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I had problems with my phone, discharing in under five hours, and useing 5-6 hours to recharge..
When I got to work today, I exchanged the phone with a new one.. It was at 25%-... Small use, and it was down to 14%....
Now Its been 7 hours, and its back to 69%.. and still charging...
Anyone else having this problem?
I experience sort of the same thing...
Charging the phone takes forever (4-5 hours) and Im down to 70-65% charge when I get to work after a full nights charge (from 100%). On the way to work I listen to Spotify (no streaming) for 30 min, read a couple of emails... but nothing else...(wifi off but push mail on)
My conclusion was that I used a USB port for charging and my USB port may not delivering a lot of power (ie long charge time, but this was not a issue with other phones on the same USB ports).
I have also read that the battery charge "builds up" after a few recharges, but I have not experienced any difference the last week.
I will try to use the charger tonight (not USB)
The non-USB charger will be faster since it delivers 1 A. If I remember correctly, a normal USB-port only delivers 100 mA - so it should be 10 times faster
With the normal charger from LG.
0 til 100% goes in 2/2.5hours.
TakenName said:
Now Its been 7 hours, and its back to 69%.. and still charging...
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That must be USB charging.
From a wall socket I get 10% / 10 mins - 100% charge in ~100 mins.
USB is restricted to 100mA if the device doesn't "connect" to the USB port (identifies itself blabla)
If it does, standard USB is rated at 500mA for each port.
I recommend using the wallcharger, as those usually deliver more juice.
Its not USB charge.. Connected to the "socket" in the wall...
I just noticed on the phone that battery condition is "overheated"....
This is the second phone I have with the same problem.....
oh.. and btw;
ive was done at work at 4pm, battery at 69%..
Now its almost 7pm, and its down to 25 %
Non USB charging from 4% till 100% 2 hours
TakenName said:
Its not USB charge.. Connected to the "socket" in the wall...
I just noticed on the phone that battery condition is "overheated"....
This is the second phone I have with the same problem.....
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ive was done at work at 4pm, battery at 69%..
Now its almost 7pm, and its down to 25 %
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That's probably bad... unless the fuses in your house (charge at home) are bad?
Way, too slow and it should not get hot.
I put the phone in "Airplane" mode, and now it charge fast, and keeps the power/current(?)...
Since WiFi is allways disabled, it most be the phone connection that draws all the power out of it....
TakenName said:
I put the phone in "Airplane" mode, and now it charge fast, and keeps the power/current(?)...
Since WiFi is allways disabled, it most be the phone connection that draws all the power out of it....
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Plus you get free airpoints!
Experiencing some issues with charging too.
Under heavy load (for instance 3D games), even if my phone is charging with the wallcharger, my battery slowly discharge and my phone eventually shuts off automatically
I also noticed that my phone can get really hot. I had this issue with MCR fr8 and fr12 with and without calibration. No overclocking or fancy kernels. I'm now considering sending my 2x back to LG with an insult letter.
Anyone experiencing this issue as well? Any clue how to fix that (wallcharger > 1A for instance?)
Supposedly the 2X has an issue with Radio usage. Using only 2G networks will improve it alot.
We are hoping for a fix in the Gingerbread ROM...
Also do you have the newest baseband installed when using FR12?
I already experienced this with fr8 and the old RIL so I don't think it's a baseband/RIL mismatch problem. I will see if fr12 and new radio improve things though.
Btw, I can see that phone/data layer takes up as much battery as wifi. Is that a normal ratio on an android phone? Can't remember battery usage on my previous phones.
OK so I am running Trickdroid 9.1 with ElementalX kernel set to fast charging. I also have a specialist fast charging USB cable (no data). The car charger supposedly outputs 2.1 amps (at least one each port and I am only using one).
So basically before I found out about AC charge mode my battery was draining out when running NavFree app. Even when I changed to fast charge mode with an older (thin) USB data cable it was losing charge when running NavFree. Which is why I got the fast charge cable.
Now it seems to retain it's charge when running the app. At least it does not drain. However it never seems to charge either. It was on 78% charge and stayed like that throughout a 10 mile test journey. Using Battery Monitor Widget it shows that it never rose much over 600mA usage. But mostly used a lot less and sometimes dawdled around the trickle charge values.
Is there a reason why it won't charge up the battery whilst running an app like NavFree at the same time?
Start here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/312162-frustrated-charging-htc-one-car.html
I will offer that if you don't have power saver on that ROM you're probably SOL.
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bbinder said:
Start here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/312162-frustrated-charging-htc-one-car.html
I will offer that if you don't have power saver on that ROM you're probably SOL.
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Yes power saver mode is on. thanks for the link I am reading through it. So far it seems the HTC sucks on car chargers (but doesn't draw enough or if it does causes battery overheating issues if in a warm climate or have heating on).
The best results for me have been making sure you are using AC charging and have power save mode on. If I use that method my phone charges but it's a slow process.
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deadman3000 said:
Now it seems to retain it's charge when running the app. At least it does not drain. However it never seems to charge either. It was on 78% charge and stayed like that throughout a 10 mile test journey. Using Battery Monitor Widget it shows that it never rose much over 600mA usage. But mostly used a lot less and sometimes dawdled around the trickle charge values.
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It will draw *up to* 1A, but only when mostly discharged. Try it with, say, 20% charge, you should get higher current.
Once the battery hits around 4.3V, charging changes from constant current to constant voltage; the current drops.
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It will draw *up to* 1A, but only when mostly discharged. Try it with, say, 20% charge, you should get higher current.
Once the battery hits around 4.3V, charging changes from constant current to constant voltage; the current drops.
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Which is a terrible algorithm when you want your phone charged to max when driving using satnav apps. I want my phone to get a full charge on a journey. Not be down to 78% or lower at the end of it. I may need the phone for the next couple of days without being able to charge it.
So my HTC One does something really weird sometimes and im afraid if this keeps going on something bad will happen to it.
since i got 5 months ago this has happened like 4-5 times. and i charge it every night. so, sometimes when I charge it and go to bed I wake up and check the phone and even though it was charging when I left it it has only charged for like 20% and even though its connnected to the charger the charging icon wont show. plus the phone is too hot. and i dont mean warm or hot on the back. I mean too hot to touch everywhere, not only the back. Everywhere it has aluminium its too hot. this has only happened 4-5 times and I immediately take it off the charger wait a bit to cool off and then start charging it again and everything is fine. While its hot no warnings pop up and the phone works just fine, but its extremely hot and even though its connected to the charger it doesnt charge. why is that?
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Hey,
This might be a problem with the charger.
Try using the original charging set provided with the phone.
Is there anything you do with the phone that may be considered out of the normal when you charge it?
Worst-case scenario, this might be a hardware fault. In that case you should be able to claim it under warranty.
Good Luck
Something similar happens to me on occasion. It'll be plugged in but when viewing in/out mah, it actually shows it's draining. Less than when it was unplugged, but still draining although it says ac plugged in. (using battery monitor to view btw). When it does that, and it's left plugged in (like overnight), it's abnormally hot when I check it. I have to unplug it and then plug it back in (sometimes a few times) before charging levels go back to norm.
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It happened on me for 1 or 2 times as well, the only different is mine is not really hot. After i flashed custom rom, it seems everything is fine. I guess maybe there are some bugs in the original rom. Now i am using the rom based on google edition. Good luck
I am using the original charger and it does this but it also have done this with a samsung charger i have used some times. something else that I noticed is that when I'm charging and using the phone sometimes the battery percentage drops.
I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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Not sure, I don't use stock or the stock charger. I would have thought the stock charger trickle charged. I remember my HTC desire used to charge to 100%, discharge to 90 and then charge to 100% in a loop as it didn't trickle charge.
Make sure your using a cable that supports data as well. My stock 5.01 and stock charger/cable does trickle charge.
It's perfectly normal to see this in such devices, though if it were going any lower I'd investigate further.
Maintaining a constant flow to the battery would burn it out so the charge gets it to full and then cuts out, allowing a little discharging and cooling of the battery. Once it gets to certain point, it'll start to juice the battery again.
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thanks for the replies - I've not seen it drop below 90%, but I know if remove the charger and plug back in, it will start charging as normal - another thing I have recently noticed is that when you do plug charger in, initially it switches between battery/charger a few times and then starts properly charging - I wonder if this is feature of the phone or lollipop causing this. - other than this phone seems to work fine and have had over 2 days on a full charge
Well got it to drop to 80% while plugged in and it didn't start charging again until pulled cable and put back in
what charger are you using? i leave my n6 on a charger for hours after it hits 100%, and it never ever drops. id even say that when it hits 100% it doesnt stop charging. it keeps charging, with a much less inflow of charge than normal, but its still charging. for about 30min before it stops charging. then it just stays at 100%. sometimes i have it plugged in for 8-10 hours after, never once did it go to 99%. this is while using stock, and custom roms.
walkerx said:
I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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The new gen chargers actually cut the power when the battery Actually hits 99% and show it as 100% and stop it charging. But when the 100% drop to 99% (which is not actually visible), it automatically starts charging. But discharging the battery more than 1% is not actually a Normal thing, I should say. I also do charge over-night, never evidenced such thing. I'll suggest you to try with different turbo charger if you have one.
I'm using the stock charger got with the phone. I did contact Motorola over this and they were useless. I know charger works as charges to 100%. But it then just stops.
I have performed a factory reset to see how it goes tonight.
If still no good will speak with CPW and see what they say as don't fancy having to send off based on some of the forum posts
I have no issues with my N4 which has been connected to a power source for days and still shows 100%
I have also noticed that on the N6 when powered off and charge it doesn't show that it is charging
taken it into CPW and they have sent it off for repair - been told 16 days - at least with apple it's near enough same day, shame can't do same with android phones
I had called Motorola uk support and was promised email confirmation of call and also call back this morning regarding the phone and have had neither
back to my Nexus 4 for time being, just hope my Nexus 6 don't come back with any scratches, etc
I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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Good question. But judging by the rest of this thread, I suspect that it will behave the same with a wire as with the Qi. I don't ever actually use the wire to charge, since the ballistic maxx case makes access to the USB plug inconvenient.
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
Ok, so looking at the DT for the device....
https://android.googlesource.com/ke...ot/dts/apq8084-shamu/apq8084-moto-common.dtsi
Look at lines ranging from 823 to 854 for the smb1357 block.
Note low-voltage-uv = 2750000, max-voltage-uv = 4350000
In mv, that would be 2750 and 4350 respectively. That makes for a range of 1600 mV.
The recharge-thresh-mv = 200
Assuming a *relatively* linear voltage/percentage curve, 200/1600 * 100 = 12.5%. It won't be quite that linear, but this is adequate to give a rough idea of the charge cycle breadth in percentage points.
recharge-thresh-mv accepts values of 50, 100, 200, or 300. The smaller the value is, the tighter the recharge threshold becomes. At 50, we would be looking at roughly 3%.
So my conclusion: working as intended.
There is another aspect that becomes involved when using Qi, which is the bq51021. This one has a parameter "resume-vbatt-mv" set to a value of 4270 mV. That is 80 mV below full, or roughly 5%. Judging by only the name of the parameter, it sounds like it sets a Qi charge cycle breadth of 5%, but I don't understand the relationship between the bq51021 and the smb1357. I suspect that the two have to agree for Qi charging to work.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
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I don't think so. I put it on the charger at pretty much the same time and take it off at pretty much the same time but starting from different % remaining every day... If it did drop to 90%, i would have caught it at least once by now.
update: whatever you do if you are uk customer and purchased via CPW do not take it back to them - i found out today that they are not accredited repairers and they should have advised me it needed to go to Motorola - now trying to find out what is happening with my phone and when to get it back
I'm still trying to understand how my Nexus 6 works with Qi charging, and the results are a bit inconsistent.
I'm using an LG WCD-100 stand and a BlackBerry Blade charger, both of which are reported to work well with the Nexus 6 (in portrait).
I've had my Nexus 6 on the dock on my desk in work this week, and have been keeping an eye on it. I have the screen on all the time (so I can keep an eye on incoming personal emails). Most of the time the N6 charges to 100%. It then stops charging until it get to about 98%, at which time it starts charging again. So far so good. HOWEVER, on a few occasions it did not start to recharge (even with the battery down to the 70's), and I had to remove it from the charger for a few moments and then put it back before it would start charging again.
I'll try again next week (I'm only desk-bound Tue/Wed/Thu) with a different Qi charger, just in case there's a problem with the one I'm using (though I doubt it).
In the meantime, has anybody seen similar behaviour - or is it time to talk to Motorola UK Support?
the charging issue with it not starting again is the same as what i'm having on wired connection - if you install something like gsam battery monitor you can see that it is discharging while actually charging
I also have the LG WCD-100 (from when I had the LG G3) but not actually using it as I think first time tried you have to get it in the correct area for it to charge
I had problems with my Nokia charger. Because this phone is big and the back of the Nokia was less than half way up the back of the phone, the weight of the too of the phone pushed the bottom of the phone away from the charger.. Imagine the phone as a see saw and the top of the back of the charger as the pivot point. Also the unflat back didn't help
Hi there,
to be honest, I have posted that question already in the P30 forum. But as both devices are quite similar and the Pro has a wider reach I decided to repeat it here. I hope you don't mind...
With the new EMUI10.1 also the "Smart Charge" feature arrived. Well, here at my P30 as a switch at least. I am really not sure, if this is working at all. I have it activated since idk 5 weeks or so and am using the original cable and charger. The charging curve, as can be seen in the battery settings, is not displaying any slower or even paused charging speed, the curve goes straight up until 100% ~1h after plugging in. Also there is nothing indicating an activated smart charging right when I plug in the charger.
What is your experience here, can you guys see any difference, have you seen any proof this is working?
Many thanks.
Yes, I've noticed it on both of my Huawei phones. It basically slows down or even stops charging so it doesnt max out, in order to preserve battery life. So you can leave it on the charger forever but it'll never hit 100%. My P30 pro sits on the charger almost daily and sits around 80-90%.
Maybe it has an algorithm that knows when you dont use it and charges to max then? My phone is on a wireless charger about 95% of the time throughout the day and night because it isnt used often. Sometimes it'll popup telling me that its using the smart charge feature and if I want to disable it blah blah.
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I wake up every morning and mines on 100%. Looking at the battery graph it goes straight to 100% doesn't stop at 80 and charge nearer the time I unplug it so not quite sure how they've implemented it. Sony pauses charging til the usual time you unplug. Maybe when it reaches 100 on Huawei it stops charging.
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That matches my experience. Also the Sony part.
Hi guys, I noticed that even if the smart charge is on and I always charge at 80% max, if I forget to unplug it it goes up to 100%. SO I suppose it is not working... What is your experience about it?
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I think it charges to 100% then stops charging... And keeps it at 100%... I charge my phone every night... I never see it pause charging at 80% looking at the charging graph.
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Thank you for your feedback! So it is not working as it should. I got it should "understand" your habits and charge it accordingly, never going over 80%.
It's a pity, I found it really useful, but if it works like this it is useless.
beggar23 said:
Hi there,
to be honest, I have posted that question already in the P30 forum. But as both devices are quite similar and the Pro has a wider reach I decided to repeat it here. I hope you don't mind...
With the new EMUI10.1 also the "Smart Charge" feature arrived. Well, here at my P30 as a switch at least. I am really not sure, if this is working at all. I have it activated since idk 5 weeks or so and am using the original cable and charger. The charging curve, as can be seen in the battery settings, is not displaying any slower or even paused charging speed, the curve goes straight up until 100% ~1h after plugging in. Also there is nothing indicating an activated smart charging right when I plug in the charger.
What is your experience here, can you guys see any difference, have you seen any proof this is working?
Many thanks.
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According to the official, smartphones powered by lithium batteries ages differently, which results vary in terms of charging or simply called slow charging as well as short battery life.
For example, if a user leaves the charging overnight or for a long time. The charger keeps supplying the power to the battery, a state called overcharging. Repeating this process causes battery aging.
But with accurate management, the battery aging can be slow down and extend the battery life.
This is where Smart Charging Mode comes in place and uses the phone’s built-in AI capabilities to learn usage patterns. To slow down the battery to charge 100% when required.
For example, if the smart charging mode is enabled and the battery reaches 80%. The charging automatically slowdowns (charging rate) before it reaches 100%. This whole process prevents the phone to keep charging at 100 percent without harming the batter
P20pro here, same problem. Night or day, it seems to charge at the same rate, not waiting at 80%, no sign of that toggle doing anything.
skodann said:
According to the official, smartphones powered by lithium batteries ages differently, which results vary in terms of charging or simply called slow charging as well as short battery life.
For example, if a user leaves the charging overnight or for a long time. The charger keeps supplying the power to the battery, a state called overcharging. Repeating this process causes battery aging.
But with accurate management, the battery aging can be slow down and extend the battery life.
This is where Smart Charging Mode comes in place and uses the phone’s built-in AI capabilities to learn usage patterns. To slow down the battery to charge 100% when required.
For example, if the smart charging mode is enabled and the battery reaches 80%. The charging automatically slowdowns (charging rate) before it reaches 100%. This whole process prevents the phone to keep charging at 100 percent without harming the batter
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I still cannot see any slowdown in charging here. How about you?
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None... Charges as usual over night. Goes to 100% in about 1 hour and stays there
So basically it charges up to 80% in regular mode, after it starts to charge or very slowly or just before u wake up to 100%.. Yes, is learning at what time usually u touch for the first time the phone..
Or at least, this is what should do
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So basically it charges up to 80% in regular mode, after it starts to charge or very slowly or just before u wake up to 100%.. Yes, is learning at what time usually u touch for the first time the phone..
Or at least, this is what should do
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Exactly, "should do". Instead the phone is charging quickly and straight to 100% without any slowdown.
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