting the best service/what's specific to your service provider (should be automatic in SIM Free firmware,YMMV on carrier-specific firmware).
Knox will NOT be tripped w/official Samsung firmware,but,out-of-region firmware may render Samsung Pay/Google Pay useless.

Question Global Version AT&T After 3G Shutdown

I see the global version supports wifi calling and VOLTE and has as much band support as my Huawei P30 Pro so the coverage should be fine but will this phone actually work on AT&T after the 3g shutdown? I've read forums where people "call" *#somenumbers*#" and it lets them turn on VOLTE without the carrier checking compatibility. Any advice or input would be great. I really hate iPhones and Samsungs which seems to be all US carriers want to support.

pseriesjim said:
I see the global version supports wifi calling and VOLTE and has as much band support as my Huawei P30 Pro so the coverage should be fine but will this phone actually work on AT&T after the 3g shutdown? I've read forums where people "call" *#somenumbers*#" and it lets them turn on VOLTE without the carrier checking compatibility. Any advice or input would be great. I really hate iPhones and Samsungs which seems to be all US carriers want to support.
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I'm on Tmobile works perfectly on 4G LTE. 3G isn't an issue as that only applies to phones that rely on 3G data and Yes, VoLTE works!

That's good to know because ATT is basically trying to force me to buy one of maybe 3 phones. I wish I could keep my P30 Pro but I cant seem to get the update that enables VOLTE so I need a new phone and this seems much nicer then the new Samsung.

pseriesjim said:
That's good to know because ATT is basically trying to force me to buy one of maybe 3 phones. I wish I could keep my P30 Pro but I cant seem to get the update that enables VOLTE so I need a new phone and this seems much nicer then the new Samsung.
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Just have to know the phone dialer codes and your phone will run both VoLTE and VoWiFi. Just do a Google search for them.

jim262 said:
Just have to know the phone dialer codes and your phone will run both VoLTE and VoWiFi. Just do a Google search for them.
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I tried that already, I don't see any codes to unlock the options on my phone. I think the APN is part of the problem. I was told to use NXTGENPHONE. Further research shows that ATT doesn't allow any thing they don't approve to use VoLTE or VoWiFi regardless if the phone has the feature. Unless you know a sneaky way around this, I suspect the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra won't work either.

pseriesjim said:
I tried that already, I don't see any codes to unlock the options on my phone. I think the APN is part of the problem. I was told to use NXTGENPHONE.
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Here are the code for xiaomi:
VoLTE *#*#86583#*#*
VoWiFi/WLAN *#*#869434#*#*

jim262 said:
Here are the code for xiaomi:
VoLTE *#*#86583#*#*
VoWiFi/WLAN *#*#869434#*#*
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Those codes bypass ATT verifying the phone and enable the features?

pseriesjim said:
Those codes bypass ATT verifying the phone and enable the features?
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Yes. That's what they do for all carriers, I believe.

jim262 said:
Yes. That's what they do for all carriers, I believe.
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I just want to confirm that you have the global rom version and not the Chinese rom. I'd hate to spend $1,000 on a phone that only works for 6 months

I bought the Chinese version and have tried all roms, but settled on the rom from Xiaomi.eu as there are far more features and less bloat. BTW, the Chinese variant now sells for around $900 from Giztop for the base model. I bought my 12/256 for $1045 when it was first released. I heard the Global variant was selling as high as $1300. Considerable savings going with the China variant, waiting a week, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another rom.

jim262 said:
I bought the Chinese version and have tried all roms, but settled on the rom from Xiaomi.eu as there are far more features and less bloat. BTW, the Chinese variant now sells for around $900 from Giztop for the base model. I bought my 12/256 for $1045 when it was first released. I heard the Global variant was selling as high as $1300. Considerable savings going with the China variant, waiting a week, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another rom.
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I've been reading that having the Chinese version causes issues with AT&T specifically and no one can seem to confirm that having either rom will work with ATT after the 3g shutdown. My current phone, the Huawei p30 Pro is the global version that had the most ATT frequencies of the p30 series but apparently the only version that doesn't have VOLTE. I just don't want to spend $1,000 on a new phone that has no guarantee of working after the shutdown or even on the 5g network. According to the frequency lists online, the Chinese version doesn't support ATT 5g. Is there any difference in hardware between the global and Chinese variant or is the only difference the ROM installed on it? Meaning does the rom determine the frequencies supported?

pseriesjim said:
I've been reading that having the Chinese version causes issues with AT&T specifically and no one can seem to confirm that having either rom will work with ATT after the 3g shutdown. My current phone, the Huawei p30 Pro is the global version that had the most ATT frequencies of the p30 series but apparently the only version that doesn't have VOLTE. I just don't want to spend $1,000 on a new phone that has no guarantee of working after the shutdown or even on the 5g network. According to the frequency lists online, the Chinese version doesn't support ATT 5g. Is there any difference in hardware between the global and Chinese variant or is the only difference the ROM installed on it? Meaning does the rom determine the frequencies supported?
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The hardware on the Chinese version and the Global are exactly the same. If you wish to spend more money, go right ahead. But I would buy the Chinese variant, wait a week, unlock the bootloader and flash to global rom.

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The hardware on the Chinese version and the Global are exactly the same. If you wish to spend more money, go right ahead. But I would buy the Chinese variant, wait a week, unlock the bootloader and flash to global rom.
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Saving money is what I'm all about. Do you know of a guide to flashing the rom? I've never used twrp or any of that sort of software. Any guides on this phone specifically would be great.

So I found a YouTube video that seems pretty straight forward:
After you flashed the new rom does your phone auto update? Can you go to settings and get updates through the GUI or do you manually have to connect it to the PC and flash it each time ?

pseriesjim said:
Saving money is what I'm all about. Do you know of a guide to flashing the rom? I've never used twrp or any of that sort of software. Any guides on this phone specifically would be great.
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The guides are for stock on the Xiaomi site and for the custom rom Xiaomi.eu or on this website. Just got to look.

pseriesjim said:
So I found a YouTube video that seems pretty straight forward:
After you flashed the new rom does your phone auto update? Can you go to settings and get updates through the GUI or do you manually have to connect it to the PC and flash it each time ?
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YES, it recieves OTAs

Here's the link for the Xiaomi stock roms. https://c.mi.com//miuidownload/detail?device=1900395
Here is the info for the Xiaomi.eu rom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...mi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-11-pro-ultra.4260617/

I decided not to buy the phone after speaking with a few people from AT&T. They informed me that the way AT&T will be deploying the mandatory VOLTE would render the phone useless based on their encryption. Because the phone is not white listed they will not send the required encryption to the phone so VOLTE would not activate after the 3G shutdown and if it somehow was activated before, they would deactivate it on the shutdown date. It is really proving that living here in the US is not a great as it once was. We are now being forced to pick 1 of 3 phone companies. Apple, Samsung or the google Pixel. I assume since they paid the most in back end deals. All of which I hate. Looks like
I'll be hacking/rooting a Samsung. If anyone knows of a theme to make a Samsung look like a Huawei, please post it here. Very disappointed to lose my IR blaster and all the better various hardware that these overseas phones have to offer. Uncle Sam said no.

pseriesjim said:
I decided not to buy the phone after speaking with a few people from AT&T. They informed me that the way AT&T will be deploying the mandatory VOLTE would render the phone useless based on their encryption. Because the phone is not white listed they will not send the required encryption to the phone so VOLTE would not activate after the 3G shutdown and if it somehow was activated before, they would deactivate it on the shutdown date. It is really proving that living here in the US is not a great as it once was. We are now being forced to pick 1 of 3 phone companies. Apple, Samsung or the google Pixel. I assume since they paid the most in back end deals. All of which I hate. Looks like
I'll be hacking/rooting a Samsung. If anyone knows of a theme to make a Samsung look like a Huawei, please post it here. Very disappointed to lose my IR blaster and all the better various hardware that these overseas phones have to offer. Uncle Sam said no.
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FIrst of all, I would switch networks. No question on that one, as they are trying to force you to buy the phones that they sell. Also, if you are using a Snapdragon variant of a Samsung used in the United States, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader and/or root it. That is only possible on the exynos variants, which are probably not whitelisted on AT&T.