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At&T has a new price point for HOX at $99.99 on contract so is the Atrix HD worth it still? Right now I am not sure since CM10 looks pretty good on the HOX.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/27/3192908/att-htc-one-x-price-drop-99-dollars-rumor
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At&T has a new price point for HOX at $99.99 on contract so is the Atrix HD worth it still? Right now I am not sure since CM10 looks pretty good on the HOX.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/27/3192908/att-htc-one-x-price-drop-99-dollars-rumor
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I strongly considered the One X but the limited and non-expandable internal memory was completely a deal breaker for me. I have a bunch of music and movies on a 32GB card that I would have had to squeezed down to its 16GB internal memory. Why in this day and age would they do that? Might be a "cloud" thing. Since with the "cloud" you don't need large on-board memory. I don't buy that. I don't want to blow my very limited unlimited data plan, and not all of us have LTE coverage. While I have LTE at home (though with WiFi I've never needed to use it) my work still is on edge!
In addition I got the Atrix HD for $49 from Best Buy AND I signed up for their upgrade gift card (back in Feb) so I got a $50 gift card back instantly.
Thanks and I forgot about the expandable memory, and good deal with bestbuy now. Wish I could do something like that myself, but I want to hold onto this unlimited plan for as long as I can just to stick it to At&t. Now that I think about it the I hope that the tmobile version gets a microsd card slot like the Sprint Evo LTE. Outside of that I hope motorola unlocks the AHD's bootloader since stock doesn't seem like it is taking advantage of the S4 cpu.
I also hate how they shrunk down the internal memory from 32GB to 16GB in the US version, it was a deal breaker for me as well.
I have my family on a family plan so we have 4 lines.
I have another upgrade coming in a week and my family is happy with what they got. I was thinking about picking up an SGS2 Skyrocket or maybe even the new Sony that came out, but now that the HTC One X is cheaper I'll be getting that.
When I traded my Atrix 2 in they gave me $150 and I got the Atrix HD and I still have the $100 gift card, so I'll be getting the OneX free as well (at cost of being in contract)
Even though the Atrix HD had been disappointing because the lack of a dev community and the locked bootloader. I've grown to really appreciate the phone because it's engineering has been so solid for the hardware/software, that this phone has been running so well I see no need to change anything about it.
Eventually in a few months Dev will pick up on the Atrix HD, until Then I'll have the OneX sometime next week to play with.
One X vs AHD
Yes it appears on Sunday the price of the 1X is going to match the price of the AHD making it a challenging decision. However, since the HTC has been out for a couple of months, many of the bugs and hardware issues have reared their ugly head, at least on the AC forums. Of course, I do realize this a very small percentage of the total population of One X owners. Regardless, I'm not a fan of what HTC did to a perfectly good functioning multi-tasking in ICS which is where the AHD shines. And yes, the lack of microSD in the HTC is also annoying.
Has anyone in this forum had any regrets for investing in a mid-level phone like this? All the GS3 fans rave about it, but it too has its issues and I don't like the fact that the native email client does not allow pinch zooming emails. When I tested the AHD it seems it does and I also like the Smart Actions app too.
As a noob Andriod user, would you folks recommend the AHD due to the near stock Android experience? I don't want to waste an upgrade and need to make the best decision. Thanks.
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I have my family on a family plan so we have 4 lines.
I have another upgrade coming in a week and my family is happy with what they got. I was thinking about picking up an SGS2 Skyrocket or maybe even the new Sony that came out, but now that the HTC One X is cheaper I'll be getting that.
When I traded my Atrix 2 in they gave me $150 and I got the Atrix HD and I still have the $100 gift card, so I'll be getting the OneX free as well (at cost of being in contract)
Even though the Atrix HD had been disappointing because the lack of a dev community and the locked bootloader. I've grown to really appreciate the phone because it's engineering has been so solid for the hardware/software, that this phone has been running so well I see no need to change anything about it.
Eventually in a few months Dev will pick up on the Atrix HD, until Then I'll have the OneX sometime next week to play with.
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Yes it appears on Sunday the price of the 1X is going to match the price of the AHD making it a challenging decision. However, since the HTC has been out for a couple of months, many of the bugs and hardware issues have reared their ugly head, at least on the AC forums. Of course, I do realize this a very small percentage of the total population of One X owners. Regardless, I'm not a fan of what HTC did to a perfectly good functioning multi-tasking in ICS which is where the AHD shines. And yes, the lack of microSD in the HTC is also annoying.
Has anyone in this forum had any regrets for investing in a mid-level phone like this? All the GS3 fans rave about it, but it too has its issues and I don't like the fact that the native email client does not allow pinch zooming emails. When I tested the AHD it seems it does and I also like the Smart Actions app too.
As a noob Andriod user, would you folks recommend the AHD due to the near stock Android experience? I don't want to waste an upgrade and need to make the best decision. Thanks.
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If I had the chance I'd get the SGS3
If I had to choose between the MAHD and the 1X, I'd probably stick with the MAHD. Even though the MAHD isnt really any fun to modify right now, that'll change soon or later.
It's really up to the person. If you already have doubts about the HTC One X's UI, then I'd stick with the MAHD
I love the ability to stack icons on your home screen to make folders, and the feature to swipe icons like your email or texts to get a preview without opening REALLY saves time and makes using ICS so much more productive.
As soon as we can unlock the boot loader, this phone will become a monster.
If we only had root access right now, I'd be able to edit the build.prop and have this phones hardware beat the 1x and SGS3 no sweat.
So if I understand correctly, an important part of the decision about which device to purchase should be the developer element? In another thread in this forum that has to do with someone that exchanged their GS3 for the AHD, a guy who's a big GS3 proponent stated he feels its unlikely the AHD will get a JB update since Moto moves very slowly with updates even though Google owns Moto Mobility. And since the boot loader is locked on this phone, there won't be any development yet.
From my perspective, the choice needs to weigh all the elements of the phone, how many issues people are experiencing and that it's well balanced in all areas. A new consumer review vid was just posted in the AHD forum on AC and it's well done. He points out all the strong points and the weak ones on the AHD, too. And as we know, the big sticking points on this phone are the camera and battery though from what I see in the XDA forum, most have found using Juice Defender and/or the Smart Actions battery saver help resolve the battery problem.
I like the new garnet red color for the ATT GS3 and with the credits I got at Amazon, it would reduce the price to nearly $100 (though I could get the AHD for $25 But money aside, I just want the best phone that will be reliable and do everything it should without any problems.
Kedakari said:
If I had the chance I'd get the SGS3
If I had to choose between the MAHD and the 1X, I'd probably stick with the MAHD. Even though the MAHD isnt really any fun to modify right now, that'll change soon or later.
It's really up to the person. If you already have doubts about the HTC One X's UI, then I'd stick with the MAHD
I love the ability to stack icons on your home screen to make folders, and the feature to swipe icons like your email or texts to get a preview without opening REALLY saves time and makes using ICS so much more productive.
As soon as we can unlock the boot loader, this phone will become a monster.
If we only had root access right now, I'd be able to edit the build.prop and have this phones hardware beat the 1x and SGS3 no sweat.
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So if I understand correctly, an important part of the decision about which device to purchase should be the developer element? In another thread in this forum that has to do with someone that exchanged their GS3 for the AHD, a guy who's a big GS3 proponent stated he feels its unlikely the AHD will get a JB update since Moto moves very slowly with updates even though Google owns Moto Mobility. And since the boot loader is locked on this phone, there won't be any development yet.
From my perspective, the choice needs to weigh all the elements of the phone, how many issues people are experiencing and that it's well balanced in all areas. A new consumer review vid was just posted in the AHD forum on AC and it's well done. He points out all the strong points and the weak ones on the AHD, too. And as we know, the big sticking points on this phone are the camera and battery though from what I see in the XDA forum, most have found using Juice Defender and/or the Smart Actions battery saver help resolve the battery problem.
I like the new garnet red color for the ATT GS3 and with the credits I got at Amazon, it would reduce the price to nearly $100 (though I could get the AHD for $25 But money aside, I just want the best phone that will be reliable and do everything it should without any problems.
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That doesn't actually have to be an important element in your decision if rooting, flashing Roms etc. isn't your strong point or desire in Android phones. Since this phone is still new development will be very slow for who knows how long!
I came from the GS3 which I owned for at least 3 weeks. I loved the phone, everything it was hyped for came with it. It was quick and snappy right out of the box, but so is the AHD. From owning the GS3 for that amount of time; easing into the AHD was not bad at all. It was still quick and snappy out of the box had no complaints thus far for speed/multitasking, phone as of now is unable to be rooted so what you get is what you get. As far as JB update...well I'm not too sure on that criteria, I came from both the Atrix and Atrix 2, now both phones still don't have ICS i believe don't ..quote me on that lol but both phones are capable to experience ICS thru ports via ROMs. So they still get a little taste of how it is, I personally believe if we don't "Officially receive JB" eventually we could possibly see ported ROMs of JB (BL unlocked hopefully) in the near future. Aside of the BL being locked some members are at work of producing a root method for our phones and once that gets done..boy our phones are just half way there lol.
Haven't had any problems with the battery thus far since I have activated Batt. Extender App thru Smart Actions immediately out of the box, also installed Juice Defender and I can say it does make a huge difference so your not missing out on the battery too much.
I too loved the look of the GS3 in Red and was considering exchanging colors as opposed to getting the AHD, but I came from the White GS3 and i suffered from the deadly "Paint Crack" defect on the back cover!! I figured damn well I don't like the blue color and it did have a problem as well with the back cover...so I assumed the red just might have a defect lying there somewhere hahah.
I purchased the GS3 at Radio Shack for $150 thru upgrade which came to $207 after taxes so if you do plan on ordering the device through Amazon your getting quite a good deal, cheaper than any other person had problem gotten the device for lol.
All in all the AHD is a very reliable phone as well as the GS3! Both phones are capable of doing the same daily routines i.e texting, calling, browsing, etc.(Root/Rom aside) You can't go wrong with either device they are both great and I recommend both, it totally comes down to personal prefrence! If you were to ask me IMO I would get the AHD it's price point is unbeatable and for what comes out of the box you definitely can't go wrong, you won't be disappointed! Hope I was able to be of some help!
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Thanks and I forgot about the expandable memory, and good deal with bestbuy now. Wish I could do something like that myself, but I want to hold onto this unlimited plan for as long as I can just to stick it to At&t. Now that I think about it the I hope that the tmobile version gets a microsd card slot like the Sprint Evo LTE. Outside of that I hope motorola unlocks the AHD's bootloader since stock doesn't seem like it is taking advantage of the S4 cpu.
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Your unlimited plan will last as long as you want. Just don't downgrade data plans, because then you lose it. I kept mine. Actually did a cross upgrade (one of the phones on plan was due for upgrade but not the one that I wanted to upgrade). They switched my unlimited plan to a LTE unlimited plan, without any question, or argument.
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Your unlimited plan will last as long as you want. Just don't downgrade data plans, because then you lose it. I kept mine. Actually did a cross upgrade (one of the phones on plan was due for upgrade but not the one that I wanted to upgrade). They switched my unlimited plan to a LTE unlimited plan, without any question, or argument.
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Did you do this through at&t or a third party like best buy or Walmart? The reason I ask is when I went to a third party for an upgrade in the fall last year they said I would have to drop to a tiered plan. I went through At&t then to keep it, just wish I could get these reduced deals through places like amazon and RadioShack.
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Chcl8.. Yes, you were of some help. Went back to the ATT store today and one of the reps is very knowledgeable and also owns a rooted Atrix that he's running Linux on too. I left the store thinking the GS3 might be the better decision due to not knowing if the AHD will ever get the JB update. And to me, that's BIG deal. I've never rooted or flashed a ROM due to owning an iPhone for so many years, though it's something I'd like to learn at some point. But I don't want to do anything that would void the warranty.
He said that after a few weeks I probably wouldn't notice the blue cast on the screen, though to me, it's pretty obvious now. And the points you are making about the hair line cracking in the plastic on the back of the GS3 was interesting and also made me think. But having a removable battery is nice just the same. I'm really torn right now and can't decide. And since I'll be getting the phone from ATT, getting the AHD will also include the car dock and car charger which is nice. I do prefer how Moto has skinned ICS as compared to TW though but the camera really isn't great at all. UGH!
Chcl8bananamagk said:
That doesn't actually have to be an important element in your decision if rooting, flashing Roms etc. isn't your strong point or desire in Android phones. Since this phone is still new development will be very slow for who knows how long!
I came from the GS3 which I owned for at least 3 weeks. I loved the phone, everything it was hyped for came with it. It was quick and snappy right out of the box, but so is the AHD. From owning the GS3 for that amount of time; easing into the AHD was not bad at all. It was still quick and snappy out of the box had no complaints thus far for speed/multitasking, phone as of now is unable to be rooted so what you get is what you get. As far as JB update...well I'm not too sure on that criteria, I came from both the Atrix and Atrix 2, now both phones still don't have ICS i believe don't ..quote me on that lol but both phones are capable to experience ICS thru ports via ROMs. So they still get a little taste of how it is, I personally believe if we don't "Officially receive JB" eventually we could possibly see ported ROMs of JB (BL unlocked hopefully) in the near future. Aside of the BL being locked some members are at work of producing a root method for our phones and once that gets done..boy our phones are just half way there lol.
Haven't had any problems with the battery thus far since I have activated Batt. Extender App thru Smart Actions immediately out of the box, also installed Juice Defender and I can say it does make a huge difference so your not missing out on the battery too much.
I too loved the look of the GS3 in Red and was considering exchanging colors as opposed to getting the AHD, but I came from the White GS3 and i suffered from the deadly "Paint Crack" defect on the back cover!! I figured damn well I don't like the blue color and it did have a problem as well with the back cover...so I assumed the red just might have a defect lying there somewhere hahah.
I purchased the GS3 at Radio Shack for $150 thru upgrade which came to $207 after taxes so if you do plan on ordering the device through Amazon your getting quite a good deal, cheaper than any other person had problem gotten the device for lol.
All in all the AHD is a very reliable phone as well as the GS3! Both phones are capable of doing the same daily routines i.e texting, calling, browsing, etc.(Root/Rom aside) You can't go wrong with either device they are both great and I recommend both, it totally comes down to personal prefrence! If you were to ask me IMO I would get the AHD it's price point is unbeatable and for what comes out of the box you definitely can't go wrong, you won't be disappointed! Hope I was able to be of some help!
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I left the store thinking the GS3 might be the better decision due to not knowing if the AHD will ever get the JB update. And to me, that's BIG deal. I've never rooted or flashed a ROM due to owning an iPhone for so many years, though it's something I'd like to learn at some point. But I don't want to do anything that would void the warranty.
He said that after a few weeks I probably wouldn't notice the blue cast on the screen, though to me, it's pretty obvious now. And the points you are making about the hair line cracking in the plastic on the back of the GS3 was interesting and also made me think. But having a removable battery is nice just the same.
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I think it'll get it, it'll just be a long time before it comes out. I'd bet the next version of Android will be out before this phone gets JB. If you guys ever get root though you'll likely be able to get it before the official update drops via leak on the Moto servers like what has recently come out for the Atrix 2. As for the hairline cracking, if you go ripping the cover off like a madman you can expect that. but if you get it started a little, and then use your thumbnail to run along the bezel of the phone to get it off the rest of the way you won't have an issue.
Kedakari said:
If I had the chance I'd get the SGS3
If I had to choose between the MAHD and the 1X, I'd probably stick with the MAHD. Even though the MAHD isnt really any fun to modify right now, that'll change soon or later.
It's really up to the person. If you already have doubts about the HTC One X's UI, then I'd stick with the MAHD
I love the ability to stack icons on your home screen to make folders, and the feature to swipe icons like your email or texts to get a preview without opening REALLY saves time and makes using ICS so much more productive.
As soon as we can unlock the boot loader, this phone will become a monster.
If we only had root access right now, I'd be able to edit the build.prop and have this phones hardware beat the 1x and SGS3 no sweat.
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I'm really interested in seeing what you have planned now that root has been released! Have you had a chance to work with the Atrix HD yet?
Hi guys and gals,
Looking for some advice from more experienced and wiser users such as yourselves.
My Z1 has just crapped out on me, meaning it took a huge fall and crapped itself all over the pavement.. Sigh...
As such, I'm in need of a new phone. As we all know the S6 and the M9 are up for grabs and in my country, the unlocked price between these and the Nexus 6 is pretty much the same.
So the question is, do I buy one of these or is the Nexus still a valid option?
I mean, the S6 has a beautiful display but Exynos stands for a very complicated third-party development theatre and Samsung has a ******ng horrible policy regarding upgrade cycles, screwing everyone and their pooch in the process.
As for the M9, while a fine device, it isn't Quad HD and I'm really hankering for one of those, Plus... It does have that shiny new 64bit SoC inside...
Do you guys still think that the 805 can hold it's own against this new breed of SoC's?
TIA.
baseline01 said:
Hi guys and gals,
Looking for some advice from more experienced and wiser users such as yourselves.
My Z1 has just crapped out on me, meaning it took a huge fall and crapped itself all over the pavement.. Sigh...
As such, I'm in need of a new phone. As we all know the S6 and the M9 are up for grabs and in my country, the unlocked price between these and the Nexus 6 is pretty much the same.
So the question is, do I buy one of these or is the Nexus still a valid option?
I mean, the S6 has a beautiful display but Exynos stands for a very complicated third-party development theatre and Samsung has a ******ng horrible policy regarding upgrade cycles, screwing everyone and their pooch in the process.
As for the M9, while a fine device, it isn't Quad HD and I'm really hankering for one of those, Plus... It does have that shiny new 64bit SoC inside...
Do you guys still think that the 805 can hold it's own against this new breed of Qualcomm SoC's?
TIA.
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Hi, a bit of advice if I may. If you're waiting for something better, then you'll always be waiting. In my opinion, the Nexus is an amazing device but not in the same category as the other two you mentioned. This is a "phablet", meaning it is large. Much larger than either of the other phones you're considering. So take that as a factor in your decision. Also, the Nexus will get updates faster and probably for longer than those two. Just look at the likes of the Nexus 4 and 5. As for performance this device will continue to hold its own as it is pure, unskinned Android. Good luck with your choice but I recommend trying to get some " hands on" time with any device you're considering.
I just got the Nexus last Friday and I'm thrilled! N6 all day long :good:
Also just ordered this 64gb blue bad boy!
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Also just ordered this 64gb blue bad boy!
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I have been a Samsung Note user, the 2, 3, and recently the 4. Great phones, but i was on ATT and the 4 is totally locked. I just couldn't stand touchwiz anymore. Not that it was bad, but i was tired of not having the ability to install or delete whatever i wanted on my phone.
I gave up the Note 4 for the N6. The N6 doesn't have quite as nice of a screen, and it doesn't get as bright for direct sun, or as low in complete darkness. Other then that i couldn't be happier. I find that having the flexibility to do what i want is far better then being locked into a device and it's software.
I think for each person it's very personal choice about what they want to do with the device they are buying.
Got my N6 9 days ago, unlocked bootloader, updated to Android 5.1, and rooted the phone right away.
N6 is great.
My previous phone was HTC Vivid (4.7 inches) -- now the 4.7 inch phone looks too small.
Edit: I always wanted to have a Nexus device, since it is very easy to unlock its bootloader, and root the device.
I bought my Nexus 6 from amazon.com, so no AT&T traces anywhere on the phone No, AT&T bloatware either.
You can install android updates (it you need to) without any delay.
Also, by the end of my day, N6 battery shows 67% residual charge.
Thanks for all the input guys.
Pulled the trigger today and it's quite an imposing device.
Fiddled around with the S6 on the store and I must say that I walked away thoroughly unimpressed. The screen and feel of the device are difficult to fault but man... That touchwiz is really urghh!
In conclusion, the N6 was certainly a great choice.
Cheers.
I've been awarded an insurance payout for my LG G2, a phone that I love and really don't have any problems with. I have the option of paying for LG to repair the device, or to apply the new funds to a new phone, I'm thinking the 5X. I'm torn between the two. The specs on the G2 have been more than enough for me. I'm envious of newer flagships cameras vs the G2... Though I'm not sure about the camera on the 5X.
I'm very interested in having OS updates directly from google, but truthfully, I'm also a heavy user of Xposed, and can't see myself being an early adopter of M anyway. I'm worried that the 2GB of ram and mid range processor on the 5X could pose a problem for future OS updates (Post Android M). I'm also curious about the G5, but given the form factor trend getting larger and larger, G3 and G4, I highly doubt they're going to to back to the smaller size that I love w/ the G2/Nexus5/Nexus5X. My most important factors are Camera, battery life, and form factor with a strong preference for future proofing/performance... aka ram and processor.
Given the choice of repairing the G2 for 150 dollars (and waiting for a future device down the road) or receiving 150 dollars off the purchase of a new Nexus 5X... what would you choose?
I was eagerly awaiting the announcement of the new nexus 5, but like many was disappointed with the result. It has a slight performance bump due to sd808/adreno418, a potentially better camera and a fingerprint sensor, but it's also physically MUCH bigger than the G2 despite the same screen size and yet also has a smaller battery. If I'm going to go with a bigger device overall, I'd rather have the bigger screen and battery to go with it.
I actually purchased a brand new (not refurbished) G2 relatively recently and am glad I did. I don't see many phones coming with the same size/performance balance. If I were you, I would take the money and see if I could find newish (not refurbished) G2 for less than $200. The key is getting a fresh battery, and there's no guarantee there with a refurb or repair. Look on swappa/eBay. This phone still has a lot of life left.
Have you considered the Moto X Pure Edition. I think it should check all your boxes and is only $20 more than the 5X.
yes, mach01, I think you're right, the Moto X seems the better buy vs the nexus, developer community aside. I'm back to leaning towards @xdabbeb's opinion though... getting the G2 repaired w/ a battery replacement. I'm wildly disappointed w/ LG's hardware support team, there doesn't seem to be any way for them to add a new battery to the repair... even after offering to pay for it. Might have a local shop in the area do it instead. I hope that the community doesn't drop dead for the G2.... I'd really like to get Doze (and android M) on the G2, but bigger and better devices are on the horizon, and I can't fault others for wanting to jump ship.
Let me just put it this way.... I have owned the G2 since it came out. Bought it brand new straight from Verizon the first week it was out if I recall correctly. I have used and abused it every day since then (2 years). Running xdabbeb's Rom with his kernel and xcam my G2 beat every phone that came out in 2014, in battery life, size, speed, and camera quality. Literally I couldnt find a decent excuse to upgrade. So solid. Then about a month ago my digitizer started going out. Couldn't swipe anymore. Thats a deal breaker for me. So I started looking. Ended up going with the Moto X Pure 2015 because I wanted front facing speakers and custom colors. And so far it has been a great choice. However comparing the phones side by side I would say the G2 still holds its own. Its my favorite 5 inch device still to this day. My favorite phablet is the new moto x. Anyways I say all that to throw my hat in with the G2 "best 5 inch phone award", especially with the modding community headed up by xdabbeb. Great stuff and still the 5 inch phone I would recommend for the money, as long as the person buying it is planning on modding it. Without modding it the phone is pretty laggy and has issues.
JT
Did you ever get to decide on which device u would move forward with? Am faced with the same dilemma u were facing a while ago.
Hi guys,
Yesterday I hard bricked my GS4 trying to update it to marshmellow. The repair will cost $40 and this is after I spent $110 replacing the digitizer. I decided to give up on that device (It was getting a bit beat up anyway).
Walmart is currently selling the ATT version for $250. I bought it but now I am wondering if it is still worth the value now (late 2015). The S4 was starting to show its age especially with the bloatware which is why I was attempting to upgrade the OS. What better place to ask this than a forum full of tech geeks like me who have actually used the device!
So, what do you guys say? Is it worth it now to buy as a daily driver? What do you guys think of the cost? How is the custom rom community? I saw that Samsung EOLed it at 5.0 but what are the chances custom roms will keep going for a few more versions? I have just started to browse this section of xda. The S4 was a hassle especially if people accidentally upgraded it to Lollipop. I know I followed the directions to a T but I still go the hard brick so I am hesitant to attempt to mess around with a Samsung device again.
If anyone has experience with the S4, how is the experience compared to it?
Sorry if this stuff was recently asked, I just quickly browsed the front page of this section
It is an excellent device. The only thing that bothers me is the size. My personal opinion: Debatably, even the latest gen devices haven't added much value to the daily use factors(speed, screen quality etc). A little bit, yes. But not a lot. You can compare the devices and see it yourself. I don't need to upgrade the device. My hands are relatively smaller, so the size matters especially considering the case etc. Otherwise Note 3 is a solid device. Ofcourse root and get rid of the crapware if you running stock rom. You will be happy you did.
FYI to give you an idea about the price: In 2014, i bought a "certified like new" from att for 270 + taxes + activation without contract. It was really new except for the brown box it came in.
Again, My Personal opinion: Just got a OnePlus X for my wife. Only $267 including shipping. Good specs, 1080P screen , snapD 801 processor, thinner, lighter and handy compared to iphone or GS 6. In short Love it.
For me size doesn't matter since I am 6'2" with giant hands. I bought my mom the original OPO and she liked it. The only thing I feel like I would be missing out on are the fingerprint readers but those are currently only on the high end devices right now which I can't afford yet.
Note 3 is indeed a great phone/device you can have but in the mean time you can have too many other comparatively new devices in the same range of bucks, then why go back to 2013 while in my opinion you can buy some MOTO, LG, Asus, and a lot of Chinese flagship devices in that range or just a little more up on. I would suggest you Note 3. And i would never bought it if i was in your place. (worthy mention that i have one AT&T's N900A) but my situation is quite different, i have bought it (used one) almost 9 months ago and that too here in Pakistan where most of the new devices are either out of my range or not at all available here.
Hell yes. I wont upgrade cause I know I wont like my nextphone as much as my note 3. Its a tough phone. Ive bootlooped and softbricked this thing so many times and it just keeps getting better. I broke the screen once and mailed out for it to savea couple hundred and do it myself and now have half n900a and half n900t. I know. Just the carriers. I might just get another note 3 when this one dies.
The red one I got off ebay sold as new has black side buttons not red buttons...
And although the red backing does have texture it has a little bit of flex if I push around the Motorola logo on the back...
Is the slight flexing normal and is it normal for the red model to sometimes come with black buttons not red?
And there was no Verizon SIM in the phone or box either. If the package was truly retail sealed then it would still have the SIM in it right mentioned in the package contents on the retail box?
I'm thinking these chinese are bull****ting me saying its sealed new but its refurbed and they just attach their own stickers to make it seem sealed/new.
Am I just being paranoid or is there any substance to it? Is there any software method that could tell a refurbed model?
Thanks.
I am certainly not an expert but I agree with you that it does not appear to be a new and unused one. SIM card detached from phone is not unusual, so can't tell just because of no SIM card.
I am not sure if Motorola/Verizon sell officially refurbished one, assuming they don't, you may check if the bootloader is unlocked. If yes, it would very likely be non-new one, as they do not unlock bootloaders. Otherwise, you may also check the version of android and ask the seller about when they get the handset. See if the dates match chronologically.
I am sorry that I do not have any more technical way to test. If I were you, I would ask for refund anyway if still can. Basically you cannot expect a new and unused one now, but you still can buy a used one much cheaper.
Oh, I am chinese too. No offense.
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I am certainly not an expert but I agree with you that it does not appear to be a new and unused one. SIM card detached from phone is not unusual, so can't tell just because of no SIM card.
I am not sure if Motorola/Verizon sell officially refurbished one, assuming they don't, you may check if the bootloader is unlocked. If yes, it would very likely be non-new one, as they do not unlock bootloaders. Otherwise, you may also check the version of android and ask the seller about when they get the handset. See if the dates match chronologically.
I am sorry that I do not have any more technical way to test. If I were you, I would ask for refund anyway if still can. Basically you cannot expect a new and unused one now, but you still can buy a used one much cheaper.
Oh, I am chinese too. No offense.
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I agree that it's not very likely there's any new/unused Droid Turbos out there in the wild. I mean, when the official model year was over and the Droid Turbo 2 (Kinzie) came out in late 2015 (the successor to Quark, which was a big disappointment -- smaller battery? still no rear camera OIS? Still no stereo speakers?) Verizon kept selling them for awhile, but in this is now 2017. If there were any stashes of unused Droid Turbos that were returned and then sold off to 3rd party wholesalers I'm sure they've been sold by now.
For example, the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 -- which is an exact clone of the Droid Turbo, event the exact same FCC ID and radio bands -- was sold by online discount wholesaler Jet for several weeks last year. (basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo with easily unlocked bootloader.) These were obviously from stock returned by the regional CDMA/LTE carriers who were selling the same phone as the Droid Turbo under another name. But now, you can't find any of those.
I still have a brand new Moto Maxx XT1225 in the box, my 3rd one I bought last spring (March/April 2015) new off eBay as a "backup" to my other two we use daily (which I bought in November and December 2014). But you can't find those any more either. Which is why I bought it when I did. Now, if I sell that 3rd one at some point before I ever have to use it, that one will still be NEW -- but then I'm not an eBay dealer promising many of these phones brand new. I think at this point in time (April 2017) there's none out there like that.
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The red one I got off ebay sold as new has black side buttons not red buttons...
And although the red backing does have texture it has a little bit of flex if I push around the Motorola logo on the back...
Is the slight flexing normal and is it normal for the red model to sometimes come with black buttons not red?
I'm thinking these chinese are bull****ting me saying its sealed new but its refurbed and they just attach their own stickers to make it seem sealed/new.
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I think you basically paid for a "mint" refurbished Droid Turbo. How much did you pay and is it worth that to you for a professionally refurbished phone with no scratches, etc? Your alternative is to buy used off eBay/Swappa in various states of mis-use.
The three Quarks I own (XT1225, the "international" variant of the Droid Turbo with 64GB memory only) are ballistic nylon + kevlar, and there is no flexing. However, yours is Kevlar-only, if it's red. (All the ballistic nylon + kevlar Quarks were either black or blue.) The Kevlar-only are thinner than the ballistic nylon + kevlar -- which is why they have TWO different case sizes for the Quarks. Maybe the Kevlar-only ones have some flexing? Put a case on it, you won't notice.
Even though mine are the thicker Ballistic Nylon + Kevlar, I still keep cases on the two Quarks we use daily (to keep them as mint as possible). Mine is a Diztronics TPU absorption case. My wife's has a "hard shell" red plastic case she's busted TWICE by dropping her phone. This last time it happened I ordered a dozen of them (like $1 each) off some website, so if she keeps doing that I've got replacements. Plus, who knows how long they're going to keep selling cases for the ballistic nylon + kevlar Quarks? (which are different size from the kevlar-only backed Quarks.) Point is, that's corner drop impacts the case took instead of the phone.
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I still have a brand new Moto Maxx XT1225 in the box, my 3rd one I bought last spring new off eBay as a "backup" to my other two we use daily. But you can't find those any more either. Which is why I bought it when I did. Now, if I sell it at some point before I ever have to use it, that one will still be NEW -- but I'm not an eBay dealer promising hundreds brand new.
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I don't mean to hijack this post, but would you share your plan on how much longer you intend to continue to use droid turbo? I am kinda paranoid on battery and this is quite the reason I chose droid turbo. I got mine which claimed to be brand new in June 2015 from a third party. The battery still looks good approaching two years of use and I can project its life for another year. As I live in Hong Kong and no one knows droid turbo, even if I can get a new battery online, I do not believe anyone including me have the ability to open the case and change the battery for me. I viewed videos from youtube and I admit that opening the case without damaging it is difficult.
It is a pity that while the spec is still not inferior as compared to the "flagships" today, we are unable to extend its life for long due to the battery. In fact, the hardware development in the recent couple of years is rather stagnant that when you buy a phone, you are just paying for a new battery for a phone with pretty much the same spec. I really wish to have some ideas on how I can make the life of my droid turbo longer.
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I still have a brand new Moto Maxx XT1225 in the box, my 3rd one I bought last spring (March/April 2015) new off eBay as a "backup" to my other two we use daily (which I bought in November and December 2014). But you can't find those any more either. Which is why I bought it when I did. Now, if I sell that 3rd one at some point before I ever have to use it, that one will still be NEW -- but then I'm not an eBay dealer promising many of these phones brand new. I think at this point in time (April 2017) there's none out there like that.
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I don't mean to hijack this post, but would you share your plan on how much longer you intend to continue to use droid turbo? I am kinda paranoid on battery and this is quite the reason I chose droid turbo. I got mine which claimed to be brand new in June 2015 from a third party. The battery still looks good approaching two years of use and I can project its life for another year.
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Well I have three of the XT1225, not the XT1254. But yes all Quarks have the same 3900 mAh battery, and except for internal memory variants (32GB or 64GB), they all have the same hardware specs. The XT1225 came in 64GB-only internal memory, while the XT1254 had options for 32GB or 64GB. The 64GB Quarks (whether XT1225 or XT1254) all came in Ballistic Nylon + Kevlar. The third Quark, the XT1250, only came in 32GB and with Kevlar-only.
I've kept this phone longer than any other I've ever owned. And I've been into Android phones since 2010, with the LG Optimus M. I always paid full price, never had a contract, upgraded every year or so to newer model and sold the old ones to recoup some of the cost. This is why the Nexus phones were so appealing (the gen3 Galaxy Nexus and the gen5 Nexus 5). They were top tier specs at a reasonable price brand new, and then could still command decent re-sell value later.
When Google really screwed up with the WHALE gen6 2014 Moto Nexus 6. Until then the number, if it was in the title was the generation model, NOT the screen size.
2010 gen1: HTC Nexus One was not 1". It was 3.7" (VERY close to 4"). "One" = FIRST Released end of January 2010.
2010 gen2: Samsung Nexus S was 4.0", 480p.
No number in the name. The only time Google released two Nexus phones the same calendar year. But it moved the release date of Google phones to the END of the year instead of the beginning.
2011 gen3: Samsung Galaxy Nexus, gen 3. 4.65", Super AMOLED 720p.
No number in the name, but first HD resolution Android. Made by Samsung and released halfway between their early 2011 Galaxy S2 and the 2012 Galaxy S3, the gen3 Galaxy Nexus was really a "Galaxy S2.5". It had a lot of the hardware specs/features the Galaxy S3 would have.
Halfway through the Galaxy Nexus model year, in June 2012 Google cut the price in half and started selling the unlocked phone online in its Google Store. This was the start of the "budget" premium phone reputation the Nexus brand had. The LG Nexus 4 and LG Nexus 5 continued this budget pricing.
2012 gen4: The LG Nexus 4 was NOT 4", it was 4.75" 720p. It was closer to 5" than 4", was the 3rd Nexus to be 4" or MORE -- but was the FOURTH Nexus phone. THAT is why it's called the Nexus 4. 4 = FOURTH
The LG Nexus 4 and the LG Optimus G were basically clones of each other, which hurt LG tremendously. Why would people pay $600 - $700 for the Optimus G in a carrier store when they could get the same phone for $350 in the Google Store?
[*]2013 gen5: The gen5 LG Nexus 5, was 4.95" -- just a little bigger than the 4.75" gen4 Nexus 4. It was the FIFTH NEXUS PHONE. Just coincidentally it was close to a 5" display, but that was just coincidence. 5 = FIFTH. (If Google wanted a 5.0" display, there were plenty available. They purposely chose a display UNDER 5.0". It was the Nexus 5 because it was the FIFTH NEXUS PHONE, PERIOD.)
Due to the Nexus 4/Optimus G mistake, LG tried to differentiate the LG Nexus 5 from the LG G2 by making the LG G2 be 5.2". But otherwise they were sibling phones with almost identical hardware specs. They were first phones to use the new Snapdragon 800, had 2GB RAM, and and among the first to have 1080p -- both with rear camera OIS. All cutting edge specs.
(2013 is the same year Motorola laughably released the first Moto X with 4.7", 720p display -- which was a direct copycat of LG's 2012 Optimus G/LG Nexus 4. LG and Motorola actually released both their flagship phones within a couple of weeks of each other. And Motorola did the same thing again in early 2014, producing an inferior COPY of the previous year's 2013 1080p LG G2 when LG released the 5.5" 1440p LG G3. Motorola was still playing catch up with specs, while LG had moved on -- which was why Google chose LG as their Nexus partner in 2013 even though they owned Motorola at the time. Motorola finally joined the big leagues in late 2014 with the duo of Shamu and Quark phones. The Quark especially was IMPRESSIVE. However, since Lenovo bought them they have regressed backwards, in my opinion. The 2015 Kinzie did not improve upon the two deficiencies of the Quark -- lack of stereo speakers and rear camera OIS. And the mod phones are silly, I want EVERYTHING I need in the phone to begin with -- including stereo speakers, Qi wireless and a big battery.)
THEREFORE, the 6th Nexus phone would only be the 6th phone, not necessarily 6 freaking inches. Until then, Google had actually taken display averages of the most popular mainstream phones to be the display new Nexus phone. This is why the 2013 LG Nexus 5 was 4.95" instead of 5.0" -- even though there were 5.0" displays available. No, I have no internal Google documents proving that but I did the math every year and I was always right. My math showed the average display for end of 2013 would be 4.948" and they released a 4.95" phone. My math showed the average display for end of 2013 would be 5.2" -- and Google instead released a 5.95" phone.
It was a HUGE mistake in 2014, and Google has admitted that by releasing increasingly smaller sizes in 2015 (5.7") and 2016 (5.5").
Yet, there's plenty of evidence, Google/Motorola was testing two Nexus 6 variants - a 5.2" Shamu as late as mid-August 2014 as well as the 5.95" Shamu whale. We saw the leaked benchmarks! Instead of releasing the more mainstream variant (5.2") or releasing BOTH (two sizes like Apple did first), Google screwed up and chose the whale. Motorola has even said more recently that Google made that disastrous decision against their own recommendations.
Motorola then released the 2014 5.2" Quark which has 95% the same specs as the Moto Nexus 6. It's clear it was either the repurposed 5.2" Shamu variant or was on very similar dual track development (like the 2012 LG Optimus G and LG Nexus 4, and the 2013 LG G2 and LG Nexus 5). Whatever, the Quark became MY Nexus 6. It's the best phone I have even owned (5.2" 1440p, 3GB RAM, Qi wireless, 64GB internal memory, 21MP camera, QuickCharge 2.0) and still holds up spectacularly. Only now in 2017 with phones like the Galaxy S8 do you see some aging. Yes, I wish the Quark had the stereo speakers and rear camera OIS the Nexus 6 has, and Motorola could have easily put those in considering the price they charged.
I bought the XT1225 for the LTE bands (I'm on AT&T) and for the 64GB memory.
Our two daily phones are still OK. But I can top off at work when I need to (I keep a QuickCharge 2.0 charger with 10-ft USB cable in my work bag), and I have QuickCharge 2.0 car chargers in both our cars for when we are driving. Since I always use Waze navigation app when driving, it's very battery intensive so I keep my phone plugged in.
How long will I keep using them? The LG G6 would have been a good replacement if LG had the sense to include ALL the premium features (Qi wireless charging, 64GB memory, DAC) in ONE phone and sell it to the world, instead of making regional variants. I'm not giving up Qi wireless charging and I'm not going to buy a phone with less than 64GB internal memory.
I'll keep using the Quark until it dies (and I have a new spare still in the box!) or until someone releases a phone that meets my standards...
The ZTE Axon 7 specs impressed me greatly (5.5", 1440p AMOLED, DAC, front facing speakers, 64/128GB internal memory, 4GB/6GB RAM, $400/$500) -- but there's no Qi wireless charging.
The Galaxy S8 has great specs (Qi wireless, 64GB, etc) , but unless I can root it to remove bloatware and install custom ROMs, I'm not touching it.
OnePlus 3T only has 1080p and no Qi wireless charging.
Maybe Google will come to their senses and release a good Pixel 2 phone later this year. I'm NOT impressed by last years Pixel phone which didn't even have Qi wireless charging. But it had HUGE bezels!
The 2018 LG G7 will have AMOLED, and maybe LG will realize we all want premium features. ZTE may release an Axon 8 with Qi wireless, plus all the stuff they crammed into the Axon 7.
or OnePlus may finally decide to join the Big Boys and release a phone with 1440p and Qi wireless charging.
zhaoyun said:
As I live in Hong Kong and no one knows droid turbo, even if I can get a new battery online, I do not believe anyone including me have the ability to open the case and change the battery for me. I viewed videos from youtube and I admit that opening the case without damaging it is difficult.
It is a pity that while the spec is still not inferior as compared to the "flagships" today, we are unable to extend its life for long due to the battery. In fact, the hardware development in the recent couple of years is rather stagnant that when you buy a phone, you are just paying for a new battery for a phone with pretty much the same spec. I really wish to have some ideas on how I can make the life of my droid turbo longer.
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Yeah, there was just an exchange about that battery replacement difficulty yesterday over in the RR 7.x thread:
gangrenius said:
I know about this before but I want to reask... has someone change their battery out yet? And if they did was it fairly easy? And how is the battery? And did it fix the random power off issues?
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NepoRood said:
Yes, no, great, no
IF you have a heat gun, it'll be easier to separate the phone (I hear). I took out the volume rocker (SIM card holder) and started separating there, it's a little hard to get the phone apart. It's not like it just "snaps", there's adhesive inside. I also jacked my headphone input a bit, but, it still works, so be careful around the top of the phone.
Also, left, right, and top come apart first, bottom last.
There are videos on the YouTube for it, which shows you step-by-step, just use Gooble
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I did. Its sort of a pain getting the cover off but I imagine it wouldn't be so bad if you had the proper tool. I saw on YouTube a guy used a guitar pick and it worked well. I ended up having to order a new cover for about $10 on eBay. I never had random power issues but just knew she was getting worn out.
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I paid $175USD.
also paid the $25 for sunshine.
Haven't had any problems apart from the phone getting a little hot after some tetris blitzing but that game did it to my flex 2 as well
and I'm quite enjoying the Open Kang 7.1
I can thrash the phone all day and I only need to charge it once or twice every 2 days
I guess I can't complain too much as long as it doesn't explode or cease to function...
mrw187 said:
I paid $175USD.
also paid the $25 for sunshine.
Haven't had any problems apart from the phone getting a little hot after some tetris blitzing but that game did it to my flex 2 as well
and I'm quite enjoying the Open Kang 7.1
I can thrash the phone all day and I only need to charge it once or twice every 2 days
I guess I can't complain too much as long as it doesn't explode or cease to function...
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It is operating quite well. Mine also gets very hot while playing games, but its already less hot after upgrading the marshmallow. All I can advise is enjoy the phone as it is, and just don't leave it unattended while charging.
ChazzMatt said:
The ZTE Axon 7 specs impressed me greatly (5.5", 1440p AMOLED, DAC, front facing speakers, 64/128GB internal memory, 4GB/6GB RAM, $400/$500) -- but there's no Qi wireless charging.
The Galaxy S8 has great specs (Qi wireless, 64GB, etc) , but unless I can root it to remove bloatware and install custom ROMs, I'm not touching it.
OnePlus 3T only has 1080p and no Qi wireless charging.
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Guess you could do Qi charging on the Axon with this ----> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3...e=df0&creative=395129&creativeASIN=B01M11UT3V
And then put a case over the whole thing.