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Bad T-Mobile!

T-Mobile just keeps dropping the ball with the LG-G4.
After continually blaming LG for "The lack of a Marshmallow (6.0) update" and with LG saying it's in T-Mobiles hands. LG has rolled out a 2nd 6.0 update to Poland.
Way to go T-Slow-mobile!

fishman0919 said:
T-Mobile just keeps dropping the ball with the LG-G4.
After continually blaming LG for "The lack of a Marshmallow (6.0) update" and with LG saying it's in T-Mobiles hands. LG has rolled out a 2nd 6.0 update to Poland.
Way to go T-Slow-mobile!
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For some reason Poland always gets the updates first. When I had the SGS5, Poland saw 2 5.0 updates first before we did. I guess they are letting them work out all the bugs

fishman0919 said:
T-Mobile just keeps dropping the ball with the LG-G4.
After continually blaming LG for "The lack of a Marshmallow (6.0) update" and with LG saying it's in T-Mobiles hands. LG has rolled out a 2nd 6.0 update to Poland.
Way to go T-Slow-mobile!
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Most rumors i hear say that 6.0 is causing them to have to revamp wifi calling to work with the new system...from what i know of it wifi calling is what typically causes slow updates from tmo...also they are not blaming lg...they have had the update from lg the same amount of time everyone else has but are taking a long time to integrate their changes...it has been showing that it's in testing for months now on their site

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Most rumors i hear say that 6.0 is causing them to have to revamp wifi calling to work with the new system...from what i know of it wifi calling is what typically causes slow updates from tmo...also they are not blaming lg...they have had the update from lg the same amount of time everyone else has but are taking a long time to integrate their changes...it has been showing that it's in testing for months now on their site
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I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case, too. Wife has a Nexus 5X and the Wifi calling implementation in that phone has issues with SMS when Wifi calling is enabled.

esjames said:
For some reason Poland always gets the updates first. When I had the SGS5, Poland saw 2 5.0 updates first before we did. I guess they are letting them work out all the bugs
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I believe LG's research center is in Poland. That seems to make sense to research nearby areas than further away places in case things go bad. Easier to put out fires next to you than a mile away with the water bucket.

Just be happy tmobile doesn't roll out updates like sprint does. I'm a service and repair technician for sprint. I've seen so many G4's hardware fail when updating to M. Be appreciative to the fact that tmobile wants to make sure their update is a stable improvement and not a buggy disaster. Because sprint has a lot of that going on. Lol
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They should release a version without WiFi calling. I don't even use that crap.

Alexsha said:
They should release a version without WiFi calling. I don't even use that crap.
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Many of us do...so be patient...i live in a dead zone for all carriers and rely on wifi calling...it would be a total disservice to many users to update without wifi calling

jamesd1085 said:
Many of us do...so be patient...i live in a dead zone for all carriers and rely on wifi calling...it would be a total disservice to many users to update without wifi calling
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I'm quite patient. Just saying many of us don't use WiFi calling. It wouldnt be much trouble to release without it then patch in later.

Google Voice as SMS > ANY Wi-Fi calling.

fishman0919 said:
T-Mobile just keeps dropping the ball with the LG-G4.
After continually blaming LG for "The lack of a Marshmallow (6.0) update" and with LG saying it's in T-Mobiles hands. LG has rolled out a 2nd 6.0 update to Poland.
Way to go T-Slow-mobile!
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So...you are complaining that a US carrier has not updated their firmware to what somewhere in Europe has in spite of it being a well known fact that US carrier branded phones usually take months longer to update than the unbranded phones in other parts of the world? This is something that is well known since the beginning of Android. The process goes: The pure google code is released, the manufacturer adapts it to their devices, it gets released to unbranded phones, it is also sent to branded carriers to add all of their crap to it, then it is sent back and forth between the manufacturer and carrier until it works flawlessly including updating and converting all data, including carrier bloat in an OTA package. This is then tested on a predetermined batch of test phones. Then when the carrier is happy with the OTA, then they decide when is the best time to release it and request time on Google servers to do so. It is also kind of selfish to say "Just give me the version without wifi calling since I don't use it anyway" without thinking of the million tech calls and posts they get about wifi calling not working. Also do not believe anyone you talk to in any customer service of LG or T-Mobile...they do not know what is going on and are told what to say. I could tell you some stories of some of the stupid answers I have seen from customer service reps. It actually looks like AT&T and Verizon are in the same boat as you guys...no MM yet.
If you or anyone are the type of person that needs the latest software that Google spits out and like being a beta tester for them, then why have you not purchased one of the Nexus devices with immediate updates and no carrier branding or bloat? They work great on T-Mobile and band 12. I went Nexus 6P in Sprint myself and will never go back to a branded phone.

Mikekelso421 said:
Just be happy tmobile doesn't roll out updates like sprint does. I'm a service and repair technician for sprint. I've seen so many G4's hardware fail when updating to M. Be appreciative to the fact that tmobile wants to make sure their update is a stable improvement and not a buggy disaster. Because sprint has a lot of that going on. Lol
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The hardware failure has nothing to do with software updating. LG has released a statement recognizing that there is a problem with manufacturing; they blame a loose component connection.
As for the T-Mobile testing status: it has not changed from "Manufacturer Development" yet. T-Mobile is not officially conducting tests on the update yet.
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KennyG123 said:
So...you are complaining that a US carrier has not updated their firmware to what somewhere in Europe has in spite of it being a well known fact that US carrier branded phones usually take months longer to update than the unbranded phones in other parts of the world? This is something that is well known since the beginning of Android. The process goes: The pure google code is released, the manufacturer adapts it to their devices, it gets released to unbranded phones, it is also sent to branded carriers to add all of their crap to it, then it is sent back and forth between the manufacturer and carrier until it works flawlessly including updating and converting all data, including carrier bloat in an OTA package. This is then tested on a predetermined batch of test phones. Then when the carrier is happy with the OTA, then they decide when is the best time to release it and request time on Google servers to do so. It is also kind of selfish to say "Just give me the version without wifi calling since I don't use it anyway" without thinking of the million tech calls and posts they get about wifi calling not working. Also do not believe anyone you talk to in any customer service of LG or T-Mobile...they do not know what is going on and are told what to say. I could tell you some stories of some of the stupid answers I have seen from customer service reps. It actually looks like AT&T and Verizon are in the same boat as you guys...no MM yet.
If you or anyone are the type of person that needs the latest software that Google spits out and like being a beta tester for them, then why have you not purchased one of the Nexus devices with immediate updates and no carrier branding or bloat? They work great on T-Mobile and band 12. I went Nexus 6P in Sprint myself and will never go back to a branded phone.
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Yes, I'm sorry. I really didn't complete or finish my rant. I do understand how the update, testing and all works with T-Mobile. Being an employee, I know the stance T-Mobile is taking... "Not our fault!" T-Mobile is tell us that the update is not available from LG but we all know it is. Everything is ready but they simply won't start the process. So went I said "T-Slow-mobile!" it was coming from knowing and frustration.

dclaw_fantum said:
The hardware failure has nothing to do with software updating. LG has released a statement recognizing that there is a problem with manufacturing; they blame a loose component connection.
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Fortunately, mine (both G4 and V10) don't have such problem.

fishman0919 said:
Yes, I'm sorry. I really didn't complete or finish my rant. I do understand how the update, testing and all works with T-Mobile. Being an employee, I know the stance T-Mobile is taking... "Not our fault!" T-Mobile is tell us that the update is not available from LG but we all know it is. Everything is ready but they simply won't start the process. So went I said "T-Slow-mobile!" it was coming from knowing and frustration.
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Ah, yes. I see now. So someone has let you know that the full OTA package has been fully tested and just waiting for them to say "go?" That could be a bit frustrating. I hate to say it but they may be waiting until the G5 release at the end of February. I hope that is not it and they just want to gear up their tech support for any issues that might arise.

I laugh every time I read one of these posts where people complain about not getting carrier updates quick enough to suit them. It's usually the same people that will complain about too many bugs on quickly released software.
You want immediate updates? Buy a nexus.
You want quick updates? Buy global, not carrier models.
You want a carrier model? Quit complaining about how long it takes them to release software updates.
Carriers always have been considerably behind the global "unlocked" models on software updates. It will always be that way, and for good reason.
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Thunder_PC said:
I laugh every time I read one of these posts where people complain about not getting carrier updates quick enough to suit them. It's usually the same people that will complain about too many bugs on quickly released software.
You want immediate updates? Buy a nexus.
You want quick updates? Buy global, not carrier models.
You want a carrier model? Quit complaining about how long it takes them to release software updates.
Carriers always have been considerably behind the global "unlocked" models on software updates. It will always be that way, and for good reason.
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The same type of person who would complain about every custom ROM and battery life and custom kernel settings and unnecessary governors aaaaaaand don't forget he wants YOU to make a step by step tutorial just for HIM. I swear man you hit the target with this one...I've been around since the htc g2, the nexus 4, galaxy s4, xperia z1, and now lg g4 and these types of people never go away.

Alexsha said:
They should release a version without WiFi calling. I don't even use that crap.
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Absolutely. It's kinda pointless

It's your fault.
Want regular security updates? Buy a Nexus.
Want recent bug fixes? Buy a Nexus.
Want clear communication from LG or T-Mobile? Buy a Nexus.
Don't like the Nexus design? Buy a Nexus.
Remember folks, you need to make sure that you live within the constraints set by T-Mobile and LG for the G4. It's your fault for wanting things like regular updates or clear communication.
After all, you're paying them.

WiFi Calling vs Android 6.0
jamesd1085 said:
Many of us do...so be patient...i live in a dead zone for all carriers and rely on wifi calling...it would be a total disservice to many users to update without wifi calling
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WiFi calling doesn't work very well for me. I am in a bad cell phone zone area also.
However, I always use WiFi at home to save data.
In the big picture, what is more important, Android 6.0 ir WiFi calling ?
I had Lollipop 5.1.1 on my LG G3 and it worked great.
Most people don't remember the fact that 5.1.1 has a search function while in Settings.
I found that extremely helpful for me. And it had the PIE submenu.
I think LG shortchanged everybody by not rolling out 5.1.1 on the G4.
When you consider that the manufacturers don't usually support a particular model for more than 2 years,
it totally sucks that they haven't upgraded the G4 for over 6 months!

Questions Before Buying XZ1 Compact

I’m about to purchase a XZ1 Compact and have some questions before jumping onboard the Xperia bandwagon;
1a) The phone supports UMTS 1700/2100, Bands 4, 7, 13 and 66, all of which are what I need for Freedom Mobile (Wind) compatibility. As far as I know, LTE switching on the Freedom network is buggy unless the phone is flashed with the larger XZ1 firmware. Does this void warranty?
1b) If I receive an OTA update to Android 8.1 for the phone and it’s already had it’s firmware flashed, will I need to reflash the firmware from the XZ1?
1c) Does a factory reset also reset the flashed firmware?
1d) Any video tutorials on how to do this? Visual There’s this reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/freedommob...uide_xpost_rsonyxperia_modifying_xz1_compact/ But an on-screen step-by-step would be best.
2) Does EIS still work in 3rd party camera apps like Camera FV-5? If so, is the quality in third party apps on par with Sony’s stock application?
3) Does the use of Nova Launcher allow me to swap app icons to stock Android icons?
4) With the nearing Mobile World Congress next month and some rumored devices, what is the chance of a XZ2 Compact being announced next month? I’m feeling like if I bite the bullet now and get the XZ1 Compact, I might regret if a successor was announced soon.
5) When connecting the phone to a Mac, does mounting the MicroSD card on Macs display it as an external drive or do I still have to use Android File Transfer?

ungraphic said:
1a) The phone supports UMTS 1700/2100, Bands 4, 7, 13 and 66, all of which are what I need for Freedom Mobile (Wind) compatibility. As far as I know, LTE switching on the Freedom network is buggy unless the phone is flashed with the larger XZ1 firmware. Does this void warranty?
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Making modifications to the firmware, especially involving flashing firmware from a different model, definitely voids warranty.
If you ever need warranty service, just flash clean original stock firmware, and you should be good to go.
1b) If I receive an OTA update to Android 8.1 for the phone and it’s already had it’s firmware flashed, will I need to reflash the firmware from the XZ1?
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You'll likely be unable to install OTA updates since your firmware would be modified (assuming you followed the guide). You will still get update notifications though, but attempts to install will fail.
If you do wish to update, you'd probably have to manually do so using Xperia Companion or a third-party tool like flashtool or newflasher, then apply the modifications again.
1c) Does a factory reset also reset the flashed firmware?
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No, it stays on the same version, just with all your data wiped.
1d) Any video tutorials on how to do this? Visual There’s this reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/freedommob...uide_xpost_rsonyxperia_modifying_xz1_compact/ But an on-screen step-by-step would be best.
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Doubt it, sounds like an extremely niche use case.
2) Does EIS still work in 3rd party camera apps like Camera FV-5? If so, is the quality in third party apps on par with Sony’s stock application?
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Not sure, but given how locked down their camera is and Sony's love for keeping proprietary stuff off-limits, I won't bet on it.
4) With the nearing Mobile World Congress next month and some rumored devices, what is the chance of a XZ2 Compact being announced next month? I’m feeling like if I bite the bullet now and get the XZ1 Compact, I might regret if a successor was announced soon.
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I'm willing to bet good money on "NO". History has shown the compact variant usually announced and released in the bottom half of the year on a yearly basis.
So you'd be enjoying the latest and greatest compact for at least another six months.
EDIT: Welp, just heard a rumor that may cause me to lose my bet, so I'm going to redact my previous comment.
According to the rumor, they might be announcing a new compact at MWC 2018, which is about a month from now. However, suppose they do, it'll probably be weeks if not months until it's actually released and available, so you'll have to decide if it's worth it to wait that long, there's also the possibility that the rumor is false.
The way I see it, the XZ1C is a top of the line phone, a newer model isn't going to suddenly make it obsolete, it will still perform like a champ.
Not to mention the trend of Sony removing features from their phones compared to the previous generation, the rumored new compact might be gimped even more than the XZ1C, maybe it'll lose the headphone jack or something, hard to say.

ungraphic said:
I’m about to purchase a XZ1 Compact and have some questions before jumping onboard the Xperia bandwagon;
1a) The phone supports UMTS 1700/2100, Bands 4, 7, 13 and 66, all of which are what I need for Freedom Mobile (Wind) compatibility. As far as I know, LTE switching on the Freedom network is buggy unless the phone is flashed with the larger XZ1 firmware. Does this void warranty?
1b) If I receive an OTA update to Android 8.1 for the phone and it’s already had it’s firmware flashed, will I need to reflash the firmware from the XZ1?
1c) Does a factory reset also reset the flashed firmware?
1d) Any video tutorials on how to do this? Visual There’s this reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/freedommob...uide_xpost_rsonyxperia_modifying_xz1_compact/ But an on-screen step-by-step would be best.
2) Does EIS still work in 3rd party camera apps like Camera FV-5? If so, is the quality in third party apps on par with Sony’s stock application?
3) Does the use of Nova Launcher allow me to swap app icons to stock Android icons?
4) With the nearing Mobile World Congress next month and some rumored devices, what is the chance of a XZ2 Compact being announced next month? I’m feeling like if I bite the bullet now and get the XZ1 Compact, I might regret if a successor was announced soon.
5) When connecting the phone to a Mac, does mounting the MicroSD card on Macs display it as an external drive or do I still have to use Android File Transfer?
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Wow, so many questions.
It's the best compact that Sony have made.
Buy it.

Both Xperia Companion and Android File Transfer will mount the internal storage and the SD card in an application-specific window. To the best of my knowledge, you cannot mount the phone and SD card directly in the Mac Finder, as you can using Windows Explorer.

mhaha said:
Making modifications to the firmware, especially involving flashing firmware from a different model, definitely voids warranty.
If you ever need warranty service, just flash clean original stock firmware, and you should be good to go.
You'll likely be unable to install OTA updates since your firmware would be modified (assuming you followed the guide). You will still get update notifications though, but attempts to install will fail.
If you do wish to update, you'd probably have to manually do so using Xperia Companion or a third-party tool like flashtool or newflasher, then apply the modifications again.
No, it stays on the same version, just with all your data wiped.
Doubt it, sounds like an extremely niche use case.
Not sure, but given how locked down their camera is and Sony's love for keeping proprietary stuff off-limits, I won't bet on it.
I'm willing to bet good money on "NO". History has shown the compact variant usually announced and released in the bottom half of the year on a yearly basis.
So you'd be enjoying the latest and greatest compact for at least another six months.
EDIT: Welp, just heard a rumor that may cause me to lose my bet, so I'm going to redact my previous comment.
According to the rumor, they might be announcing a new compact at MWC 2018, which is about a month from now. However, suppose they do, it'll probably be weeks if not months until it's actually released and available, so you'll have to decide if it's worth it to wait that long, there's also the possibility that the rumor is false.
The way I see it, the XZ1C is a top of the line phone, a newer model isn't going to suddenly make it obsolete, it will still perform like a champ.
Not to mention the trend of Sony removing features from their phones compared to the previous generation, the rumored new compact might be gimped even more than the XZ1C, maybe it'll lose the headphone jack or something, hard to say.
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Thank you! There was some news today that the 'compact' is supposed to be a budget model with a taller 5" screen and still with bezels. Here's the news:
https://www.gsmarena.com/an_189_son...have_been_certified_by_the_fcc-news-29402.php
Reddit discussion:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/7uay7u/189_sony_xperia_compact_certified_by_the_fcc/
Mockup new phone compared to XZ1 Compact:
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Given the sizing, I'm out. I'd wait if it kept the form factor but increased the screen size... OR kept the screen size and shrunk the phone. Also, not a fan of 18:9 ratio.

[Bounty] Galaxy Note 9 Snapdragon Bootloader Unlock

I create a gofundme in the hopes to encourage a dev to find a way to unlock the bootloader on the note 9 Snapdragon
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Not...gonna...happen

This is impossible without Samsung's signatures that's used when creating their proprietary firmware, including bootloaders. And this has NEVER been leaked or otherwise been made available to the public and never will be. Once a locked bootloader is flashed onto the phone at the factory, it is impossible to flash unofficial firmware, recoveries or bootloaders. Only official firmware with correct signatures can be flashed. If this was doable, there's lots of capable people out there who would have already been on top of this. The only thing that might help would be a leaked engineering firmware which is official but not fully functional and most likely wouldn't be unlocked anyway. Going off past experience with the leaked engineering bootloaders and kernels. which where problematic for daily use. I hope this helps you understand a bit more about this topic.

Unfortunately SOL....

Thank you for your explanation tx. Then our only shred of hope is a leaked firmware. Disappointing when you pay that much money and you get a locked bootloader, I which they had a dev version like HTC does sometimes

anasrocks said:
Thank you for your explanation tx. Then our only shred of hope is a leaked firmware. Disappointing when you pay that much money and you get a locked bootloader, I which they had a dev version like HTC does sometimes
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It's not disappointing though. You buy it knowing it's a locked bootloader.
You want to unlock the bootloader? By a N960F or a N9600.

I believe the lte bands are weaker on those models compared to the US version, at least that's what I saw on frequency check website. Correct me if I am wrong

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I believe the lte bands are weaker on those models compared to the US version, at least that's what I saw on frequency check website. Correct me if I am wrong
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I honestly have no idea. If you do some searching here, there's plenty of discussion of using the N960F and the N9600 on US carriers.

1st phone ive had where im not worried bout it being locked especially since im able to flash the u1 firmware which gets rid of all the carrier bloat..i dont need wifi calling or video calling.

MrDSL said:
1st phone ive had where im not worried bout it being locked especially since im able to flash the u1 firmware which gets rid of all the carrier bloat..i dont need wifi calling or video calling.
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Yup, last phone I unlocked the bootloader on was the S7 Edge Exynos. Well I bought it used and the bootloader was already unlocked. From there I switched back to Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL. Didn't unlock on either of those. Since then I've had an S8+, Note 8, Pixel 2XL, and now the Note 9. Didn't even care about bootloaders on any of them.
And WiFi calling works on T-Mo with the U1 firmware as does VoLTE. I use Google Voice and Hangouts, so video calling from the stock dialer doesn't work for me anyway.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Yup, last phone I unlocked the bootloader on was the S7 Edge Exynos. Well I bought it used and the bootloader was already unlocked. From there I switched back to Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL. Didn't unlock on either of those. Since then I've had an S8+, Note 8, Pixel 2XL, and now the Note 9. Didn't even care about bootloaders on any of them.
And WiFi calling works on T-Mo with the U1 firmware as does VoLTE. I use Google Voice and Hangouts, so video calling from the stock dialer doesn't work for me anyway.
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I still had my 6P hehe...i dont even like talking on the phone let alone video lol

Honestly the only thing I miss now with having a non-rooted phone is the ability to do full app backups. It kills me, in this day and age, that there is no way in Android to backup/restore all app data. Everything else about rooting for me was about fixing issues (battery, interface, tethering etc), which are all kinda non-issues now. Would be nice to completely uninstall apps, but disabling them works too.
I'm also not going to buy the inferior Exynox just so i can root it to make it slightly better, but less great, than the Snapdragon variant. Rooting also kills a lot of features and apps.
My $0.02

MrDSL said:
1st phone ive had where im not worried bout it being locked especially since im able to flash the u1 firmware which gets rid of all the carrier bloat..i dont need wifi calling or video calling.
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I have the U1 and it has WiFi calling. Is it different if you have to flash it?

chetly968 said:
I have the U1 and it has WiFi calling. Is it different if you have to flash it?
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It's not available for all carriers in the U1 firmware. As far as I know, only T-Mo supports WiFi calling on the U1.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
It's not available for all carriers in the U1 firmware. As far as I know, only T-Mo supports WiFi calling on the U1.
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Does the stock dialer not work with US carriers when using the U1 firmware?

chetly968 said:
I have the U1 and it has WiFi calling. Is it different if you have to flash it?
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with at&t? i think its because it doesnt have the at&t stuff for wifi calling and video

ogretech said:
Does the stock dialer not work with US carriers when using the U1 firmware?
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Yes it uses the stock dialer, but it doesn't support video calling or VoLTE. If you have T-Mo it DOES support WiFi calling and VoLTE, but not video calling.

Am I missing something? Isn't this thread about installing a custom recovery and unlocking a Snapdragon Note 9?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ecovery-twrp-galaxy-note9-snapdragon-t3845536

robsmith11 said:
Am I missing something? Isn't this thread about installing a custom recovery and unlocking a Snapdragon Note 9?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ecovery-twrp-galaxy-note9-snapdragon-t3845536
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You're missing that it's for the 9600, which is a Snapdragon, not the 960U. Samsung allows the 9600 to be bootloader unlocked. They don't allow rhr 960U to be bootloader unlocked.

Stupid question , but ...
How did i know, is my boot-]loader locked or not ?
Look at attached picture.
Is any of this records can tell me that ?
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Question Global Version AT&T After 3G Shutdown

I see the global version supports wifi calling and VOLTE and has as much band support as my Huawei P30 Pro so the coverage should be fine but will this phone actually work on AT&T after the 3g shutdown? I've read forums where people "call" *#somenumbers*#" and it lets them turn on VOLTE without the carrier checking compatibility. Any advice or input would be great. I really hate iPhones and Samsungs which seems to be all US carriers want to support.

pseriesjim said:
I see the global version supports wifi calling and VOLTE and has as much band support as my Huawei P30 Pro so the coverage should be fine but will this phone actually work on AT&T after the 3g shutdown? I've read forums where people "call" *#somenumbers*#" and it lets them turn on VOLTE without the carrier checking compatibility. Any advice or input would be great. I really hate iPhones and Samsungs which seems to be all US carriers want to support.
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I'm on Tmobile works perfectly on 4G LTE. 3G isn't an issue as that only applies to phones that rely on 3G data and Yes, VoLTE works!

That's good to know because ATT is basically trying to force me to buy one of maybe 3 phones. I wish I could keep my P30 Pro but I cant seem to get the update that enables VOLTE so I need a new phone and this seems much nicer then the new Samsung.

pseriesjim said:
That's good to know because ATT is basically trying to force me to buy one of maybe 3 phones. I wish I could keep my P30 Pro but I cant seem to get the update that enables VOLTE so I need a new phone and this seems much nicer then the new Samsung.
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Just have to know the phone dialer codes and your phone will run both VoLTE and VoWiFi. Just do a Google search for them.

jim262 said:
Just have to know the phone dialer codes and your phone will run both VoLTE and VoWiFi. Just do a Google search for them.
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I tried that already, I don't see any codes to unlock the options on my phone. I think the APN is part of the problem. I was told to use NXTGENPHONE. Further research shows that ATT doesn't allow any thing they don't approve to use VoLTE or VoWiFi regardless if the phone has the feature. Unless you know a sneaky way around this, I suspect the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra won't work either.

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I tried that already, I don't see any codes to unlock the options on my phone. I think the APN is part of the problem. I was told to use NXTGENPHONE.
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Here are the code for xiaomi:
VoLTE *#*#86583#*#*
VoWiFi/WLAN *#*#869434#*#*

jim262 said:
Here are the code for xiaomi:
VoLTE *#*#86583#*#*
VoWiFi/WLAN *#*#869434#*#*
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Those codes bypass ATT verifying the phone and enable the features?

pseriesjim said:
Those codes bypass ATT verifying the phone and enable the features?
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Yes. That's what they do for all carriers, I believe.

jim262 said:
Yes. That's what they do for all carriers, I believe.
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I just want to confirm that you have the global rom version and not the Chinese rom. I'd hate to spend $1,000 on a phone that only works for 6 months

I bought the Chinese version and have tried all roms, but settled on the rom from Xiaomi.eu as there are far more features and less bloat. BTW, the Chinese variant now sells for around $900 from Giztop for the base model. I bought my 12/256 for $1045 when it was first released. I heard the Global variant was selling as high as $1300. Considerable savings going with the China variant, waiting a week, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another rom.

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I bought the Chinese version and have tried all roms, but settled on the rom from Xiaomi.eu as there are far more features and less bloat. BTW, the Chinese variant now sells for around $900 from Giztop for the base model. I bought my 12/256 for $1045 when it was first released. I heard the Global variant was selling as high as $1300. Considerable savings going with the China variant, waiting a week, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another rom.
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I've been reading that having the Chinese version causes issues with AT&T specifically and no one can seem to confirm that having either rom will work with ATT after the 3g shutdown. My current phone, the Huawei p30 Pro is the global version that had the most ATT frequencies of the p30 series but apparently the only version that doesn't have VOLTE. I just don't want to spend $1,000 on a new phone that has no guarantee of working after the shutdown or even on the 5g network. According to the frequency lists online, the Chinese version doesn't support ATT 5g. Is there any difference in hardware between the global and Chinese variant or is the only difference the ROM installed on it? Meaning does the rom determine the frequencies supported?

pseriesjim said:
I've been reading that having the Chinese version causes issues with AT&T specifically and no one can seem to confirm that having either rom will work with ATT after the 3g shutdown. My current phone, the Huawei p30 Pro is the global version that had the most ATT frequencies of the p30 series but apparently the only version that doesn't have VOLTE. I just don't want to spend $1,000 on a new phone that has no guarantee of working after the shutdown or even on the 5g network. According to the frequency lists online, the Chinese version doesn't support ATT 5g. Is there any difference in hardware between the global and Chinese variant or is the only difference the ROM installed on it? Meaning does the rom determine the frequencies supported?
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The hardware on the Chinese version and the Global are exactly the same. If you wish to spend more money, go right ahead. But I would buy the Chinese variant, wait a week, unlock the bootloader and flash to global rom.

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The hardware on the Chinese version and the Global are exactly the same. If you wish to spend more money, go right ahead. But I would buy the Chinese variant, wait a week, unlock the bootloader and flash to global rom.
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Saving money is what I'm all about. Do you know of a guide to flashing the rom? I've never used twrp or any of that sort of software. Any guides on this phone specifically would be great.

So I found a YouTube video that seems pretty straight forward:
After you flashed the new rom does your phone auto update? Can you go to settings and get updates through the GUI or do you manually have to connect it to the PC and flash it each time ?

pseriesjim said:
Saving money is what I'm all about. Do you know of a guide to flashing the rom? I've never used twrp or any of that sort of software. Any guides on this phone specifically would be great.
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The guides are for stock on the Xiaomi site and for the custom rom Xiaomi.eu or on this website. Just got to look.

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So I found a YouTube video that seems pretty straight forward:
After you flashed the new rom does your phone auto update? Can you go to settings and get updates through the GUI or do you manually have to connect it to the PC and flash it each time ?
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YES, it recieves OTAs

Here's the link for the Xiaomi stock roms. https://c.mi.com//miuidownload/detail?device=1900395
Here is the info for the Xiaomi.eu rom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...mi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-11-pro-ultra.4260617/

I decided not to buy the phone after speaking with a few people from AT&T. They informed me that the way AT&T will be deploying the mandatory VOLTE would render the phone useless based on their encryption. Because the phone is not white listed they will not send the required encryption to the phone so VOLTE would not activate after the 3G shutdown and if it somehow was activated before, they would deactivate it on the shutdown date. It is really proving that living here in the US is not a great as it once was. We are now being forced to pick 1 of 3 phone companies. Apple, Samsung or the google Pixel. I assume since they paid the most in back end deals. All of which I hate. Looks like
I'll be hacking/rooting a Samsung. If anyone knows of a theme to make a Samsung look like a Huawei, please post it here. Very disappointed to lose my IR blaster and all the better various hardware that these overseas phones have to offer. Uncle Sam said no.

pseriesjim said:
I decided not to buy the phone after speaking with a few people from AT&T. They informed me that the way AT&T will be deploying the mandatory VOLTE would render the phone useless based on their encryption. Because the phone is not white listed they will not send the required encryption to the phone so VOLTE would not activate after the 3G shutdown and if it somehow was activated before, they would deactivate it on the shutdown date. It is really proving that living here in the US is not a great as it once was. We are now being forced to pick 1 of 3 phone companies. Apple, Samsung or the google Pixel. I assume since they paid the most in back end deals. All of which I hate. Looks like
I'll be hacking/rooting a Samsung. If anyone knows of a theme to make a Samsung look like a Huawei, please post it here. Very disappointed to lose my IR blaster and all the better various hardware that these overseas phones have to offer. Uncle Sam said no.
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FIrst of all, I would switch networks. No question on that one, as they are trying to force you to buy the phones that they sell. Also, if you are using a Snapdragon variant of a Samsung used in the United States, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader and/or root it. That is only possible on the exynos variants, which are probably not whitelisted on AT&T.

Great to join the club!!

Hey guys! I have been scouting around for Note 8 help but thought it was time to join myself.
Hopefully if I am able to solve my specific problem or get my questions asked it can help someone else.
Specifically, right now, I picked up and refurbished a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 since I have one currently that is phenominal, and wanted one in the back pocket in case anything happens but it is locked to ATT, which isnt the real problem. The real problem is that it is still on Android 7.1.1 and I would like to get it to Android 9 Pie.
I am unsure of a few things like whether I need all updates between 7 and 9, or if I can jump straight to it. But things of that sort.
It sucks that its ATT locked but I feel its worse that its on old Android since I refurbed it, (fixed screen and replaced with fresh samsung battery) but its being held back in certain functional capabilities. Either way, I am a techy, not yet able to solder, but definitely able to troubleshoot my way around a Windows Blue screen of death.
Looking forward to learnin more!

MethudMann said:
Hey guys! I have been scouting around for Note 8 help but thought it was time to join myself.
Hopefully if I am able to solve my specific problem or get my questions asked it can help someone else.
Specifically, right now, I picked up and refurbished a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 since I have one currently that is phenominal, and wanted one in the back pocket in case anything happens but it is locked to ATT, which isnt the real problem. The real problem is that it is still on Android 7.1.1 and I would like to get it to Android 9 Pie.
I am unsure of a few things like whether I need all updates between 7 and 9, or if I can jump straight to it. But things of that sort.
It sucks that its ATT locked but I feel its worse that its on old Android since I refurbed it, (fixed screen and replaced with fresh samsung battery) but its being held back in certain functional capabilities. Either way, I am a techy, not yet able to solder, but definitely able to troubleshoot my way around a Windows Blue screen of death.
Looking forward to learnin more!
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Welcome to XDA! As for updating your phone, could you please tell me your model number?

ethical_haquer said:
Welcome to XDA! As for updating your phone, could you please tell me your model number?
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Yeah, sorry for long response time.
For the important info:
Model: SM-N950U
Android. 7.1.1
Build:NMF26X.N950USQU1AQH7
CSC: ATT

I'll monitor more closely so let me know if you need any other info

MethudMann said:
Yeah, sorry for long response time.
For the important info:
Model: SM-N950U
Android. 7.1.1
Build:NMF26X.N950USQU1AQH7
CSC: ATT
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Alright, there are two versions of firmware available for your device. One is "branded" and has carrier bloat, whereas the other does not have carrier bloat but might have issues with VoLTE (probably not, but there is a chance). What one would you prefer? Let me know if you have any questions regarding the difference.

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Alright, there are two versions of firmware available for your device. One is "branded" and has carrier bloat, whereas the other does not have carrier bloat but might have issues with VoLTE (probably not, but there is a chance). What one would you prefer? Let me know if you have any questions regarding the difference.
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Thanks for the research and yes I do have questions if its not too much of an issue:
1.) Carrier bloat is like the usual and can just be deleted anyways correct?
2.) In what scenarios (in case everything was working fine with OTA updates) would the phone have downloaded a version without bloat?
3.) Would updating to the non-bloated version cause any issues since the phone is still carrier locked?
4.) Lastly, for the firmware, would I need to download multiple updates until that point or just straight to the firmware?
If not, I can research the answers as I have been on it on and off for a month with research but other than that, you're a god send.
By the way, if #1 is true, I'll just take the bloatware no doubt just to be as safe as possible.

Thanks again for all the help @ethical_haquer
Been busy researching in the Samsung Note 8 ATT threads and I was able to find the answer to number 4 in that using Full ODIN files is a complete flash and different than just an update which requires the previous updates.
The answer to number 3 from what I have seen no. The only thing is that certain features may NOT work such as VoLTE; pretty much you already answered 3 and I was literally too dumb to see that until I started writing this message. *face palm
Question 2 is pretty much inconsequential so don't worry answering that. Its was just curiosity. But for anyone who does see this possibly, my speculation is that NO, the carrier version would never download the non-carrier version. The non-branded update is for those unlocked phones that receive over-the-air (OTA) updates that were not associated with any carrier, in other words buying a phone directly from samsung's website.
For 1, I am guessing it is "Yes" since I was able to do that in the past with all my other phones. But either way it is not a make it or break it so it doesn't matter.
I have been able to find some full ODIN files for the updates I was looking for, so will be attempting my first flash soon. Will be posting all my findings to the thread I was reading just to potentially help anyone else (though rare since this device is getting real old) who has the same questions I had and I can get them up to speed without having to search everything

Just finished flashing the ATT Note 8 to and the Answer to Number 1 is that NO, you cannot Uninstall the bloatware
Again, will post all these findings to the proper thread in after completed

Sorry for the late reply! I would try installing the firmware for the SM-N950U1 (notice the 1). It should work and won't have carrier bloat.

ethical_haquer said:
Sorry for the late reply! I would try installing the firmware for the SM-N950U1 (notice the 1). It should work and won't have carrier bloat.
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You're all good!
I may but I actually have to find one more update I am looking for (Full ODIN FILES). My daily driver note 8 is on N950USQS7DTE5 and it is a T-Mobile Version (though it bein g TMO is inconsequential at the moment. Just thought I might mention it).
That is the update I would like for ATT just so that I know there wont be any differences (or less differences) between my daily driver and this.This is me being picky at this point but isn't the point of life getting what you want? I found one update above that but different bootloader. So for whatever reason may happen, no going back.
What I currently flashed to was N950USQS3BRA8 so it's still on Android 7.1.1 but I did this just to test to the process (my first flashing). Now I am ready.
So I will look for that then flash it and update as usual

Just found, or couldnt find, that ATT has the same update so will just go with what I have. Close as I can get